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8 hour window with no further movement seems like enough.  So the votes are now finalized at: 6 to DL MarkHB (Silver, Spruce, a1, meet trouble, LC, saoirse) 3 to DL meet trouble (MarkHB,

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Wolf pack Mark and JT met up at their lair.  Both were awake at the time. Alpha Mark snuck back to the village and bit Drogo, making him the Dream Wolf.  He then snuck back to the lair and took

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Them's the breaks.  And really, time was up before I made the call. With a final vote of 5-3, raven was captured by the Shady Grove police department.  And when they were unmasked, they were reve

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The Crazed Spruce

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Whatever @Drogo's role was, I'm guessing he figured out that I'm the troublemaker. Which would mean that he was either the Mystic Wolf, the Seer, the Paranormal Investigator, or the Robber. And judging by the order, if he was the Robber, I wouldn't have gotten to use my ability. I'm leaning heavily towards PI because he called out two roles, meaning he investigated two of us.

And yes, I said was.

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3 hours ago, Drogo said:

The Mystic Wolf goes after the Alpha Wolf, so had the AW turned the Drunk into a WW, the MW would receive a Wolf result when investigating the artist formerly known as Drunk.  Right @SVNBob, they would get the result based on the identity of the player at that point, with any actions that had already been done to them already done?

This is all correct.  Since the actions go in a prescribed order, interacting with a role will also depend on if any actions that went before also affected that role.

And since the Wolves act separately, unlike the Trio, they do not know what the other Wolves might do.   So they could choose to target the same person.

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JTMacc99

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47 minutes ago, The Crazed Spruce said:

And yes, I said was.

What is the risk in saying who you swapped him with?  What advantage does that give the wolves who actually think they are still wolves?

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Drogo

Drogo

1 hour ago, The Crazed Spruce said:

Whatever @Drogo's role was, I'm guessing he figured out that I'm the troublemaker. Which would mean that he was either the Mystic Wolf, the Seer, the Paranormal Investigator, or the Robber. And judging by the order, if he was the Robber, I wouldn't have gotten to use my ability. I'm leaning heavily towards PI because he called out two roles, meaning he investigated two of us.

And yes, I said was.

Who'd you swap me with, troubleshaker? 

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JTMacc99

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2 hours ago, saoirse said:

I know some things, but unfortunately, I'm not sure if they're going to be helpful at all based on what we know at this point. Does anyone else have any information?

What do you have? Knowledge of unclaimed roles? 

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formerlyfreedom

formerlyfreedom

13 minutes ago, saoirse said:

Yes, for one thing. Although, it's not 'unclaimed' any longer. And someone else may know about it as well.

Just realized I should clarify this - the ‘someone else’ wouldn’t know it was a previously unclaimed role. They’d just know the role, if things went smoothly. 

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Drogo

Drogo

12 minutes ago, aquarian1 said:

I'm still clueless.  I can see lots of you have info, but are being sly or vague and all that.  I get it.  So I'll just whistle away, twiddle my thumbs, enjoy the read. 🙂 

So sly. So vague.  So zzzzzzzzzzz.

27 minutes ago, CuriousParker said:

I have to wait for more info 1st.

Let me guess.. when Spruce says who he swapped me with, that'll be enough info for you to say that player was a Wolf? 

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5 minutes ago, Drogo said:

Let me guess.. when Spruce says who he swapped me with, that'll be enough info for you to say that player was a Wolf? 

Would I do that to you?  No.  No, I would not.

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MarkHB

MarkHB

4 minutes ago, The Crazed Spruce said:

I will say, the person I swapped @Drogo with has been uncharacteristically quiet this round....

Aw, hell, I'll just come out and say it. Where you at, @MarkHB?

Over in the DC Universe community reading 200 posts walling about the HBO Max announcements today.

I was a villager so swapping me with Drogo is a wash. 

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32 minutes ago, The Crazed Spruce said:

I will say, the person I swapped @Drogo with has been uncharacteristically quiet this round....

Aw, hell, I'll just come out and say it. Where you at, @MarkHB?

Now that this is out there, I'll just let you know I had no idea you were the Troublemaker, @The Crazed Spruce. I believe you now, though. 

Do we have a Seer? Maybe they can shed some light on Role A (which LC picked up.) 

3 hours ago, CuriousParker said:

I have to wait for more info 1st.

3 hours ago, saoirse said:

Just realized I should clarify this - the ‘someone else’ wouldn’t know it was a previously unclaimed role. They’d just know the role, if things went smoothly. 

Now would be a solid time to share what you know. 

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1 minute ago, Drogo said:

Do we have a Seer? Maybe they can shed some light on Role A (which LC picked up.) 

Here’s the thing - I know something about Role A. Although not the Role A that @Lady Calypso may have picked up.

3 minutes ago, Drogo said:

Now would be a solid time to share what you know.

I know what Role A was; I know who should have gotten it, all things being equal. And I know that you are one of two possible players who  should have gotten clued in to the role. Again, that’s if everything went according to plan. Chances of that happening are kinda slim though.

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15 minutes ago, saoirse said:

And I know that you are one of two possible players who  should have gotten clued in to the role.

And upon further reflection, I am pretty sure no one got clued in. For ‘reasons’. But I think I’ve probably said enough for tonight. 

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Meredith Quill

Meredith Quill

4 minutes ago, The Crazed Spruce said:

(Assuming we take @SilverStormm at face value, of course....)

No reason not to, anymore so than we are your good self. If I were lying, that'd be a pretty ballsy and reckless move on my part.

5 minutes ago, The Crazed Spruce said:

And I've outed that I switched roles, so the only reason @MarkHB would have to lie is if @Drogo was also a wolf. Which is a possibility, but it still puts the burden of proof squarely on @aquarian1.

Agreed.

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FormerMod-a1

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Like I said in my first post.  I don't know anything.  I didn't do anything.  I have no idea what was done to me.  If nothing, then I am villager.  If something, depending on those things I may still be villager (I hope so, at least). 

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Meredith Quill

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Just now, aquarian1 said:

Like I said in my first post.  I don't know anything.  I didn't do anything.  I have no idea what was done to me.  If nothing, then I am villager.  If something, depending on those things I may still be villager (I hope so, at least). 

This could equally apply to the dream wolf.

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Meredith Quill

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2 minutes ago, aquarian1 said:

Maybe those 3 sentences do, but not my whole post.  Way to ignore my direct claim of villager.  Now I'm beginning to feel like the wolves are circling me. 

Sorry, I wasn't ignoring it, I was disregarding it because I know for a fact that either you or MarkHB are lying about starting as a villager. As Spruce explained, MarkHB has no reason to lie now he knows he was swapped with Drogo.

ETA This could be minion-y behaviour - Halp! I'm seeing minions everywhere.

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I have no reason to lie either. 

4 hours ago, The Crazed Spruce said:

And I've outed that I switched roles, so the only reason @MarkHB would have to lie is if @Drogo was also a wolf. Which is a possibility, but it still puts the burden of proof squarely on @aquarian1.

(Assuming we take @SilverStormm at face value, of course....)

How does this put the burden of proof on me?  I'm a villager, which means I have no other information to offer.  I had no abilities, night moves, etc.  There is literally nothing I can do.  Also, that's a big assumption in your last sentence.  Just sayin.

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Meredith Quill

Meredith Quill

1 minute ago, aquarian1 said:

I have no reason to lie either. 

How does this put the burden of proof on me?  I'm a villager, which means I have no other information to offer.  I had no abilities, night moves, etc.  There is literally nothing I can do.  Also, that's a big assumption in your last sentence.  Just sayin.

It is an assumption yes that's true. But the chances of Spruce swapping one wolf with another wolf are low so I'm working on the basis of probability. Which means unless someone else later messed with you, you started out as probably the dream wolf or maybe the minion. The burden of proof is on you because only one vanilla villager role was in play at the start of Night, so as two players are claiming they started as VV's one must be lying and as has been demonstrated MarkHB no longer has reason to lie unless he knows Drogo was a fellow wolf (unlikely based on probability), that leaves you.

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Meredith Quill

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6 minutes ago, SilverStormm said:

only one vanilla villager role was in play at the start of Night

Quoting myself to say, this also is an assumption. I only got to see 2 of the unclaimed roles (A&B) so one of C or D could also have been a vanilla villager for all I know and you're both lying lol. 

@Drogo What role are you claiming at start of Night?

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Drogo

Drogo

4 hours ago, The Crazed Spruce said:

And I've outed that I switched roles, so the only reason @MarkHB would have to lie is if @Drogo was also a wolf. Which is a possibility, but it still puts the burden of proof squarely on @aquarian1.

28 minutes ago, SilverStormm said:

As Spruce explained, MarkHB has no reason to lie now he knows he was swapped with Drogo.

Correct- so @The Crazed Spruce and @MarkHB are golden in my book.  He wouldn't have claimed to be a villager if he knew he were no longer a villager and I had become a wolf; he'd out me and the vote would be easy against me.  

4 hours ago, The Crazed Spruce said:

(Assuming we take @SilverStormm at face value, of course....)

We can take her at more than face value since I will vouch for her.  

7 minutes ago, saoirse said:
8 minutes ago, Lady Calypso said:

So, which one was Role A given to, then?

Thank you for asking! It was given to Aquarian1.

So, if I'm following correctly--

Role A was the Thing.  Insightful @SilverStormm saw it was Thing.  Witchy @saoirse also saw it and gave it to A1, making "Whatever A1 Started As" the new Role A.  Drunk @Lady Calypso swapped her role for the new Role A, becoming whatever @aquarian1 started as.  

So.. @aquarian1.. what did you start the night as (because that's what LC is now)?  

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The Crazed Spruce

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14 minutes ago, saoirse said:

I gave Role A to either Aquarian1 or MarkHB. That means their role went to LC.

Thank you for asking! It was given to Aquarian1.

I was gonna float the possibility that @aquarian1 might've been the Insomiac, which would've been basically a vanilla villager if she went untouched, but since @saoirse swapped out her role, that doesn't seem likely.  So who's the Insomniac, then?

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Drogo

Drogo

59 minutes ago, aquarian1 said:

How does this put the burden of proof on me?  I'm a villager, which means I have no other information to offer.  I had no abilities, night moves, etc.  There is literally nothing I can do.  Also, that's a big assumption in your last sentence.  Just sayin.

We know you're not a villager.  The jig is up. 

You're a Thing.   (Sure it's not glamorous but could be worse, you could be a Drunk.)

So the real question is... what were you? 

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The Crazed Spruce

The Crazed Spruce

Okay, let's see now....

  • Claimed so far:
    • Seer (Silver)
    • Paranormal Investigator (Drogo)
    • Troublemaker (Spruce)
    • Witch (saoirse)
    • Drunk (Lady Calypso)
    • Vanilla #1 (Mark)
    • Vanilla #2 (aquarian1)
  • Unclaimed:
    • Vanilla #2 (??)
    • The Thing
  • Unspoken For:
    • Alpha Wolf
    • Mystic Wolf
    • Dreamwolf
    • Minion
    • Robber
    • Insomniac

And that's just starting points, not counting any roles that might've been switched. Did I miss anyone?

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JTMacc99

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On 10/28/2019 at 5:28 PM, SVNBob said:

Which reminds me of one more rule to remind you all of.  In the event of a tie vote (for example: both of these Alphas getting an equal number of votes, and both more than a third party), all parties involved in the tie are DL'd.

So I think Bob is rather pleased with himself right now for tossing out the "in the event of a tie" line. 

Because the way I see it, there are four wolves and a minion running around right now. One of whom doesn't know he's a wolf yet, one who accidentally turned him or herself into a wolf, and one of whom we haven't heard from at all. 

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Drogo

Drogo

CuriousParker - Minion

Drogo - PI-turned-Villager

aquarian1 - ??? #1-turned-Thing

MarkHB - Villager-turned-PI

Lady Calypso - Drunk-turned-??? #1

saoirse - Witch

The Crazed Spruce - Troublemaker

JTMacc99 - ??? #2

SilverStormm - Seer

meet trouble - ??? #3

@JTMacc99 @meet trouble @aquarian1 now would be a good time to say what you started the night as. 

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