Bookish Jen November 14, 2016 Share November 14, 2016 Speaking of journalism, one of my favorites, Gwen Ifill has died at 61. I am gobsmacked and devastated. She was one of the greats. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/gwen-ifill-dead-dies_us_582a098ae4b02d21bbc9e113 Link to comment
normasm November 14, 2016 Share November 14, 2016 (edited) Yeah, hubby and I just saw that. God, can this year suck any more? Of course, every time i ask that question, something else happens, so maybe i should go back to being quiet, relatively speaking. Edited November 14, 2016 by normasm 1 Link to comment
Bookish Jen November 14, 2016 Share November 14, 2016 (edited) 3 minutes ago, normasm said: Yeah, hubby and I just saw that. God, can this year suck any more? Of course, every time i ask that question, something else happens, so maybe i should go back to being quiet. I just want to wrap my favorite, Bill Moyers, in bubble wrap. On-topic: Anti-terrorist Squad with Prentiss, Alvez, Rossi and JJ as its members is such a journalistic mistake Stevie Wonder could see it. Edited November 14, 2016 by Bookish Jen Link to comment
normasm November 14, 2016 Share November 14, 2016 (edited) Bubblewrap the Notorious RBG, too, please. But leave room for her to breathe. OK, we'll get back on topic. Edited November 14, 2016 by normasm 1 Link to comment
Bookish Jen November 14, 2016 Share November 14, 2016 (edited) 4 hours ago, normasm said: "...the newly created Anti-terrorist Squad with Prentiss, Alvez, Rossi and JJ as its members..." The wha? As far as I know, there is no such thing. The Anti-Terror Squad was that group of bullied kids in last weeks episode, not some new faction of the BAU. This article is at least click-bait, probably more like the ramblings of a group of ill-informed morons. Ooops 10 minutes ago, normasm said: Bubblewrap the Notorious RBG, too, please. But leave room for her to breathe. OK, we'll get back on topic. And Sen. Elizabeth Warren. On-topic: I wonder what BS is leaking from the CM set or are these so-called "journalists" just pulling BS out of thin air? Edited November 14, 2016 by Bookish Jen Link to comment
Autistic Queer January 4, 2017 Share January 4, 2017 http://tvline.com/2017/01/04/harold-perrineau-criminal-minds-season-12-cast/ New casting info. All I know about this guy is he's the only actor in Goliath that didn't irritate me. Link to comment
Droogie January 4, 2017 Share January 4, 2017 Yay! Another new character who won't matter to me. 3 Link to comment
MMC January 4, 2017 Share January 4, 2017 To be honest, were I able to have more confidence in this show runner and her writers I would not mind admitting that I do find his role a bit interesting. And just what do they mean by recurring. Is it going to be the same as A.T. who was also only suppose to be recurring when she first started but still ended up in almost every damn episode. 1 Link to comment
Autistic Queer January 4, 2017 Share January 4, 2017 (edited) Never mind Edited January 4, 2017 by MsJayTee Link to comment
secnarf January 4, 2017 Share January 4, 2017 I find the premise interesting. We'll have to see what the execution is like. 2 Link to comment
smoker January 4, 2017 Share January 4, 2017 thanks for the post they need good writers, no more actors. I don't understand some "tv shows" logic At least the idea is different, but my educated guess is that it will be poorly developed, as always 3 Link to comment
Willowy January 5, 2017 Share January 5, 2017 Sounds kinda cool. I always like when they would try to consult with the criminals (I imagine that's where they might go with this?). Didn't always work, like that crazy kid of Maggie Walsh's, or Chester Hardwick... but they got a lot of info out of the Fox sicko. 2 Link to comment
Willowy January 19, 2017 Share January 19, 2017 FINALLY! http://criminalmindsfans.com/criminal-minds-wins-peoples-choice-favorite-tv-crime-drama/ 2 Link to comment
Bookish Jen January 19, 2017 Share January 19, 2017 2 hours ago, Franky said: FINALLY! http://criminalmindsfans.com/criminal-minds-wins-peoples-choice-favorite-tv-crime-drama/ And of course, instead of watching The People's Choice Awards, I was watching Frontline on PBS. Link to comment
Willowy January 19, 2017 Share January 19, 2017 That's okay, Jen. Either I was in the bathroom or that was one of the awards they didn't televise. You didn't miss anything, as far as I know. I'm just so happy for them! 2 Link to comment
Bookish Jen January 19, 2017 Share January 19, 2017 1 hour ago, Franky said: That's okay, Jen. Either I was in the bathroom or that was one of the awards they didn't televise. You didn't miss anything, as far as I know. I'm just so happy for them! Thanks for letting me know. I would have been pissed not to see the CM cast accept the award. BTW the Frontline episode was riveting. Link to comment
Bookish Jen January 20, 2017 Share January 20, 2017 20 hours ago, normasm said: What was the subject, Booky? The episode was called Divided States of America. You can probably watch it on-line. Here is a link to learn more about this episode:http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/divided-states-of-america/ 1 Link to comment
ReidFan January 25, 2017 Share January 25, 2017 Erica speaks..... (although she's muzzled on some aspects) http://www.inquisitr.com/3896328/criminal-minds-writer-erica-messer-reveals-the-pain-of-losing-hotch-but-isnt-allowed-to-talk-about-thomas-gibson/ 2 Link to comment
Willowy January 25, 2017 Share January 25, 2017 That site takes news that's already out there, breaks it up and tries to make it seem like a new article. Those are all quotes from Erica's interview with TVGuide/TVLine and they added their own commentary, which is fine, but they always try to make it seem like new material, when it isn't. 3 Link to comment
secnarf January 25, 2017 Share January 25, 2017 45 minutes ago, Franky said: That site takes news that's already out there, breaks it up and tries to make it seem like a new article. Those are all quotes from Erica's interview with TVGuide/TVLine and they added their own commentary, which is fine, but they always try to make it seem like new material, when it isn't. Thanks, I thought I was going crazy or that maybe she just really stuck to her talking points, because I could have sworn I'd read at least some of those comments before. 1 Link to comment
Drogo April 7, 2017 Share April 7, 2017 Criminal Minds has been renewed for Season 13. Link to comment
Autistic Queer April 7, 2017 Share April 7, 2017 Here's the link http://tvline.com/2017/04/07/criminal-minds-renewed-season-13/ Link to comment
normasm April 7, 2017 Share April 7, 2017 Well, that's interesting. I wonder if Reid will be there? 1 Link to comment
JMO April 7, 2017 Share April 7, 2017 18 minutes ago, normasm said: Well, that's interesting. I wonder if Reid will be there? Yeah, not celebrating until that's assured. I've seen an article that said they were all 'expected' back. But that's a different word. 3 Link to comment
senin April 7, 2017 Share April 7, 2017 We can celebrate, only a little, maybe?? After all, if the show isn't renewed , there isn't any possibility for the actors. 3 Link to comment
normasm April 7, 2017 Share April 7, 2017 Well, yes, I'm glad for everyone who works so hard on that show. If Reid does not come back, it won't mean much to me, but yes, happy for the show! 25 minutes ago, JMO said: Yeah, not celebrating until that's assured. I've seen an article that said they were all 'expected' back. But that's a different word. Matthew probably has some leverage i would think, which he may use either as a raise for a full season, or a recurring role for Reid, and some directing stints. 4 Link to comment
Danielg342 April 7, 2017 Share April 7, 2017 I wonder how many episodes it will be. The show only needs 23 episodes after this season to get to 300. Methinks CBS might end it there. 2 Link to comment
Hotchgirl18 April 7, 2017 Share April 7, 2017 So apparently it's been renewed? That's all I'll say about that. Link to comment
ForeverAlone April 7, 2017 Share April 7, 2017 I would actually be intrigued by this prospect if there was an overhaul to the showrunner and writers. But since that is probably not happening, I'm going to assume that season 13 will be pretty much in line with season 12 (i.e. not good). 2 Link to comment
Hotchgirl18 April 7, 2017 Share April 7, 2017 7 minutes ago, ForeverAlone said: I would actually be intrigued by this prospect if there was an overhaul to the showrunner and writers. But since that is probably not happening, I'm going to assume that season 13 will be pretty much in line with season 12 (i.e. not good). Unless they start making changes, it's going to stay the same. Nothing will change. They're just milking it so they can get to 300 episodes. It's all about money. Link to comment
UncleChuck April 7, 2017 Share April 7, 2017 Does this mean another 20+ episodes to drag out the "Mr. Scratch" nonsense??? 1 Link to comment
JMO April 7, 2017 Share April 7, 2017 1 hour ago, Hotchgirl18 said: Unless they start making changes, it's going to stay the same. Nothing will change. They're just milking it so they can get to 300 episodes. It's all about money. Everything about television is about the money. 2 Link to comment
Hotchgirl18 April 7, 2017 Share April 7, 2017 They just want to get to the 300th episode. Link to comment
R3volver April 8, 2017 Share April 8, 2017 I'm hopeful season 13 will be better as long as there isn't any drama/shake-ups during hiatus. The writers should have more time to get organized and review feedback before getting started. I can't say it'll be as good as older seasons, but better than 12. I don't blame the writers completely for season 12 because they were faced with a very difficult situation and little time to work around it. Link to comment
PMPA April 8, 2017 Share April 8, 2017 29 minutes ago, R3volver said: I'm hopeful season 13 will be better as long as there isn't any drama/shake-ups during hiatus. The writers should have more time to get organized and review feedback before getting started. I can't say it'll be as good as older seasons, but better than 12. I don't blame the writers completely for season 12 because they were faced with a very difficult situation and little time to work around it. Except the layout for a season is done way before they start filming, and more than likely at least the 1st 5/6 maybe more scripts are ready to go. Sure, there were some rewrites, but really only in Ep 6, and at that it was minimal. I mean, its not like an actual important character was being written out or anything....lol. Messer herself said that the idea for the Reid arc was touted way back. Rodriguez was on board, Lewis was on board, and Walker has been pretty much given some of Hotch's lines and the rest to Prentiss. Rewrites happen all the time. 1 Link to comment
R3volver April 8, 2017 Share April 8, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, PMPA said: Except the layout for a season is done way before they start filming, and more than likely at least the 1st 5/6 maybe more scripts are ready to go. Sure, there were some rewrites, but really only in Ep 6, and at that it was minimal. I mean, its not like an actual important character was being written out or anything....lol. Messer herself said that the idea for the Reid arc was touted way back. Rodriguez was on board, Lewis was on board, and Walker has been pretty much given some of Hotch's lines and the rest to Prentiss. Rewrites happen all the time. That doesn't make it easy to do in a short amount of time. I'm aware Reid's arc was planned, but I'm sure it's not far off to say things might have gone differently. The dynamic has changed so the writing needs to adjust to that. 54 minutes ago, ReidFan said: *shrug* I've enjoyed season 12. I've liked most of the episodes too. Edited April 8, 2017 by R3volver 2 Link to comment
PMPA April 8, 2017 Share April 8, 2017 37 minutes ago, R3volver said: That doesn't make it easy to do in a short amount of time. I'm aware Reid's arc was planned, but I'm sure it's not far off to say things might have gone differently. The dynamic has changed so the writing needs to adjust to that. I've liked most of the episodes too. No doubt that certain things had to be changed and it goes without saying that the dynamic changed, but I just feel that the writers are been given an out the don't deserve. Lets face it, writing as a weakness on CM is not confined to this season. Its been an issue for the last few seasons. Its just that the 'new' characters just make the poor writing stand out more IMO. 2 Link to comment
R3volver April 8, 2017 Share April 8, 2017 7 minutes ago, PMPA said: No doubt that certain things had to be changed and it goes without saying that the dynamic changed, but I just feel that the writers are been given an out the don't deserve. Lets face it, writing as a weakness on CM is not confined to this season. Its been an issue for the last few seasons. Its just that the 'new' characters just make the poor writing stand out more IMO. I'm not really giving them an out, I'm just saying it's not an easy situation to deal with. While I don't think the writing has been nearly as good as the early seasons, I personally don't feel they're terrible. The way I see it is that if fanfiction writers and roleplayers can work up interesting storylines, then the show's writers should be able to. They just need to pay attention to the constructive criticism. 3 Link to comment
PMPA April 8, 2017 Share April 8, 2017 Just now, R3volver said: I'm not really giving them an out, I'm just saying it's not an easy situation to deal with. While I don't think the writing has been nearly as good as the early seasons, I personally don't feel they're terrible. The way I see it is that if fanfiction writers and roleplayers can work up interesting storylines, then the show's writers should be able to. They just need to pay attention to the constructive criticism. Yes I agree with the "constructive criticism" part. Thing is, that has definitely not been a thing over the seasons. Breen Frazier left twitter years ago, Rick Dunkle was on and off and having tantrums anytime anyone so much as dared show a dislike for his work, and as for Mr. Williams...well, thats a whole bigger picture. A legend in his own world and known to take critisim with a high degree of professionlism.....NOT. LOL 1 Link to comment
Hotchgirl18 April 8, 2017 Share April 8, 2017 4 minutes ago, R3volver said: I'm not really giving them an out, I'm just saying it's not an easy situation to deal with. While I don't think the writing has been nearly as good as the early seasons, I personally don't feel they're terrible. The way I see it is that if fanfiction writers and roleplayers can work up interesting storylines, then the show's writers should be able to. They just need to pay attention to the constructive criticism. I've read fan fiction and role play better than the stuff they're churning out. 1 Link to comment
Willowy April 8, 2017 Share April 8, 2017 Some criticize the writing as always terrible, yet they come back week after week after week after year after year to say that exact thing. I don't understand that, but maybe I'm not meant to. I'm just ecstatic there's a THIRTEENTH SEASON, and I believe it's well-earned. 3 Link to comment
senin April 8, 2017 Share April 8, 2017 8 hours ago, ReidFan said: *shrug* I've enjoyed season 12. So have I !! In fact I am still enjoying it, although the word "enjoy" doesn't seem appropriate , with Reid suffering week after week!!But his performances are so good. And now we have to wait for three weeks!! (Well, for 18 days now) 3 Link to comment
Willowy April 13, 2017 Share April 13, 2017 Winners announced! Congratulations! http://criminalmindsfans.com/contest-criminal-minds-trivia-challenge-3/ Link to comment
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roamyn May 22, 2017 Share May 22, 2017 2 hours ago, Fashionista7 said: http://deadline.com/2017/05/joe-mantegna-matthew-gray-gubler-criminal-minds-return-a-j-cook-kirsten-vangsness-contract-limbo-1202099500/ Spoiler Well, I guess that answers the question of who will or won't survive the S12 cliffhanger. 1 Link to comment
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