Iju March 20, 2018 Share March 20, 2018 32 minutes ago, catrox14 said: He's not a "ladies man" in the way I think Jensen was suggesting. Like the suave, debonir hand kissing type guy. When has Dean ever kissed a ladies hand other than in the pics for Scooby. That's not how he rolls. ah okay, i must have misunderstood him then. Link to comment
catrox14 March 20, 2018 Share March 20, 2018 1 minute ago, Iju said: ah okay, i must have misunderstood him then. YOu're not alone. I've seen some Twitter chatter that folks took it a way that I don't think he intended. Link to comment
Iju March 20, 2018 Share March 20, 2018 5 minutes ago, catrox14 said: YOu're not alone. I've seen some Twitter chatter that folks took it a way that I don't think he intended. what they thought he didn't like women or something ._. Link to comment
gonzosgirrl March 20, 2018 Share March 20, 2018 (edited) I guess people really do hear/see what they want to hear and see. Substitute the word 'charmer' for 'ladies' man' and you'll get the proper meaning. 7 minutes ago, Iju said: what they thought he didn't like women or something ._. It's hard to imagine knowing this show exists without having heard of the segment of fandom that is certain Dean is gay or bi, or simply Cas-sexual, but since it seems you haven't, then yes, that's what they think. Jensen has always maintained that he does not see or portray Dean as anything but straight, but it doesn't stop people from believing what they want to (nor should it). Edited March 20, 2018 by gonzosgirrl Link to comment
Iju March 20, 2018 Share March 20, 2018 30 minutes ago, gonzosgirrl said: I guess people really do hear/see what they want to hear and see. Substitute the word 'charmer' for 'ladies' man' and you'll get the proper meaning. It's hard to imagine knowing this show exists without having heard of the segment of fandom that is certain Dean is gay or bi, or simply Cas-sexual, but since it seems you haven't, then yes, that's what they think. Jensen has always maintained that he does not see or portray Dean as anything but straight, but it doesn't stop people from believing what they want to (nor should it). well fandom's gonna think what fandom's gonna think. nobody can change that lol thanks for the heads up btw 1 Link to comment
bethy March 20, 2018 Share March 20, 2018 38 minutes ago, gonzosgirrl said: It's hard to imagine knowing this show exists without having heard of the segment of fandom that is certain Dean is gay or bi, or simply Cas-sexual, I think there are a ton of people who know that the show exists and are completely unaware of fandom generally, nevermind the factions within it. 3 Link to comment
gonzosgirrl March 20, 2018 Share March 20, 2018 9 minutes ago, bethy said: I think there are a ton of people who know that the show exists and are completely unaware of fandom generally, nevermind the factions within it. True enough, I suppose. In any case, it surprises me, thus my post. Link to comment
trxr4kids March 20, 2018 Share March 20, 2018 33 minutes ago, bethy said: I think there are a ton of people who know that the show exists and are completely unaware of fandom generally, nevermind the factions within it. I don't follow SM, this forum is the only part of fandom I participate in, I'm generally oblivious to factions. That being said last summer as we were having a family gathering, one of my nephews and his wife and other nephew along with my kids, MiL and FiL and I were discussing what we're watching/binge watching and one nephew said he was thinking of starting a SPN watch once he was caught up with GoT, at which point my daughter said stop at S3 or S5 and my niece said, is that the one with the fandom that (she was clearly implying wincest judging by the way she cut her eyes back and forth between my nephews ), I cut her off with yes that's the one, because hello my mother in law was right there (she's 86). Of course she asked about it but between my niece, my daughter and myself we managed to distract her. Never underestimate the power of a dip recipe. 1 Link to comment
gonzosgirrl March 20, 2018 Share March 20, 2018 17 minutes ago, trxr4kids said: I don't follow SM, this forum is the only part of fandom I participate in, I'm generally oblivious to factions. That being said last summer as we were having a family gathering, one of my nephews and his wife and other nephew along with my kids, MiL and FiL and I were discussing what we're watching/binge watching and one nephew said he was thinking of starting a SPN watch once he was caught up with GoT, at which point my daughter said stop at S3 or S5 and my niece said, is that the one with the fandom that (she was clearly implying wincest judging by the way she cut her eyes back and forth between my nephews ), I cut her off with yes that's the one, because hello my mother in law was right there (she's 86). Of course she asked about it but between my niece, my daughter and myself we managed to distract her. Never underestimate the power of a dip recipe. This made me giggle. I wonder if the kids will recall that conversation one day when they're old enough to watch the show. I'm a recent fan (while S10 was airing live) and I heard of a-gif-for-everything, Wincest and Destiel long before I ever saw a single scene of the show. 1 Link to comment
MysteryGuest March 20, 2018 Share March 20, 2018 5 hours ago, gonzosgirrl said: I have nothing against any ship, whether I 'see' it or not. After discovering people that ship Harry Potter with Snape, I stopped questioning the wtf of it all. LOL! What I have an issue with is people who take their ship beyond their imaginations and drag the real life actors into it - at least the ones who've demonstrated that they are not into it. And then proceeding to beat them up with it. No es bueno. I have to say this drives me batty, as well. Fantasize all you want, but I get the distinct impression some of these people truly believe what they're saying. And it's not the Destiel fans, but the "Jensen/Jared are a closet couple for 13 years, who've paid Gen and Danneel to beard for them and bear them 6 children" faction. I worry about those people. 2 Link to comment
trxr4kids March 20, 2018 Share March 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, gonzosgirrl said: This made me giggle. I wonder if the kids will recall that conversation one day when they're old enough to watch the show. The kids are all in their 20's, the youngest present my daughter who had just turned 21. My great nieces and nephews were not there since it was a smallish family thing and since the oldest of them is 10, I doubt they would have been listening to anything the old people were talking about since they're constantly on they're tablets, including the 2 yr olds, excepting when swimming or mashing play do in and on random surfaces. ; ) Link to comment
trxr4kids March 20, 2018 Share March 20, 2018 13 minutes ago, MysteryGuest said: And it's not the Destiel fans, but the "Jensen/Jared are a closet couple for 13 years, who've paid Gen and Danneel to beard for them and bear them 6 children" faction. I worry about those people. I blame this forum for me even finding out about them, lol. 1 Link to comment
catrox14 March 20, 2018 Share March 20, 2018 38 minutes ago, MysteryGuest said: Fantasize all you want, but I get the distinct impression some of these people truly believe what they're saying. i think folks can make a solid case for subtextual Destiel. We're not crazy. :) At least not for that reason. The tinhats are different than shippers. 1 Link to comment
trxr4kids March 20, 2018 Share March 20, 2018 5 minutes ago, catrox14 said: i think folks can make a solid case for subtextual Destiel. We're not crazy. :) At least not for that reason. The tinhats are different than shippers. I'm not a shipper although I frequently read and enjoy destiel fanfic, mostly because there's an abundance of it. I don't expect or even want the show to ever go there but I agree after reading people's viewpoints about the subtext and the entire way the Dean/Cas relationship was framed the show set itself up for it, IMO. 2 Link to comment
DeeDee79 March 21, 2018 Share March 21, 2018 (edited) 7 hours ago, gonzosgirrl said: I agree - unfortunately those are the ones who insist on questioning Jensen about it and then getting mad at his response when it doesn't validate them. Yes! This so, so much. I was very irritated reading fan reactions to Jensen saying that Destiel doesn't exist as him being a homophobe. That's crap. 1 hour ago, catrox14 said: i think folks can make a solid case for subtextual Destiel. We're not crazy. :) At least not for that reason. The tinhats are different than shippers. Personally I see subtext with Dean and everyone. I blame Jensen for having so much chemistry with damn near everybody that he interacts with on screen *shrugs* My main problem with Destiel is that I like the thought of Dean having a best friend outside of Sam and I've never seen their relationship as romantic. But I don't knock anyone that does. Edited March 21, 2018 by DeeDee79 5 Link to comment
catrox14 March 21, 2018 Share March 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, DeeDee79 said: Personally I see subtext with Dean and everyone HA! Me too. I think the difference is the way Dean and Cas are often framed in the show that can be read as a romantic pairing. I won't belabor that. Just saying that folks who read it as Destiel it's beyond chemistry between the actors. 3 Link to comment
DeeDee79 March 21, 2018 Share March 21, 2018 2 hours ago, trxr4kids said: I blame this forum for me even finding out about them, lol. I found out through Tumblr. Fandom can be a scary place. 2 Link to comment
DeeDee79 March 21, 2018 Share March 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, catrox14 said: HA! Me too. I think the difference is the way Dean and Cas are often framed in the show that can be read as a romantic pairing. I won't belabor that. Just saying that folks who read it as Destiel it's beyond chemistry between the actors. Another thing that irritates me about Destiel beyond whether or not I see the chemistry between them is some of the things that I've read online from (extreme) Destiel shippers. The ones that want Jared off of the show so it can be all Dean and Cas all of the time and the ones that say "start watching at season 4; that's when it's worth watching". Not to say that all fans ( or you! ) are like that. I just don't understand those that are. 3 Link to comment
MysteryGuest March 21, 2018 Share March 21, 2018 So tonight is Paley Fest? I guess we'll know soon enough if any news is released about the future (or lack of a future) of the show. I still can't imagine them talking about the end of the series amidst all of this really positive media coverage, but who knows. I wonder if we'll hear anything about Jensen's upcoming new role? 1 Link to comment
Jonesy March 21, 2018 Share March 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, Casseiopeia said: The trio! Should be a great SPN night! 2 Link to comment
catrox14 March 21, 2018 Share March 21, 2018 4 minutes ago, DeeDee79 said: Another thing that irritates me about Destiel beyond whether or not I see the chemistry between them is some of the things that I've read online from (extreme) Destiel shippers. The ones that want Jared off of the show so it can be all Dean and Cas all of the time and the ones that say "start watching at season 4; that's when it's worth watching". Not to say that all fans ( or you! ) are like that. I just don't understand those that are. Well, that is extreme. I've never seen those calls but they'll never get that. LOL. . Most Destiel shippers are not in that vein. 2 Link to comment
Jonesy March 21, 2018 Share March 21, 2018 4 minutes ago, MysteryGuest said: So tonight is Paley Fest? I guess we'll know soon enough if any news is released about the future (or lack of a future) of the show. I still can't imagine them talking about the end of the series amidst all of this really positive media coverage, but who knows. I wonder if we'll hear anything about Jensen's upcoming new role? Yeah don't expect any show ending announcements tonight--should be a big SPN boosterism night. 2 Link to comment
DeeDee79 March 21, 2018 Share March 21, 2018 7 minutes ago, catrox14 said: Well, that is extreme. I've never seen those calls but they'll never get that. LOL. . Most Destiel shippers are not in that vein. I know that; I'm just mentioning the ones that I've seen online that are. 1 Link to comment
Casseiopeia March 21, 2018 Share March 21, 2018 Did Andrew not get the memo that this is kind of a big deal event? 3 Link to comment
katifantastico March 21, 2018 Share March 21, 2018 1 minute ago, catrox14 said: Have you guys found the live stream? It's on The Paley Center for Media Facebook page. It looks like they are running a little late, the stream has updated the start time to 9:41 pm Central. 1 Link to comment
Casseiopeia March 21, 2018 Share March 21, 2018 https://business.facebook.com/PaleyCenter/videos/10157288490162571/ They are running late. They are showing the Scooby ep right now 2 Link to comment
Wayward Son March 21, 2018 Share March 21, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, DeeDee79 said: Another thing that irritates me about Destiel beyond whether or not I see the chemistry between them is some of the things that I've read online from (extreme) Destiel shippers. The ones that want Jared off of the show so it can be all Dean and Cas all of the time and the ones that say "start watching at season 4; that's when it's worth watching". Not to say that all fans ( or you! ) are like that. I just don't understand those that are. It goes both ways and I believe it is worse from the anti Misha fans . I’ve seen plenty of Wincest shipper and general J2 fans who are desperate to get Misha off the show. Back when S7 aired a group of fans even tried organising an official “Fire Misha Collins Day” and while it obviously didn’t work it was loud enough for both Jim Beaver and RSJ to comment on. https://www.hypable.com/spiteful-supernatural-fans-try-to-get-misha-collins-fired-fail-epically/ (an article written at the time about it including tweets Jim wrote) Edited March 21, 2018 by Wayward Son 1 Link to comment
catrox14 March 21, 2018 Share March 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Casseiopeia said: https://business.facebook.com/PaleyCenter/videos/10157288490162571/ They are running late. They are showing the Scooby ep right now Thank you !!! Link to comment
DeeDee79 March 21, 2018 Share March 21, 2018 4 minutes ago, Wayward Son said: It goes both ways and I believe it is worse from the anti Misha fans . I’ve seen plenty of Wincest shipper and general J2 fans who are desperate to get Misha off the show. Back when S7 aired a group of fans even tried organising an official “Fire Misha Collins Day” and while it obviously didn’t work it was loud enough for both Jim Beaver and RSJ to comment on. https://www.hypable.com/spiteful-supernatural-fans-try-to-get-misha-collins-fired-fail-epically/ (an article written at the time about it including tweets Jim wrote) I've heard about fans trying to get of Misha also. I've also heard that Jensen went to bat for Misha in season 7 when Sera Gamble decided to write him out. I was just commenting on the extreme Destiel fans; not all of them. The tinhatters are just as bad IMO but my comment was stemmed from fans slamming Jensen over the Destiel ship. I think personally think that it's insane to be so invested in a fandom ship that you ( general you ) would try to interfere with the livelihood of the actors. 2 Link to comment
Wayward Son March 21, 2018 Share March 21, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, DeeDee79 said: I've heard about fans trying to get of Misha also. I've also heard that Jensen went to bat for Misha in season 7 when Sera Gamble decided to write him out. I was just commenting on the extreme Destiel fans; not all of them. The tinhatters are just as bad IMO but my comment was stemmed from fans slamming Jensen over the Destiel ship. I think personally think that it's insane to be so invested in a fandom ship that you ( general you ) would try to interfere with the livelihood of the actors. I don’t want to get into it in this thread and I think I’ve discussed it in the past, but Jensen has made more than one questionable remark in interviews and at conventions. So while I’m sure there are some fans who may complain about him due to shipping I also think in this fandom it’s all too common to blame everything on the Destiel shippers. Re Jensen and Gamble: As far as I know that’s pure speculation. I don’t think anyone behind the scenes (actors, writers or crew) have ever come out and said it. Edited March 21, 2018 by Wayward Son 1 Link to comment
DeeDee79 March 21, 2018 Share March 21, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Wayward Son said: So while I’m sure there are some fans who may complain about him due to shipping I also think in this fandom it’s all too common to blame everything on the Destiel shippers. Not all of the Destiel shippers are being blamed from the sites that I've frequented. I've just seen comments directed towards the ones that direct disparaging remarks towards Jared/Sam because he's in the way of their OTP. Again, I'm not personally bashing the ship. I'm just commenting on my personal fandom experience. 9 minutes ago, Wayward Son said: I don’t want to get into it in this thread and I think I’ve discussed it in the past, but Jensen has made more than one questionable remark in interviews and at conventions. IMO fans shouldn't hate on Jensen about whether or not he portrays Dean as bi or straight just because fans don't like his answer when they ask the question. I don't think that it's fair to judge him for his depiction of a character that he's been playing for over 13 years. Edited March 21, 2018 by DeeDee79 3 Link to comment
DeeDee79 March 21, 2018 Share March 21, 2018 15 minutes ago, Wayward Son said: Re Jensen and Gamble: As far as I know that’s pure speculation. I don’t think anyone behind the scenes (actors, writers or crew) have ever come out and said it. I can't recall where I read it; I would have to do some digging. From what I read ( I don't remember where! ) Sera thought that Cas & Bobby had fulfilled their purpose and wrote them both out during season 7 for that reason. I will try to find the source and post it here. Link to comment
Wayward Son March 21, 2018 Share March 21, 2018 5 minutes ago, DeeDee79 said: IMO fans shouldn't hate on Jensen about whether or not he portrays Dean as bi or straight just because fans don't like his answer when they ask the question. I don't think that it's fair to judge him for his depiction of a character that he's been playing for over 13 years. Oh I have no issue with the fact he views Dean as a heterosexual man. I do find the fact that in an interview he linked the terms ‘gay and unmanly’, that he stated he enjoyed cowboy movies until Broke Mountain came out (which without further clarification such as “I hated the directing” is quite questionable since it is best known for its too gay leads) and he told a fan to “not to ruin it for everyone else” when they mentioned they were bisexual troublesome to say the least. Again, I don’t want to get into an argument over this. So I’m just clarifying what I have taken issue with (which isn’t to do with ships or Dean’s sexuality) and moving on and making this my last post on the topic :): 4 minutes ago, DeeDee79 said: I can't recall where I read it; I would have to do some digging. From what I read ( I don't remember where! ) Sera thought that Cas & Bobby had fulfilled their purpose and wrote them both out during season 7 for that reason. I will try to find the source and post it here. Yes, Sera wrote them out. I meant the “Jensen fought for them” part is speculation as far as I know. If anyone has links of someone from the show stating he fought for Misha feel free to link me). Personally, I think the return of Misha was more linked to the arrival of Carver as showrunner, and he would have stayed gone had Gamble never left. 1 Link to comment
DeeDee79 March 21, 2018 Share March 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, Wayward Son said: I meant the “Jensen fought for them” part is speculation as far as I know. I've read more than once that he fought for Misha but not Jim and Misha. I will look for the source. Link to comment
catrox14 March 21, 2018 Share March 21, 2018 1 hour ago, DeeDee79 said: I've read more than once that he fought for Misha but not Jim and Misha. I will look for the source. I've heard the same. 1 Link to comment
SueB March 21, 2018 Share March 21, 2018 Me filming Misha filming crowd (I'm the blurry person in circle): My POV: I posted a bunch on Twitter (@SnazzyO). No spoilers. There were no big announcements. Bob slipped up and mentioned "next year" but tonight was about Scoobynatural. NO SPOILER THOUGHTS: Excellent episode. They push the envelope, again. A lot of humor with self-awareness. Some poignant moments but mostly just fun. 4 Link to comment
Iju March 21, 2018 Share March 21, 2018 i don't know where to post this and this is the closest thread i can find it so i'll just say it here. jared's last name is so strange and foreign sounding to me but i love saying it, especially with a southern drawl. anyway i searched up his last name and it's known in only three states: north dakota (where half of the padaleckis live), pennsylvania (17%) and, you guessed it, texas (33%). Link to comment
Bobcatkitten March 21, 2018 Share March 21, 2018 There was so much Supernatural content the last few days my phone can barely hold all the pictures :) I love me some Jensen and thought his suit on Kimmel was A1; not so much the Paley sweater. 1 Link to comment
catrox14 March 21, 2018 Share March 21, 2018 (edited) That's weird. I swore I posted the full panel here upthread. It was embedded in a tweet. And it was labeled Full Paleyfest panel in the tweet! Where did it go? Have I lost my mind. I'm so confused! LOL What the heck! Thanks for posting it again, Ditty! Edited March 21, 2018 by catrox14 Link to comment
Ninamags March 21, 2018 Share March 21, 2018 15 hours ago, Casseiopeia said: Did Andrew not get the memo that this is kind of a big deal event? ? Lots Of folks are wearing jeans. Link to comment
ohjoy March 21, 2018 Share March 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Casseiopeia said: The coordinated leg-crossing amuses me. 12 Link to comment
Wayward Son March 21, 2018 Share March 21, 2018 12 minutes ago, Ninamags said: ? Lots Of folks are wearing jeans. Jared seems to be wearing trousers and I can’t tell if Jensen and Alexander are wearing trousers or black jeans lol Link to comment
catrox14 March 21, 2018 Share March 21, 2018 17 minutes ago, garnetarden said: The coordinated leg-crossing amuses me. I'm honestly disappointed that there wasn't a Rockettes moment there with all of them. LOL 20 minutes ago, Ninamags said: ? Lots Of folks are wearing jeans. The jeans isn't the problem. He's wearing basically his college nerd outfit that he always wears. Jeans, novelty t-shirt, over shirt. He just looks a little frumpy but maybe he's just more comfortable that way. Misha looked comfortably casually chic. 4 Link to comment
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