Felicity Smoak: Bitch With Wifi

[Primal Slayer]

Has Diggle even changed that much? We've got to know him better but i feel like nothing drastic with him. He is the only character who never gets any flak. Oliver, Quentin, Malcolm all have their detractors.

Majority of her drama seemed to do with Oliver which some people didn't connect with, though it seems like that is with whoever Oliver is in love with and drama in sues.

If her drama was more personal geared towards her own storyline that ends up connecting to the overall story people may like it more.

[Guest]

I've seen people argue Oliver and Felicity should decide when they come back they are better as friends and Felicity should get less screentime and another LI.

I don't get it either,they obviously show she has no idea what she's doing.What is she supposed to do,not try to defend herself?It's the same thing as with flying the ATOM suit,I've had so many arguments about that and some people just can't accept that Ray did it on his first try with no practice too even though it was shown on screen.

lol IMDB isn't so bad at the moment though it does get ugly whenever Olicity stuff comes out.There are a lot of Felicity and Olicity fans there so it's not just haters.

 

The 'better as friends' conversation should have happened early in s3 if that's what they wanted to happen. They easily could have both spoken about their failed date and said that maybe being friends is better. But that's not what Oliver wanted. He wanted to be with Felicity, he simply didn't think he could. I don't see how that would possibly change now after living happily together for five months. How weird!

 

Haha, I've seen the complaints about Felicity wearing the ATOM suit, mainly that it shouldn't fit because he's taller than her (true, but I imagine that Ray made sure it could fit other people) and that she knew how to fly it instantly. But like you said, if Ray could fly it on the first try, why can't Felicity? 

 

I always laugh at that scene though. Yes, it's a little silly but it makes me smile. My mom, classic casual viewer who doesn't really think about the logistics of these things, thought it was wonderful and clapped about it. LOL. 

 

Well, you're braver than me with IMDB. I can't with the mindless hate. Most of the time I think we're watching different shows. I know some people there only watch their favorite characters scenes and nothing else which does tend to leave them with tunnel vision about the show. But each to their own I guess! I'm happy to hear there are a lot of Olicity and Felicity fans there too! :)

[tv echo]

If we have to accept that the Atom suit can shrink both itself and its human inhabitant (using just tech and not magic), then it's far more believable that the suit can adapt to fit a smaller person.

[dtissagirl]

Felicity's flight in the ATOM suit -- in yet another episode in which Greg Berlanti gets story credit, btw -- is also another piece of the symbolism puzzle that they've been building with Felicity, and her role in Oliver's narrative, since 201. Oliver fell off a cliff mid-season alone because he chose to do everything alone, this time around, Felicity is there ~to catch him when he falls~.

 

I love it, but then again, I'm a sucker for the use symbolism in hero's journey stories. I think it's a narrative artifice that fits the genre well. Because not only they fit into the idea that you have to show instead of tell, but because it it gives ~meaning~ to things in an inherently silly environment otherwise. Like, you know, a story about grown up people wearing colored leather and using medieval weapons to fight modern urban warfare. So the fact that Arrow gives deeper meaning to the mask, and the hood, and Felicity, within Oliver's hero evolution, well, it pleases me.

[Primal Slayer]

I just found the whole ATOM suit thing to such an easy cop-out that didn't seem to be anything more then a cute moment. But the finale in general was a major let down for me in just about every aspect.

[hogwash]

I didn't realize the ATOM suit was a big controversy (4+ months later and people are still outraged) until I was going through reviews for the finale. I was more pissed that freaking Oliver Queen killed Ra's al Ghul (4+ months later and I'm still outraged about that. You can't even suss out an OK explanation for it like Felicity helping building the ATOM and the show's "one uniform fits all" policy. It was TOTAL BS!) But whatever. The finale was utterly stupid but I loved her saving Oliver in the ATOM suit. It was literally the only good use of that tin waste of time/storyline all season. That moment when she freaking swoops in and saves him from THE FALL (a little on the nose there, Arrow...) and he's grr/huffy and avoiding eye contact until the last possible second because he thinks it's Creepy Palmer saving him was so disgustingly great. Then he actually looks up sees her freaking adorable face in that utterly stupid suit. UGh! I loved it. It wasn't enough to make me forget what freaking stupid episode (season...) I was watching but it was pretty close. Like Cisco/Wells at the end of Out of Time close (who decided to rehash the weird and unnecessary Laurel/Tommy/Oliver/Helena double date for an entire episode of Flash???). 

Edited September 25, 2015 by hogwash

[statsgirl]

I'd like to think that Felicity wearing the ATOM suit to save Oliver was a meta statement on the use of costumes on the show and the magical powers they seem to bestow on those wearing them.  And maybe it is for Berlanti. For Guggenheim and Kreisberg, not so much.

[Guest]

Felicity's flight in the ATOM suit -- in yet another episode in which Greg Berlanti gets story credit, btw -- is also another piece of the symbolism puzzle that they've been building with Felicity, and her role in Oliver's narrative, since 201. Oliver fell off a cliff mid-season alone because he chose to do everything alone, this time around, Felicity is there ~to catch him when he falls~.

 

I love it, but then again, I'm a sucker for the use symbolism in hero's journey stories. I think it's a narrative artifice that fits the genre well. Because not only they fit into the idea that you have to show instead of tell, but because it it gives ~meaning~ to things in an inherently silly environment otherwise. Like, you know, a story about grown up people wearing colored leather and using medieval weapons to fight modern urban warfare. So the fact that Arrow gives deeper meaning to the mask, and the hood, and Felicity, within Oliver's hero evolution, well, it pleases me.

 

GASP. You beautiful tropical fish, I never thought of it that way. I'm digging it even more now. I love me some symbolism. 

 

The finale was utterly stupid but I loved her saving Oliver in the ATOM suit. It was literally the only good use of that tin waste of time/storyline all season. That moment when she freaking swoops in and saves him from THE FALL (a little on the nose there, Arrow...) and he's grr/huffy and avoiding eye contact until the last possible second because he thinks it's Creepy Palmer saving him was so disgustingly great. Then he actually looks up sees her freaking adorable face in that utterly stupid suit. UGh! I loved it.

 

Her face was adorable. Her cute little lip bite did me in. Haha.

Edited September 25, 2015 by Guest

[lemotomato]

The outrage over Felicity wearing the ATOM suit came across to me as "Ewww!! No stupid girl cooties allowed in our cool robot toy". Also, Felicity as the only non-frontline fighter showing up to rescue the hero probably bothered those who see her as nothing but the team's resident nerd.

I loved the rescue and the moment afterwards. In an episode where the deadly virus they're supposed to stop is blood borne AND airborne at the same time, the logic of how the suit fit and operated didn't bother me in the slightest.

[Guest]

The outrage over Felicity wearing the ATOM suit came across to me as "Ewww!! No stupid girl cooties allowed in our cool robot toy". Also, Felicity as the only non-frontline fighter showing up to rescue the hero probably bothered those who see her as nothing but the team's resident nerd.

I loved the rescue and the moment afterwards. In an episode where the deadly virus they're supposed to stop is blood borne AND airborne at the same time, the logic of how the suit fit and operated didn't bother me in the slightest.

 

Haha. I agree. It was also because Felicity seemingly, according to some, didn't care about saving the city and was happy to let everyone die just so she could save Oliver. That complaint is always thrown around along with the problems with her wearing the suit. Not sure how they reach that conclusion considering she had already done all she could and found the locations of the virus but whatever. *shrugs*

[lemotomato]

Haha. I agree. It was also because Felicity seemingly, according to some, didn't care about saving the city and was happy to let everyone die just so she could save Oliver. That complaint is always thrown around along with the problems with her wearing the suit. Not sure how they reach that conclusion considering she had already done all she could and found the locations of the virus but whatever. *shrugs*

Yeah, I don't get that either. She instinctively turned to the only other person in the room-- Ray-- and asked him to save Oliver, he said no. She went and did it herself. It's not like she forced Ray to stop working or turned off the computers or took the nanites out of his hands. 

[statsgirl]

And when you compare it to Barry, who was willing to let his whole city be destroyed so he could go back in time and save his mother....

[lemotomato]

Well, Barry is a dude AND a costumed hero, so it's OK if he makes selfish decisions based on emotions. /comic fanboy logic

Edited September 26, 2015 by lemotomato

[AyChihuahua]

And when you compare it to Barry, who was willing to let his whole city be destroyed so he could go back in time and save his mother....

Solar system. At least.

[kismet]

Yeah, I don't get that either. She instinctively turned to the only other person in the room-- Ray-- and asked him to save Oliver, he said no. She went and did it herself. It's not like she forced Ray to stop working or turned off the computers or took the nanites out of his hands.

The other option was to let OQ fall & die. I guess that is preferable to some people. Her using the suit was the most practical thing to do. Nevermind ray was needed to do his computer nanite thing so even if he wanted to save OQ he was needed in PT. But whatever. If OQ can kill Ras by sliding a sword under his shoulder, I can believe that FS can fly the suit enough to save OQ.

[Guest]

And when you compare it to Barry, who was willing to let his whole city be destroyed so he could go back in time and save his mother....

 

I don't think I'll ever understand that. They're constantly crapping on Oliver over on The Flash too but Barry was more than happy to sacrifice everyone to save his mom. I'm just...

 

 

The other option was to let OQ fall & die. I guess that is preferable to some people. Her using the suit was the most practical thing to do. Nevermind ray was needed to do his computer nanite thing so even if he wanted to save OQ he was needed in PT. But whatever. If OQ can kill Ras by sliding a sword under his shoulder, I can believe that FS can fly the suit enough to save OQ.

 

 

There seems to be a scale of believability. Like it's totally fine that Oliver survived a massive stab wound and internal bleeding and a huge drop off a cliff by drinking some magical penicillin tea. It's also fine that Laurel can effortlessly jump out of a window onto a helicopter after a few boxing lessons. It's totally acceptable for Thea to be mind raped and convinced to kill someone. But Felicity flying the ATOM suit is like WOAH NO THAT WOULD NEVER HAPPEN. PREPOSTEROUS! THEY INSULT MY INTELLIGENCE!

Edited September 26, 2015 by Guest

[kismet]

If it makes people feel better, she didn't know how to take it off :)

[Primal Slayer]

Boxing lessons doesn't teach someone how to jump out of windows and I am pretty sure a lot of people thought Thea being the killer was kind of lame. Not to mention that I didn't see anyone praising them for how Oliver survived his fight with Ra's. 

[lemotomato]

Yeah, but I don't see people bringing that stuff up as reasons those characters were "ruined" and should be killed off.

[Guest]

Boxing lessons doesn't teach someone how to jump out of windows and I am pretty sure a lot of people thought Thea being the killer was kind of lame. Not to mention that I didn't see anyone praising them for how Oliver survived his fight with Ra's. 

 

The boxing was simply an example. Not sure how else I would phrase Laurel's training tbh. The point is we were supposed to believe she could do that (jumping out of a window and onto a helicopter) and just accept it. That's why I used it as an example. 

Yeah, but I don't see people bringing that stuff up as reasons those characters were "ruined" and should be killed off.

 

This. Yeah, this is basically what I meant. I don't for one second believe that everyone liked all those examples I gave. 

Edited September 26, 2015 by Guest

[MuuMuuChainsmoker]

A reminder from the Laurel topic that applies equally for other Arrow threads. Please discuss your feelings and opinions about Arrow characters. Do not argue/nitpick/speculate on other people's opinions about Arrow characters or their actions.

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Discussion about fans leads to tears and nobody wants that.

[dtissagirl]

For any other home decór lovers out there [HI.], the Arrow Fashion Blog posted an article what's what on Felicity's place from 305:

 

http://arrowfashionblog.com/2015/09/29/breakdown-of-felicitys-home/

[Guest]

Haha. I can't believe someone went to so much trouble to track all that stuff down! Dedication.

 

I liked Felicity's apartment though. Shame we won't get to see it again. And I really want to know when she got that Robin Hood poster, especially as she said archery looked ridiculous back in early s1. LOL.

[kismet]

ME TOO! I also really want to know when FS's interest in archery & Robin Hood started. I feel like the Robin Hood thing might have gone back to her Hacktivist days, since it seemed to be a little Robin Hooding what they proposed. I think her archery comment was a little meta on the times s1 premiered it was in the modern heydays of Archery with Hunger Games and other pop-culture archery stuff. Even Nerf heavily marketed bows & arrows that Christmas.

 

But like I have always said, in my little headspace canon (wish I hope will come true) - FS has always been a secret Archer, even as a hobby. Or at least she has always been an Archery Aficionado (& now always will be). I feel like she showed a lot of knowledge & comfort level around bows/arrows despite her fear of pointy things when she first encountered them in her office & the foundry. She also knew how to build a pretty sweet ass custom Bow for OQ from scratch that was "perfect". There is something there, or maybe its my overactive imagination.

[Guest]

ME TOO! I also really want to know when FS's interest in archery & Robin Hood started. I feel like the Robin Hood thing might have gone back to her Hacktivist days, since it seemed to be a little Robin Hooding what they proposed. I think her archery comment was a little meta on the times s1 premiered it was in the modern heydays of Archery with Hunger Games and other pop-culture archery stuff. Even Nerf heavily marketed bows & arrows that Christmas.

 

But like I have always said, in my little headspace canon (wish I hope will come true) - FS has always been a secret Archer, even as a hobby. Or at least she has always been an Archery Aficionado (& now always will be). I feel like she showed a lot of knowledge & comfort level around bows/arrows despite her fear of pointy things when she first encountered them in her office & the foundry. She also knew how to build a pretty sweet ass custom Bow for OQ from scratch that was "perfect". There is something there, or maybe its my overactive imagination.

 

I kind of hope she's not good at archery! We'll hear nothing but cries of Mary Sue again. Haha.

 

I do like that she maybe took an interest in it though, once she found out Oliver's secret. Maybe she watched Robin Hood as a little joke to herself, knowing what she was a part of at night. 

 

And I think her custom building the bow just showed how well she can research these things and how in tune she is with Oliver - that she probably listened to what kind of bow he preferred and all of that. 

[kismet]

I see your concerns, this fandom can be relentless. She could like to do archery as a hobby (maybe when she was younger, since she really has no free time now) and just really sucked at it. I did it a couple times and was not great at it, but it was so much fun. And you could be right, she really could have just extensively researched the bow. It's my little headspace canon, so I'm not gonna impose on it anyone, but it will run wild in my head & heart.

 

I don't need or want her to be good at everything she does. I'm ecstatic that she is bad at cooking.

 

But I feel like I need an answer to the Robin Hood question, was it before or after meeting OQ? And how did it start? That to me seems like an easy & appropriate topic to work into a cuddling/canoodling session.

Edited September 29, 2015 by kismet

[Guest]

Yep. That's one of my concerns. I'm tired of this fandom tbh but the less said about that the better! 

 

And I am all for head canons! I have plenty. Head canon until your heart is content! :)

 

Yeah, I'd love to know the Robin Hood thing. I feel like they missed their chance for a cute moment between O/F about it. Like if he picked her up for a date or something and noticed the poster and thought it was funny and then asked her about it and she was all embarrassed. I would have loved that! Sigh. 

[kismet]

Maybe it can happen when they are unpacking the boxes for their new place. That's a really couplely thing to do. Ask the background of the item, where it came from - what's it all about. Before the they decide if it goes in the hang box, the keep box, the exclusively his/her box (aka never seen again outside of a potential man/lady cave) or the trash box.

[Guest]

Maybe it can happen when they are unpacking the boxes for their new place. That's a really couplely thing to do. Ask the background of the item, where it came from - what's it all about. Before the they decide if it goes in the hang box, the keep box, the exclusively his/her box (aka never seen again outside of a potential man/lady cave) or the trash box.

 

I'd love that to happen but I doubt we'll see anything like that. Maybe just a brief talk about moving in with Thea and that's it? It's kind of crappy actually. They've already made a home together and now it feels like they're going backwards slightly. Ah well. 

 

If we later saw the poster in their bedroom at some point - awesome.

[kismet]

I might be too distracted for reasons if they put it in the bedroom ;) Perhaps another less busy room, like the living room.

[Guest]

Haha. That's true. Deal. Living room it is. Above the fireplace? LOL. 

[Primal Slayer]

Felicity is smoking rich, can't see a big reason for her and Oliver to live with Thea for to long. Unless they want to keep an eye out on Thea.

[Guest]

Felicity is smoking rich, can't see a big reason for her and Oliver to live with Thea for to long. Unless they want to keep an eye out on Thea.

 

I agree. I think they're going to move in with Thea mainly because she's a little cray cray. And also it's probably cheaper for them not to have to build another set. Shame but understandable. 

[tarotx]

Plus The show has Oliver treat Thea like his daughter instead of his sister. And Malcolm like he's Oliver's father so Thea's evil grandfather. So yeah the show isn't going to think it's weird that a deeply in love Oliver wants him and Felicity to live with Thea.

 

I agree. I think they're going to move in with Thea mainly because she's a little cray cray. And also it's probably cheaper for them not to have to build another set. Shame but understandable. 

[Guest]

Plus The show has Oliver treat Thea like his daughter instead of his sister. And Malcolm like he's Oliver's father so Thea's evil grandfather. So yeah the show isn't going to think it's weird that a deeply in love Oliver wants him and Felicity to live with Thea.

 

LMAO. I think he's just overly protective because their parents are dead and it's just them. But I agree, I think it's weird for a 30 year old man in a committed relationship to move back in with his sister, especially when Felicity actually had her own place that they could use.

 

But I definitely accept the reasons while Thea maybe needs some support. 

[kismet]

I feel like they are going to have their own place. It's just gonna look A LOT like Thea's place. And when I say a lot, I mean they are going to simply reuse Thea's place and claim to have purchased a similar loft in the same building. Which would be the best compromise, close to Thea but separate quarters. It's totally a budget thing at this point for the show. I feel like Thea will be displaced from having a place to live just like LL was in 3 when her apt was re-purposed.

[Guest]

I said a while back that they could just be renting an apartment in Thea's building. So it looks the same and is actually the same set but their own place. It's possible. 

 

But right now I'm going with them living with Thea for a while.

[wonderwall]

I find it reprehensible that this thread has been woefully forgotten. When we talk more about characters we don't like more than characters we do, then I find that to be a problem. So I wanna revive it :p 

 

First, look at this character growth!

 

 

 

I love how she's more confident in herself, knows what she wants in life, and doesn't want to be that hermit she was before. Felicity is stronger now, more driven, she knows what she wants and she gets it... She's just such a fantastic female character :')

 

I really do hope this is both Felicity and Diggle's year.

[Guest]

Yasssss! 

 

I was actually watching a few Olicity clips from s1 the other day (Bless Olicity Queen on youtube!) and I noticed a difference in Felicity especially. She does seem more confident now, in herself and her abilities. I always remember that meek little fist bump of the air she does sometime in s1 when she hacked into something and now she's jumping out of her seat and dropping all the mics and it's awesome! 

[calliope1975]

As many problems that I have with Arrow, and while I still want more info on FS, I'm actually pretty pleased with her character arc so far. I think she's come into her own over the past three years, and I eagerly anticipate watching where she goes next. 

[wonderwall]

I'm pleased with her arc too. I know I can sometimes seem restless to get more Felicity, but I'm happy that they're developing her slowly. She didn't grow over the course of 5 episodes, she grew over the course of 4 seasons which IMO is perfect pacing. Was the writing always perfect? Of course not, but I like to think that because the writers are developing Felicity slowly, that there's still a lot of story left to tell. 

 

I think the writer's interests in Felicity's growth shows that they WANT to see her grow and be things they never imagined in S1. I for one can't wait to see her story unfold

[Guest]

It's no secret that I had some issues with Felicity in s3, particularly Pod! Felicity, but I do think she came into her own. I can't deny that. 

 

And now that I've rewatched some early scenes (I actually haven't done a full series rewatch yet) you can really see a difference. Just in confidence, how she holds herself. Even her voice? I don't know, there's an assuredness there now, I think. 

 

And of course I want to know more about her. She's still a bit of a mystery. I love that we're getting to see a different side of Oliver through his relationship with Felicity but I'd also like to learn more about Felicity from it too. I think we will, which is even more exciting.

[kismet]

S3 FS had some major writing flaws. But I do like how they have slowly grown her character. It's felt very organic and authentic to who she is now. There are certain things I still do not understand about her character and I look forward to understanding more about her. Even when she is pissing me off, I still want more from her. It's a testament to the fact that I think she is a great character but unfortunately the writers sometimes overuse her for plot purposes. I feel like s4, will be better for her because they seem to be building the plot around her and not making her prop an entire arc unrelated to her.

 

Plus on a superficial note - the wardrobe and hair/make-up department has really upped their game this season. She has a pretty enviable wardrobe in s4 and that could not have been said for s1 & s3, at least for me.

[Guest]

S3 FS had some major writing flaws. But I do like how they have slowly grown her character. It's felt very organic and authentic to who she is now. There are certain things I still do not understand about her character and I look forward to understanding more about her. Even when she is pissing me off, I still want more from her. It's a testament to the fact that I think she is a great character but unfortunately the writers sometimes overuse her for plot purposes. I feel like s4, will be better for her because they seem to be building the plot around her and not making her prop an entire arc unrelated to her.

 

Do you mean like how she was used to prop others? Like Ray?

 

 

Plus on a superficial note - the wardrobe and hair/make-up department has really upped their game this season. She has a pretty enviable wardrobe in s4 and that could not have been said for s1 & s3, at least for me.

 

 

I didn't really like her s1 style but it seemed fitting for someone who worked on computers all day, tucked away in the IT department. Her s2 wardrobe was awesome and I liked some of the things she wore in s3, although I admit I think they failed styling her hair sometimes, especially over on The Flash. Yikes!

 

I actually liked when they said we'll see Felicity dressed down sometimes, now that we're seeing her living with Oliver. I adore her fierce style and high heels but sometimes I just want to see her rock a pair of jeans again. 

[quarks]

It's no secret that my least favorite part of "Sara" last season had nothing to do with Laurel (yes!) and everything to do with Felicity's "I want so much more from life than this!" bit when, just a few episodes earlier towards the end of season two, she'd been telling Oliver that he'd shown her that she could be so much more than an IT girl. So to see her going back to an office environment so she could get that more, when she hadn't found that more there in the first place, even if she was continuing to work with Team Arrow, was disheartening. Especially since it seemed mostly done so that the show didn't have to give up that QC set. Which - since it could have been transformed into Ray's office, and then was transformed into Ray's apartment and then into Palmer Labs/the sorta new Team Arrow lair, felt really unnecessary.

 

Which is to say, having Felicity say in this latest episode that she loved superheroing and helping people - Yes and YAY and Yes. And YAY.  

[kismet]

S1 wardrobe was appropriate, but boring. And I wear scrubs all day, so I know boring. I did like her hair & make-up s1 though, it felt natural.

 

S2 wardrobe had a good blend of professional & quirky. It also had just enough sexy to it. Before they revealed s4, I thought it was her best season for wardrobe.

 

S3 was really a dud for me. Her wardrobe was primarily ill-fitting and although some of the pieces were memorable & nice, most of it I just did not think was a right fit for her or the situation. Although she did have some nice jackets in s3. I can say nothing nice about her hair in s3, so I will have to be polite and say nothing.

 

s4- looks Amazing!! I really do look fwd to seeing her dress down, dress up, and is all various types of dressing that comes with her now very intertwined life with OQ. ;) I really like her hair & make-up too - it's natural & professional, yet still feels like Felicity.

[statsgirl]

I thought her season 1 wardrobe was perfect for the "sexy librarian" look.

 

Some of her wardrobe s3 and 4 I like (e.g. the sundress at brunch, the blue top in the Bali fight scene) but others look off to me.  The super tight dresses with high heels (e.g. the orange one).  EBR doesn't look comfortable in high heels, unlike Stana Katic, so when she's in a tight dress and high heels, it makes me think of women with bound feet.  (Ironically Stana Katic has been told by her podiatrist to stop wearing the really high heels because they're bad for her feet.)  The white skirt in 4x01, while good in theory, made her look (impossible, I know) overweight.

 

I like Felicity's clothes when they're attractive and comfortable, like Thea's, but not when they go Fashion over Sense.  When I saw the pants and jacket in 3x22, I had such a feeling of relief.

 

 

It's no secret that my least favorite part of "Sara" last season had nothing to do with Laurel (yes!) and everything to do with Felicity's "I want so much more from life than this!" bit when, just a few episodes earlier towards the end of season two, she'd been telling Oliver that he'd shown her that she could be so much more than an IT girl. So to see her going back to an office environment so she could get that more, when she hadn't found that more there in the first place, even if she was continuing to work with Team Arrow, was disheartening.

When she said she wanted "much more from life", I took it to mean that she wanted more than hanging around the Arrow cave 24/7 waiting for it to be Oliver on that cold metal table, since she'd already quit her Tech Village job.

 

I didn't see it as regressing but rather acknowledging that Oliver was making a bad choice and she didn't want to lemming-follow him over the cliff.  IT girl, EA, whatever job Ray had in mind for her, it was better than doing nothing more than standing around waiting for her Team to die.

[Guest]

I actually loved Felicity in that white skirt. I don't think there's anything that could make her look overweight, IMO. But I admit I thought it was the wrong outfit to travel in. Save that kind of thing for the office please!

 

So yeah. I do want her to dress down more. 

Edited October 14, 2015 by Guest

[EmilyBettFan]

Felicity wasn't talking about not wanting to stop working with Oliver. She wanted Oliver to stop acting all doom and gloom.

[statsgirl]

I inherited a skirt just like that from my mother and just this morning as I was doing the twice annual summer/winter clothes exchange, I thought I should give it away.  But now I'm having second thoughts.