The Hosts Thread: Joe and Mika Know Their Value

[teddysmom]

Here you go kids.  The "program" Mika is using to relieve herself of her stressful life.  It's more of the poor me, "I raised 2 kids, got a divorce, and get up before the sun comes up" . Also started KYV, which no one asked her to do, wrote "several books" don't recall any public clamoring for those, and got married. 

Mika has reset herself.

I recommend having anti nausea medication in the house before proceeding. 

https://www.nbcnews.com/know-your-value/feature/stress-anxiety-mika-s-massive-reset-ncna999746

[meowmommy]

2 hours ago, teddysmom said:

Mika has reset herself.

I recommend having anti nausea medication in the house before proceeding. 

OMG.  I don't know which is more infuriating, the banality or the utter lack of self-awareness.

Does she really want to hold herself up as the paragon of single parenthood and stress and exhaustion?  Let me know when she can share what it's like being a true single mom of a special needs child, working 12 hour night shifts in intensive care and then coming home to take care of your baby, managing all her medical appointments during the day and going back to work on maybe 2 hours sleep, because your dad wasn't the national security adviser and you didn't grow up with a silver spoon in your mouth.  

[Chloesmom]

Hey, here's a fun clip of Meeks counseling Lisa Flores about her value (scroll down a bit):

2 hours ago, teddysmom said:

The "program" Mika is using to relieve herself of her stressful life.

She's probably getting a cut of any generated downloads.  Grifters.

[Chloesmom]

Here is Joe defending Biden and his personal space issues:

Here is the universe's reaction to same:

[Chloesmom]

[Chloesmom]

And here's our winner:

[Jaded]

 

[suomi]

You gotta scroll through the replies to Joey, I bet They Are PISSED. The titty block photo says a lot and, man, I feel bad for the chickie playing the flute.

[Chloesmom]

Ok, I'll give credit where credit is due.  This is hilarious (and a previer of tomorrow's show):

[Kemper]

Mr. Kemper (over his morning oatmeal and grits) commented this morning on the fact that Willie is basically the host of this show.  The Gold Dust Twins pop up to interject an opinion or rant (Joe's case) or mutter in the background in order to appear engaged (Meeka's case).  Or they both use the opportunity to push their pet projects.

Willie sits at the desk and manages everything and does most of the interviews and questioning.  And he appears to do his homework and research on guests and topics.  He is undervalued and underappreciated.

[teddysmom]

14 hours ago, Chloesmom said:

She's probably getting a cut of any generated downloads. 

I googled the program and it's used for people who have a history of self harm or suicidal tendencies. 

WTF

I'd love to know who got her onto this, or if she read something about it and decided to self prescribe it. 

Why isn't she seeing a licensed therapist if she's having so many problems controlling her emotions?  Last time I checked posing for photos while sitting on a conference table isn't listed in the American Journal of Psychiatry as a valid treatment, unless you're treating yourself to another ego trip. 

[teddysmom]

33 minutes ago, Kemper said:

The Gold Dust Twins pop up to interject an opinion or rant

I had MSNBC on a lot last night, just happened to turn on Hardball when the Mueller thing broke, and altho there was an air of excitement and shock, I don't recall any of the hysterics Joe and esp Mika were exhibiting this morning.  Even as Rachel and Lawrence were discussing Barr's nickname "Cover Up General",  their voices hadn't gone up three octaves and they were even laughing about how no one would get any sleep the rest of the week. 

I just pray Mika has a conf table and some candles handy.  

[Chloesmom]

3 minutes ago, teddysmom said:

Last time I checked posing for photos while sitting on a conference table isn't listed in the American Journal of Psychiatry as a valid treatment, unless you're treating yourself to another ego trip. 

Well she did add that calming candle . . . I don't know where I read it but she was talking about going for a run and it was so exilerating she accidently ran an additional two miles.  Wuh?  I mean I love to go shoe shopping but I would notice if I had an extra two pairs in my bag before I left the store.  She just seems to careen around looking for that perfect spotlight to bask in.

[teddysmom]

14 hours ago, suomi said:

You gotta scroll through the replies to Joey, I bet They Are PISSED. The titty block photo says a lot and, man, I feel bad for the chickie playing the flute.

I don't care what anyone says, those photos are creepy AF.  Why is he blowing into that one kid's mouth?  

[The Solution]

14 hours ago, Chloesmom said:

And here's our winner:

Good God! Face like an asscrack x15!

[teddysmom]

2 minutes ago, Chloesmom said:

it was so exilerating she accidently ran an additional two miles. 

So now Mika is Forrest Gump?

Maybe Joe just drove about 5 miles from the house and dropped her off and told her to find her way back and she got lost. 

[teddysmom]

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  53 MINUTES AGO, KEMPER SAID:

There were no small-ish houses in Connecticut; or wherever they were living?  That is such total BS.  She is heroic and brave.  Just when I think I can't resent her more...this kind of stuff comes out. 

Also the mothers. " I did it to live near my mother and take care of her. And he did the same to move his mother close to us before she passed away last month. I did it to clear out all the extra people and material stuff in my life. And I did it to live in a small home with no distractions around me. I did it to have a quiet place to rest and recover and work on myself and my family."

Except a tv studio in my basement, flying back and forth from FL to NY every other week, running my shaminar, writing my "books", photo shoots, etc. 

What exactly happened that she needed to "rest and recover".  The stress of her life was brought on by her decisions. No one made her take the Morning Joe gig where she had to get up at 3 am, she could have quit any time, or cheat on her husband, or run around the country with her boss/boyfriend. 

How about some self reflection that you're your own worst enemy, Mika. 

[Chloesmom]

2 hours ago, teddysmom said:

shaminar

This is perfect.

(Soon to be available in both cologne and eau de parfum).

Edited May 1, 2019 by Chloesmom

[Kemper]

ChloesMom...perfect.  And yes from the poster above...Shaminar.  Wins the week!  And we are only on Wednesday.

[oakville]

8 hours ago, teddysmom said:

Also the mothers. " I did it to live near my mother and take care of her. And he did the same to move his mother close to us before she passed away last month. I did it to clear out all the extra people and material stuff in my life. And I did it to live in a small home with no distractions around me. I did it to have a quiet place to rest and recover and work on myself and my family."

Except a tv studio in my basement, flying back and forth from FL to NY every other week, running my shaminar, writing my "books", photo shoots, etc. 

What exactly happened that she needed to "rest and recover".  The stress of her life was brought on by her decisions. No one made her take the Morning Joe gig where she had to get up at 3 am, she could have quit any time, or cheat on her husband, or run around the country with her boss/boyfriend. 

How about some self reflection that you're your own worst enemy, Mika. 

You made several good points.

I thought that Joe had moved his mom from Florida to Connecticut  few years ago. Joe's brother lives in Pensacola. It seems that Joe moved his mom back to Florida to be closer to Mika's mom.

Joe's daughter got accepted to boarding school outside Connecticut & the youngest Jack appears to be living in Florida. & playing baseball.

It's possible that Joe's ex wife Susan moved back to Florida. I think she used to work for Jeb Bush when she married Joe , so she might still have family in Florida.

I believe that Mika & Joe's accountants advised them of the tax advantages of moving to Florida. Joe rarely visits the NY or Washington Studio unless he has to rehearse for his band.

Mika shows up in the NY & Washington Studio  more often for the KYV activities.

[Chloesmom]

I swear the jokes just write themselves . . . . glad I went with my gut . . . I don't think that's what you lead with Meeks to get where you are now . . . 😉

[teddysmom]

1 hour ago, Chloesmom said:

I swear the jokes just write themselves . . . . glad I went with my gut . . . I don't think that's what you lead with Meeks to get where you are now . . . 😉

 

I read that article yesterday about her "risk" taking. Man does she slam Joe.

"It was "HIS" idea for show concept, I could have thought it up too, but he marched right in there and told the bosses what he wanted. More on that. Also he came up with the name, which I could have done too. "

Then she goes on about the bosses telling her not to work with Joe, that he was a loser.  

Is there a candle big enough for this rage? 

Edited May 2, 2019 by teddysmom

[suomi]

Considering his years as the Lion of the House and the host of a talk show, FFS, Joe is not a polished speaker and doesn't spontaneously think well. He came off with way too many "uhs" during MJ's extended coverage this morning.

Willie sounded like an experienced professional.

Edited May 2, 2019 by suomi
typo

[Ohwell]

Does Mika wear dark colors because she thinks it gives her more gravitas?  If so, it ain't working, Mika. 

[meowmommy]

3 hours ago, suomi said:

Considering his years as the Lion of the House and the host of a talk show, FFS, Joe is not a polished speaker and doesn't spontaneously think well.

Which of course begs the obvious and everyday question:  why do this particular guy and his vapid, grasping wife have a political teevee show?  There are plenty of ex-Congresscritters who could do better, like David Jolly, Donna Edwards, or Heidi Heitkamp, if ex-Congresscritter needs to be on the resume.

[XOQueens]

Know Your Value...

“Disgraced political pundit and television personality Mark Halperin has been spending the past several months on a quiet yet calculated professional rehabilitation campaign with the active help of MSNBC Morning Joe hosts Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski.”

https://www.thedailybeast.com/mark-halperin-enlists-pals-joe-scarborough-mika-brzezinski-and-michael-smerconish-to-rehab-his-career?ref=home

One of many gems in here:

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”Brzezinski introduced the April 5 segment by touting political news “that actually was broken by Mark Halperin… about the Bernie Sanders campaign,” and added that he’d also discussed “his own personal situations and the terrible mistakes that he he has made and addressed them. Let’s show that.” 

According to multiple MSNBC sources, the cable outlet’s executives were not forewarned that Brzezinski was going to address such an internally sensitive issue in public, and they were not happy about it. MSNBC, Scarborough, and Brzezinski declined to comment for this story.

Edited May 3, 2019 by XOQueens

[xaxat]

I wonder how Mika explains that to her NYV clients. 

Because that doesn't seem on brand.

[XOQueens]

The replies to this are 🔥...

[may flowers]

5 hours ago, XOQueens said:

Know Your Value...

“Disgraced political pundit and television personality Mark Halperin has been spending the past several months on a quiet yet calculated professional rehabilitation campaign with the active help of MSNBC Morning Joe hosts Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski.”

https://www.thedailybeast.com/mark-halperin-enlists-pals-joe-scarborough-mika-brzezinski-and-michael-smerconish-to-rehab-his-career?ref=home

One of many gems in here:

Mika and Joe’s direct actions to bring back Halperin, including developing an online only show with him, are despicable. Not only is this anti-brand for Ms. KYV, but it’s also a reminder how, like they did with Trump, Mika & Joe champion the powerful men and degrade the women (see Clinton, Hillary).

Oakville can speak more knowledgeably to this, but Mika and Joe have been highly successful at seeding “their people” on MSNBC (except prime time) and are fairly powerful there. I wouldn’t be surprised if they got their way here - disgusted, but not surprised. 

Edited May 3, 2019 by may flowers

[suomi]

5 hours ago, XOQueens said:

Know Your Value...

“Disgraced political pundit and television personality Mark Halperin has been spending the past several months on a quiet yet calculated professional rehabilitation campaign with the active help of MSNBC Morning Joe hosts Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski.”

There are no words. Except:

"... he stood behind me, his (erect) [albeit clothed] penis, on my shoulder ... " 

Well, hell, what's with all the pearl clutching? Bring him back. ASAP. Give him a phat contract, Scarborough style. Make him a regular and seat him right next to Mika. Joey on her left and this (fill in the blank) on her immediate right. We'll never see Heilemann on MJ again but, hey ... 

There are no words. Except:

Joe and Mika (and MH, apparently), the results of their thought processes are somewhere between SNL and The Twilight Zone. The words stunningly superficial come to mind. Can they also be this stunningly unaware?  

4 hours ago, XOQueens said:

The replies to this are 🔥...

The replies were overwhelmingly harsh, yay, but my favorite actually was:

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"thank goodness someone is looking out for the white males of the world."

Ouch. 

Mika has often mentioned liking her wine. I wonder how much it's currently taking to float her boat? Because she is wrapped way too tight. 

[Chloesmom]

Well if this article doesn't spell it out for folks nothing will.  I think the only thing that made my jaw drop was that they plow ahead with things on the air without running them by management first in addition to creating their own little You Tube blurbs with Halperin which would be in direct competition with the folks that pay them.  

I had read several articles that Halperin wasn't popular with his peers because of the way he does business for years but now you are starting to see that maybe the Scarboroughs are ordering from the same menu.

Now seating Clueless party, table for three . . . 😉

[may flowers]

As if to prove this story true, Joe retweeted Halperin this morning.  With that, I’m pretty sure we’ll see him on MJ soon. They took no lesson from boosting Trump, did they?

[Chloesmom]

41 minutes ago, may flowers said:

As if to prove this story true, Joe retweeted Halperin this morning.  With that, I’m pretty sure we’ll see him on MJ soon. They took no lesson from boosting Trump, did they?

See this is what I mean, no matter what happens they continue to do whatever they want.  I think back on the reporting about what went on at CBS and now I wonder if NBC doesn't have the same problem with their upper management.

I read through Halperin's post du jour and all I have to say is it's clear Heileman was the brains/writer of that duo.

[XOQueens]

1 hour ago, may flowers said:

As if to prove this story true, Joe retweeted Halperin this morning.  With that, I’m pretty sure we’ll see him on MJ soon. They took no lesson from boosting Trump, did they?

I hope this is what sinks them. The article has received a lot of attention, and it sounded like MSNBC was already mad about it.

eta: that Tweet is getting a hefty ratio. 

Edited May 3, 2019 by XOQueens

[meowmommy]

On 5/3/2019 at 5:36 AM, XOQueens said:

I hope this is what sinks them. The article has received a lot of attention

WaPo's chipped in.  

Mark Halperin is seeking a comeback. His accusers have a problem with that.

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Just 18 months after his career as a political pundit and TV commentator imploded amid sexual harassment and assault allegations, Mark Halperin is trying to mount a comeback. He’s getting help from media personalities including MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinksi.

The Daily Beast reported Thursday that Scarborough and Brzezinski — co-hosts of MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” program — discussed plans to collaborate with Halperin on an online-only program analyzing the 2018 midterms (the program never came to fruition). Before his firing by NBC News, Halperin was a regular panelist on “Morning Joe.”

Brzezinski, in particular, has been publicly supportive of Halperin. At one point in late 2017, she said on “Morning Joe” that Halperin’s accusers owed him the opportunity to apologize in a face-to-face meeting. Her comments drew a scathing rebuke from some of his accusers. Brzezinski apologized on air.

The commenters aren't any more supportive than the Twitterverse:

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Mika most definitely is NOT an advocate for women, other than extremely privileged women exactly like her. And why watch "Morning Joe" at all? Mika is pathetic, not very bright and so thoroughly in thrall in every respect to the POV of powerful men -- including hubby Joe and predators like Halperin -- that she lacks any credibility; likewise, Joe, besides being as much of a dolt as Mika, has always lacked both integrity and credibility on a whole host of grounds; and a disproportionate number of their standing panelists and guests have long track records of open misogyny, dating back at least to their open knives treatment of Hillary in her 2008 primary campaign.

I think we're gonna find out if Joe and Mika wield as much power within the network as they think they do.

[Jaded]

I hope MSNBC regrets upping their contracts. I've been hoping for something to happen where the blowback might get them in hot water along with the higher ups for allowing it to happen. Phil Griffin should have been booted long ago. Hasn't it been said he and Joe are buddies or am I thinking of someone else Joe is tight with high up the ranks at NBC?

[Daisy11306]

They are going nowhere. They signed their contracts after the incident but before the incident in April. They have a ton of clout at nbc and can do pretty much anything they want.

[Kemper]

I would love to take some of the other MSNBC personnel to a  nine-martini lunch and find out how they feel about the Gold Dust Twins, especially Meeka.  I would take Katy Tur, Andrea Mitchell, Nicolle Wallace, Hallie Jackson, Kristen Welcher, Stephanie Ruhle and a couple of other whose names I cannot remember; just not KC/DC.

[XOQueens]

Has the contract signing news been written about anywhere else but a poster here? Those sort of things usually get leaked, even last time with all three of them, so it’s weird there’s been nothing. 

Edited May 5, 2019 by XOQueens

[Jaded]

7 hours ago, Daisy11306 said:

They are going nowhere. They signed their contracts after the incident but before the incident in April. They have a ton of clout at nbc and can do pretty much anything they want.

I know. That doesn't mean I can't hope that they won't come out of promoting their asshole friend unscathed. 

[suomi]

8 hours ago, Daisy11306 said:

They are going nowhere. They signed their contracts after the incident but before the incident in April. They have a ton of clout at nbc and can do pretty much anything they want.

Friend-Of-The-Show Harold Ford Jr thought his manure was fragrant because he had friends who were highly placed in management. He fell from his lofty perch when they fell from theirs. 

It does happen; not often enough, but it happens.

Preacher Joe and his snooty and untalented bride like to think that the adage Pride goeth before a fall doesn't pertain to them. Someday, it will. And it will be glorious to behold. Amen.

Edited May 5, 2019 by suomi
typo

[may flowers]

8 hours ago, Daisy11306 said:

They are going nowhere. They signed their contracts after the incident but before the incident in April. They have a ton of clout at nbc and can do pretty much anything they want.

The same could probably have been said about Lauer. I tend to agree that hubris will be their downfall. Sooner rather than later is my hope - the newly religious Joe is truly annoying. 

[suomi]

I noticed that He and She are guesting on The View on Tuesday. 

Stand by for a barrage of self-promotion, there is a new volume in the KYV series debuting on May 7. This one is aimed at 20-something women and is called Earn It!

The original was Know Your Value, the revision was Knowing Your Value, those were followed by Grow Your Value.

As amply demonstrated in the past, this fierce author and women's advocate  rarely appears in public  without her security blanket/Joe by her side.

Mainly because he doesn't trust her as far as he can throw her. 

[meowmommy]

21 minutes ago, suomi said:

As amply demonstrated in the past, this fierce author and women's advocate  rarely appears in public  without her security blanket/Joe by her side.

I dunno, a feminist who can't function without a man reminds me of when my daughter was a vegetarian who ate bacon.

[Kemper]

I don't know if anyone is familiar with Celia Rivenbark, the author.  She was a "lifestyle" columnist for the Wilmington, NC paper back in the day.  She wrote some really funny books on all things Southern and is a true Woman of the South.  She pulls no punches.  A political, sharp-tongued Erma Bombeck who can do wonderful, catty put downs.  She has been "woke" politically.  By using "woke" I am trying to mask my age.

She has graduated to writing a humorous weekly political/editorial column in various papers, including the Raleigh, NC one.  Today she had a column about trying to make everyone, of all political persuasions, come together.  She mentioned Meeka's name several times in what I at first thought was a "heads-up" you-go-girl kind of way.  But then I realized she was poking fun at Meeka's KYV schtick.  At least that is what I think she was doing.  Has anyone else seen it?

[meowmommy]

32 minutes ago, Kemper said:

Today she had a column about trying to make everyone, of all political persuasions, come together.  She mentioned Meeka's name several times in what I at first thought was a "heads-up" you-go-girl kind of way.  But then I realized she was poking fun at Meeka's KYV schtick. 

I might not be reading the right article, as I can't find anything dated today, or on making everyone come together, but I found this:

Nope, We Don’t Treat Women Candidates the Same

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Mika Brzezinski: Oh, sure. Because I’m the girl. Maybe you need to read my new book: “Women and the Inferior Men Who Steal Their Jobs and Their Futures and Why We Hate Them.” Well, it’s a working title…

I don't know.  I feel like the writer snarked more obviously on BriWi and other male media types than she did on Mika.  Just a light slap at Mika's particular strain of monetized banal pseudo-feminist word salad claptrap gobbledygook politicobabble.

[Chloesmom]

22 hours ago, Kemper said:

I would love to take some of the other MSNBC personnel to a  nine-martini lunch and find out how they feel about the Gold Dust Twins, especially Meeka.  I would take Katy Tur, Andrea Mitchell, Nicolle Wallace, Hallie Jackson, Kristen Welcher, Stephanie Ruhle and a couple of other whose names I cannot remember; just not KC/DC.

First pitcher is on me my friend.  I'll run along ahead and reserve a big booth . . . 😄

[Chloesmom]

10 hours ago, meowmommy said:

I might not be reading the right article, as I can't find anything dated today, or on making everyone come together, but I found this:

Nope, We Don’t Treat Women Candidates the Same

I don't know.  I feel like the writer snarked more obviously on BriWi and other male media types than she did on Mika.  Just a light slap at Mika's particular strain of monetized banal pseudo-feminist word salad claptrap gobbledygook politicobabble.

Meowmommy thanks for posting this (and Kemper thanks for highlighting it).  It's good to start the day with a giggle!

[Chloesmom]

18 hours ago, suomi said:

I noticed that He and She are guesting on The View on Tuesday. 

Oh good grief, this is gonna give me a headache but I'm in.  Thanks for the heads up Suomi!  I laughed out loud when I was setting up the reminder and The Security Blanket has top billing in the show description . . . 😅

Edited May 6, 2019 by Chloesmom

[Kemper]

Meowmommy...you are correct about the column being about the way the media treats female candidates.  It had been a long day at the the Kemper house.  Mr. Kemper was golfed out and Ms. Kemper was having none of it.

Ms. Rivernbark's snark on some of our "stars" ... Hannity, etc., was great.  It is just that she mentioned Meeka several times, with Meeks droning on about her Women's Platform.  And then Ms. Rivenbark sweetly/southernly telling her to pipe down.