2019 Auditions, Finals, and Training Camp Spoilers

[ClosetDCCFan]

58 minutes ago, Loves2Dance said:

The path was smooth and paved for her last year too. She had a guaranteed spot on the team and despite her behavior, still would have made the team if the things she did weren't so public.

I guess her idiocy is what I struggle with.  If she would just get out of her own damn way, she would make this team hands down, irrespective of whether there are 36 more qualified individuals at training camp?!  So honestly, has she (and her mother) learned NOTHING from last year?  It’s seems to me that the only thing that threatens her spot this year is more conniving.  

[itme]

am i the only one who doesnt feel like VK is some manipulative or "conniving" person??? 

I'm from Alabama so I know people in the south can be catty but she just seems like she'd rather be cheering others on instead of putting others down. VK just doesnt strike me as someone who looks for drama, i feel like she looks for fun and idk.. joy in life

i still feel like the whole jinelle thing was taken way out of proportion cuz again, it was a year ago (by gones be by gones) and jinelle has forgiven victoria 100000x over cuz ya know...she's an adult. and accepted VK's apology on the show so like?

other than that i just feel like she is the kind of person to skip to the good parts and like if she saw all this it would break her heart cuz yes she may look dumb at times..but manipulative?? catty?? 

i much rather get those vibes from other TCC's and DCC's before i get it from VK

[BBK]

7 hours ago, Jennv said:

I rewatched the Chelsea affair episodes recently. Here is what baffles me, she had her little “fatties r still in the team” on camera meltdown and kitty told on her.

That was the episode where I truly disliked Kitty from then on...& I actually FB’d her & told her...HaHa!!! No joke...

What’s funny about Kitty in that episode, is that she went to K&J & said Chelsea was being “negative” about the meeting they just had with her (I think about weight, right?) & they called Chel back in...& yet Kitty is way far & above NEGATIVE in her comments to the DCC women (TCC & Vets). She calls it ‘keeping it real’ & ‘telling it like it is’, but in actuality it’s rude, mean & disrespectful. WHY DCC (& CMT) continue to show her segment, when women are trying to empower one another now is beyond me...

I luv the boards & discussions here, but I’ve not watched a season all the way thru especially when Kitty is on...

Thanks for listening...er, reading...

[AndIOop]

Rewatching season 13 and am currently watching the episode where VK is called into the office after SG was announced. Completely forgot about Denise being in the office with K&J and it just baffles me that Kelli wanted her in the office because she didn't notice VK that night during practice. I'm sure there were others that did not particularly catch her eye that night but were they called in to talk with K&J and Denise??? Nope. 

[itme]

14 minutes ago, ThatSlaps said:

Rewatching season 13 and am currently watching the episode where VK is called into the office after SG was announced. Completely forgot about Denise being in the office with K&J and it just baffles me that Kelli wanted her in the office because she didn't notice VK that night during practice. I'm sure there were others that did not particularly catch her eye that night but were they called in to talk with K&J and Denise??? Nope. 

that stuff blows my mind. i think its cuz when travis wall was there, VK was his favorite of the rookies. (yes that means over jalyn and caroline lol) so from then on she was held in high regards and should always be delivering. 

So when she doesnt get noticed its like "wheres the VK from travis wall night?"

[ClosetDCCFan]

12 minutes ago, itme said:

am i the only one who doesnt feel like VK is some manipulative or "conniving" person??? 

Last year we watched as Kelli and MTT tried to sell us this narrative of how “incredible” VK was which, for many of us, just didn’t match what we were seeing  for ourselves on social media.  Rumors swirled on this board as soon as auditions rolled around and, as we watched first hand the double standard being pushed on us by Kelli and the show, most of those rumors proved absolutely true.  So when tidbits pop up again this year, some of which specifically relate to how much effort is being put forth to protect VK and that original narrative so as not to have a repeat of last year’s embarrassment, it isn’t a stretch for me to think there is considerable manipulation going on.  Maybe VK isn’t sophisticated enough to be orchestrating it, but it sure appears to be happening on her behalf.  And by all accounts, she’s a willing participant.   

[itme]

1 minute ago, ClosetDCCFan said:

Last year we watched as Kelli and MTT tried to sell us this narrative of how “incredible” VK was which, for many of us, just didn’t match what we were seeing  for ourselves on social media.  Rumors swirled on this board as soon as auditions rolled around and, as we watched first hand the double standard being pushed on us by Kelli and the show, most of those rumors proved absolutely true.  So when tidbits pop up again this year, some of which specifically relate to how much effort is being put forth to protect VK and that original narrative so as not to have a repeat of last year’s embarrassment, it isn’t a stretch for me to think there is considerable manipulation going on.  Maybe VK isn’t sophisticated enough to be orchestrating it, but it sure appears to be happening on her behalf.  And by all accounts, she’s a willing participant.   

I'm gonna agree to disagree, i still think people abuse the fact that she's young so she is easy to throw into the mix of gossip cuz no one is gonna root for the child. I think what people make up (rumors and gossip wise) is always blown out of proportion and arent true. on top of the show making her look like an idiot (also blown out of proportion)

the hardest thing is that no matter what she does, people find ways to pick her apart. idk i just feel like shes a sweet and vivacious girl who people just want to destroy. 

[Mercurialsteph]

2 hours ago, SanDiegoGal said:

Yes! Hell froze over, pigs started flying, parallel lines now intersect, teenagers across the nation put down their phones, I actually finished my shampoo and conditioner at the same time, AND... Victoria Kalina was cut from training camp.

Wait this is a joke right?? Like not for real?? Sarcasm right? Cause that would be a veeeery interesting turn of events. And I am sure some people would be thrilled to see that maybe Kelli has come to her senses. 

Edited July 8, 2019 by Mercurialsteph

[hathorlive]

2 minutes ago, itme said:

I'm gonna agree to disagree, i still think people abuse the fact that she's young so she is easy to throw into the mix of gossip cuz no one is gonna root for the child. I think what people make up (rumors and gossip wise) is always blown out of proportion and arent true. on top of the show making her look like an idiot (also blown out of proportion)

the hardest thing is that no matter what she does, people find ways to pick her apart. idk i just feel like shes a sweet and vivacious girl who people just want to destroy. 

It's really strange.  No one ever talks about how people were picking on Brennan and out to destroy her dream.  Could that be because she wasn't tattling on people and causing problems for other candidates?  Usually, when there is smoke, there is fire.   I didn't notice that anyone other than Kelli and Kitty were fighting to keep her from being cut.  I'm sure there is always the chance she is just the sweetest little thing ever.  But after 13 seasons of seeing thin girls being called "dcc soft" don't tell us VK wasn't given special treatment.  Kelli will probably stay blind to the problems VK brings until the crowds start mooing at her when she's on the field.

[Loves2Dance]

7 minutes ago, itme said:

I'm gonna agree to disagree, i still think people abuse the fact that she's young so she is easy to throw into the mix of gossip cuz no one is gonna root for the child. I think what people make up (rumors and gossip wise) is always blown out of proportion and arent true. on top of the show making her look like an idiot (also blown out of proportion)

the hardest thing is that no matter what she does, people find ways to pick her apart. idk i just feel like shes a sweet and vivacious girl who people just want to destroy. 

Being young is no excuse to act the way she did and using her youthfulness as an excuse just furthers the lack of responsibility Vikkie has never been forced to accept. Lacey was also 18 when she tried out and she was a rock star from Year 1 to Year 5; she didn't destroy people, lie about people, make the locker room toxic...etc. Vikkie did all that and more. 

[itme]

2 minutes ago, hathorlive said:

It's really strange.  No one ever talks about how people were picking on Brennan and out to destroy her dream.  Could that be because she wasn't tattling on people and causing problems for other candidates?  Usually, when there is smoke, there is fire.   I didn't notice that anyone other than Kelli and Kitty were fighting to keep her from being cut.  I'm sure there is always the chance she is just the sweetest little thing ever.  But after 13 seasons of seeing thin girls being called "dcc soft" don't tell us VK wasn't given special treatment.  Kelli will probably stay blind to the problems VK brings until the crowds start mooing at her when she's on the field.

I can see what you mean

I still feel like people blow things up to belittle her. Yes, when theres smoke theres fire but I feel like that isnt the case this training camp. (even thought ppl still wanna say so)

But again, that was last year and even though K&J dont forget what TCC's do. I feel like they realize that alot can happen in a year and what you see is what you get. 

[Mercurialsteph]

Just now, Loves2Dance said:

Being young is no excuse to act the way she did and using her youthfulness as an excuse just furthers the lack of responsibility Vikkie has never been forced to accept. Lacey was also 18 when she tried out and she was a rock star from Year 1 to Year 5; she didn't destroy people, lie about people, make the locker room toxic...etc. Vikkie did all that and more. 

Lots  of very mature 18 year olds have passed through those doors and risen up to become leaders: Lacey, Maddie, Jenna {I know there were some issues there to but not like this} started at 18 

[itme]

1 minute ago, Loves2Dance said:

Being young is no excuse to act the way she did and using her youthfulness as an excuse just furthers the lack of responsibility Vikkie has never been forced to accept. Lacey was also 18 when she tried out and she was a rock star from Year 1 to Year 5; she didn't destroy people, lie about people, make the locker room toxic...etc. Vikkie did all that and more. 

i think people handle youth differently so ill stand by my previous statement. VK isnt Lacey they handle things differently 

I think there was way more pressure on VK and Lacey didnt have an entire community attacking her, her rookie year

[Shady580]

53 minutes ago, itme said:

am i the only one who doesnt feel like VK is some manipulative or "conniving" person??? 

I'm from Alabama so I know people in the south can be catty but she just seems like she'd rather be cheering others on instead of putting others down. VK just doesnt strike me as someone who looks for drama, i feel like she looks for fun and idk.. joy in life

i still feel like the whole jinelle thing was taken way out of proportion cuz again, it was a year ago (by gones be by gones) and jinelle has forgiven victoria 100000x over cuz ya know...she's an adult. and accepted VK's apology on the show so like?

other than that i just feel like she is the kind of person to skip to the good parts and like if she saw all this it would break her heart cuz yes she may look dumb at times..but manipulative?? catty?? 

i much rather get those vibes from other TCC's and DCC's before i get it from VK

She lost me last year. To me, I got mean girl vibes everytime she talked about Dayton. There seemed to be a smirk under every "oh Dayton is so great it sucks she got called into the office". I need to rewatch but I remember being super put off by Victoria by her reaction to Daytons cut. Based off her behavior just by the show, she is one that I would have steered clear from. 

[itme]

Just now, Shady580 said:

She lost me last year. To me, I got mean girl vibes everytime she talked about Dayton. There seemed to be a smirk under every "oh Dayton is so great it sucks she got called into the office". I need to rewatch but I remember being super put off by Victoria by her reaction to Daytons cut. Based off her behavior just by the show, she is one that I would have steered clear from. 

wasnt she sobbing when Dayton got cut?? like theyre real friends i think and I dont feel like VK would fake it for the camera 

like she can fake it "happy wise" but faking it "petty wise" seems beyond her

[hathorlive]

Just now, itme said:

i think people handle youth differently so ill stand by my previous statement. VK isnt Lacey they handle things differently 

I think there was way more pressure on VK and Lacey didnt have an entire community attacking her, her rookie year

Nobody was attacking VK until we saw her actions during season 13.   You can't blame a bad edit when a newbie complains about not making show group.  If anyone other than VK had whined about not getting an elite position before making the actual team, they would have been ridiculed too.  THey made exceptions for her weight, which was glaringly obvious.  They excused her poor attitude and selfish actions.  She's reaping what she's sowing.  And more than likely, VK is this way because her parents never held her accountable for her actions.  You can't blame people for disliking her sense of entitlement when so many other candidates put their heads down and work hard for a spot on the team.  She felt that it was her spot and she deserved it, without doing ANY of the work.

[Loves2Dance]

5 minutes ago, itme said:

i think people handle youth differently so ill stand by my previous statement. VK isnt Lacey they handle things differently 

I think there was way more pressure on VK and Lacey didnt have an entire community attacking her, her rookie year

Vikkie didn't have an entire community against her until she acted like an entitled brat who lied, manipulated and back-stabbed. Vikkie deserves the ire. 

[itme]

1 minute ago, hathorlive said:

Nobody was attacking VK until we saw her actions during season 13.   You can't blame a bad edit when a newbie complains about not making show group.  If anyone other than VK had whined about not getting an elite position before making the actual team, they would have been ridiculed too.  THey made exceptions for her weight, which was glaringly obvious.  They excused her poor attitude and selfish actions.  She's reaping what she's sowing.  And more than likely, VK is this way because her parents never held her accountable for her actions.  You can't blame people for disliking her sense of entitlement when so many other candidates put their heads down and work hard for a spot on the team.  She felt that it was her spot and she deserved it, without doing ANY of the work.

she barely even complained lol she literally said 'i really wanted show group' thats it lol lots of TCC's have said that but go off i guess

[Holly85]

2 hours ago, SanDiegoGal said:

Yes! Hell froze over, pigs started flying, parallel lines now intersect, teenagers across the nation put down their phones, I actually finished my shampoo and conditioner at the same time, AND... Victoria Kalina was cut from training camp.

This was a joke right !!

[itme]

Just now, Holly85 said:

This was a joke right !!

yeah VK hasnt been cut

[Mercurialsteph]

2 minutes ago, itme said:

yeah VK hasnt been cut

so HAS anyone been cut aside from Alexandra? That was the most recent one right?

[Holly85]

Just now, Mercurialsteph said:

so HAS anyone been cut aside from Alexandra? That was the most recent one right?

Yes she is the most recent !! It’s been rookie week the vets and k and j have all been on vacation 

[itme]

Just now, Mercurialsteph said:

so HAS anyone been cut aside from Alexandra? That was the most recent one right?

oh yeah lol i forgot alexandra was the most recent one. i dont think there has been anymore

[JustRosie]

1 minute ago, Mercurialsteph said:

so HAS anyone been cut aside from Alexandra? That was the most recent one right?

We should we due for another cut soon, right?

[Holly85]

Just now, Namaste said:

We should we due for another cut soon, right?

Yeah once j and k and vets all report back to training camp 

[scorpio1031]

I wonder if the girls will start posting swimsuit pics now that the calendar cover has been revealed.  Or will they have to wait until it's shown?  Cause if I were Brennan I'd be posting that pic everywhere:)

[MavisL]

I was openly rooting for Victoria, to the eye-rolling dismay of several. I rooted for her last year, I rooted for her comeback, I rooted for her improvement and betterment. I chalked her questionable behavior up to youthful indiscretions and maybe some bitchery thrown in. After all, it happens. I am done rooting for her. She has proven to be the personification of the stuff that Regina George is made of, and with the culture around her, why would she turn out any differently? 

The real crime lies with Kelli, Tina, Judy, Charlotte, Kitty and the horse they rode in on and anyone that looks like them or the horse.

We've been hurled into a culture where people aren't even feeling obligated to APPEAR to be magnanimous or just. Where certain people feel emboldened and entitled to stop apologizing for their absolute worst instincts and shamelessly nepotistic behavior. It's the fabric of who we are right now.

I'd encourage Victoria to thank Mommy and TPTB for doing their part to make this work for her, but I seriously doubt true gratitude is a part of her character makeup.

[BeverlyHills]

6 hours ago, KatieC said:

It was talked here and other places. What kind of publicity do you mean?  Like a news story about it?  Not surprised at all if that’s what you mean. How is it even news worthy?

I think it was because the engagement was a surprise for Jinelle which is common when people pop the question.  Perhaps the staff and Cassie knew it was happening but remained tight lipped to ensure Jinelle had a magical proposal.  In addition, it doesn’t matter if it’s heretosexual  or same sex oriented, they were being professional as colleagues to not make it a big deal.  Most work professionals wouldn’t be broadcasting an office romance until they were no longer employed there.  After the engagement and they no longer worked there, everyone supported it.  Not everything has to be political.  And if we want to normalize all relationships why does everyone insist on “showcasing it” rather than just a normal celebration of two people in love?  

[scorpio1031]

4 minutes ago, KnyghtRyder said:

I know someone mentioned that Kristin has received a lot of praise this time around in TC, but anyone with insight have an idea on how Lily is doing? Rewatching Season 13 this weekend reminded me of her heartbreak at the end of last TC. 

CMT MTT Editors were so focused on getting VK sound bites, that we never really got to know Lily that well. And by “we” I mean: the viewers, Kelli, Judy, Kitty, and Charlotte. It was kinda like they turned around and bumped into her and said, “Oh Lily. We forgot you existed. And because you didn’t remind us that you existed, we are going to have to let you go. K? Byeeee 👋 👋.”

During the two hour special, K&J would sit in the office while the girls were practicing, and they would call girls in to cut them or talk to them.  It wasn't the big production like it is now.  They called this one gal in, Elizabeth, and cut her.  And she had never been called in before, and said so.  I think there are some that are called into the office consistently so it isn't that much of a surprise.  And some, it's like you say, they forgot all about them.

[SmpIsimon]

The irony is that if they focused on all the back-stabbing and shit-stirring that VK and TK do, they'd have a hell of a reality show!  

[scorpio1031]

1 minute ago, SmpIsimon said:

The irony is that if they focused on all the back-stabbing and shit-stirring that VK and TK do, they'd have a hell of a reality show!  

After the whole Varsity Blues scandal, it would definitely be timely and newsworthy.  Another parent paving the way for their child.

[ClosetDCCFan]

45 minutes ago, itme said:

she barely even complained lol she literally said 'i really wanted show group' thats it lol lots of TCC's have said that but go off i guess

There seems to be plenty of examples backing up the negative image most people on this board have of VK.  If you know of other real-world examples of positive VK behavior, then please share. 

[MavisL]

4 minutes ago, SmpIsimon said:

The irony is that if they focused on all the back-stabbing and shit-stirring that VK and TK do, they'd have a hell of a reality show!  

Messy mommy didn't pass along the accountability gene to messy baby, clearly. Beautiful storm, my ass.

[scorpio1031]

4 minutes ago, MavisL said:

Messy mommy didn't pass along the accountability gene to messy baby, clearly. Beautiful storm, my ass.

Well, like I've said before, every storm leaves damage in it's wake.

[MavisL]

6 minutes ago, scorpio1031 said:

Well, like I've said before, every storm leaves damage in it's wake.

LOL so true! I feel like Tyra Banks screaming at the ANTM contestant "I WAS ROOTING FOR YOU!!"

[SingleMom9]

Any guesses on who might be next cut?

[PhillyFan]

4 hours ago, Jazzmom said:

My thoughts exactly, so why did Daphne say she only met her 10 minutes ago?  This was right after the team announcement and they were all going around hugging each other.  

If she said “10 minutes” then I can guarantee she said it in a funny, facetious way.  I’ve made similar jokes about my 6 year old being a baby “5 minutes ago.” Just an exaggerated way of saying that times flies.

[Holly85]

4 minutes ago, SingleMom9 said:

Any guesses on who might be next cut?

That’s really hard to choose who would be cut next who do you think 

[SingleMom9]

4 minutes ago, Holly85 said:

That’s really hard to choose who would be cut next who do you think 

If I had to venture a guess solely on what I’ve read on here, I would say Madeline S or Meredith...Madeline appears to be very technically trained but just doesn’t scream DCC in my humble opinion (I know she’s a legacy and all).  I know Kelli loves Meredith but there was discussion of her not looking very strong in the few videos we’ve seen.  Also not a huge fan of Lisa Mills.

[scorpio1031]

Just now, SingleMom9 said:

If I had to venture a guess solely on what I’ve read on here, I would say Madeline S or Meredith...Madeline appears to be very technically trained but just doesn’t scream DCC in my humble opinion (I know she’s a legacy and all).  I know Kelli loves Meredith but there was discussion of her not looking very strong in the few videos we’ve seen.  Also not a huge fan of Lisa Mills.

I would also say Meredith.  Madeline may have to spend a year learning the DCC style.  

[Holly85]

3 minutes ago, SingleMom9 said:

If I had to venture a guess solely on what I’ve read on here, I would say Madeline S or Meredith...Madeline appears to be very technically trained but just doesn’t scream DCC in my humble opinion (I know she’s a legacy and all).  I know Kelli loves Meredith but there was discussion of her not looking very strong in the few videos we’ve seen.  Also not a huge fan of Lisa Mills.

It’s going to be hard figuring out the last 4 cuts needed to make a squad of 36 

[MavisL]

1 hour ago, BeverlyHills said:

I think it was because the engagement was a surprise for Jinelle which is common when people pop the question.  Perhaps the staff and Cassie knew it was happening but remained tight lipped to ensure Jinelle had a magical proposal.  In addition, it doesn’t matter if it’s heretosexual  or same sex oriented, they were being professional as colleagues to not make it a big deal.  Most work professionals wouldn’t be broadcasting an office romance until they were no longer employed there.  After the engagement and they no longer worked there, everyone supported it.  Not everything has to be political.  And if we want to normalize all relationships why does everyone insist on “showcasing it” rather than just a normal celebration of two people in love?  

Could you please clarify what you're saying?

[Holly85]

8 minutes ago, SingleMom9 said:

If I had to venture a guess solely on what I’ve read on here, I would say Madeline S or Meredith...Madeline appears to be very technically trained but just doesn’t scream DCC in my humble opinion (I know she’s a legacy and all).  I know Kelli loves Meredith but there was discussion of her not looking very strong in the few videos we’ve seen.  Also not a huge fan of Lisa Mills.

Who do you think will be the final cuts ? 

[Jennv]

I’m guessing Madeline S and Meredith will be the next to go

[SingleMom9]

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6 minutes ago, Holly85 said:

Who do you think will be the final cuts ? 

Hard to say as I don’t think I’ve seen hardly anything on Kat, Taylor P or Lisa.  Videos show Chandi as strong and I’m sure the 3 SG rookies are safe.  Personally I’m rooting for Julia but also haven’t heard or seen anything recent on her.

Edited July 8, 2019 by SingleMom9

[Holly85]

1 minute ago, SingleMom9 said:

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Hard to say as I don’t think I’ve seen hardly anything on Kat, Taylor P or Lisa.  Videos show Chandi as strong and I’m sure the 3 SG rookies are safe.  Personally I’m rooting for Julia but also haven’t heard or seen anything recent on her.

Haven’t seen anything on shania either 

[scorpio1031]

1 minute ago, Holly85 said:

Haven’t seen anything on shania either 

Poor thing.  I hope she is able to continue thru TC.

What's next though besides the usual?  Oxnard is coming up.

[JustRosie]

Has etiquette training happened yet?

[SingleMom9]

Just now, Holly85 said:

Haven’t seen anything on shania either 

I’m definitely rooting for Shaina after what she’s going through.  She looks to be a pretty technical dancer as well so I wonder how she’s adapted to the DCC style, although she probably has the help of Tess since they were Golden Girls together.  I’m amazed by the contrast of her red hair to prior blonde!

[SingleMom9]

10 minutes ago, scorpio1031 said:

Poor thing.  I hope she is able to continue thru TC.

Lovely show of support from all the messages many of the vets and some of the TCC left on Shaina’s latest Instagram post.