SparedTurkey

Oh I thought I saw Angel was on the meet & greet as well as the tour. May well be wrong. But if Angel isnt on the meet & greets that seems like a missed opportunity given how well known she seems to be in the cheer-following world.

I think Stef and Lena from The Fosters had problems but I think some were partially the timeline disaster that was that show. They flipped between strict and lenient, were generally decent with birth control and never seemed to try the whole 'I'm friends with my teenagers vibe' that is very commonly done. However, their big downfall was the way they managed their one bio kid - Brandon - and the relationship with him and Callie. Didn't take it serious enough mostly and then jumped into a restraining order before ignoring it again forever. Also, Mitch and Gale Leery - who actually lets their kid have that much input into their relationship? As if and vomit

And ignored Haddie. Much preferred Brothers & Sisters even if Nora Walker was into all her kids business and vice versa

Seriously? That's awful. I feel really sorry for her, and Misty. 14 is too young

That is ridiculous and I cannot imagine anyone gives a damn whether she swore or not. Aside from the circle speechifying which got old (which they ALL did but so it wasn't just her) she was great! And amazing to watch. And I notice that leaves Angel Rice as the only black female cheerleader on that tour which is a bit rich and definately does not pass the pub test. Doesn't DWTS hold onto phones/stop contestants communicating/make it difficult? I could see that stopping Monica from getting the phone calls and/or making them. I don't see what Monica could have done after Jerry's arrest and it seemed like she zoomed into cheer meetings about it so really, given there was also quarantine at the time what else should she have done? I agree with the above, she wasn't necessarily guaranteed a 2021 spot if she deferred like a uni student wanting a gap year. I do agree she looked a bit beaten down and exhausted - like most of the returning featured team too

Are they all smokers except maybe Amanda? Chris and Amy have terrible coughs that cannot just be them. I just don't know why they keep bowing to Tammy. Let her be for a week or two and maybe she'd have an attitude shift. She has a phone and if they are that worried, get a medical alert alarm. I do wonder if they are just caving for the cameras - if she was in some kind of rehab before the show that suggests they all refused to be her babysitter for once. And seriously, Tammy has been partying since just after the vacation so what two months? It cannot just be booze and pot. The doctors are ridiculous and doing a house call is so transparently paid for and maybe fractionally to stop this family filing a claim when she dies. Giving Amy free weight loss surgery was such a slap in the face to people who try hard without the money to pay for it. And she was investigating skin removal not a few episodes ago JFC

Has anyone heard any details about this sequel that isn't a sequel that James Callis is spearheading? It has the whole cast (those who can be there that is) involved - including Helfer, McDonnell, Sackoff, Olmos, Bamber, Park etc.

Slightly different topic, but I've noticed differences between men and women who lose weight in the workplace. A bloke in my office lost about 30kg in a 4 month period and he was lauded for taking care of himself, being stronger, being happier etc. I lost about 35kg over 12 months and I got a pretty equal mix of 'you look much better than you did & you look good' and 'you've gone too fast, your too tiny, you aren't eating enough, you've got some kind of disorder'. I freely admit I did not expect such a mix and the reactions compared to the bloke is pretty stark. And outside of work, I have noticed that men look at me more, talk to me, try to open doors for me etc. way more now than they did 30kgs before. And I am in no way beautiful so it just comes down to the weight thing.

I saw a lot of it and I have seen the backlash about Monica and Navarro come out a bit. I think it's probably true that some shady shit went down - especially in a sport with limited oversight (I mean, if they can get away with systemic abuse in gymnastics, community college level wouldn't be hard). I'm not sure I buy that Monica is some shady overlord of the whole thing - if she booted Kapena for just drinking with some of the cheerleaders, I don't see how she'd be the same to wave away physical & sexual assault? Especially when Andy disappeared real quick after that relationship? It just doesn't fit to me in some way. I do reckon LaDarius is probably ripped the roof off some of the seedy abusive stuff that went down. Also, I rewatched a season 1 episode and it was just wholly creepy in retrospect to see a scene with Jerry, LaDarius and the other boys (TT maybe?) where they are talking about how much Jerry watches cheer especially young underage teams. Not creepy at the time where it just comes across as Jerry being supportive or whatever but hindsight is perfect vision and now it is just horrifying to watch. Completely get the team being shellshocked by it. Cassadee and her pets are amazing. Jada and Angel Rice were awesome. The weenies' masculinity talk...not so much.

Finley got them both drinks - it wasn't water. Mojitos I think. I just think they rushed Sophie being concerned and there was no build up. They showed Finley having a morning beer - Sophie doesn't know that though. They both swigged from the flask in the last episode and no eyebatting from Sophie about it. If they had something like Finley having been the DD and then blowing positive - sure. But the show is just telling us that Sophie is worried about "lifeless eyes" when Finley drinks and there have been nothing but scenes with the both of them drinking and having fun. Sophie tried to shag her in the car the night before. They haven't laid the foundation or showed anything that would give anyone the idea this is actually a problem so Sophie comes off too melodramatic.

Sophie was not great this week. She was drunk, she got in the car too and all of a sudden Finley drinking is a problem? It was all they did last season and this is rushed and ridiculous. Build up wouldn't have hurt but at this point, not on Sophie's side

I don't know why but I thought that by the blunt comments and texture thing they are setting up some form of Autism for Carrie given they are the most overplayed traits in media for lower level autism. I liked Carrie. I think Tina has too much of a vicious mean streak. Carrie is to Tina what Tina is to Bette but way nicer. Bette and Tina deserve each other - they are both mean to partners (though good friends). Bette is wicked smart and hot but exhausting. Finley, I liked in season 1. Crashing the wedding was a dick move. Dani deserves better. Like the hot reverend. Sophie deserves whats coming. I like Shane and Tess. Is Tess trans? I want a fun old person back - like Helena or Joyce Wishnia

It was presented as a bit too romantic but watching it back it 20 years later does make it look like grooming 101 when it gets going because Tamara puts it all on him and emphasises the secretness. Shame they didn't lean into it as being wrong which you know they would have done with one of the girls. And at least they had a disciplinary hearing at all (looking at you, Pretty Little Liars). Could have been handled way better overall though. Also, Dr Death is awesome. Like as though Pacey grew up to be a sociopathic murderer! Also the fat suit at one point is hilarious..

It might be stupid but this is one of the first movies I ever saw and I will always love it. Lori Petty, Naomi Watts, Malcolm McDowell and Ice-T = all great.. Still have the soundtrack and listen regularly.

Not too sure about that, given what his mother and his relationship with her seems to be like. He has no real support networks outside of his younger siblings who he is guardian of and a dead father who put a lot of thought into the girls and made Nicholas the keeper of the key... I didn't see him as wholly negative about the whole thing. If he was, he would have dropped it and not done those tests with Genevive.

What did he do?

Was Kailyn's mum as awful as she seems in Seasons 1 & 2? Anyone know the story?

As an only child I can anecdotally say that does not happen. I am no more involved with my parent's relationship than I am the Leery's relationship. Nor do I know or comment on my parent's sex life with the freedom and overt interest that Dawson does. Dawson is also a shitty mate to Pacey. I rewatched Detention and just awful.

Does the ending means that Salem will die too? That makes it worse

Just in this episode or always?

Oh I think Bill absolutely liked the polygamy thing. I think if Barb never got ill there would have been some reason he would have gone back. He could have got a carer from anywhere but Juniper Creek - there was definately a reason he went back. I think for him it was a matter of time. It fit his grandiose sense of self that also came through from multiple franchises, a casino and the (stupidly plotted) political run. Joey was the only Henrickson male that didn't like polygamy and took it on after a sense of obligation. I agree Barb hated it and would have left Bill if she hadn't been raised Mormon. I agree Nicki liked it until season three and she met the DA (Ray Henry) and actually saw the Joy Book. (I also would have loved more Barb/Nicki and Nicki/Sarah). I think the Joy Book was more of a turning point than the bloke. I think Margene never bought into the religious side of polygamy but loved a big family. I think she viewed Barb & Nicki and sisters, not sister wives. Especially if she was only 16 when she married Bill, she was as brainwashed as the other two, to some degree. I think the only one who hated polygamy from start to finish was Sarah. Certainly Ben wasn't convinced until he realised he could marry twins. I do wonder how Teeny would have gone. And Nicki's kids. I would have liked to have seen more of Don's wives. I still can't believe he is Scully in Brooklyn 99!

Cameron was special - she was modeled on, I want to say Alison(?), who was a part of the inner resistance I believe. I think there was an episode about Alison and explained how that came about - now I want a rewatch haha! This show was a casualty of the writer's strike is that right? I think it was going in a really interesting way. Plus Shirley Manson and her slicing necks down a hallway. I loved Lena Headey in this (saw it before Game of Thrones which is why I always expected Cersei to have weapons hidden in her walls haha!) as Sarah Connor. Plus the redheaded child was also great and not....like some children in tv shows. I wish the writers would have released what they were planning for season 3. Would have been a good show I feel.

I hate Dawson and never understood why Pacey or Joey or Jen or Jack or anyone kept falling all over themselves when he was angry. Not to mention his own parents catering to his every whim. Even about their own relationships. I am an only child but my parents would never ever even think of giving me a say in anything not my business. That said (and totally unrelated) I just watched Don't Trust the B in Apartment 23 and JVDB is hilarious.

I think it was pacifism...although maybe that is a form of attempted suicide. But I think after the Hercules episodes we were supposed to get that she hated herself too much for suicide, or at least to do that before seeing her mum. I think rewatching it now and seeing the things like the "she'd never let a man close enough to do her" lines lends more credence to the cast later saying that the subtext was intentional by the writers. I always thought it was just the actressess running with it (and never shooting it down ala Rizzoli & Isles cast/crew) but I'm starting to buy that it would have had to come somewhat from the higher ups (or at least they participated more than I originally gave credit for)

My work does this though. But only in the conference rooms and they have conferences at least 2 times a day and the people attending are very busy so I think it gets used and isn't a waste. But at home? Yeah that is not happening.