Velocity23 March 3, 2017 Share March 3, 2017 I have been thinking they gonna exchange some of the originals for the actors they hired in s2. Honestly James looks like such a choice to me. Link to comment
Morrigan2575 March 3, 2017 Share March 3, 2017 3 minutes ago, Velocity23 said: Did I miss that casting for Maximus? Link to comment
Starfish35 March 3, 2017 Share March 3, 2017 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Morrigan2575 said: Did I miss that casting for Maximus? Maximus casting: http://tvline.com/2017/02/21/marvels-the-inhumans-iwan-rheon-cast-maximus-abc/ Also Ken Leung as Karnak: http://tvline.com/2017/03/02/marvels-inhumans-casts-ken-leung-karnak-abc/ Edited March 3, 2017 by Starfish35 Link to comment
yellowfred March 3, 2017 Share March 3, 2017 I think, at the end of the day, cutting the order for Supergirl almost in half is more disruptive than just not ordering extra episodes of Legends of Tomorrow. As far as actor salaries, I wouldn't be surprised if they're a bit higher than the CW's usual, but I doubt it's that significant. I haven't heard much about this specific instance, so I could be wrong, but CBS doesn't usually pay actors that much at first, especially if they're not expected to be a big draw. The main reason that CBS pays so many high salaries now is that they have a lot of long running shows, and the actors have been able to negotiate for a lot more over time. 1 Link to comment
Velocity23 March 3, 2017 Share March 3, 2017 1 minute ago, yellowfred said: ed if they're a bit higher than the CW's usual, but I doubt it's that significant. I haven't heard much about this specific instance, so I could be wrong, but CBS doesn't usually pay actors that much at first, especially if they're not expected to be a big draw. The main reason that CBS pays so many high salaries now is that they have a lot of long running shows, and the actors have been able to negotiate for a lot more over time. Isnt the CWs starting pay around 20 -30k? This is from 2012! Drama (per episode) Mark Harmon (NCIS): $500,000 Ellen Pompeo (Grey's Anatomy): $350,000 Kevin Bacon (The Following): $175,000 Lucy Liu (Elementary): $125,000 Stephen Amell (Arrow): $30,000 http://www.tvguide.com/news/tvs-highest-paid-stars-1051754/ Link to comment
bijoux March 3, 2017 Share March 3, 2017 Grey's and NCIS were long running shows by 2012, weren't they? So that would also have affected Pompeo's and Harmon's salaries. Link to comment
Velocity23 March 3, 2017 Share March 3, 2017 (edited) In 2014 JL Martin from the Flash was listed as getting 100k per episode. http://www.tvguide.com/galleries/highest-paid-tv-stars-2014-1085693/photo/6642de66-8c4b-42d1-82be-722291852d26/ Edited March 3, 2017 by Velocity23 Link to comment
Starfish35 March 3, 2017 Share March 3, 2017 17 minutes ago, Velocity23 said: I have been thinking they gonna exchange some of the originals for the actors they hired in s2. Honestly James looks like such a choice to me. Yeah I would not be surprised at all to lose James this season. If we do, that leaves, what, four S1 regulars? Kara (obviously), Alex, J'onn, and Winn? Just now, Velocity23 said: In 2014 JL Martin from the Flash was listed as getting 100k per episode http://www.tvguide.com/galleries/highest-paid-tv-stars-2014-1085693/photo/6642de66-8c4b-42d1-82be-722291852d26/ Wow. Link to comment
Velocity23 March 3, 2017 Share March 3, 2017 3 minutes ago, bijoux said: Grey's and NCIS were long running shows by 2012, weren't they? So that would also have affected Pompeo's and Harmon's salaries. Yeah and one has to remember NCIS actors also get a share from the syndication. So that increases their pay. 1 Link to comment
Morrigan2575 March 3, 2017 Share March 3, 2017 20 minutes ago, Starfish35 said: Maximus casting: http://tvline.com/2017/02/21/marvels-the-inhumans-iwan-rheon-cast-maximus-abc/ Also Ken Leung as Karnak: http://tvline.com/2017/03/02/marvels-inhumans-casts-ken-leung-karnak-abc/ Oh man, I don't know if I'll ever be able to watch Iwan Rheon and NOT see Ramsey Snow. Link to comment
wonderwall March 3, 2017 Share March 3, 2017 It's been speculated that Joe might die on the Flash... Do you guys think that they'd actually do this? Like, Barry will save Iris but Joe will die as a consequence to sort of balance everything out again 1 Link to comment
Starfish35 March 3, 2017 Share March 3, 2017 (edited) I would have said no before. In the first couple of seasons the Barry/Joe relationship was kind of the heart of the show IMO, kind of like the Kara/Alex relationship is for Supergirl. But....while I haven't been watching this season, I've read some comments that they haven't been doing so much with them this year. So.... maybe? *shrug* Edited March 3, 2017 by Starfish35 Link to comment
wonderwall March 3, 2017 Share March 3, 2017 14 minutes ago, Starfish35 said: But....while I haven't been watching this season, I've read some comments that they haven't been doing so much with them this year. So.... maybe? *shrug* Yup... What he does really doesn't justify his salary either. 100k is just excessive. Yikes. But also - Joe is more loved than anyone else on that show bar Cisco. So losing him would be damaging to the ratings so who knows... Link to comment
Starfish35 March 3, 2017 Share March 3, 2017 3 minutes ago, wonderwall said: Yup... What he does really doesn't justify his salary either. 100k is just excessive. Yikes. But also - Joe is more loved than anyone else on that show bar Cisco. So losing him would be damaging to the ratings so who knows... Yeah Joe is really a core character - it's hard to see them cutting him. But....we were discussing the Barry/Iris (presumed) engagement earlier. Barry saving Iris at the cost of her father's life might be a sufficient ship stall for a season or two. Link to comment
Velocity23 March 3, 2017 Share March 3, 2017 Maybe it will come full circle at the end of the Flashpoint storyline. Werent the West men impacted the most by the Flashpoint in episode. Joe being a drunk and Wally was hurt so Barry decided to go back. Link to comment
Starfish35 March 3, 2017 Share March 3, 2017 (edited) Flash hasn't killed off a regular since Eddie, right? I guess that's not evidence one way or the other. I'm just thinking. They're not like Arrow that seems to have to have at least one major death every year. Legends killed off Snart at the end of their first season. Supergirl didn't kill off anyone. I don't know. Hard to predict. Edited March 3, 2017 by Starfish35 Link to comment
Cleanqueen March 3, 2017 Share March 3, 2017 Iris sort of replaced Joe's position in Barry's life and Joe talks more to Wally this year. It's why I miss season 1, the Joe and Barry scenes were my favorite. 1 Link to comment
wonderwall March 3, 2017 Share March 3, 2017 I feel like losing Joe would have more of an impact on the show's ratings than losing Iris... This is even taking into consideration of the show potentially killing a black woman. I don't want them to kill Iris... But I do feel like yeah, losing Joe would have a larger impact because he's much more integral/relevant to the series than Iris is at the moment (who is simply just the love interest) Link to comment
ruby24 March 3, 2017 Share March 3, 2017 His salary is that high because of his veteran TV actor status. All those years as the star of Law & Order. Tom Cavanagh's is similar. I don't think they'll kill Joe. If anyone dies it'll be Julian- no way Tom Felton sticks around past this season. Or HR, since a doppelgänger Wells is always replaceable. 4 Link to comment
wonderwall March 3, 2017 Share March 3, 2017 I mean... They could always Moira Joe... Anything is possible in this 'verse. Also, I'd have figured HR/Tom Cavanagh is the Malcolm of the Flash in which the writers want him around for whatever reason even though he doesn't do much or add much to the series. 1 Link to comment
ruby24 March 3, 2017 Share March 3, 2017 (edited) Yeah, but killing Joe would be too heavy and I don't think The Flash wants to go that dark. Kreisberg admitted recently the reason they killed off Henry was because they weren't that invested in Barry and Henry's relationship (which was pretty obvious from the way they shipped him off to the woods after he got out of jail). Even though it's true that they've cut down on the Barry/Joe scenes now that he and Iris are together, they still have the connection, so I'm predicting that JLM is safe on this show for a long time. Edited March 3, 2017 by ruby24 1 Link to comment
lemotomato March 3, 2017 Share March 3, 2017 The Flash is CW's golden child and its best performer. I doubt they have to worry about sticking to a budget like the other shows do. Link to comment
Velocity23 March 3, 2017 Share March 3, 2017 Depending how many Gorilla Grodd episode they want to do next season Link to comment
dtissagirl March 3, 2017 Share March 3, 2017 Casting budget is usually separate from episodic budget, so losing an actor doesn't necessarily mean that money goes back into the show. It depends on what kind of contract each actor has, and with which company. 3 Link to comment
ruby24 March 3, 2017 Share March 3, 2017 They probably won't be able to resist doing Gorilla Grodd vs King Shark next year. 2 Link to comment
Morrigan2575 March 3, 2017 Share March 3, 2017 I don't know if they'll kill off Joe, The Flash doesn't really seem to follow that theme. It seems more happy/family oriented. That's not to say it won't happen just that they don't follow the format that Arrow does. Wells is safe, he's like a shiny new toy for them, every season they get to play around with a new/different version of Wells. Link to comment
Cleanqueen March 3, 2017 Share March 3, 2017 at the end of the day, it doesn't matter who they kill for plot purposes, they'll always find a way to bring them back and to me that's why I say Iris can potentially die but that a different Iris would try to fill her purpose. 1 Link to comment
ruby24 March 3, 2017 Share March 3, 2017 2 minutes ago, Cleanqueen said: at the end of the day, it doesn't matter who they kill for plot purposes, they'll always find a way to bring them back and to me that's why I say Iris can potentially die but that a different Iris would try to fill her purpose. I could see this happening on a temporary basis at some point down the line. I always thought a good story they could do to separate Barry and Iris for a while (without breaking them up) would be a riff on her comics background where she gets lost in the future. Then while she's gone one of her dopplegangers from another Earth replaces her for a bit. 3 Link to comment
Lokiberry March 3, 2017 Share March 3, 2017 5 minutes ago, Morrigan2575 said: I don't know if they'll kill off Joe, The Flash doesn't really seem to follow that theme. It seems more happy/family oriented. That's not to say it won't happen just that they don't follow the format that Arrow does. Wells is safe, he's like a shiny new toy for them, every season they get to play around with a new/different version of Wells. They've killed Barry's mom, like, how many times already? And Henry? Joe is definitely not safe; especially now that Barry is in a relationship with Iris. In S1, Barry's primary emotional connection/bonding was with Joe, and it was pretty much the same in s2, but that's changed now. Iris has taken the place of Joe as his primary screen partner. This was made clear when it was Joe who got lied to, and kept out of the loop, this season. Link to comment
Cleanqueen March 3, 2017 Share March 3, 2017 13 minutes ago, ruby24 said: I could see this happening on a temporary basis at some point down the line. I always thought a good story they could do to separate Barry and Iris for a while (without breaking them up) would be a riff on her comics background where she gets lost in the future. Then while she's gone one of her dopplegangers from another Earth replaces her for a bit. Yup and it would be interesting to see that play out for a bit. Fringe in a way did that and I loved Fauxlivia playing Peter for a while before he figured it out. Link to comment
Morrigan2575 March 3, 2017 Share March 3, 2017 14 minutes ago, Lokiberry said: They've killed Barry's mom, like, how many times already? And Henry? Joe is definitely not safe; especially now that Barry is in a relationship with Iris. In S1, Barry's primary emotional connection/bonding was with Joe, and it was pretty much the same in s2, but that's changed now. Iris has taken the place of Joe as his primary screen partner. This was made clear when it was Joe who got lied to, and kept out of the loop, this season. When did I ever say Joe was safe? Link to comment
kismet March 4, 2017 Share March 4, 2017 So the musical does sorta look like a mess. I guess I have to remember to watch the CW this week. Because it looks like a fun mess with no nutritional value, like nachos. Also, after reading the synopsis - I truly feel like the solution to the problem in the musical crossover is simply True Love's Kiss. Link to comment
BkWurm1 March 4, 2017 Share March 4, 2017 16 hours ago, wonderwall said: It's been speculated that Joe might die on the Flash... Do you guys think that they'd actually do this? Like, Barry will save Iris but Joe will die as a consequence to sort of balance everything out again 14 hours ago, Morrigan2575 said: I don't know if they'll kill off Joe, The Flash doesn't really seem to follow that theme. It seems more happy/family oriented. That's not to say it won't happen just that they don't follow the format that Arrow does. Wells is safe, he's like a shiny new toy for them, every season they get to play around with a new/different version of Wells. HR seems like a likely candidate to me. Like a unexpected heroic sacrifice. Then of course next year someone new. 2 Link to comment
Morrigan2575 March 4, 2017 Share March 4, 2017 (edited) 22 minutes ago, BkWurm1 said: HR seems like a likely candidate to me. Like a unexpected heroic sacrifice. Then of course next year someone new. Oh yeah, I have no doubt they could/would kill HR. Bad wording, I meant TC is safe, since they'd just pop in a new version of Wells for S4. Edited March 4, 2017 by Morrigan2575 1 Link to comment
GHScorpiosRule March 4, 2017 Share March 4, 2017 15 hours ago, Morrigan2575 said: Wells is safe, he's like a shiny new toy for them, every season they get to play around with a new/different version of Wells. The only reason we keep getting a different Wells each season is because Cavanaugh stated that would be the only way he'd stay with the show-to play a different character each season. So when we lose HR, be it by death or him going to another Earth, next season will be another Wells. Unless Cavanaugh says nope, I'm done. Link to comment
BkWurm1 March 4, 2017 Share March 4, 2017 38 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said: The only reason we keep getting a different Wells each season is because Cavanaugh stated that would be the only way he'd stay with the show-to play a different character each season. So when we lose HR, be it by death or him going to another Earth, next season will be another Wells. Unless Cavanaugh says nope, I'm done. I know not everyone has warmed up to HR but I'm fond of him. And I'm fond of Harry. And I really liked the scenes this last week between Harry and H.R. So if I had my vote, I'd not kill any of them and just let all the versions of Wells stack up and give them their own episode. I'd watch that. ;) 3 Link to comment
kismet March 4, 2017 Share March 4, 2017 (edited) Well if the kill Joe, I'm definitely not returning to Flash. I barely watch it now. The Grodd episode looked like so much fun and then I completely forgot to watch it. And what's the point of catching up with it? I did always love Joe and his paternal chemistry with the cast. What can I say I'm a sucker for Jesse L. Martin. So if I did ever return to the show it would be for the character interactions and Joe's would be top on the list. Without him, I lose a major reason & element that helps me get through the juvenile simplicity of the show. As for HR, never liked him. He is the worst of the TC's interpretations. They could get rid of him and I'd be ok with it. Fingers crossed they just do better with the new TC version. I think it's repetitive and dumb to replace his character every year, but it's not the dumbest thing the show does. Honestly, perhaps I'm getting more sensitive in my aging self. Or maybe I just see too much actual death at work. But I'm getting seriously done with the Flarrowverse constantly killing people off every season for no good or necessary reason. If you are done with a character just put them on a bus/plane/train/worm hole dimension, whatever.... It gets very hard to see them kill people off for unexplored pain of the remaining characters. I think it becomes very desensitizing to the fact that people do die tragically and young everyday. I just wish they could fuel their shows on a more positive energy than just death & sorrow all the time. And Flash may be the more upbeat of the shows, but it's driven by Barry's grief and guilt - so I still feel the residual negative emotions attached with that. Edited March 4, 2017 by kismet 1 Link to comment
Mellowyellow March 4, 2017 Share March 4, 2017 6 hours ago, BkWurm1 said: I know not everyone has warmed up to HR but I'm fond of him. And I'm fond of Harry. And I really liked the scenes this last week between Harry and H.R. So if I had my vote, I'd not kill any of them and just let all the versions of Wells stack up and give them their own episode. I'd watch that. ;) TOOOOOOOOTALLLLLY AGREEEEEEE!!!!! That would be so awesome! A bunch of Wells running around! I love Tom C! 2 Link to comment
Chaser March 6, 2017 Share March 6, 2017 On 3/2/2017 at 5:42 PM, dtissagirl said: I saw Logan earlier today, and I'm pretty sure it was the very best piece of misery porn I've ever watched. I never wanna see it again. Literally my response when my Dad asked me what I thought. "Great. Never watching that again." Hurts my heart to see the characters like that. 1 Link to comment
BkWurm1 March 6, 2017 Share March 6, 2017 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Chaser said: Literally my response when my Dad asked me what I thought. "Great. Never watching that again." Hurts my heart to see the characters like that. Is the pain worth it? I'm really on the fence. I mean, knowing what you know now, would you have warned yourself to not watch? Edited March 6, 2017 by BkWurm1 1 Link to comment
Chaser March 6, 2017 Share March 6, 2017 I wouldn't warn myself not to see it, I would just warn myself. Lol 1 Link to comment
emarasmoak March 6, 2017 Share March 6, 2017 Guys, can anyone help me with something? I think that in summer 2016 it was initially announced that Arrow, Flash and Supergirl would have 22 episodes, but I am under the impression that this was a mistake and that they later announced that it would be 23 for all three. Is this correct? If it is, can anybody send a link for the correction? I am particularly interested in knowing if Supergirl season 2 has 22 or 23 episodes. Link to comment
dtissagirl March 6, 2017 Share March 6, 2017 8 hours ago, BkWurm1 said: Is the pain worth it? I'm really on the fence. I mean, knowing what you know now, would you have warned yourself to not watch? I would have watched even if I had been completely spoiled, yes. But I can't see myself REwatching, like I do frequently with a bunch of other X-Men movies. But those are all light and fluffly compared to how hard and dreary Logan was. 1 Link to comment
Velocity23 March 6, 2017 Share March 6, 2017 A writer for Arrow confirmed 23 episodes for Arrow and Flash. 1 Link to comment
Chaser March 6, 2017 Share March 6, 2017 Going to thru KP's tweets for 5x20 and I found a few about KC's LOT appearance. He said it was a vision. 1 Link to comment
kismet March 6, 2017 Share March 6, 2017 57 minutes ago, Chaser said: Going to thru KP's tweets for 5x20 and I found a few about KC's LOT appearance. He said it was a vision. Makes sense. The lack of build-up to her return really makes it seem like a vision or dream is the most she will get. Perhaps, a tiny flashback. It doesn't appear to be that critical to the show that she is returning. It will probably just help complete Sara's emotional arc this season. Could have been done without KC, but they got that multi-show contract they need to use, so vision we get. 1 Link to comment
Primal Slayer March 7, 2017 Share March 7, 2017 I am surprised that they havent given Diggle a version of Alex's gun after we've heard so many times he is supposed to get an upgrade in weaponry. 1 Link to comment
kismet March 7, 2017 Share March 7, 2017 7 minutes ago, Primal Slayer said: I am surprised that they havent given Diggle a version of Alex's gun after we've heard so many times he is supposed to get an upgrade in weaponry. Didn't you hear guns are bad? :) A very special episode told me so. Don't watch Supergirl anymore, so can't comment on the gun. But it doesn't surprise me how slow they are to upgrade Dig's weaponry. It took years for a costume upgrade and then the whole mask debacle. I was actually surprised when they took time out of their newbie haze to actually fix his helmet issues. Who knows though, may be a new gun is in store for Dig in s6. Link to comment
kismet March 7, 2017 Share March 7, 2017 Is tomorrow night the big musical crossover or is it next week? Link to comment
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