catrox14 January 5, 2018 Share January 5, 2018 Huh, that's Carina Mackenzie (aka CadlyMack) at this opening. She's talking to Jensen. I'm trying to figure out who else is there. 1 Link to comment
catrox14 January 6, 2018 Share January 6, 2018 (edited) oops wrong thread Edited January 6, 2018 by catrox14 Link to comment
catrox14 January 6, 2018 Share January 6, 2018 Okay Danneel, do you even know your husband's character LOL. I think she was trying to be funny but telling Jensen "Don't slice up any of our customers" tells me she thinks Dean is still a demon and I guess a killer. WTF? That's so weird. 1 Link to comment
MysteryGuest January 6, 2018 Share January 6, 2018 I think she was just making a joke. He does lop off a lot of heads in his day job, so I think she was referring to that. 3 Link to comment
catrox14 January 6, 2018 Share January 6, 2018 10 hours ago, MysteryGuest said: I think she was just making a joke. He does lop off a lot of heads in his day job, so I think she was referring to that. Yes, that's why I said I think she was trying to be funny. It's a joke but a weird one that I was like...ohhhkay.. I mean you'd think the joke would have been "we don't need any monsters coming her for Dean to kill". But it was like Jensen was going to slice up the regular customers. I mean I'm not angry or anything about it. Maybe it's a long running inside joke between Jensen and Danneel or something. It was peculiar is all I'm saying. That's it. I'm not bashing her before any one comes at me. Link to comment
MysteryGuest January 6, 2018 Share January 6, 2018 38 minutes ago, catrox14 said: Yes, that's why I said I think she was trying to be funny. It's a joke but a weird one that I was like...ohhhkay.. I mean you'd think the joke would have been "we don't need any monsters coming her for Dean to kill". But it was like Jensen was going to slice up the regular customers. I mean I'm not angry or anything about it. Maybe it's a long running inside joke between Jensen and Danneel or something. It was peculiar is all I'm saying. That's it. I'm not bashing her before any one comes at me. I didn't think you were bashing anyone. I think it was just a joke that sort of fell flat. They both seemed almost a bit uncomfortable when talking about Jensen's day job. Obviously, they know that's going to be the draw, at least at the beginning. Especially for the non-locals. But I think they've worked really hard to get this thing up and running and want it to be more than just an extension of fandom. Not that they don't want fans to come, but that they want them to come for the right reasons. 1 Link to comment
catrox14 January 6, 2018 Share January 6, 2018 19 minutes ago, MysteryGuest said: I didn't think you were bashing anyone. I think it was just a joke that sort of fell flat. They both seemed almost a bit uncomfortable when talking about Jensen's day job. Obviously, they know that's going to be the draw, at least at the beginning. Especially for the non-locals. But I think they've worked really hard to get this thing up and running and want it to be more than just an extension of fandom. Not that they don't want fans to come, but that they want them to come for the right reasons. It was definitely an awkward interview. I think they are in a tricky spot. It's sounds like the name legitimately wasn't really intended to be tied to SPN initially. The thing is that now they are kind of trading on the SPN side beyond just Jensen being a co-owner, with the "Serving People...Fermented Things" angle. So if they are going with that I see no good reason for them to not play up the Jensen connection at first. Jared can't be included here because he's got the bar and that's a state regulation that bar owners can't be legally involved in the manufacture of the beer I think. He got a letter from state when he was making a wine for Stephen Amell. So that's why Jared isn't involved in the PR If they want to expand distribution, they need all the good will and taste buds on it they can. I think they really should just be like yes "Come for SPN/Jensen, stay for the beer. Come back again for the beer, which will always be here even if Jensen is not". 1 Link to comment
Casseiopeia January 6, 2018 Share January 6, 2018 I'm not familiar with breweries but are they a family experience? I mean it is basically a steel and concrete structure with a few picnic tables outside and what sounds like a freeway within a few feet. How much fun is that going to be for the kids to run around "outside" while mom and dad get drunk? Unless the beer is out of this world I can't see a lot of traffic (other than those hoping for a Jensen sighting) in the long run. They must be counting on sales to local restaurants and bars. This is from a non drinker that lives about 20 min from the Budweiser brewery that I've never been too. So I really have no idea. 2 Link to comment
DittyDotDot January 6, 2018 Share January 6, 2018 27 minutes ago, Casseiopeia said: I'm not familiar with breweries but are they a family experience? I mean it is basically a steel and concrete structure with a few picnic tables outside and what sounds like a freeway within a few feet. How much fun is that going to be for the kids to run around "outside" while mom and dad get drunk? Unless the beer is out of this world I can't see a lot of traffic (other than those hoping for a Jensen sighting) in the long run. They must be counting on sales to local restaurants and bars. This is from a non drinker that lives about 20 min from the Budweiser brewery that I've never been too. So I really have no idea. These kinds of small/quaint breweries are generally are family-friendly. People don't come in to get drunk, but sample some fancy beer and eat and just hang out for a bit. It's like visiting a winery except they make beer not wine. 4 Link to comment
bethy January 6, 2018 Share January 6, 2018 It’s definitely a social thing in Austin. It’s very hipstery and lots of young families will hang out when the weather is nice. In fairness most parents aren’t getting drunk. They’re trying a beer or two with friends while the kids run around and play. If the brewery has a playscape and an open area for younger kids to chase each other, I think they’ll do well. Especially if the beer is good. 2 Link to comment
Casseiopeia January 6, 2018 Share January 6, 2018 29 minutes ago, bethy said: It’s definitely a social thing in Austin. It’s very hipstery and lots of young families will hang out when the weather is nice. In fairness most parents aren’t getting drunk. They’re trying a beer or two with friends while the kids run around and play. If the brewery has a playscape and an open area for younger kids to chase each other, I think they’ll do well. Especially if the beer is good. Thanks. I am sure it will be successful then since they are family people. 1 Link to comment
Myrelle January 7, 2018 Share January 7, 2018 6 hours ago, bethy said: It’s definitely a social thing in Austin. It’s very hipstery and lots of young families will hang out when the weather is nice. In fairness most parents aren’t getting drunk. They’re trying a beer or two with friends while the kids run around and play. If the brewery has a playscape and an open area for younger kids to chase each other, I think they’ll do well. Especially if the beer is good. It's a social thing everywhere, in truth. And the beer being good is key, in all honesty-which makes their choice of a head brewer their most important choice, IMO. I hope that he's both knowledgable and innovative in his field. That will make all the difference where it regards success in this endeavor, again IMO. And I wish them all the best in that. As a beer lover, I'd love to visit them, but it would take some time for me to come up with the funds for a trip of that magnitude-again, for me. But I'd go in a heartbeat if the funds were immediately available because Beer makes everything Better for me. ;-D 2 Link to comment
Casseiopeia January 7, 2018 Share January 7, 2018 5 hours ago, Myrelle said: It's a social thing everywhere, in truth. And the beer being good is key, in all honesty-which makes their choice of a head brewer their most important choice, IMO. I hope that he's both knowledgable and innovative in his field. That will make all the difference where it regards success in this endeavor, again IMO. And I wish them all the best in that. As a beer lover, I'd love to visit them, but it would take some time for me to come up with the funds for a trip of that magnitude-again, for me. But I'd go in a heartbeat if the funds were immediately available because Beer makes everything Better for me. ;-D According to Gen, who evidently loves beer it's the best she has ever had. 1 Link to comment
Pondlass1 January 7, 2018 Share January 7, 2018 I don't like beer. I don't like the taste, I don't like the smell, I don't like the gassy, But it would be great if Danneel opened a winery next door with similar amenities. I'd be all over that. LOL. 3 Link to comment
Bobcatkitten January 7, 2018 Share January 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Pondlass1 said: I don't like beer. I don't like the taste, I don't like the smell, I don't like the gassy, But it would be great if Danneel opened a winery next door with similar amenities. I'd be all over that. LOL. Oh, now that would be amazing. I'm not into beer either even though my husband makes it. I only like basically fruity beer with no taste :) Link to comment
ILoveReading January 7, 2018 Share January 7, 2018 Jensen and Danneel's brewery does have a playground for kids. There was a picture of JJ playing on it some time back. About Supernatural at the TCAs. Not exactly surprising. 2 Link to comment
Res January 7, 2018 Share January 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Morrigan2575 said: No surprise 13 yrs and they still don't know how to spell Jensen. 5 Link to comment
catrox14 January 7, 2018 Share January 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, Res said: 13 yrs and they still don't know how to spell Jensen. LOL. I thought the same thing but I'm going with it being an unfortunate typo. LOL Link to comment
catrox14 January 7, 2018 Share January 7, 2018 1 hour ago, ILoveReading said: Jensen and Danneel's brewery does have a playground for kids. There was a picture of JJ playing on it some time back. About Supernatural at the TCAs. Not exactly surprising. It's always the caveat, if the ratings hold. I'd really like to know what is the threshold for the ratings to be a cancellation point for this show. Is it dropping below the DCTV shows in total? Would it take Dynasty level ratings? That's the question I've always wanted to ask. LOL Link to comment
Pondlass1 January 7, 2018 Share January 7, 2018 Of course I want the show to go on forever. However, the Js deciding they don't want to continue puts a lot of guilt on their shoulders as they would be putting friends out of work. OTOH failing ratings is not a good end to an epic show either. I don't want Supernatural to go out with a whimper. I'd rather TPTB made the decision - "season 14 will be the final season" (for example) 1 Link to comment
Bessie January 7, 2018 Share January 7, 2018 13 minutes ago, Pondlass1 said: However, theJs deciding they don't want to continue puts a lot of guilt on their shoulders as they would be putting friends out of work. OTOH failing ratings is not a good end to an epic show either. Hmm. You’re right. Makes me wonder if J2 are negotiating for something TPTB don’t necessarily want to give them. They could be applying a little public pressure. 1 Link to comment
catrox14 January 7, 2018 Share January 7, 2018 23 minutes ago, Pondlass1 said: Of course I want the show to go on forever. However, the Js deciding they don't want to continue puts a lot of guilt on their shoulders as they would be putting friends out of work. OTOH failing ratings is not a good end to an epic show either. I don't want Supernatural to go out with a whimper. I'd rather TPTB made the decision - "season 14 will be the final season" (for example) I was having a similar thought but I didn't want to say it. I think it's a catch -22. Maybe this is part of negotiating the end of the show or shortening the seasons a bit? I don't know. The key here is IF the ratings hold and IF the boys want to continue. So I still think both things must hold true. So maybe it's a strategy for both the network and the boys to make sure eyeballs are on the show as they negotiate the end game? Link to comment
Bobcatkitten January 7, 2018 Share January 7, 2018 They are clearly negotiating some different items than just two years, X money because in a con last year Jensen said they are looking into different scenarios. I think the shortened season is probably it. In one con Jensen said that he and Jared had recently made a decision on when it would end but didn't say what obviously. I can't remember which one so I am going back through the 2017 cons to try to find it. 2 Link to comment
gonzosgirrl January 7, 2018 Share January 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Res said: 13 yrs and they still don't know how to spell Jensen. So disrespectful. If it's a typo, then fix it. Delete the tweet and try again. 5 Link to comment
ILoveReading January 7, 2018 Share January 7, 2018 http://deadline.com/2018/01/the-cw-supernatural-future-spinoff-dynasty-changes-valor-fate-sabrina-move-netflix-1202237432/ Pedowitz talks about the spin off. Quote I’ve seen it, I like it but the fans determine,” Pedowitz said. While the first attempt at a Supernatural spinoff, Bloodlines, “did not work at all, this one has an opportunity to work,” he said. “Nothing is perfect but the real question is whether fans will go watch it if the boys aren’t in it. I don’t know but it works, the characters work, Kathryn Newton is a real star, the actress who plays Donna (Briana Buckmaster) is hilarious.” Not exactly a ringing endorsement. 3 Link to comment
catrox14 January 7, 2018 Share January 7, 2018 Interesting comments from Pedowitz about Kathryn Newton. I don't think I was too far off in saying she's going to be the lead assuming she doesn't leave for greener pastures. Quote One of the sturdiest CW ratings performer — linearly and digitally — has been veteran Supernatural, currently in its 13th season. It’s become a TCA tradition to check on the future prospects of the series, which has repeatedly defied expectations. Noting that he and his CW team are not ready to announce renewal decisions yet, “next year would be Supernatural‘s 300th episode which is remarkable,” Pedowitz told Deadline. “That show will go on as long as it keeps going, the boys (stars Jared Padalecki and Jensen Ackles) keep doing it and the ratings keep holding.” This season, Supernatural is also tasked with introducing a potential spinoff, Wayward Sisters, starring the original series’ standout Kim Rhodes in an episode that airs a week from Thursday. “I’ve seen it, I like it but the fans determine,” Pedowitz said. While the first attempt at a Supernatural spinoff, Bloodlines, “did not work at all, this one has an opportunity to work,” he said. “Nothing is perfect but the real question is whether fans will go watch it if the boys aren’t in it. I don’t know but it works, the characters work, Kathryn Newton is a real star, the actress who plays Donna (Briana Buckmaster) is hilarious.” Link to comment
Bobcatkitten January 7, 2018 Share January 7, 2018 Claire is the character I like least of those in Wayward. Ugh. 4 Link to comment
gonzosgirrl January 7, 2018 Share January 7, 2018 Wow, Kim Rhodes must be so proud. o_O 4 Link to comment
MysteryGuest January 8, 2018 Share January 8, 2018 I can see Kathryn signing on for a while. Yes, she's been in a few mainstream things lately, but her parts haven't been all that large. Big Little Lies was the largest part, and she literally had one very short scene in 3 Billboards. This would be a steady gig, so I can see her signing on. I don't think she's that great an actress, so I'm not sure just how far she could go in movies. This may end up being a good decision for her, if the show gets picked up. I'm still on the fence as to whether I'll watch. I don't see it drawing me in if I weren't already familiar with the characters, and even with that, I'm not all that excited about it. If we could have whatever spin off we wanted, I'd rather watch Bobby and Rufus. 2 Link to comment
catrox14 January 8, 2018 Share January 8, 2018 1 hour ago, gonzosgirrl said: Wow, Kim Rhodes must be so proud. o_O Honestly, I hope there are more comments coming out of that interview because that sure doesn't sit quite well with me. If the spinoff fails that won't be on Kim or anyone else. It will fail because of the writing. Not the acting that's for sure. Link to comment
Wayward Son January 8, 2018 Share January 8, 2018 1 minute ago, catrox14 said: Honestly, I hope there are more comments coming out of that interview because that sure doesn't sit quite well with me. If the spinoff fails that won't be on Kim or anyone else. It will fail because of the writing. Not the acting that's for sure. I’ve said it before but the spin off is doomed to fail because large portions of the SPN fandom aren’t receptive to a spin off, any spin off. The bi-bro fans who watch just for the brothers, the Dean girls who watch just for Dean and the Sam girls who watch just for Sam take and therefore won’t watch something without their favourite(s) in it take up too large a portion of the audience between them for it to work. Link to comment
catrox14 January 8, 2018 Share January 8, 2018 ETA: Who knows, though, maybe Kathryn has more power than anyone right now with her resume. Or maybe I'm reading that wrong and Pedowitz is saying Kathryn is a real star and she'll be leaving the nest. It's just kind of a strange comment. I hope something else is missing in that report. In that article I posted above about Kathryn, I thought this was curious Quote I remember I was working on Big Little Lies at the time, and I kind of had to fight for the role. I was working on one set, so I had to go to Jean-Marc [Vallée] and say, “Hey, Jean-Marc, remember that audition — you let me go meet the director on my lunch break? Well I booked it, so now can you move dates around for Big Little Lies so I can go shoot this in Asheville, North Carolina?” It was kind of a really great experience for me, because not only did I have to fight really hard just in my audition, but then I had to fight really hard to get the dates cleared out. So it was a really great experience for me as a person, just learning how to get what you want, and just as an artist to fight for a rol Does she have that kind of power with the spinoff? If it gets picked up can she be the one that dictates the filming dates or is this telling us that maybe SPN isn't going to be so flexible? I don't know it's odd for sure. Link to comment
catrox14 January 8, 2018 Share January 8, 2018 Just now, Wayward Son said: I’ve said it before but the spin off is doomed to fail because large portions of the SPN fandom aren’t receptive to a spin off, any spin off. The bi-bro fans who watch just for the brothers, the Dean girls who watch just for Dean and the Sam girls who watch just for Sam take and therefore won’t watch something without their favourite(s) in it take up too large a portion of the audience between them for it to work. Eh, I think that will have much less impact than you're suggesting. I think most fans (bibros, Sam and Dean and Castiel fans will tune in) so the ratings I think will be even with the rest of the season. Especially since it is the midseason premiere. I don't think ratings will be the SOLE reason for the spinoff getting a pick up or not. I think critical reception and social media chatter will matter as much as the actual ratings. Link to comment
Wayward Son January 8, 2018 Share January 8, 2018 Just now, catrox14 said: Eh, I think that will have much less impact than you're suggesting. I think most fans (bibros, Sam and Dean and Castiel fans will tune in) so the ratings I think will be even with the rest of the season. Especially since it is the midseason premiere. I don't think ratings will be the SOLE reason for the spinoff getting a pick up or not. I think critical reception and social media chatter will matter as much as the actual ratings. Sorry, I should have clarified. I mean if the spin off is picked up to series it is destined to flop from the start due to the fan base issues I mentioned :). I’d agree with you the ratings will probably remain around the 0.5 - 0.6 mark for the Backdoor pilot. Link to comment
Morrigan2575 January 8, 2018 Share January 8, 2018 2 hours ago, scribe95 said: Claire is the character I like least of those in Wayward. Ugh. Ditto. 3 Link to comment
Morrigan2575 January 8, 2018 Share January 8, 2018 (edited) 37 minutes ago, catrox14 said: Honestly, I hope there are more comments coming out of that interview because that sure doesn't sit quite well with me. If the spinoff fails that won't be on Kim or anyone else. It will fail because of the writing. Not the acting that's for sure. I don't think he's saying she's THE star of the show. Most times in Hollywood when they says so and so's a real star they mean it more flowery....oh she's got IT. Of course if the Network and EPs think she's A Star and other studios keep booking her for projects then the EPs might end up making her THE star. A good example of this is EBR on Arrow, went from 1 time guest star, to recurring guest star, to series regular, to female lead/main Love Interest. Not that she become THE star of Arrow but, she has IT and the EPs, actors, Network and fans all saw it, so she went from guest star to a main lead. Edited January 8, 2018 by Morrigan2575 Link to comment
catrox14 January 8, 2018 Share January 8, 2018 1 minute ago, Morrigan2575 said: I don't think he's saying she's THE star of the show. Most times in Hollywood when they says so and so's a real star they mean it more flowery....oh she's got IT. Of course if the Network and EPs think she's A Star and other studios keep booking her for projects then the EPs might end up making her THE star. A good example of this is EBR on Arrow, went from 1 time guest star, to recurring guest star, to series regular, to female lead/main Love Interest. No I didn't mean the star of SPN but the star of Wayward Sisters should it get to series. Link to comment
BoxManLocke January 8, 2018 Share January 8, 2018 His only comment about WS is about Kathryn Newton and Briana being "hilarious" ? Yeah I'm not expecting the backdoor pilot to be an accurate representation of the spin-off at all. Whether or not it helps critical reception remains to be seen, however what we've heard lately really doesn't fill me with confidence. Link to comment
Morrigan2575 January 8, 2018 Share January 8, 2018 4 minutes ago, catrox14 said: No I didn't mean the star of SPN but the star of Wayward Sisters should it get to series. Right, that's the show I'm talking about. I don't think he was saying she's THE lead of Wayward Sisters just using that typical Hollywood speak. X is a Real Star, they're going to be huge...it's just Hollywood talk, IMO. 2 Link to comment
catrox14 January 8, 2018 Share January 8, 2018 20 minutes ago, Morrigan2575 said: Right, that's the show I'm talking about. I don't think he was saying she's THE lead of Wayward Sisters just using that typical Hollywood speak. X is a Real Star, they're going to be huge...it's just Hollywood talk, IMO. I gotcha Link to comment
DittyDotDot January 8, 2018 Share January 8, 2018 What I found interesting is Pedowitz's comments were more about a couple actresses and not the show. Doesn't bode well for the show itself, IMO. 32 minutes ago, Morrigan2575 said: Right, that's the show I'm talking about. I don't think he was saying she's THE lead of Wayward Sisters just using that typical Hollywood speak. X is a Real Star, they're going to be huge...it's just Hollywood talk, IMO. I also think he's trying to use Katheryn's "hot" factor right now to sell the new show. Which could backfire on him considering that Claire is a very contentious character in fandom as it is. He may end up alienating more fans than he hooks with it. 3 Link to comment
Casseiopeia January 8, 2018 Share January 8, 2018 The actress that plays Donna? Doesn't he know who that is? I don't think he is very excited about this project. 3 Link to comment
catrox14 January 8, 2018 Share January 8, 2018 1 hour ago, DittyDotDot said: What I found interesting is Pedowitz's comments were more about a couple actresses and not the show. Doesn't bode well for the show itself, IMO. I also think he's trying to use Katheryn's "hot" factor right now to sell the new show. Which could backfire on him considering that Claire is a very contentious character in fandom as it is. He may end up alienating more fans than he hooks with it. He did talk about the episode. He said he likes it. He singled out Briana and Kathryn but he did say the bolded which I think bodes better for it's chances than not. Quote This season, Supernatural is also tasked with introducing a potential spinoff, Wayward Sisters, starring the original series’ standout Kim Rhodes in an episode that airs a week from Thursday. “I’ve seen it, I like it but the fans determine,”Pedowitz said. While the first attempt at a Supernatural spinoff, Bloodlines, “ did not work at all, this one has an opportunity to work,” he said. “Nothing is perfect but the real question is whether fans will go watch it if the boys aren’t in it. I don’t know but it works, the characters work, Kathryn Newton is a real star, the actress who plays Donna (Briana Buckmaster) is hilarious.” Link to comment
ILoveReading January 8, 2018 Share January 8, 2018 What stuck out to me is the "Nothing is perfect" comment. I reminds me of Briana tweeting something about how it might not be what fans are expecting and she hopes people will give it a chance. It makes me question if Pedowitz might have seen something that regular fans might not like or be willing to overlook. I know there some criticism of how Dean was portrayed in the last ep, it makes me wonder if Pedowitz read some of them. 1 Link to comment
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