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Season IV, Episode 8

Ariana definitely has Sandoval’s number. He wants to go on Peter’s Bulldozer Guys’ Trip, the day after her birthday. She is angry that he wants to go.

She says, “Don’t act like you are concerned, because I know that you aren’t,” or something like that.

Peter could have invited the significant others. 

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Ariana, regarding wanting Sandoval with her the days after her birthday, says to him, defeated, “You’re never going to get it. It’s fine.”

Five years later, Sandoval is frustrated that she hardly ever wants to have sex with him. 

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Season 6

Poor Scheana - it seems like most of the events she has thrown over the last 6 seasons have some sort of dramatic confrontation

I think it was a birthday party where her foot was cut and she needed stitches

It was her engagement party to Shay, where Tom punched Jax in the head

This season - it is her birthday - it is overshadowed by Brittany finding out that Jax had sex with Faith

Season 5 - Kristen and Katie have crawled up Stassi's ass

Season 6 - Kristen and Katie are firmly wedged up Stassi's ass

Season 5 - Sandoval is complaining about lack of sex because Jeremy has moved in

Season 6 - Sandoval is complaining to Jeremy that he and Ariana aren't having sex - Ew

Ariana didn't negate this at the season 5 reunion - they really should have broken up then - instead Tom hangs on so that he can be a part of the cocktail book

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On 7/22/2023 at 10:21 PM, Kiki777 said:

In addition to that, Schwartzie’s sister and father didn’t come to the wedding - she couldn’t get out of work and he was afraid to fly.  I’m sure there was at least a couple month’s notice, enough for the sister to get a couple days off and the father to get alternate transportation to his own son’s wedding.  That was just kinda odd.

There is something definitely weird about this dynamic. We never got to see Tom's dad or sister. They could have arranged to have him travel via train/bus at a later date. Or Tom could have flown to Florida on a weekend trip. Even if Bravo chose not to film, Tom & Katie could have discussed seeing his family and shown pictures.

I'm on Season 6, they instead chose to fly in the triplets and spend money on clothes and makeovers for them. Along with taking them to various events. Doing something for his dad and sister would have been cheaper.

Schwartz has once again cheated and claims amnesia. Katie once again takes it, she gives him ultimatums of not drinking, getting black out drunk, or taking shots. Tom breaks his promise within 24 hours on all 3.

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On 7/25/2023 at 10:53 AM, KungFuBunny said:

Season 5 - Sandoval is complaining about lack of sex because Jeremy has moved in

Season 6 - Sandoval is complaining to Jeremy that he and Ariana aren't having sex - Ew

Thanks for the recaps. Timelines are good as gold. (apologies!)

My first thought after reading this was, glad she wasn't having sex with this guy as he always grossed me out. My second thought was sandy sure does have a playbook. He had the same complaint about Kristen. Apparently, shrooms, molly and secrecy helped keep the love alive with rachel.  No wonder he failed so spectacularly trying to control scamdoval. I thought not having sex was schwartzies storyline. Looks like these "men" with intimacy issues can only have sex deceptively. It will be interesting to see where they take these two next season. Hopefully, it will be without love interests. Nobody will buy it. They have been neutered.

 

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On 7/22/2023 at 9:05 PM, princelina said:

But why would he pay for his "great love" to get engaged to someone else?

Supposedly Sandy and Jax paid for Schwartz's triplet brothers to come to the wedding.  I don't know why Schwartz wouldn't have done that himself.

Schwartz said, and I don't doubt it because Katie said so, as well that he helps his family financially. 

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On 7/24/2023 at 10:44 PM, KungFuBunny said:

Season 6 Episode 3

James brings Raquel in to see Lisa at SUR. He asks Lisa if she could hire Raquel to work at Vanderpump Dogs.

I'm thinking there were rumblings at that time about a Vanderump Dogs spin-off, this is probably why Raquel asked to work there. She really looks like she couldn't find her way out of a paper bag.

See I always thought this was her being crafty - rather than waltzing on to the show and begging to work at Sur (like Brittany) she was trying to get on Lisa's good side by asking to work with the dogs.  But maybe I gave her too much credit 😄

On 7/26/2023 at 5:27 AM, hoodooznoodooz said:

Ariana should have dumped him when he went on the Bulldozer Trip. 

In real life - of course.  What they can't say on the show is that it was part of him being on the show.

7 hours ago, ZettaK said:

Schwartz said, and I don't doubt it because Katie said so, as well that he helps his family financially. 

I'm sure he does - but that doesn't explain why Sandy and Jax paid for the triplets to come to the wedding?

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3 hours ago, princelina said:

I'm sure he does - but that doesn't explain why Sandy and Jax paid for the triplets to come to the wedding?

I thought that Jax and Sandoval paid for the triplets to come to the wedding so they could surprise Schwartz.  I thought it was a sweet gesture (although Jax bitched about how hard it was to get them on the plane) lol.

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1 hour ago, Marigold66 said:

I thought that Jax and Sandoval paid for the triplets to come to the wedding so they could surprise Schwartz.  I thought it was a sweet gesture (although Jax bitched about how hard it was to get them on the plane) lol.

It was a sweet gesture.

I think this is regards to my original post - why did Sandoval spend 15K on James engagement? Schwartz wedding - it was 1500 for the 3 plane tickets, and another 1500 on clothing for the triplets - this bill was split with Jax.

My question was how do you spend 15000 on a guy's engagement who is just a "friend" and only spend 1500 on your BFF's wedding?

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I'm still on season 6.

Bravo really wasn't interested in Raquel at all.

Even the events where Raquel attended, Bravo would film Lala and James walking into the venue together. Or, a scene would happen - but it would be James and Lala talking.

During Season 6, Lala is with Randall but the audience doesn't even see him or knows who he is yet. James is with Raquel but she is a mute

It's almost as though, Bravo wanted James and Lala to be a couple.

LVP is renovating the site that will be TomToms. The agreement was 50K each for 5% each. The Toms were absolute idiots to agree to those terms.They could have made appearances at various clubs - the venue pays for your transportation, housing, food, and on top of that pay 10K to 15K each. Most clubs only require you to appear for 2 to 3 hours. The Toms should have branded themselves - they could have made plenty of cash to then open their own business.

I think LVP gave each of the Tom's $1000 each a week - and said it was payback on their investments. When in actuality, Sandoval was managing the bar and Scwhartz and Sandoval would work the crowds every night.

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16 hours ago, princelina said:

See I always thought this was her being crafty - rather than waltzing on to the show and begging to work at Sur (like Brittany) she was trying to get on Lisa's good side by asking to work with the dogs.  But maybe I gave her too much credit 😄

In real life - of course.  What they can't say on the show is that it was part of him being on the show.

I'm sure he does - but that doesn't explain why Sandy and Jax paid for the triplets to come to the wedding?

I remember that they did it so it could be a surprise for Schwartz. 

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10 hours ago, KungFuBunny said:

The Toms should have branded themselves - they could have made plenty of cash to then open their own business.

I think that's what Sandy wanted to do when he was trying to get them to be "brand ambassadors" for LVP booze.  He just couldn't figure out how to do it, and Schwartz and the Vanderpumps were no help at all.

4 hours ago, ZettaK said:

I remember that they did it so it could be a surprise for Schwartz. 

Yes they did, but it shouldn't have been an issue because if they couldn't afford to come Schwartz should have already seen to it that they had plane tickets.  He was just at his rehearsal dinner all, "It's a shame no one can make it"

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5 hours ago, princelina said:

I think that's what Sandy wanted to do when he was trying to get them to be "brand ambassadors" for LVP booze.  He just couldn't figure out how to do it, and Schwartz and the Vanderpumps were no help at all.

That also would have been an idiot move. When you make appearances at a club - you promote bottle service and whatever liquor they want to hock for an additional commission. LVP booze is not kind of liquor the club goers want to attach themselves to.

LVP really made out on the deal she made. The Toms screwed themselves

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Season 6

Jax is such an asshole to Brittany

He cheats on her, convinces her to take him back. Kentucky Dummy is nice to Jax and plans a birthday trip to Mexico for him. He picks at her - like he wants to start a fight.

They get back to LA and he breaks up with her after they have sex.

Poor Scheana - everyone twists something she said or does and whoever tells the tale is believed and Scheana is automatically the terrible person.

Prior to the 2nd time Jax and Brittany broke up, Scheana invited the girls in a group setting to go out for drinks. She also invited Adam, to boost Brittany's confidence. She wanted to show Brittany there are men out there that think she is hot and would love to date her.

Jax tells Sandoval, Scheana set Brittiany up on a date with Adam. To which Sandoval and Schwartz say - she's so fucked up.

I'm also seeing the change in Lala, now that she is in with Stassi and Katie - Lala will drop Ariana and Scheana.

 

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21 hours ago, princelina said:

I think that's what Sandy wanted to do when he was trying to get them to be "brand ambassadors" for LVP booze.  He just couldn't figure out how to do it, and Schwartz and the Vanderpumps were no help at all.

Yes they did, but it shouldn't have been an issue because if they couldn't afford to come Schwartz should have already seen to it that they had plane tickets.  He was just at his rehearsal dinner all, "It's a shame no one can make it"

It was probably only a story line. And if this was, I suspect Sandoval didn't give the amount he claimed to James for his engagement either (it was another story line). 

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I’m still only on a rewatch of Season IV. 
 

Ariana is leaning into her grudge against Kristen. If someone said that she wished a Mack truck would plow into me, I wouldn’t take it very seriously. Ariana thinks that maybe someone grants Kristen wishes?

James and Jax competing for Lala is entertaining. Brittany is moving in with Jax soon! 

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1 hour ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

I’m still only on a rewatch of Season IV. 
 

Ariana is leaning into her grudge against Kristen. If someone said that she wished a Mack truck would plow into me, I wouldn’t take it very seriously. Ariana thinks that maybe someone grants Kristen wishes?

James and Jax competing for Lala is entertaining. Brittany is moving in with Jax soon! 

There is a scene where Jax takes Lala by the hand and leaves the group - I think they're at the SUR alley.

I think something happened during their "hanging"  out alone.

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7 hours ago, KungFuBunny said:

There is a scene where Jax takes Lala by the hand and leaves the group - I think they're at the SUR alley.

I think something happened during their "hanging"  out alone.

I saw that. I think it was the day James showed up with scratches all over his back. Lala didn’t think it’d bother her if James had sex with another woman. But she was peeved. 
 

Can you remind me what precipitates Jax shifting from wanting to have sex with Lala, to yelling at her that she blows men for Range Rovers? Thank you very much!


 

 

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10 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

Can you remind me what precipitates Jax shifting from wanting to have sex with Lala, to yelling at her that she blows men for Range Rovers? Thank you very much!

Brittany coming to town and finding out that he wanted to have sex with "Lala" 😂

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14 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

I saw that. I think it was the day James showed up with scratches all over his back. Lala didn’t think it’d bother her if James had sex with another woman. But she was peeved. 
 

Can you remind me what precipitates Jax shifting from wanting to have sex with Lala, to yelling at her that she blows men for Range Rovers? Thank you very much!


 

 

I think Lala met Brittany and told her that Jax came on to her and he told her that referring to Brittany as a girlfriend was a stretch.

Brittany asked Jax to come over while Lala was there. He denied EVERYTHING, said he made it clear to Lala that he had a girlfriend. That he never came on to her.

Yelling at her, was to make Brittany believe that Lala was just a thirsty, skanky, lying ho.

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10 hours ago, KungFuBunny said:

I think Lala met Brittany and told her that Jax came on to her and he told her that referring to Brittany as a girlfriend was a stretch.

Brittany asked Jax to come over while Lala was there. He denied EVERYTHING, said he made it clear to Lala that he had a girlfriend. That he never came on to her.

Yelling at her, was to make Brittany believe that Lala was just a thirsty, skanky, lying ho.

Actually - Jax was covering his tracks and told Brittany, in his apartment after she arrived, that "Lala" came on to him, and with a wannabe-reality tv star-famewhore's savvy, Brittany immediately said, "I'll have to talk to her about this" 😄. Then she went to a big social event, asked to talk to "Lala" privately, and brought it up, "Lala" told the truth and Jax denied, denied, denied.  Then what you said 😃

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4 hours ago, carrier76 said:

I don’t understand putting Lala in quotes when plenty of people use nicknames who aren’t getting the quote treatment. Jax, Raquel, Stassi, probably even the Toms. The list goes on…

I hate her, and her stupid not-a-name, and it makes me feel good to do it 🤣

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Season IV, Episode 15: Pucker & Pout

 

Shocking! Schwartz is actually dealing with Stassi the way an in-love, loyal, committed, trustworthy spouse would deal with someone who deeply hurt the love of his life. I have never seen this from him before. 

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Season IV, Episode 20

When Push Comes to Shove

Katie and Schwartz’s engagement party.

Lala: Everything about Kristen pisses me off. I hate her hair. Her outfits are sh- - -y. I hate her shoes. I just don’t think she’s a good person. 
 

The Prosecution rests, your Honor.

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On 8/17/2023 at 4:22 AM, hoodooznoodooz said:

Still watching Season IV.

 

Do we believe James loved Kristen?

 

On 8/22/2023 at 6:48 PM, princelina said:

I think he did - in his way, of course 😄

I think James was in love with Kristen too...Kristen was very motherly - in a very sick way Kristen is the mom he wished he had. He had the drunk out her mind mom but without the nurturing, involved, encouraging mom. I think James, when his mom was drinking, relied on James A LOT - that whole family seemed to have their hands out to James.

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11 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

Season IV, Episode 20

When Push Comes to Shove

Katie and Schwartz’s engagement party.

Lala: Everything about Kristen pisses me off. I hate her hair. Her outfits are sh- - -y. I hate her shoes. I just don’t think she’s a good person. 
 

The Prosecution rests, your Honor.

Yeah while old "Lala" was wearing her hair like she was at that party 🤢

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From Season 10 - I don't remember if this was from the Reunion Part 1, 2, or 3

It was when Tom went into the trailer to talk to Rachel. At some point they left the trailer and Tom didn't want to be filmed as he needed to coach Rachel.

I found this clip of Ben and Ronnie impersonating Tom and spent the last 5 minutes cracking up

 

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I’m rewatching and currently on season 4. Ariana and Tom are still pretending they are the best couple ever and Tom makes me wanna puke. Ariana is not that likeable in season 4 so far.

Kristen is crazy as hell. Her relationship with James is a joke. She forgives him for cheating because I am sure she is cheating too. Definitely was with the trainer Trevor lol.

Shay’s addiction issues are popping up. Kind of feel bad for him. Scheana didn’t really care who she was marrying she just wanted to be married. He probably always had addiction issues she just acted like they weren’t there.

Non surgery LaLa just showed up too and I’m not her biggest fan but they were bitches to her right away. Who cares if she’s going to basically be an escort with some rich guys it’s her life.

Tom had an huge ego to start but you can see it get more and more out of control with each episode. His shitty dance moves we see with his band were always there too. When they pan to him dancing at events it’s such a joke lol. He’s so into himself too and thinks he’s the shit. 

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I’m watching the episode now where they are all in a group talking to Shay about his addiction and pills. The way they are all trying to act surprised about Shay doing drugs and how he gets them from different suppliers is a joke lol. They all do drugs and know how it goes. They just have better control over their own drug taking then Shay lol.

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12 hours ago, Marley said:

I’m watching the episode now where they are all in a group talking to Shay about his addiction and pills. The way they are all trying to act surprised about Shay doing drugs and how he gets them from different suppliers is a joke lol. They all do drugs and know how it goes. They just have better control over their own drug taking then Shay lol.

I’m sure most of them were doing drugs with Shay!

 

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1 hour ago, FozzyBear said:

I’m sure most of them were doing drugs with Shay!

 

Oh 100% they were! Lol that’s why it made me laugh the way they were trying to act all shocked with him about it. Like they are not good actors lol.

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19 hours ago, Marley said:

Oh 100% they were! Lol that’s why it made me laugh the way they were trying to act all shocked with him about it. Like they are not good actors lol.

Wow. Excuse me, these are professional mactors you’re insulting! 😆

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On 8/29/2023 at 7:28 PM, Marley said:

I’m rewatching and currently on season 4. Ariana and Tom are still pretending they are the best couple ever and Tom makes me wanna puke. Ariana is not that likeable in season 4 so far.

Kristen is crazy as hell. Her relationship with James is a joke. She forgives him for cheating because I am sure she is cheating too. Definitely was with the trainer Trevor lol.

Shay’s addiction issues are popping up. Kind of feel bad for him. Scheana didn’t really care who she was marrying she just wanted to be married. He probably always had addiction issues she just acted like they weren’t there.

Non surgery LaLa just showed up too and I’m not her biggest fan but they were bitches to her right away. Who cares if she’s going to basically be an escort with some rich guys it’s her life.

Tom had an huge ego to start but you can see it get more and more out of control with each episode. His shitty dance moves we see with his band were always there too. When they pan to him dancing at events it’s such a joke lol. He’s so into himself too and thinks he’s the shit. 

Scheana was not too selective regarding Brock either. She just wanted to get married- again. 

As for Tom Sandoval, yes he became more arrogant the more famous he became. All of them did. Do you remember Stassi's attitude even in the beginning? But he was more modest in the (distant) past. I don't think he pretended. They all lived in tiny, shitty apartments, and they were so thin during the first season because like Stassi said they didn't have money to eat enough. Even Stassi who was supported by her parents. They were really lucky Bravo offered Lisa Vanderpump the show, or they would soon be back living with their parents in whatever state they were from. For how long one can be a server in LA with nothing else going on? 

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12 hours ago, ZettaK said:

As for Tom Sandoval, yes he became more arrogant the more famous he became. All of them did. Do you remember Stassi's attitude even in the beginning? But he was more modest in the (distant) past. I don't think he pretended. They all lived in tiny, shitty apartments, and they were so thin during the first season because like Stassi said they didn't have money to eat enough. Even Stassi who was supported by her parents. They were really lucky Bravo offered Lisa Vanderpump the show, or they would soon be back living with their parents in whatever state they were from. For how long one can be a server in LA with nothing else going on? 

I wonder what/how they would have done if the show hadn't come along?  When it started they were going on auditions, modeling, Kristen was doing the comedy things and Tom had a band back then.  Of the group Sandy, Kristen and Scheana seemed to have the most hustle.  Once they became famous for this show they slowed their roll.

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I just finished  the season 6 finale episode.

This was the one where LVP, meets Patrick. He is so disgusting. He would NOT stop talking about Lisa's ass. Stassi just kowtows and totally changed her personality to be submissive in her interactions with Patrick.

The Toms are such idiots. They each have 5% vested interest in TomToms, they have no power. LVP is tieing them to her business so that they come in and Schmooze with the customers. She's using them to draw the VPR fan crowd. They learned nothing about the industry as they opened their new spot.

Lala is starting to change. Now that she is in with Stassi, Katie, Kristen - she will dump Scheana & Ariana.

I am laughing at the scenes where we see Raquel. She's with James at events, but Production has no interest in her. If Lala is around, they have James and Lala walk into the venue together.

 

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