Felicity Smoak: Bitch With Wifi

[Starfish35]

I just think the high flippy ponytail makes her look too damn young. I don't think it would be an issue for me if EBR was older. *shrug* I know it's an unpopular opinion, and the ponytail has become a Felicity "thing", but I'm ready for it to be gone.

I'll show myself out. ;)

ETA: a bun or something like that might look cute and professional though.

Edited July 24, 2015 by Starfish35

[tv echo]

It's cool that people have different opinions about Felicity's hairstyle.

 

I guess I don't mind that she looks so young.  Better that than looking too old to wear a ponytail or two little pigtails (imo) - something that bugs me about Abby on NCIS.

Edited July 24, 2015 by tv echo

[Chaser]

A variation of the ponytal would be great. Emily rocked a side braid at one of the upfronts and its still one of my favorite looks from her. I think something like that would be a great way to maintain a "Felicity" look but at the same time allowing her style to evolve with her.

[EmilyBettFan]

I think they should do a braid also to the side. That would look so good on her. I think though they'd have to add a little bit of an extension.

[Guest]

I like the ponytail. I like that EBR apparently fought to keep it because I agree that when Felicity is working she'd want to keep her hair out of her face. But I actually prefer the ponytail when it's longer, like in s2, and not so high on her head. I don't really like this short version very much. Not sure why. And I really wish they'd start embracing EBR's naturally curly hair. I like the waves.

 

But I do think they should mix it up sometimes. And please never ever give her the hairstyle she wore on The Flash last season, when she crossed over with Ray. She looked ridiculous and it aged her so much.

[EmilyBettFan]

I really loved her ponytail in The Scientist episode with the red boob dress.

[statsgirl]

I want them to keep the ponytail for most of the time because that's who Felicity is.  The glasses and ponytail are her costume and while I'm glad she growing up as a character.

 

Now that Starling City is overrun with heros and masks, in spite of a nasty question to EBR at SDCC 2015 suggesting that Felicity is the only one who isn't a hero, I'd like to make the case that after Oliver, who is the star of the show, the most important hero is Felicity because she's the one we the audience can most identify with and who can inspire up to become heroes ourselves.

 

In truth, few of us are going to take boxing lessons and don black leather and go out and beat up bad guys; we won't do parkour or join a bunch as ninja assassins.  Most of us haven't done tours of duty and know how to be deadly with a Glock.  But even without the mad hacking skills that Felicity has, we can start petitions that make a difference like the woman who saw a CEO abusing a dog on an elevator and got his company to deal with him, or the middle schools kids who took a petition to the premier and got verbal consent put into the Ontario sex ed curriculum, or the kids and parents who get market gardens started in their schools and major recycling. 

 

Felicity doesn't thinks she's special, or that she has the skills of Sara or even Roy, and she's afraid of heights, kangaroos and various other things, but she goes out determined to make a change and does what she can. She doesn't need a mask and costume or fighting skills to make a difference.

 

Felicity is the most relateable character on Team Arrow, and because she is, she's the one who can most inspire us to be heroes in whatever way we can in our own lives

[wingster55]

Both Grant Gustin and Emiliy Bett Rickards are not CW pretty.

 

This is super old...but on the case of EBR...not sure how she isn't "CW" pretty or conventionally so.

Blonde hair alone makes it so.

[wonderwall]

This is super old...but on the case of EBR...not sure how she isn't "CW" pretty or conventionally so.

Blonde hair alone makes it so.

Having blonde hair doesn't make someone 'conventionally attractive'. I've seen plenty of blonde unconventionally attractive people. 

 

At least for me, I know EBR isn't conventionally attractive because for the longest time I didn't know how to place her. I didn't know whether she was attractive or not. I, of course, now think she's gorgeous but in a more unconventional way. EBR doesn't have the features for being conventionally attractive, she's a bit on the shorter side, she's not super skinny, she has a button nose that's a little turned up, she doesn't have defining cheekbones....

 

I definitely don't think she's conventional looking and there's nothing wrong with that. Just like how there's nothing wrong with being conventionally beautiful like Candice or KC. 

[wingster55]

She's pretty much the same height as KC. I think her face (or anyone's face) is what makes them pretty.

I just remain baffled how this: 

 

isn't conventionally or CW hot. In terms of the CW I'd say that she certainly is more their type than Candice Patton or Gina Rodriguez because...well white.

I mean I can provide more examples...I don't mind doing this research. Really

Edited August 2, 2015 by wingster55

[wonderwall]

Well I don't think she is? She's cute and beautiful, but I wouldn't call her sexy or hot. CW tends to go for sexy and hot. 

 

But I maintain that EBR isn't a conventional sort of beauty because of how I questioned whether she was pretty or not in the first place. IMO someone is conventionally pretty when you can off the bat tell they're pretty. Unconventional beauty, for me, is when I have more difficulty telling whether someone is pretty or not. But that's just me. 

 

And I'm definitely not going to bring race into this conversation because it's so not worth it. Because by saying CW hot = white person makes the CW/casting people seem racist when it's probably not true. 

[wingster55]

Ok..I mean I agree but I could see her hotness right away.

 

It's not that the CW casting people are racist...but there's still a stigma against people of color ..can't see how that can be ignored (but yes...neither here or there)

[JenMcSnark]

I have to say, that to me Emily is "girl-next-door" pretty which is not something I equate with CW. Although I thought she was pretty from the get-go, she has grown on me to the point where I think she is gorgeous! 

 

Definitely, speaking as a blonde, having blonde hair does not make one conventionally beautiful.  That doesn't even correlate.  There are plenty of average looking or "cute" blondes. 

[BkWurm1]

I have to say, that to me Emily is "girl-next-door" pretty which is not something I equate with CW. Although I thought she was pretty from the get-go, she has grown on me to the point where I think she is gorgeous!

 

Yeah, I'd put her closer to normal pretty than GLAM!! or Hollywood pretty but then I frequently don't find the Hollywood model type all that attractive.  Except for the undeniable drop dead gorgeous actresses and actors, I find the typical beauty celebrated as kind of conformist and bland.   

 

Of course as my friend always points out to me I am incapable of finding someone attractive (baring the near perfect examples) unless I like their personality. 

[Starfish35]

I guess I've always thought that EBR was a classical beauty, especially with her hair down.

This is one of my favorite shots.

[BkWurm1]

Lovely image!

[kismet]

I think girl-next-door is a good way to describe EBR. She is very beautiful. But she is not supermodel sexy which is what the CW is accused of casting. However, after watching many years of the CW & the WB, I will say that I never thought that reputation was not accurate. As a network, they do cast very attractive actors, but they have always had a range from boy/girl-next-door to uber-sexy. A lot of it I think depends on the show and the showrunners. Some shows over the years seem to cast for acting talent, while others cast for aesthetic appeal. Arrow seems to be a show that casts for talent first & attractiveness is only part of the equation.

 

But there was a definite difference in how EBR was costumed, as well as with hair & make-up from s1 to s2 thru to the present. When they started to positioning her as a possible LI, they definitely amped her appearance to be less mousey (for lack of a better word) and more of a visual presence on the show. That all being said, EBR is beautiful, so regardless of what category she may fall in, she was never not attractive or not beautiful.

[EmilyBettFan]

I find EBR really gorgeous. She is a bombshell to me.

[tarotx]

EBR is CW pretty. Girl is stunning. Felicity didn't project that but that was Character not actress.

Edited August 2, 2015 by tarotx

[jay741982]

I find EBR as well as Felicity sexy as hell. She's a bombshell

Edited August 5, 2015 by jay741982

[tv echo]

One thing that differentiates EBR from a lot of CW actresses - actually, from young Hollywood actresses in general - is that she doesn't have a "lollipop" figure - you know, when the actress is so skinny that her head looks big by comparison to her size 0 body (like a lollipop).  The poster person for this was Callista Flockhart as Ally McBeal.  Just Google "lollipop head" - it's a real thing.

 

CL also doesn't have a lollipop figure.  On the CW network, actresses who are closer to the lollipop look are KC, WH, CP, DP and ND.  It's not just young Hollywood.  A few years ago, Demi Moore was dangerously thin and had very much a lollipop figure.  It's not necessarily unhealthy, I believe, if your body type tends toward that look.  But it can be.

 

ETA: I think all of the actresses on all of the CW shows are extremely attractive.

Edited August 4, 2015 by tv echo

[EmeraldArcher]

I love Felicity and EBR, but I've always felt there was incongruity between Felicity's level of attractiveness and Oliver's. Even when she's dressed to impress--like for her date with Oliver in 3x01--I didn't think she was convincingly beautiful on a superficial level to attract an obviously "hot" guy like Oliver. I feel like I shouldn't even be jumping into this conversation though because it makes me uncomfortable to suggest that a person's appeal as a romantic partner is diminished if he or she falls lower on some subjective scale.

However, all the times that I (or Oliver) was supposed to find Felicity sexy, I didn't. Examples include her entrance in the gold dress at the art auction in "The Dodger," her being dressed in cocktail dresses for her undercover assignment at the casino and for her dinner dates with Ray and Oliver, her wearing any of her boob dresses, her wearing a sports bra and punching a bag in the lair, or even during her sex scene in Nanda Parbat. A few of the times I really found her attractive occurred in S2, such as when she was wearing the polka dot blouse during the infamous "Someone I really care about" speech and the other polka dot blouse with cobalt earrings when she's focused on saving Oliver in "Three Ghosts"--but I think I was attracted to her intensity in both those scenes.

Even though I think there is a disparity of attractiveness between Felicity and Oliver that I didn't see between him and Helena or McKenna, I LOVE that despite the show's attempt to convey Felicity's overt sexiness/physical beauty, Oliver and the rest of us love her for her other wonderful qualities.

I might just have a weird sense of what constitutes attractive though, because I never thought LL deserved to be called "Gorgeous Laurel." I just don't find her to be pretty at all, and her looks have never been elevated by the type of sparkle that can transform a pretty girl like Felicity into a beauty.

[Ceylon5]

I love Felicity and EBR, but I've always felt there was incongruity between Felicity's level of attractiveness and Oliver's.

 

I don't have this problem because I don't think Oliver is that hot.  In the right circumstances he's very nice looking, but I don't think he's at all good looking when he's completely clean shaven or has the wrong haircut, so he doesn't fall into my super-hot guy category.  On the pretty scale, for me, Felicity is either on a par with or ahead of Oliver.  However, I often don't like Felicity's clothes.  I'm not actually at all interested in clothes, but once upon a time I watched a very entertaining show called Trinny and Susannah [ETA: sorry, it's actually called What Not to Wear], and their motto was to dress for your body type, which I don't think the wardrobe department has done with Felicity for most of her regular work clothes over the last 2 seasons.  I think Emily's personal casual style works much better for her than those short skirts, so I wish they'd let her wear jeans sometimes when she's doing Arrow stuff.  Without high heels!  When they dress her up (the date, etc.), though, I think she usually looks really good.

 

I have to say that the "glamming up" of lead actresses in shows from the second season on seems to be a general problem.  It annoyed me when they did it to Lisbon on The Mentalist and when they did it to Beckett on Castle.  They're cops, they don't need to look like models!  Likewise, let Felicity just be a regular person sometimes - it makes no sense for her to wear high heels in the Arrow Cave in the middle of the night.  It also doesn't make sense that she would have just suddenly abandoned all the more low-key clothes she wore in S1.

Edited August 4, 2015 by Ceylon5

[Nagevs]

I don't have this problem because I don't think Oliver is that hot.  In the right circumstances he's very nice looking, but I don't think he's at all good looking when he's completely clean shaven or has the wrong haircut, so he doesn't fall into my super-hot guy category.  On the pretty scale, for me, Felicity is either on a par with or ahead of Oliver. 

 

This is how I feel, and I too have seen SA clean shaven and with longer hair. I actually think EBR would look stunning as a brunette which I think is her natural hair colour?

 

For me John Barrowman is the really good looking guy on Arrow.

[Morrigan2575]

So glad I'm not the only one who doesn't think SA/Oliver is all that.  I think SA/Oliver and EBR/Felicity are equal in looks and i do think girl/boy next door is a good description.

 I point to this image as the first time I was like man EBR is a baby and such a cute girl next door look to her

 

 

 I was actually shocked at how beautiful EBR looked in this pic from SDDC 2015.  Especially since it's a candid pic, not touched up (as far as I know)

 

Edited August 4, 2015 by Morrigan2575

[apinknightmare]

The coloring is definitely touched up, but it is a really pretty pic anyway. 

 

Felicity was a little too bookish looking IMO in S1, but I liked her early S2 look a lot - the boob window dresses and such aren't really my thing. It made sense to me that she'd change her wardrobe when she started working as Oliver's assistant - being a little dressed down seems to be typical of IT people, since they have to climb behind computer towers and under desks a lot. 

 

I don't think Oliver/SA is ungodly, unfairly hot. He's the kind of guy who needs things to be just so to reach peak hotness, IMO. He needs the right length hair, and facial stubble - anything else and he kind of looks like a douche, haha.

[Morrigan2575]

There's an original version of that without the color touch up and I'm trying to find it because it's a better example

Edited the previous post with the untouched up pic, which i actually think looks better. If anyone can find a clearer version of that pic let me know, it's really pretty.

Edited August 4, 2015 by Morrigan2575

[steeledwithakiss]

I totally agree they don't usually dress EBR for her body type. She doesn't have boobs, nor does she have a clear defined waist, her arms are not very thin (not big either, but a lot of girls with no boobs have very thin arms) but she has a booty and big thighs. The boob dress doesn't work for her at all, not only because of the opening on her non existent breasts but especially for the cut of the dress. She looks better in more tight dresses. I think the dresses that looked really good on her were the blue one in 2x01 (because of the long tight sleeves) and also some of the things she wore in 2x10 or the dress she had for her date with Oliver. I think she needs something to define her waist so everytime she wears a belt (like during the "you're my partner" scene) or dresses that have that 50's vibe totally work for her (the date dress, the golden dress in 3x10). The boob dress or the orange dress she had on 3x02 ("I want more from life than this") just ain't for her at all. Putting her in pants is usually a hit or miss. For example in the Fallen it didn't work maybe because of the top or because of the heels, but she looked good in pants in 3x22 because of the more casual look and the jacket she had on.

[EmeraldArcher]

In show, I definitely think that OQ is supposed to be considered insanely hot, judging by female characters' reactions to him--Felicity and Iris (during the crossover) certainly verbalized their instant, obvious crushes on him based on his looks, not his money or reputation.

Felicity never immediately inspired admiration based on her looks--her value always came from her other qualities. I don't recall her ever being described as beautiful in the same way that Helena, McKenna, Isabel, and Laurel were by other characters (usually Felicity). I know that she's become superhero catnip, but they have never been instantly transfixed by her beauty.

Isn't that why Oliver and Felicity are endearing? He's the handsome quarterback and she's the cute girl next door? If she was just another Gorgeous Laurel or Leggy-Supermodel Isabel, Oliver's love for her wouldn't elevate his character so much above who he has been, even post island.

[statsgirl]

ITA that the boob dresses do nothing for EBR.  I like Willa Holland in crop tops because it's Thea-like but EBR in boob dresses looks like she's being dressed by someone who has been reading fashion magazines rather than someone who is dressing her to have her look as good as she can.

At least for me, I know EBR isn't conventionally attractive because for the longest time I didn't know how to place her. I didn't know whether she was attractive or not. I, of course, now think she's gorgeous but in a more unconventional way. EBR doesn't have the features for being conventionally attractive, she's a bit on the shorter side, she's not super skinny, she has a button nose that's a little turned up, she doesn't have defining cheekbones...

Mary Burchell wrote for Mills and Boon decades ago (shut up, she was a good writer) and she had a description that a woman who looks like nothing out of the ordinary and then in sudden moments looks stunningly beautiful is the most dangerous of all.

Of course as my friend always points out to me I am incapable of finding someone attractive (baring the near perfect examples) unless I like their personality. 

Same here (which is why I like Tom Hiddleston, but I prefer him with Loki hair).

I also find it hard to like a person if they've been playing a character that I don't like.  Sela Ward is gorgeous but it took me years to be able to watch her in anything after seeing her on House.

 

I have to say that the "glamming up" of lead actresses in shows from the second season on seems to be a general problem.  It annoyed me when they did it to Lisbon on The Mentalist and when they did it to Beckett on Castle.  They're cops, they don't need to look like models!  Likewise, let Felicity just be a regular person sometimes - it makes no sense for her to wear high heels in the Arrow Cave in the middle of the night.  It also doesn't make sense that she would have just suddenly abandoned all the more low-key clothes she wore in S1.

I hated when they had all that flowing long hair for Beckett on top of her incredibly high heels and then expected me to see her as a working cop.

 

I miss the panda flats from s1. The high heels and tight skirts are ridiculous for long nights in the lair, especially as you can see that EBR isn't entirely comfortable walking in them.  (And she's said in interviews that if you can't see her feet in a scene, she's wearing flip flops.)  I don't know about her but I breathed a sigh or relief when Felicity showed up in pants and boots for the last trip to Nanda Parbat.

[wonderwall]

@EmeraldArcher To the outsider, I suppose. But in the end, Oliver (and pretty much everyone else who know them) knows that he's probably the lucky one of the two. 

Edited August 4, 2015 by wonderwall

[EmeraldArcher]

@EmeraldArcher To the outsider, I suppose. But in the end, Oliver (and pretty much everyone else who know them) knows that he's probably the lucky one of the two.

I agree with you and everyone who knows he's the lucky one. The conversation about her attractiveness started up thread. I even expressed my discomfort in an earlier post about weighing in on the purely superficial aspects of Felicity. However, I kept digging myself in deeper anyway!

I guess that my ultimate thought was that the show initially presented them as occupying different points on the attractiveness continuum, but such trivialities fall off when people develop real feelings.

[Morrigan2575]

Felicity never immediately inspired admiration based on her looks--her value always came from her other qualities. I don't recall her ever being described as beautiful in the same way that Helena, McKenna, Isabel, and Laurel were by other characters (usually Felicity). I know that she's become superhero catnip, but they have never been instantly transfixed by her beauty.

 

I have to disagree, the show most definitely played Felicity as HAWT in S1.  There might not have been text to support it but, the scene in S1 where Felicity walks in with the gold dress was 100% played as holy shit check out the hottie!.  It's in how they framed the scene, they pan up the legs until the Felicity reveal,  coupled with Oliver's look of wow, that's Felicity?  They actually used the same trick in "She's All That".  I think they also used it in another rom com as well

As far as Felicity being the one to comment on all those women being HAWT I can't say, I only recall the gorgeous Laurel comment and something about Isabel's legs.  However, isn't it also possible that Felicity being the one to comment on the other woman's beauty isn't supposed to indicate that everyone in the universe considers them beautiful and Felicity average but rather Felicity's own insecurity?

Edited August 4, 2015 by Morrigan2575

[statsgirl]

I don't think anyone has actually said that Felicity is not attractive enough, and she's certainly superhero catnip.  I think Brandon Routh said in one of his early interviews that Ray went looking for the person with the IT fame and was surprised at how attractive she was when he finally met her.

 

The idea that Felicity isn't attractive comes from Felicity herself, who is socially awkward, not dating when we meet her, and puts herself lower than "gorgeous Laurel" or even Sara.

 

ETA: Snap, Morrigan. We posted the same thought at the same time.

Edited August 4, 2015 by statsgirl

[Morrigan2575]

duplicate post

Edited August 4, 2015 by Morrigan2575

[wonderwall]

I mean, I've seen people argue against Olicity by saying that in the real world, Olicity would never happen because Felicity isn't good looking enough for a guy like Oliver. I just don't really understand that argument because in the real world, there aren't any vigilantes who wear hoods and leather, in the real world, Laurel would never have even talked to Oliver again, in the real world, Oliver would probably be catatonic because of all the crap he's been through. So....

 

I'm just saying, looks don't really mean anything on Arrow anymore. 

[EmilyBettFan]

I don't know I happen to like the boob dresses. Not for that fact but if you look at the dress in 3x01 when she's walking down the stairs it's her legs that catch my eye. She's just looks strong. I say watch that particular part again. Her legs look amazing.

[EmeraldArcher]

@Morrigan and @statsgirl

I never meant to convey that Felicity was ever considered unattractive or that any character verbalized anything like that. However, Cinderella transformations are only possible when the person isn't immediately perceived as already being beautiful--hence the transformation. I'm sure that Oliver saw the potential in his early encounters with Felicity, but he certainly did not gape at her like he did when she walked in wearing that gold dress. I can't recall where I read it, but someone/a fan once expressed appreciation for how Felicity did not seem out of her element at all when wearing such a sexy dress.

There are some women who are stunning no matter what they're wearing, some whose beauty shines through thanks to a Cinderella moment, and others who just never appeal to us. I think of Felicity as being in the middle category and others see her in one of the other two.

Edited August 4, 2015 by EmeraldArcher

[statsgirl]

I like to think that Oliver would have responded who Felicity is as a person, which is someone who could make him smile and someone he didn't have to pretend around, as he did with Laurel or McKenna.

 

 

I mean, I've seen people argue against Olicity by saying that in the real world, Olicity would never happen because Felicity isn't good looking enough for a guy like Oliver.

Maybe Oliver is more like Pierce Brosnan.  It's terribly superficial to only base attraction on physical looks, and such a narrow scale too.

 

It seems to be a standard that older rich men go for  young, beautiful dumb woman to marry for wife #2 or more, so that they could have more children.  When the research came out that intelligence is passed along on the X chromosome, I thought about the decision to go for the beautiful but stupid women, and I laughed and laughed.

[EmeraldArcher]

I like to think that Oliver would have responded who Felicity is as a person, which is someone who could make him smile and someone he didn't have to pretend around, as he did with Laurel or McKenna.

Luckily, that's exactly what happened, and he fell more deeply in love with Felicity than he had with any other woman he'd had a relationship with before her.

[AyChihuahua]

Sometimes around here it feels like saying Felicity/EBR is anything other than perfect in every way is taken as an attack. EBR is beautiful, and Felicity is beautiful (although I agree some of the outfit choices for Felicity are questionable, and often her dresses seem to be one size too small - PLEASE NOTE I AM NOT SAYING THAT I THINK EBR IS FAT). It doesn't seem terribly controversial to me to say that by US standards Oliver is probably a 9.5 or higher, while Felicity is probably an 8.5, purely looks-wise. In absolutely every other way, from intelligence to loyalty to good-heartedness to emotional stability, Felicity is leaps and bounds too good for Oliver, and I would be willing to bet a lot of money that he would be the first person to say that.

I liked her early S2 hair. I thought she looked really pretty with her hair straightened and down, and I loved it straight and long and in a ponytail. I love wavy hair, but wavy hair always looks fantastic straightened because it has a lot of body.

[kismet]

Her wardrobe & hair choices have been somewhat questionable since they glammed her up but that's on costume/hair not EBR/FS. I think s2 had enough balance between the sexy short skirts & some cute girl next door/geeky charm. But in s3 they went too far into sexy tight dresses all the time, that in all honesty were not properly sized for EBR. There is a charm to her, that I think her outfits & hair kinda overshadowed in s3.

[EmeraldArcher]

I liked her early S2 hair. I thought she looked really pretty with her hair straightened and down, and I loved it straight and long and in a ponytail. I love wavy hair, but wavy hair always looks fantastic straightened because it has a lot of body.

 

Early S2 was my favorite look for Felicity, especially her hair!  I thought her first few professional outfits were striking on her and really transformed her look from the quirky cardigans from S1 into someone more sartorially polished.  However, there was still a lot of inconsistency, especially the black and white dress with an A-line skirt and a print a bit too whimsical (pairs of glasses?) for the corporate world. Oh, but her hair was gorgeous when it was down, and she looked closer to her character's age.  I think she looked younger in the S3 finale with her hair in the short ponytail than she looked in early S2.

 

I love Felicity's quirkiness, including the quirky clothes from S1, but I don't know if it was just a phase she went through (like her earlier Goth phase) or a more stable character hallmark.

[BkWurm1]

I love Felicity and EBR, but I've always felt there was incongruity between Felicity's level of attractiveness and Oliver's. Even when she's dressed to impress--like for her date with Oliver in 3x01--I didn't think she was convincingly beautiful on a superficial level to attract an obviously "hot" guy like Oliver.

 

Interesting.  I had the opposite reaction to them in 3.01, I remember thinking how well they matched. 

 

by US standards Oliver is probably a 9.5 or higher, while Felicity is probably an 8.5, purely looks-wise.

 

Oliver has an insane body but his face is really not IMO much more than the jock next door either.  I would have had O&F pretty even in facial beauty.  But then I at a young age started obsessing with Cary Grant, Rock Hudson and Pierce Brosnan.  That level of pretty is hard to measure up to, lol.  Interestingly, I've heard from several people that in person SA is far more stunning than they'd thought before. 

 

Maybe Oliver is more like Pierce Brosnan.  It's terribly superficial to only base attraction on physical looks, and such a narrow scale too.

 

Like I said, he's been one of my fav's since a very young age (ah, Remington Steele!)  I'm glad he's proved to be more than just a pretty face.  Pats good boy on the head. 

Edited August 4, 2015 by BkWurm1

[AyChihuahua]

Jensen Ackles. I quit watching Supernatural years ago, but he's basically physically perfect. From what I read, many of the female guest stars back in the day were jealous of his apparently perfect skin. My weirdest crushes are Humphrey Bogart and Andy Sipowicz (NYPD Blue). I loved that Andy was a genuine dick who was trying to become a better person. Hey, Mama Smoak and I have similar taste! (Charlotte Ross played his third and final wife for several seasons.)

Oh, and Paul Newman. Especially Long Hot Summer Paul Newman. And he married Joanne Woodward, who was by most estimates not nearly as physically attractive as he was, and they had a long and happy marriage.

[Sakura12]

Looks wise for me I'd put Felicity/EBR higher than Oliver/Stephen. He's got a nice body but his face is average. Emily has a natural beauty, that doesn't need to be caked with make up.  A 9.5 or higher would be Matt Bomer for me, with or without facial hair that man's got a perfect face. Plus I really have thing for dark hair and blue eyes. 

[AyChihuahua]

Matt Bomer is definitely up there. I gave Oliver a 9.5+ based on what probably his rating would be from a cross-section of US women. Weirdly, I would say Stephen Amell is a little less attractive than Oliver, probably because of his goofy outfits and backwards baseball caps, although apparently he looks great IRL. Also, EBR IRL is more like a 9+. She looks gorgeous in that picture above that Morrigan posted.

[Sakura12]

Having met him, I'd call SA cute but not hot. I'd put him at an 8 and EBR at a 9. But again those are my personal preferences. I also think EBR's personality puts her higher on my list. I love when famous people are giant dorks IRL. Her using a deep voice to say Targaryen in response to my shirt or how she geeked out talking about Orphan Black with me.

[EmilyBettFan]

Matt Bomer is perfect.

[statsgirl]

I would say anything that ranks an 8 or higher is really a matter of personal preference.  There is only so far you can go with perfect feature conformity and societal colouring and then it becomes chaqu' un a son gout (each to his own taste, also an great melody/political satire from Strauss' Die Fleidermaus).  Personally I wouldn't rate any of Kardashians over a 6 but obviously the rest of the world disagrees with me.

 

 

Oh, and Paul Newman. Especially Long Hot Summer Paul Newman. And he married Joanne Woodward, who was by most estimates not nearly as physically attractive as he was, and they had a long and happy marriage.

It was Paul Newman who said "Why should I go out for hamburger when I have steak at home?" 

 

I think Joanne Woodward is attractive and I'd watch her in just about anything (especially a sequel to Long Hot Summer, but Newman was considered the wildly attractive one.