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That's because she is making it up as she talks. I don't actually believe a word she says anymore.

I can't believe I am reading this and agree with it. What's more shocking to me is she has also become the most likeable. Granted, the bar could not be any lower, but she annoyed the hell out of me since she first joined the show. I actually kind of like her now. My opinion of Brownwind, however, has not approved. She is truly one of the worst Howive's ever on this franchise. Other than Gina, all these women are awful. I still think Kelly's guy is outright ugly and I see nothing in his personality that makes up for it.

He's gay as well, right? Maybe he just has a difficult time admitting it, but my gaydar went off the first time he appeared and nothing has changed my view in that.

I didn't see it coming, but nothing the attention where says surprises me. I have no idea what is true and what isn't, but I could not care less. I ff through all of her scenes. Vickie called this one. She is running the show. The others are pretty awful too, but she has just passed into pathetic attention where.

Agree. I tried to give her the benefit of the doubt that she was just so miserable in her marriage and then the stress of the divorce. First episode this season she actually seemed happy, but it is clear that miserable is just who Shannon is. Yes, David was a jerk, but she nagged and belittled him endlessly, so it's hard to say if he was always like that. Now, she is still miserable, unpleasant and a complete drunk. It should be Shannon's last season but, frankly, it may be time to be this shows last season. Unless they just fire them all and start from scratch again.

I certainly didn't think Covid would be over in 60 days, back in March and neither did most of my close friends. Elizabeth lost some points with me on that stupid statement, and I find this whole "He won't sleep with me because I am legally married" to be suspect. There is something going on there we aren't in on. Yet. I do think Shannon has a drinking problem, but I am no more interested in seeing it as a story line than I am with Brown Wind. This show has really jumped the shark. I wonder how the ratings are this year.

Yes, I thought he was going to say Grace as well.

Agree on all points. Jury's still out for me on Pringle, but I cannot imagine why a grown woman, mother and business owner would want to be with Austin.

I just got through last week's show, because I am bored I can only take about 15 minutes at a time. Sorry, but I detest Brownwind snd her gay husband and I felt that whole "aren't we supportive of our son" was for their benefit, not his. I do not care if she us an alcoholic or not, but it is, apparently, the story line we have to hear about. It was nice to see Shannon happy for an episode or two, but her and new girl playing one up games reminded me how rigid, snobbish and difficult she can be. I gave new girl a little more slack since she is new and might be trying a bit too hard. She seems decent enough, but it's early. Shockingly, Gina is not annoying me much this season. She still doesn't fit, but maybe that gives her a more honest view of these bitches. Kelly is still tge worst human currently on any of the shows I still watch, except Brandi, but she us not an actual Howive anymore so, for know, Kelly is it. I am totally missing anything good looking or sexy about her new guy. In fact, I find him downright ugly. Emily could not be anymore boring. This show needs a huge shake up or it's dead.

I'm in. Great scenery, great house porn, women that actually have money. I was so bored with this weeks OC, I just could not make it through the recording, so I moved onto this and was pretty fascinated. Married to step-grandpa is definitely the creepiest thing I have seen on BRAVO and I have been watching since the very first episode of the very first franchise, so that is saying something. Still, I'm in.

Agree 100%. I am open to some intelligent content for a change, mixed in with the drunken silliness. We sure aren't going to get it from the likes of Kathryn and Austen. A certain segment of the audience will be offended, but it just might hold onto some of us wondering if we were up for another season of nothing but drunk and stupid. I am looking to Leva as a big part of that.

So far, I like her. I hope she continues to slam Austen and Kathryn. They are such useless human beings.

Wasn't he involved in some lawsuit? Not as part of his job, but being sued? This could be a play to protect assets.

This. I have rewatched all the earlier seasons recently since my social life is so Covid limited. Kathryn is just an awful person. Sure, she was very young in the beginning, but as hard as the show has tried to redeem her, it isn't possible. She has used and abused so many people, Jennifer, Danni, and Elizabeth especially. Everything is always about her. She has no idea what actual friendship is. She is stupid and has no interest in learning a thing. I miss Cameron and I hope the new girl gives Kathryn hell. Austin remains boring. I think Madison is really pretty, but I haven't really figured her out and definitely cannot figure out what a pretty girl with her own business, is doing with a loser like him.

I can't with this show. It is beyond boring. I do not care about Brownind and her drinking. Not even sure I believe any of it, it reeks of phony story line. Emily and Gina are boring, and I can't stand Kelly. On Gina's Condo, it looks to be roughly the same size as the one I sold 2 years ago. Maybe a bit larger, but I lived alone. Considering her location, which must be in South County, that little condo they are looking down their noses at is easily worth around $600,000. Mine, in West OC-Sold for 489,000, but that isn't much in OC. I cannot believe that these women are throwing money, and very big money away on rent. At least Gina is building equity and getting a tax write off. I do miss Vickie's house, if not Vickie. I want to see lifestyles I don't live, not women renting or living in a condo not much better than mine.

I thought this guy was really ugly. Yes, so was the last guy. I detest Kelly.. The new girl seems nice. At least I didn't hate her after her first appearance like I did Brown Wind, and then found out she's a dog lover, so far, so good. Shannon seems like a different person, we will see how long before neurotic Shannon reappears. Still don't care about Gina and find Emily as boring as ever. I am mainly curious to see how they handle Covid.

Good point. I cannot stand Leah, she brings nothing to this show. I will miss Dorinda's house at least. I also found myself in thevodd position of feeling defensive of Ramona. Andy b is awful to her. Ramona is Ramona. She is often thoughtless, rude and a complete dingbat, but she is not, fundamentally, mean. Blunt, yes. But not mean. I think LeAnn came out the best this season.

Same here. I figured it would be the worst of the season, but sounds like the best. Makes you wonder how out of touch BRAVO is with their viewers.

I have had this on all day. Was this the season Brandi and Kim got fired? They were just horrid. I remember how much I wanted them gone, but this has all reminded me again.

Thank you Denise!

She must have thought Kyle could protect her. Guess not.

Yeah, that's my take. When Shannon emerges as my favorite, only because as nutty as she is, she is now the "normal" one, the show's in trouble. I guess Emily is pretty normal, but so damn boring. The other 3 returnees are just plain awful. I watched this from the beginning, even vaguely knew a few of the originals, business associates from the Real Estate,/Mortgage industry in OC. So, it is hard to give up, but I have a feeling this will be the season. I will check it out, but I am not optimistic.

Amen. Could not even get through the reunion, it always has to be about Leah. Detest her.

Harry was married to her before she dumped him for Michael Bolten.

I didn't like Denise when she joined. But couldn't really remember why. As soon as Rinna mentioned Heather, bingi, there it was. It was so long ago, butI remember feeling she had violated "girl code". Watching Denise on the show, she seemed about foul mouthed and graphic for me. So, it's not like my favorite HW was being attacked. It was just more proof that they must have a victim. I am sick of Dorit pretending they are filthy rich, Kyle pretendinh she is happily married, Erika pretending like she gives a shit about any of these women and Rinna oretending she is human. Teddi is just insufferable, and has been since her first appearance. They should really just clean house. Keep Garcelle, if she's willing, dump the rest. And no more appearances by Brandi and Kim. It took forever to get rid of them the first time around, I do not ever want to see either of them again. I really only watched this year because with Civid the TV pickings are slim. But. I can't with this pathetic group of women anymore.