Million Dollar Listing LA - General Discussion

[Mindthinkr]

21 minutes ago, RoseAllDay said:

Been thinking about this, and given how he loves old homes and knows about the architects and the history, I wouldn’t mind watching a show where he visits these homes and talks about design, etc. I am a sucker for old homes, and I always enjoyed seeing those over the 15 car elevator garage, 20 room-40 bathroom sterile monstrosity homes that are always featured anymore.

I agree with you. That would make a good show. Flagg goes into an old home with history and explains the architecture, details, history and relevance to its location. I’d be in as a viewer. 

[meep.meep]

That would be a great show, but I doubt that Bravo would be interested.

I watched a few episodes from a much earlier season where Flagg and Bobby got engaged (who invites their parents to witness their proposal?) and Heather and Josh A. found out they were expecting.  There was just a lot more going on - more agents and a lot more focus on the complexity of the deals.  Losing the Brits and Madison was a big loss to the show.

The Altmans definitely deserve to ride off into the sunset.  Who wants to have the same job forever.

[Shrek]

34 minutes ago, meep.meep said:

 

I watched a few episodes from a much earlier season where Flagg and Bobby got engaged (who invites their parents to witness their proposal?) and Heather and Josh A. found out they were expecting.  There was just a lot more going on - more agents and a lot more focus on the complexity of the deals.  Losing the Brits and Madison was a big loss to the show.

I'm not sure Madison was a great loss but Heather looked fantastic back then before she started with all the crap injections etc.

[RoseAllDay]

Just saw a commercial on Bravo for something called Sold On SLC. Looks like it’s a hybrid of MDL and Real Housewives drama. Starts Dec. 4.

From what I just saw, hard pass.

Bravo needs to learn when to let things go.

[RoseAllDay]

18 hours ago, meep.meep said:

That would be a great show, but I doubt that Bravo would be interested.

I watched a few episodes from a much earlier season where Flagg and Bobby got engaged (who invites their parents to witness their proposal?) and Heather and Josh A. found out they were expecting.  There was just a lot more going on - more agents and a lot more focus on the complexity of the deals.  Losing the Brits and Madison was a big loss to the show.

The Altmans definitely deserve to ride off into the sunset.  Who wants to have the same job forever.

Unless Flagg is contractually bound to Bravo, he could do this on other networks. If he wanted to, of course.

The Brits focused more on real estate, I thought. I agree the show lost a lot when they left.

[CrazyInAlabama]

The Brits were adorable.   They do only high end real estate for another company now.   

It's going to be hard to find major agents who want to put in the huge time required by filming.    

[CrazyInAlabama]

Tracy Tudor left Doulas Elliman agency for Compass.   That's the same agency Josh Flagg works for. 

Edited January 7 by CrazyInAlabama

[Pike Ludwell]

I wonder if the CA fires have damaged/destroyed many of the houses or areas spotlighted in this show. Anyone know the extent, if any? Beverly Hills, the Bird Streets, etc.?

Edited January 9 by Pike Ludwell

[Shrek]

6 minutes ago, Pike Ludwell said:

I wonder if the CA fires have damaged/destroyed many of the houses or areas spotlighted in this show. Anyone know the extent, if any? Beverly Hills, the Bird Streets, etc.?

The places you mention are not too close to the fires. Most affected areas are where normal people live rather than the millionaires everyone hears about & a lot don't have insurance because a lot of the insurance companies have refused to renew policies, and some of those people had the same insurance for over 30 years & the way they were abandoned by their insurance companies after so long is outrageous. Now all they have after decades of paying for the house etc is the land value. It's sickening. 

[dleighg]

41 minutes ago, Pike Ludwell said:

I wonder if the CA fires have damaged/destroyed many of the houses or areas spotlighted in this show.

Way back when Madison concentrated on the beachfront houses along the PCH; I know that some of them burned in the Palisades fire.

[rhofmovalley]

Bravo has always been all about the DRAMA.  They could care less about the historical significance of the homes in L.A.  That's likely why the personal romantic lives of the agents were focused on more and more. Bravo thinks its viewers want Real Housewives...and they probably aren't wrong.  I don't, but apparently there's huge audience for that type of stuff.

[QQQQ]

It will be interesting (not the exact word I'm looking for, as that sounds too cold but...) to see how the fires impact the real estate market and agents on so many of the reality shows. 

[Medicine Crow]

Josh Flagg was on CNN last night talking about the long range impact, financially, to those who lost their homes.  He did well!!

[Shrek]

I saw someone (not Flagg) saying how bad it would be generally for the housing market in L.A. and that only the very rich would be able to live there in future as nobody would be able to get a mortgage after this because the insurance companies won't insure any houses and no bank would give a mortgage without insurance so only the very rich could afford to buy or build a house as they don't need to worry about a mortgage in a lot of cases.

In general California is becoming a bit of an insurance desert as a lot of insurance co's have pulled out of CA entirely citing fires, earthquakes and general natural disasters as their reasoning now that they've made their money out of people for decades. Doesn't matter if you live in a place that has never had any of these either as they're just leaving CA altogether. 

[chessiegal]

We have family in Florida that have been dealing with home insurance woes for over a decade.

[Starlight925]

Also getting permits with so many regulations that did not exist when these houses were originally built will take years, if they are granted at all.  

Which will really eat into the developers' business that Altman etc. work with so much.

Many will probably just take whatever money their insurance company gives them for the house and move elsewhere.

Altman smartly has moved on to Orange County, where it's much easier to build and is not nearly as fire-prone as L.A.

Edited January 11 by Starlight925

[QQQQ]

If there are mass deportations, I wonder where the labor is going to come from to (re)build thousands upon thousands of residential and commercial structures. Did Josh talk about that on CNN?

Edited January 12 by QQQQ

[ZettaK]

On 1/11/2025 at 11:39 AM, Shrek said:

I saw someone (not Flagg) saying how bad it would be generally for the housing market in L.A. and that only the very rich would be able to live there in future as nobody would be able to get a mortgage after this because the insurance companies won't insure any houses and no bank would give a mortgage without insurance so only the very rich could afford to buy or build a house as they don't need to worry about a mortgage in a lot of cases.

In general California is becoming a bit of an insurance desert as a lot of insurance co's have pulled out of CA entirely citing fires, earthquakes and general natural disasters as their reasoning now that they've made their money out of people for decades. Doesn't matter if you live in a place that has never had any of these either as they're just leaving CA altogether. 

Florida has the same problem, but for a longer period of time. Insurance companies dropped clients, and left the state. The rates increase every year for those who are lucky to find an insurance company. The state government didn't do anything to prevent this. I live in SE Florida.

On 1/9/2025 at 1:53 PM, Shrek said:

The places you mention are not too close to the fires. Most affected areas are where normal people live rather than the millionaires everyone hears about & a lot don't have insurance because a lot of the insurance companies have refused to renew policies, and some of those people had the same insurance for over 30 years & the way they were abandoned by their insurance companies after so long is outrageous. Now all they have after decades of paying for the house etc is the land value. It's sickening. 

Not exactly average people live in Pacific Palisades and Malibu (which are next to each other), areas that got affected by some of the fires.

Edited January 28 by ZettaK

[meep.meep]

The fires wiped out huge areas of Altadena which is not a rich haven.  Those folks are going to have a very difficult time rebuilding or finding new homes.

[CrazyInAlabama]

I saw the rerun with Tracy going to Dubai for the Royal Atlantis representation, and she apparently still represents them.   The website for the R.A. with Tracy's information on it is current. 

 

[oakville]

18 hours ago, CrazyInAlabama said:

I saw the rerun with Tracy going to Dubai for the Royal Atlantis representation, and she apparently still represents them.   The website for the R.A. with Tracy's information on it is current. 

 

I always thought it was strange that a company in Dubai would hire a real estate agent from L.A. to market properties there.

[chessiegal]

It's been a while since I saw the episode, but wasn't Tracy's hook that she could bring in high rollers from the US?

[oakville]

2 hours ago, chessiegal said:

It's been a while since I saw the episode, but wasn't Tracy's hook that she could bring in high rollers from the US?

Yes, but I am surprised anyone from Beverly Hills would want to buy a condo in Dubai.

[Shrek]

21 minutes ago, oakville said:

Yes, but I am surprised anyone from Beverly Hills would want to buy a condo in Dubai.

Why though? And why Beverly Hills specifically? 

[chessiegal]

2 hours ago, oakville said:

Yes, but I am surprised anyone from Beverly Hills would want to buy a condo in Dubai.

Status? Isn't Dubai one of the places where the cool kids hang?

A place to park your money outside the US?