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As pretentious as she can be, I mostly liked Heather and she definitely brings the house and wardrobe porn that has been missing. I am thrilled Brown wind and Kelly are gone and it took me a minute to picture Elizabeth. She brought nothing. Emily is Boring, but tolerable. I am actually hoping things are looking up. If they don't ruin it with Tammy Sue. A couple of new housewives they are saying are being added.

Thanks, I was beginning to think my memory was going😃😀 Affair with a judge. Hmm. Wonder if we will hear any of this on the show?

I thought that was actually funny and for a second wondered if the pageant thing might be cute and fun. Stupid me.

This is great news. Cannot stand any of them and I always liked fancy pants. Looks like they took out the trash. Hopefully next season New York will follow suit. If they even get a next season after this train wreck.

Weren't their reports that he had a girlfriend? That was before the legal issues came out and overshadowed the divorce, but I am sure I read that thinking how ironic it was that the old husband was cheating on the trophy wife. The trophy wife with the gigantic ego, no less

I was wondering about that, did they shut down? Because Orange County didn't when Shannon and Emily got it. I hope so, because ai want to go far enough into the season to see the revelations about the stealing. If these bitches give Erika a pass after the crap they gave for Denise for (allegedly) having sex with another consenting adult, they all deserve to be fired well, actually, other than Garcrlle and maybe Kathy, that would be a good plan anyway.

Didn't she file for Divorce about a month before the charges? I suppose that could be interpreted a few ways. She could have found out and been horrified-which I find hard to ascribe to her-or she got wind of the coming storm and hoped filing would make her look innocent. I tend to agree with your basic premise though. He may never have said, "by the way, I am stealing from widows and orphans", but it's very likely she willfully chose to ignore obvious evidence that something was off. Erika Jayne's version of "don't ask, don't tell".

The one that ruined my former favorite franchise, New York. She has made the show unwatchable.

She is arrogant enough, but doubt she is stupid enough. I wonder if this gets her a postponement? I think Leah stole the title from Brandi, so now Erika can take it from Leah, IMO But, I still want to watch Erika, if only to see her fake world crumble. I don't want to watch Leah. Or Brandi.

I am very disappointed in this decision. I almost never watch Network TV anymore. Last year, I watched "Evil", "Manifest", "FBI" and "Dateline". I stopped watching "FBI" this season because it sucked and CBSA decided to move "Evil" to their new streaming network. Now, with Manifest gone, it will just be new episodes of Dateline. I don't care if it moves to streaming because I am not going to pay for multiple streaming services to watch the few shows I like. I really would like to know what the ending for this show is. I need to learn to just skip this type of show because the networks do this all the time.

I assumed that shuffling off Grace and Cal had more to do with Covid than the actors. My godson works as a "production assistant" (no authority, more of a general assistant, but he gets to work on sets) and he was saying that when Covid numbers were still really bad, some shows created "Pods". That way the actors were primarily exposed to a group of 5 or 6 people that needed to film together as much as possible. Sort if the same theory some schools operated on. I assumed the split cast was during the Covid Surge last fall and, as things got better, there was less need for that.

Good to know Ramona doesn't go. I have been to an election night party, but all of us had voted for the same person. Not sure about this group, I kind of doubt Lu or Sonja bother to vote, but I could be wrong. Of course, even if they are all in complete agreement, if Leah's there it will just turn into a screaming match, AKA any episode if RHONY. I will record so I can fast forward through most of it.

This. I would add that Teresa is truly an idiot and lives in a state of denial. Her new boyfriend gives off the same creepy con man vibes Joe did and at least I would believe Joe married Teresa for love, whatever it later turned into. I would bet my 401K that this guy is there for the fame and money and she will never see it. Erika is smart and she is a Realist. A hard core realist. She married Tom for the money. She may have been clueless about where the money came from 20 years ago, but the last few years? Not buying it.

She probably desperately needs the money. I am not in any way defending the vile Witch, but really, what else does she do for money? Not a big demand for 50 year old strippers even if they are well preserved.

Teresa insisted she didn't know what Joe was up to but she still served time. Difference between her and Erika is that Teresa is an idiot. Erika is not. She is all kinds of reprehensible things, but the woman is not stupid.

Why does everyone seem to assume Grace will stay dead? Plenty of others on this show don't?

That's what I was thinking. Go for it, give her a spin off.

Anyone know of this train wreck was renewed? Seems like they would have been filming by now for sure. Kind of expected BRAVO to go one more year just to take advantage of Madison's part in the Jlo and Arod breakup.

Just wondering why anyone would think Grace is really dead? Or, I should say, going to stay dead. Zeke didn't. It appears Mick Ben and Cal were all dead and here they are. I figure she will somehow be back if the show continues, which I suspect it will, but on streaming so I won't be watching.

You make a good point, whether you meant to or not😀 it is entirely possible that Sutton is a whack job AND Crystal is a cold bitch. I don't know that I like either of them. We will see.

I am loving Garcelle this season and especially love her continuing to annoy Lisa with reminding her of her horrendous behavior. Of course Erika and Kyle were also awful and are getting a pass, but they weren't fake friends with Denise prior to the attack. WTAF was Lisa trying to do with that bullshit story about Harry's rapist friend? Did Denise rape someone? Or what is she trying to imply? Denise had a foul mouth, even for this show, and horrible taste in men, but she rescues dogs, took In her children's half-siblings when their own parents couldn't care for them and adopted a special needs child. I would list the kind things Lisa has done if I knew of a single one. Lisa, you look even worse after that nonsense. Shut up and focus on attacking Erika. Unless you are actually afraid of her. I am not sure what to think of the Crystal/Sutton drama. Sutton let her inner racist show when she rudely interrupted the conversation Crystal was having with Kyle. Walking into someone's room without being invited and staying is downright wierd. OTOH, Crystal could have acted like a strong woman instead of a delicate flower and looked a lot better. Sutton is nuts, at the very least has serious emotional and self esteem issues, so attacking her is going to be a bad look. I would choose polite ignore and be sure my door is locked. Kathy is strangely likeable for a Richard's sister, but I liked Kyle for a short while and never liked Kim, so let's say I will take my time deciding on her. As for the reason I tuned in this season, I do hope we are starting the "watch the evil ice princess fall" segment if the season. I can't wait to see if stealing from orphans and widows is as important to these witches as the possible sexual activities of 2 consenting adults. Let the hypocrisy begin.

Erika only has block of ice or bitch. I suspect we will see more of the bitch side as the revelations unfold. I don't think she is going to like being on the receiving end of the Coven-apologies to whomever I stole that term from, but it is perfect. It excludes Garcelle and Krystal and Kathy since they weren't there.

Oh, I am here for her bringing it up every chance she gets. Rinna HATES it. That's good enough for me.

Amen. That's what most of us are here for. To see Karma in action.

She also discussed how she filed BK and stiffed people she owed money to. Not due to Jon loss or a medical crises, which should be why bankruptcy laws exist, but because she wanted to pursue being a celebrity. Not what I consider trustworthy. Same here. I only watched a few minutes because I just did not want to waste any more time with her.