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My least favorite scene was the one with Hannah packing up her classroom, and the principal approaches her in a relaxed and friendly manner, and then seems genuinely surprised and disappointed that she wants to leave. WTF? At that point I figured that this was a different administrator than we'd seen before, because there's no other explanation for him being so nonchalant, but when she oh so casually said, "sorry for showing you my pussy," I knew it was the same guy. Then I held out for a look of intense relief on his face when Hannah left, but nope, it never came. Seriously, WTF Lena? I thought the fight scene was entertaining, mainly because I kept thinking that it must have been really fun for the actors to do. I'm a neat freak in real life, but having the opportunity to knock over full bookcases, break plates, and punch through doors at work (and not have to clean up afterwards) sounds amazingly cathartic. However, I could not roll my eyes hard enough at Jessa's pathetic explanation about how she and Hannah are the bestest of friends and Hannah would always come between her and Adam. Sorry Jessa, but what you have with Hannah is not "real friendship"; it may have been at one point, but hasn't been for quite sometime. Her rant was such a load of bullshit that I just assumed that she was intentionally trying to tank her relationship with Adam because she's sick of being a babysitter. That girl is exhausting! I loved the storyline with Shosh, especially her Inspector gadget/Carmen Sandiego spy mission, but I doubt she would be able to turn the business around so quickly. It was fun to watch though, and I think marketing is a great niche for her. I've been torn about how I feel about the fact that the men on this show have been generally more mature and likeable than the women on this show for a while now, but aside from Hermie and Elijah, this really didn't feel true for me in these episodes: Desi was... Desi, Adam became unhinged and violent, Tad ditched his wife and daughter for a random hookup, and Ray became Marnie's doormat. None of them came off particularly well IMO, which put them on level pegging with the women. So good to find other "Remote Control" fans! That was my favorite after-school show, even though it did take me a while to understand that the hilarious "Beat the Baloney" segment had another meaning. Oh, the innocence of youth!

UK viewers: does anyone know if Thronecast will be on again this year? It's not showing up on my TV listing or on the Sky Atlantic website or any other social media I looked at, yet I found another site that is claiming to be offering tickets to the tapings. It used to be a cringeworthy disaster, but I liked the addition of Sue Perkins last year and would be sad to lose it. Anyone have information?

Could it be a revelation about the past? Maybe some detail about Robert's rebellion that shows that Ned Stark was the honorable man we all thought he was, or something to do with the Tower of Joy that didn't actually play out the way most fans assume it did?

I'm sorry, but I laughed out loud during that emotional scene with Robert and Kris when he said that he didn't want to bring attention to himself by quitting the defense team. He said that if he did it would be worse for the whole family and, "it's hard enough with half the country hating you." HAHAHA, oh Robert, if you only knew that (more than?) half the country would end up hating your children anyway, you might have chosen differently.

I just thought her tears were part of the emotional release of the orgasm, and had nothing to do with Hannah. To me, it just looked like an awkward and ridiculous scene, mostly played for laughs, and on top of everything else, Hannah found herself with a woman who burst into tears when she had an orgasm, which made the whole situation even more awkward. When I've seen the "crying orgasm" trope used before, it seems to either be played for awkward humor, or to show that the character is having a cathartic moment. In this case, it seemed like the former to me.

Interesting. I read the scene differently, but I think I was too distracted by seeing Hannah's legs being pulled up to her ass to really notice anything much deeper. I think I need some brain bleach to remove that image!

I don't think she would have, but it would fit with her stream of bad choices. I love the "you're going to get murdered" line, but not as much as "you're playing aggressive guitar at me" line during their fight. I really hope I get to use this line myself someday! The big question is, who gets to keep the tiny shelf?

I feel sorry for the instructor too, but I don't think badly of Hannah for stopping when she felt uncomfortable. It was just really unfortunate timing.

I know that Hannah is generally a self-centred person, but IMO she was not being selfish when she stopped her sexual encounter with the yoga teacher, no matter abrupt and inconvenient the timing may have been. She was feeling uncomfortable/overwhelmed, she verbalised her desire to stop, and then she stopped. Considering the importance of consent in the current discourse on sexual activity, I think she did the right thing, and I certainly don't think she should have continued to do something that she did not want to do, just to please her partner.

I definitely think his pro-Valentine attitude planted the seed of her doubt (not to mention that he seemed completely well-adjusted after having been locked in a cupboard for 10 years), but also the timeline didn't add up. He mentioned Jocelyn's pregnancy, Luke getting bitten, and a few other things that didn't quite match up with what Michael Wayland would have known. Also, Jace said that his father died when he was 10, but Luke told her that Michael Wayland died during the uprising 20 years ago. I may have the details wrong, but the point is that the details didn't add up. Ugh, me too! Not only are they constantly bickering, but I HATED that the showrunners decided that the parabatai tracking spell is practically deadly. That makes no sense! The whole point of being parabatai is that two people have a supernaturally enhanced bond. They can practically read each other's thoughts, and can sense when the other one is dead, so it is completely ridiculous that they can only track each other by seriously injuring both of them. And that rune was stupid. It looked like a pretzel. I couldn't stop laughing at the "trial". It was a miscarriage of justice all the way around. The prosecutor was called to the stand? The charges were dropped, but the accused was convicted anyway? The conviction would be overturned if another unrelated thing happened (retrieving the Mortal Cup)? What the hell kind of justice system is this? For a group of people who claim to love rules, this made no sense! And speaking of not making sense, Clary had a building full of demons at her command with the Mortal Cup, and all she did was ask them to back off??? I won't even get into how stupid it is that the Mortal Cup somehow "controls" demons, but seriously girl, couldn't you have done something more effective at that moment? Like order the demons to kill each other, or return to where they came from, or to never again attack anyone? She could have destroyed dozens, if not hundreds of demons in one swoop, but she just let them go. Idiot.

I kind of like this interpretation, but I'm not sure if we'll ever find out. (And coincidently, I'm responding to you while watching the Golden Girls episode that inspired your user name. "I can't believe the last words I said to her were 'shut up, Zulu!'") And just to weigh in on the Minerva/Jessa thing, I would definitely give money to my actual sisters if they needed it. If one of my sister's had a history of drug addiction or compulsive lying, however, I don't know if I would be so generous. And even if I agreed, I would insist on giving the money directly to the school, rather than to her.

I don't think Jessa was trying to manipulate either her sister or Adam into giving her money. She asked her sister for it directly, which is the opposite of manipulative, and even if this was a set up to trick Adam, somehow I don't think he'd care. He really likes her and doesn't seem to care about the money, which came to him easily, and seemed happy to help. Now, if it turns out that she wanted the money for something else, and isn't in school at all, that might be another story. But that would be a pretty elaborate ruse, since we've seen her study when she was alone or just with the girls. One of my favorite parts of this episode was when the yoga instructor reassured Hannah that the retreat wasn't a place where people would try to cram things down her throat, and then a few scenes later.... that's sort of exactly what happens between the two of them. It made me laugh.

Good points, Lion. How dare we try to bring logic and consistency to this debacle!

This is gold- I may have to steal it!

Aside from the ludicrous assertion that Mexico would pay for the wall, the thing that struck me the most about this insane plan is how much of the border actually lies on private property, meaning that the federal government would need to forcibly take private land from thousands of individuals to erect the dumb thing. How on earth are small-government supporters ok with this? It seems like the very definition of big government abuse, and doesn't even take into account that it is far beyond the president's mandate to even order the building of such a wall. None of this makes any sense!

Not sure how it works in Japan, but would her work visa automatically be terminated when she lost her job (since they may have been listed as her sponsor), or do they issue more general work visas that would be valid for a particular length of time, in which case as long as she finds other employment within that timeframe that meets the terms of the visa she's still perfectly legal? Each country is a little different in this regard, so I'm not sure what her exact situation is. I know, she was awful to him. Their first meeting was an example of one of my most hated rom-com tropes: one person is incredibly rude and insulting to the other, and yet the other person inexplicably finds them irresistibly charming. Ugh. I find Marnie to be fairly insufferable, but this particular line didn't really bother me. I know lots of people who get giddy about using the terms "fiancé" and "husband" when they first get engaged/married, or who can't stop looking at their engagement ring for the first few weeks. It's a new phase of their lives and I don't mind that they're excited about it. But yes, I agree that this marriage is going to crash and burn relatively soon, and I expect it to be hilarious to watch.

I completely agree with you, ByTor. Between Kato spontaneously deciding to go with OJ and messing up OJ's plans, and Ron deciding to go home and change his clothes before heading over to Nicole's, Ron potentially had TWO chances that night to avoid his untimely death. It's quite chilling to think about. Although, if OJ had gone alone, and Ron had gone straight from the restaurant to Nicole's they both would have arrived earlier than they actually did, which may have resulted in the same outcome. Gah, this is really messing with my head! Regarding the racial issues surrounding this case, it's been fascinating for me to read everyone's opinions on this forum about what might (or might not) have been different if Nicole had been black, or Johnnie Cochran had not been on the team, or other "what ifs". It is really interesting to speculate how these changes could have changed the media coverage, the jury selection, and the outcome of the case. I know one of the main debates is whether or not this was more about race or about fame, and I wanted to throw something out there. To my mind, the current Bill Cosby scandal is similar to this case in several ways, and I found it interesting that the accusations against him seemed to gain significant credence when Beverly Johnson, a famous African American supermodel came forward with her own story. She was taken more seriously than the other accusers who were largely unknown and repeatedly dismissed as wannabe actresses and models who were more than happy to make use of Cosby's "casting couch" to get ahead in the industry. Even more interesting is contrasting the general reaction to the accusations made by Janice Dickinson, a white former supermodel with a brash attitude and troubled past- she was not taken seriously and, like the others, was accused of lying to gain publicity for herself. So here you have a case dealing with fame, race, and reputation, and the one who comes out on top appears to be Johnson, who is seen as the "classy" model, as opposed to the "trashy" Dickinson. So in this case at least, it seems that fame and reputation are the most influential factors in forming public opinion. I'm not sure whether or not this can be considered "progress" from the time of the OJ trial, but I wanted to mention it.

I'm really fuzzy about the timeline of the Adam/Hannah/Jessa drama (I don't rewatch episodes) so I don't know how I feel about a Jessa/Adam hook-up at this point. I hate Jessa in general, but I don't know if I'm completely against them as a couple. But I do think she's right about them destroying each other, which could be fun to watch. I may be wrong, but I thought it was a simple awkward situation, but I'm so happy Dill stopped the car and gave Elijah his card. That's what I thought, but they way it played out, I was wondering if I was missing something. Like, was this a euphemism for some sex thing (e.g., top/bottom) and in that moment they realised that even though they are really attracted to each other they are not compatible? Again, please excuse my ignorance if I'm reading too much into this!

Please forgive my ignorance, but when Elijah and Dill left the bar and Elijah said he was going downtown, and Dill said he was going uptown, was that a euphemism or code for something? The line delivery was pretty deliberate, and Elijah looked so disappointed afterwards that it seemed like more than just "gee, too bad we live in opposite ends of the city".

The story of the early years of Dorothy and Stan's relationship is a continuity mess. And I'm not even addressing the impossible ages of their kids. In one version, they are high school kids in a crappy apartment who are so broke that Stan's first "job" is giving blood every week. In another version, Stan proposed to Dorothy by putting a diamond ring in a champagne glass. That's pretty flashy for a broke teenager (and this is ignoring the issue of a pregnant woman drinking champagne- they were different times). And in one version the couple honeymooned in the Poconos with Stan's buddies, and in another they honeymooned in Miami and were able to buy some land. Again, that's pretty impressive for people in their situation!

I agree with all the criticisms mentioned above, especially the ridiculous fantasy we are supposed to believe that all these beautiful women are throwing themselves at Gus. The Heidi plot is by far the most eye-rolling for me, but could have been salvaged with some restructuring. For instance, it would be more realistic to me if she took more notice of him AFTER he gave her the acting advice that resulted in her getting a bigger role. And we find out later that she is lonely and bored as the new girl in town, but this isn't really clear early on, when she is intentionally running into him on set. I'm not saying they need to spell everything out at the beginning, but a more natural progression of their friendship would have made this slightly more believable. Like the walk to Mickey's house in episode 2, which I thought was believable and well done. Other random thoughts: - I really don't understand his job as an on-set tutor. Would it really require him to stick around for the late night shoots? Would they schedule a midnight algebra session for the actors? Likewise, does he really have all that time to lounge around the set watching everything? I realise that the tutoring times need to be flexible to accommodate production delays, but he spends a huge amount of time just hanging out, doing nothing. If this is an accurate portrayal, then how do I get a job like this? - I can't stand Arya. What a manipulative brat. I think we were supposed to feel some sympathy for her, but I never really did. - The "let's write a movie theme song" game was amusing at first, but then felt a bit too precious. I think they were trying too hard to be quirky. - It's probably a bad sign that I would rather watch Witchita than more episodes of Love. Seriously, they should make that show.

Amen to that! And I always picture him with a thick Caribbean accent (think Barbados Slim from Futurama) because he was raised in the West Indies. That just makes him hotter. And btw, if you're ever in Harlem, you can visit his house. That's right, his quaint colonial wooden farmhouse is in Harlem. It's worth a look! I don't mind the way the founding fathers are portrayed in SH (although Betsy Ross is another story!), because it's obviously tongue in cheek and over the top. And it's all based on Ichabod's own prejudices and personal friendships, so I assumed that we are supposed to take their portrayals with a grain of salt, as Ichabod certainly isn't infallible or unbiased. To me, the fact that Ben Franklin is made out to be a pompous villain is more of a running joke about Ichabod being a bit of priss, rather than an indication of how I am supposed to view him.

I can't stop laughing at this line. It's so true!

X is for Xanadu, which Dorothy, Blanche, and Rose can accidentally catch on TV the next time they are procrastinating when Sophia goes out to buy a nectarine. Dorothy will cringe, Rose will critique the skating technique, and Blanche will get bored and decide to make mimosas and french-kiss the pillows instead.

Oooh, that's an interesting idea. I could support that in theory, but the actress currently playing Camille is definitely the weak link.