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27 minutes ago, Kiki777 said:

That is one thing I agree with Stassi on.  If hell exists, that’s the song that would play there as well.

Speaking of Stassi, I saw a rerun from S6 I think where she mentioned her name is short for Nastassia- a shame because another great way to shorten it would be to call her Nasti.

I totally forgot that Scheana had any other song than Good As Gold. Scheana is still my favorite, and even though she has a terrible voice, she was the one with the most "hustle" of the group.

Stassi doesn't take her writing seriously. She's a bit delusional in that she wants Carrie Bradshaw's life. She doesn't seem to get that even if she had Carrie Bradshaw's job in real life, the salary would be dismal.

Kristen/Katie  - did they want to be actors back then? I haven't seeneither say I need to take off work to go to an audition.

Schwartz - doesn't seem to have any job. Katie is paying for everything

Tom: He was in a band and was fake playing a guitar, then we knew he went on to kill us with his trumpet, and now he's  howling like a cat in heat on a stage.

Stassi - is pretty unrealistic in that she doesn't want Jax to take modelling jobs if there is a girl? She's on crack. If Jax wants to cheat, he's going to meet more girls as a bartender.

Christina Kelly is a total Mean Girl. Add her to the mix of girls that wants to be Stassi's BFF

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On 6/21/2023 at 8:11 PM, KungFuBunny said:

They were in the restaurant celebrating Stassi birthday when Jax walks in.

Stassi tosses a drink on Schwartz, Katie gets up, Stassi's hand goes around Katie's neck, Stassi pushes Katie down, Schwartz douses Stassi's head with beer.

 

I loved when he dumped the beer over Stassi.  I hate Stassi and she was super embarrassed.  “It’s my fucking birthday!”

 

14 hours ago, itsadryheat said:

Rewatching past episodes reminded me how consistently annoying Stassi was. And to think she was paired with Jax. So I asked my younger self, "Why did you continue watching this?  crickets

Stassi was beyond irritable and bitchy, apparently (per her) because she was popping Ritalin like tic tacs.

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Sandoval wants to keep the public persona going.

He decides to show how great of a boyfriend he is. He wants the world to know how vested he is in this relationship.

By taking his girlfriend, who is a vegetarian, to Korean Barbecue. Even if you cook your own stuff in a hot pot - the broth is chicken broth

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I saw a recent interview where Katie was talking about Schwartz. She said when they first started dating, neither one of them wanted to be in a serious relationship. After a few months, Katie asked Tom to be her boyfriend, Schwartz said, I don't think I'd make a good boyfriend. He showed Katie who he was from the start.

On season 2, the girls are having lunch, add Chrsitina Kelly, no Scheana. Katie actually said that she asks Tom for sex and he isn't interested. All of the others gasp, and say all men want sex all the time. Again Schwartz shows Katie who he is.

Katie calls Scheana a whore. Has she called every female other than Stassi and Kristen whores?

Katie got super drunk and says Jax told her that Tom and Ariana hooked up. She also says that Kristen and Jax had sex. She later tells Stassi that the other Katie told her. I think that's a lie. I think Schwartz told her, and the reason she never told Stassi was because she didn't want the group dynamic to change. I think Katie said this when she was drunk because she wants to be Stassi's BFF, she really doesn't want to share the title with Kristen.

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Season 2 - Stassi's birthday in Cabo

After finding Kristen back in bed with Sandoval

Katie to Kristen: So you're going to be one of those sad, pathetic woman who lets their boyfriend treat them like shit.

Seriously Katie?

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6 hours ago, KungFuBunny said:

By taking his girlfriend, who is a vegetarian, to Korean Barbecue. Even if you cook your own stuff in a hot pot - the broth is chicken broth

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That ticked me off soooo much. Then he requests that they barbecue his items rare! Fifteen inches from Kristen’s face. 

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When Tom slugs Jax on the season 2 finale,

I forgot that Scheana starts hitting Tom for ruining her engagement party,

I know Kristen screwed Jax to stick it to Tom, but did she also want to stick it to Stassi?

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3 hours ago, KungFuBunny said:

When Tom slugs Jax on the season 2 finale

Did Kristen, most of her body off camera, also toss her drink at Jax? 
 

True confession: In my freshperson year of college, I dumped my beer on my boyfriend’s d- - che-canoe codependent friend, because he said something incredibly obnoxious. I had no idea that it was such a terrible act!!! He didn’t even get angry at me. He just laughed.

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Schwartz isn't on Reunions Season 1 and 2. He probably didn't get paid or his salary was even less than the others, including Peter.

I'm thinking, once Schwartz was pulling in a VPR salary - he became more overt his in hatred of Katie.

Schwartz went in to SUR to interview for a job as a bartender - he claimed to have bartended in so many places - I guess this was a total lie, I've never seen him making drinks for any of the others in its 10 seasons.

Katie blamed Scheana, for Schwartz not getting the bartending job. Even though, Scheana was with Shay - I think Kristen, Stassi, and Katie felt threatened by her. Not because Scheana would ever make a move for any of their men, but because their men are pigs and and cheat all the time.

 

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Season 3 episode 1

Chef Penny and Lisa come up with a “Sexy” menu for Pump.

This is Miami Girl season.

Jax will get his first nose job. Jax is dating 2 women, Tiffany in Vegas, and Carmen.

Katie is already a bitch to Scheana. Whoever Stassi doesn’t like, she doesn’t like. Because Scheana has become friends with Kristen & Jax, and Stassi wants nothing to do with them. Therefore, Katie and Christina Kelly hate Scheana.

Kristen is bragging about James, who she has been dating for 5 months. James looks like a tall, skinny toddler.

Tom says he used to give James money, because he knew busboys don’t make so much money. He seems mad that James hoarded all of the money Tom gave him to by himself a Beamer.

Scheana: I can’t cry, these eyelashes are mink.

When I saw Chef Penny – I thought of Watch What Crappens and Ronnie’s impression of Penny.

KungFuBunny took a detour in the rabbit hole, and listened to Watch What Crappens from Nov 2014

Notable moments:

Ben: Carmen, you may have seen her in the movie, Chicken Run.

Ronnie: James looks like Captain America, when he just wanted to fight in the war, before he goes into the machine to get all buff.

Ronnie impersonating Kristen: Happy looks good on me. Uhhhhhhhh….

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Season V, Episode 9

Ariana’s birthday trip to Sonoma: Sandoval begins complaining about the lack of sex, resorting to masturbating because Ariana rebuffs his advances.

Ariana explains to Brittany that she had just returned from the gym. She was sweaty and felt unattractive.
 

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@FlyingEgret and all:

I went all the way back and started listening to Watch What Crappens. Great memories, I forgot all about Matt from Yahoo, Ben worked for  Side Blog, and Ronnie worked for TVGasm, I also didn't realize that they all HATED this show when it first started

Season one they don't know all of the names. Stassi is the worst person in the world. Katie and Kristen are horse face one and horse face two.

If you want to listen, it's a bit of a pain in the ass on both Spotify & Apple. There's no listen from oldest to newest. You will have to scroll and scroll and scroll

Season #1 - Episode 55 to Episode 64 - January 9, 2013 to March 12,2013

Back then, they did one podcast a week which covered all of the Bravo shows airing in that time period.

 

 

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Rachel’s second appearance, S5E9, ?

She had no idea how to do her own makeup. Never met a tweezer. 
 

She seems very comfortable and confident when alone with James. No quivery, warbly voice. 


But still very, very, exceptionally dumb. Still no charisma. Still stating the obvious.

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11 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

I completely forgot that Lala was toying with Schwartz, when she first started appearing on VPR.

She said that she wanted to have sex with Schwartz, once his inevitable divorce from Katie finalized. 
 

 

Now did Lala do that because Katie was a Mean Girl from the start? Lala was very pretty before all the shit she did to her face and she had a nice body. Katie tends to give the stink eye to anyone attractive, because she knows Schwartz cheats. Has Katie called Lala a whore yet?

 

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4 hours ago, KungFuBunny said:

Now did Lala do that because Katie was a Mean Girl from the start? Lala was very pretty before all the shit she did to her face and she had a nice body. Katie tends to give the stink eye to anyone attractive, because she knows Schwartz cheats. Has Katie called Lala a whore yet?

 

I think that Katie has called Lala a whore several times already. Katie hates that Lala took her bikini top off. The Toms loved it. 
 

Stassi’s younger brother was annoyingly precocious, but he did tell Stassi to mind her own business with regard to Katie and Scheana.

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10 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

I think that Katie has called Lala a whore several times already. Katie hates that Lala took her bikini top off. The Toms loved it. 
 

Stassi’s younger brother was annoyingly precocious, but he did tell Stassi to mind her own business with regard to Katie and Scheana.

Katie probably hated Lala the second she laid eyes on her. Was Stassi in Camp Hate the new girl? Lala is very reactionary, she probably felt the Mean Girl Evil Eye vibe and flaunted her body to the guys

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3 hours ago, KungFuBunny said:

Katie probably hated Lala the second she laid eyes on her. Was Stassi in Camp Hate the new girl? Lala is very reactionary, she probably felt the Mean Girl Evil Eye vibe and flaunted her body to the guys

Lala’s body is/was perfection. The VPR women absolutely resented that. Lala lashes out, randomly, when she feels a threat. The recipe for The Perfect Storm. 

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1 hour ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

Lala’s body is/was perfection. The VPR women absolutely resented that. Lala lashes out, randomly, when she feels a threat. The recipe for The Perfect Storm. 

Lala's face is also so beautiful. Those piercing blue eyes and perfect bone structure. I can see other women taking one look at her and being jealous. But didn't Lala also enjoy flaunting her body and getting attention a little too much? 

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Ben Mandelker and Ronnie Karam's comments from Watch What Crappens Seasons 1 & 2

Ben: "Stasi" is slang for the German Secret Police

Ronnie talking about Katie and Kristen: Horsie Face 2(Katie) fell through a ceiling that's why her face is messed up, Horsie Face 1(Kristen) was born looking like she fell through a ceiling - that face came naturally.

Ronnie: Christina Kelly looks like the girl from The Ring.

Ronnie and Ben: Do Horsie Face 1 & 2 know that their boyfriends are gay?

Ronnie: Is Stassi's face related to Chelsea Clinton?

Ben: Stassi was having sex with Frank simultaneously having sex with Jax. She knows that Jax had unprotected sex with a porn star in Vegas. And she has the nerve to call Scheana a skank?

 

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Season 2

Peter’s 30th birthday party. Scheana gives him the most unsexy lap dance in front of Shay and drunk Katie starts spewing about how disgusting and inappropriate Scheana is. Calls Scheana a skank and a whore for doing that. Meanwhile she dressed in a skimpy outfit last week, with other women wearing pasties and did burlesque for Guillermo, her married boss in front of Tom.

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Katie really is an a- -hole when she has overindulged. She stuck icing in Scheana’s face. Katie also eats in a very slovenly way.

She looks like she doesn’t care at all about her appearance. Then don’t appear on a TV show!

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On 6/24/2023 at 4:16 PM, KungFuBunny said:

I totally forgot that Scheana had any other song than Good As Gold. Scheana is still my favorite, and even though she has a terrible voice, she was the one with the most "hustle" of the group.

Stassi doesn't take her writing seriously. She's a bit delusional in that she wants Carrie Bradshaw's life. She doesn't seem to get that even if she had Carrie Bradshaw's job in real life, the salary would be dismal.

Kristen/Katie  - did they want to be actors back then? I haven't seeneither say I need to take off work to go to an audition.

Schwartz - doesn't seem to have any job. Katie is paying for everything

Tom: He was in a band and was fake playing a guitar, then we knew he went on to kill us with his trumpet, and now he's  howling like a cat in heat on a stage.

Stassi - is pretty unrealistic in that she doesn't want Jax to take modelling jobs if there is a girl? She's on crack. If Jax wants to cheat, he's going to meet more girls as a bartender.

Christina Kelly is a total Mean Girl. Add her to the mix of girls that wants to be Stassi's BFF

They were all models and actors (even Schwartz). We saw them all modeling in the earlier seasons. Even James, and Lala in later ones. Some were "singers", as well (Sandoval, Scheana, Lala). Laura-Leigh had a large role in a Law & Order episode from 2009. 

And my cat can write better than Stassi.

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33 minutes ago, ZettaK said:

They were all models and actors. We saw them all modeling in the earlier seasons. Even James, and Lala in later ones. Some were "singers", as well (Sandoval,  Scheana). Laura-Leigh had a large role in a Law & Order episode from 2008. 

And my cat can write better than Stassi.

James looked so dorky at his first background player SUR photo shoot. Cross-eyed. TOO skinny, if that’s possible in HIS brain. Moved awkwardly, like a newborn colt. Skittishly. Could have passed as a middle school student. 

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Every chance Stassi, Katie, Kristina Kelly have, they bash Scheana. She’s has no class, all she wants is attention, she’s a whore, she flaunts herself.

Stassi, Katie, KK, swim naked each time for Stassi’s birthday. They also got naked at the SUR calendar photo shoot – it was Stassi’s idea. This means being butt naked in front of an entire production crew. I’m sure there are men in that crew, that are strangers to them.

Stassi and Katie also went and got their asses and vaginas waxed. Stassi spread her ass cheeks open. Katie angled her body so that they could wax her cooch. When it aired of course, it was pixeled out. So, this means not only did the production crew see it, the editors did too.

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6 hours ago, KungFuBunny said:

Every chance Stassi, Katie, Kristina Kelly have, they bash Scheana. She’s has no class, all she wants is attention, she’s a whore, she flaunts herself.

Stassi, Katie, KK, swim naked each time for Stassi’s birthday. They also got naked at the SUR calendar photo shoot – it was Stassi’s idea. This means being butt naked in front of an entire production crew. I’m sure there are men in that crew, that are strangers to them.

Stassi and Katie also went and got their asses and vaginas waxed. Stassi spread her ass cheeks open. Katie angled her body so that they could wax her cooch. When it aired of course, it was pixeled out. So, this means not only did the production crew see it, the editors did too.

But Lala’s a whore when she takes off her bikini top. 
 

I love Scheana’s nose.

She still gets on my nerves though.

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@KungFuBunny, I think that you are correct. It’s an act. I’m watching Season VI, Pride. Logan 1.0 and James look very happy, affectionate, keep stating how much they love each other. Rachel looks quietly ticked off. It looks as if she considers Logan a threat. 
 

Can anyone remind me what gossip the Witches were spreading about Rob?

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Ronnie: Horsie Face 1 has a new boyfriend. That busboy has a horsie face too. No Horsie Face 1, you are not in a stable relationship. You both have horsie faces and live in the stables. Get it right girl!

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On 6/14/2023 at 12:03 PM, carrier76 said:

When Tom later punches Jax in the forehead because of this…. 🤣

Haha I loved that he got his nose!  Jax had said he could take it as long as he didn't touch the nose! 😂

On 6/20/2023 at 1:20 AM, hoodooznoodooz said:

Season II Reunion: Stassi is so angry at Kristen and swears they will NEVER be friends again. 

Does anyone know what precipitated their reconciliation? 

When Stassi returned from New York no one would talk to her except Kristen, who also let Stassi stay with her until she found an apartment.  She helped Stassi work her way back into the show, and Stassi took it.

On 6/23/2023 at 3:25 AM, hoodooznoodooz said:

First reference to Rachel. Sandoval does have a suspicious look on his face. But he also seems pretty happy with Ariana. And Ariana THs that Sandoval and she used to have sex three times a week. Her brother Jeremy moved in. Now they are having sex once every ten days? 

And by the end of the season she had "always" been self-conscious of her "ugly vagina" 🙄

On 6/24/2023 at 11:21 AM, KungFuBunny said:

I wonder if Schwartz was paid for season 1 or 2 or if he was paid did he make less than everyone else. He doesn't work at SUR or any of LVP's other restaurants.They went to Lake Arrowhead - Stassi, Jax, Kristen, Tom, and Katie. No Schwartz.

He wasn't a regular cast member yet - did not appear in the opening credits, so I assume would have been like a "friend of" on the RH shows

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On 6/29/2023 at 1:55 AM, hoodooznoodooz said:

Can anyone remind me what gossip the Witches were spreading about Rob?

Since I finished rewatching all the seasons, this is fresh in my memory!  Apparently someone from Sur saw Rob "making out" with some waitress from another restaurant called Toca Madera and of course Rob denied it.  And then Scheana said a thousand different times that Rob doesn't even like to kiss her so OBVIOUSLY it's not true.  Oh Scheana...

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43 minutes ago, Marigold66 said:

Since I finished rewatching all the seasons, this is fresh in my memory!  Apparently someone from Sur saw Rob "making out" with some waitress from another restaurant called Toca Madera and of course Rob denied it.  And then Scheana said a thousand different times that Rob doesn't even like to kiss her so OBVIOUSLY it's not true.  Oh Scheana...

Ah, yes! Now I remember. 


Did you rewatch OnDemand?!?! The commercials are killing me, Smalls!

I hope Scheana and Brock last. She will be catatonic if it doesn’t. I was “boy crazy” from age 13 to 28. Then I calmed the F down.

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8 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

Did you rewatch OnDemand?!?! The commercials are killing me, Smalls!

Nope, watched all 10 seasons on Peacock, thank goodness!  Still with commercials but minimally.  

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@KungFuBunny

 

I am watching Season III.

LVP gives Stassi the standard advice to kiss & makeup with Kristen or Scheana or whomever. 
 

Stassi no longer works at SUR.

Stassi, cheeky monkey that she is, tells LVP to go have lunch with Brandi.

You are so on point with all of your comments, opinions, etc.!!

 

(I am thinking about how LVP told her broken birds (Ariana, Sandoval, Scheana) that, with time, comes forgiveness, blah blah blah. And you remarked that LVP has been holding a grudge with regard to Dorit, Kyle, etc., for an eternity.)

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53 minutes ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

@KungFuBunny

 

I am watching Season III.

LVP gives Stassi the standard advice to kiss & makeup with Kristen or Scheana or whomever. 
 

Stassi no longer works at SUR.

Stassi, cheeky monkey that she is, tells LVP to go have lunch with Brandi.

You are so on point with all of your comments, opinions, etc.!!

 

(I am thinking about how LVP told her broken birds (Ariana, Sandoval, Scheana) that, with time, comes forgiveness, blah blah blah. And you remarked that LVP has been holding a grudge with regard to Dorit, Kyle, etc., for an eternity.)

I've never thought LVP's wishes of (insert any 2 cast members) to make up came from a place of concern. I always thought it was calculated to keep the season story arc going. Also, because she wanted them all to return for next season.

I also think she had favorites - Stassi was one and the Toms was the other. I think she helped to brand the Toms to be the harmless, lovable Dumb & Dumber Duo.  She created a restaurant/bar named TomToms to cash in on their brand. This is why she stood up for them at the reunion, she's protecting her brand.

I think it's gross as a woman, she went in harder on Raquel then the Toms.

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17 minutes ago, KungFuBunny said:

I've never thought LVP's wishes of (insert any 2 cast members) to make up came from a place of concern. I always thought it was calculated to keep the season story arc going. Also, because she wanted them all to return for next season.

I also think she had favorites - Stassi was one and the Toms was the other. I think she helped to brand the Toms to be the harmless, lovable Dumb & Dumber Duo.  She created a restaurant/bar named TomToms to cash in on their brand. This is why she stood up for them at the reunion, she's protecting her brand.

I think it's gross as a woman, she went in harder on Raquel then the Toms.

The more I learn from you about how disgusting she is with regard to paying individuals and dodging taxes, skirting laws, regulations, etc., the more I realize that Lisa Vanderpump is a huge piece of caca.

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3 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

The more I learn from you about how disgusting she is with regard to paying individuals and dodging taxes, skirting laws, regulations, etc., the more I realize that Lisa Vanderpump is a huge piece of caca.

In Vanderpumpese that would be "tas de merde"

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9 hours ago, KungFuBunny said:

I've never thought LVP's wishes of (insert any 2 cast members) to make up came from a place of concern. I always thought it was calculated to keep the season story arc going. Also, because she wanted them all to return for next season.

I also think she had favorites - Stassi was one and the Toms was the other. I think she helped to brand the Toms to be the harmless, lovable Dumb & Dumber Duo.  She created a restaurant/bar named TomToms to cash in on their brand. This is why she stood up for them at the reunion, she's protecting her brand.

I think it's gross as a woman, she went in harder on Raquel then the Toms.

Haha, like how she'd tell all the other housewives to sort it out?

I remember Lisa Vanderpump saying she's a man in a woman's body and that's why she got on better with men. I'm not surprised a man's woman type would be harder on Raquel than the Toms. 

8 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

The more I learn from you about how disgusting she is with regard to paying individuals and dodging taxes, skirting laws, regulations, etc., the more I realize that Lisa Vanderpump is a huge piece of caca.

You know I always admired how much Lisa put into rescuing animals, and she also feeds the homeless. All that makes her likable in my eyes despite any shit stirring because of her philanthropy. But I'm always suspicious of the insanely rich folks and how honestly they conduct business. 

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This is an aftershow video from Season 7. The video is about 15 minutes. Interesting bit with Raquel describing Dayna as a "ho" (this starts 5 minute 50 second mark)

 

 

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Scheana and Shay’s bachelorette/bachelor party in Miami.

In my opinion, Kristen has redeemed herself 100%. Ariana was very condescending and constantly played the, albeit too-cool-for-school, victim. But Kristen let it go. I still have to rewatch Seasons IV-IX, but I am beginning to understand Kristen better. 

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On 7/6/2023 at 5:24 PM, KungFuBunny said:

This is an aftershow video from Season 7. The video is about 15 minutes. Interesting bit with Raquel describing Dayna as a "ho" (this starts 5 minute 50 second mark)

 

 

Rachel started saying that Dayna was a new server at SUR, in the quiveriest voice ever (I swear that I am not a physically aggressive person, but that voice makes me want to shake her), but Charli interrupts her. 


Rachel always repeats what others say, changing only a few words. She even imitates Charli’s hand/arm motions/movements. 
 

Rachel really looks like she can’t follow the discussion. She’s a lamp missing a bulb, as you said. Maybe even a HomeGoods lamp that they recalled.

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26 minutes ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

Rachel really looks like she can’t follow the discussion. She’s a lamp missing a bulb, as you said. Maybe even a Home Goods lamp that they recalled.

The cord is frayed and there is no available electricity

It's strange, as though Raquel has studied everything in past seasons and uses words that others have said in her own dialogue. Ariana is right, Raquel doesn't have an original thought

 

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On 6/26/2023 at 12:47 PM, KungFuBunny said:

If you want to listen, it's a bit of a pain in the ass on both Spotify & Apple. There's no listen from oldest to newest. You will have to scroll and scroll and scroll

There is on Spotify.  When you are on the Watch What Crappens page, next to "all episodes" there is a "sort" button.  Click on that and it opens a drop down list - the bottom option is to change sort by date.

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2 hours ago, lasu said:

There is on Spotify.  When you are on the Watch What Crappens page, next to "all episodes" there is a "sort" button.  Click on that and it opens a drop down list - the bottom option is to change sort by date.

Thank you lasu!

I don't have access to the sort button, probably because I don't have the premium plan.

 

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Season 3

I know there has been talk that James got on the show just as Raquel did. I don't agree. Prior to James dating Kristen, he was working at SUR, and was good friends with Max (LVPs son). I think Kristen specifically targeted James, because she didn't want Tom to have a room mate. If there was no one to pay half the rent then Tom might take her back. I do think James had genuine feelings for Kristen, while Kristen looked to James as a weapon to use.

While they were down in Miami for Scheana's bachelorette party, Kristen actually asked Tom if they had a chance without James in the picture. Watching how Kristen treats James is horrible, all she wants to do is talk about Tom and Ariana. There are scenes of Kristen getting ready in a room - I assume this is James bedroom in his parents home. Is that where they lived at the beginning of their relationship? While, I think some of the things James has said is viscous and horrible, especially towards women, he really is like a toddler who lashes out. I think Kristen makes him very insecure, and he wants to keep up with the other guys with his drinking.

I think James would have been on the show if he was Tom's room mate as opposed to Kristen's boyfriend. He would have been better off.

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I agree - James was even in the "photo shoot" at the end of season 2 - you can see and hear him in the background.

I myself recently caught a season 3 episode and Scheana said something so great I wrote it down for you all!

"Kristen, no one thinks you're crazy because you believed Jax about the Miami Girl.  People think you're crazy because you slept with your boyfriend's best friend, got your friend punched in the face by a stripper, had some girl fly across the country to confront Sandy, yelled at Lisa, got fired, and punched your boyfriend at a wedding!" 😂😂😂

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Watching Season 3

It is actually Sandoval, who starts breaking bro code by talking abut Jax's shenanigans on a trip Tiffany arranged. It is Sandoval who says what a horrible person Jax is to do this to his girlfriend. Sandoval brings it up again a a dinner for Scheana and Shay. Sandoval also brings Jax's old friend John who helped him with his modeling career.

Schwartz is cowering hoping none of his indiscretions are brought up on camera.

Jax then talks about Miami Girl and Sandoval shoots him down. Saying Jax makes up stories about him when he is caught.

I think Jax started spilling because for 3 seasons - he was the creep of the show with Sandoval pointing out what a creep Jax was. Jax was tired of being the only one exposed. This was the beginning of the downfall of the Sandoval/Jax relationship.

Schwartz is just as bad - he is so manipulative and is using Katie to fund his life. He throws some love towards Katie only when his security is threatened. He also is honing his persona - the indecisive, laid back, just wants everybody to get along, isn't really into sex. He never wants to have sex with Katie and uses this as the reason why he'd never cheat - only kisses other girls here and there. That's his cover.

Katie told LVP that if Schwartz were to choose between Jax and Katie, he's choose Jax. It's sad how it's taken Katie 12 years to leave him. I still think she will try to be friends with him.

 

 

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