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S04.E09: Slide Effect

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When the gang signs up for different hobbies that Eddie deems as lame, he begins to think he needs to find cooler friends in order to make his mark in high school. Jessica receives money to have her photograph professionally taken for her book, but in true Jessica fashion, she decides to pocket the money and have Honey take the photo for free. It doesn't take long to realize that no one can meet her picture-perfect standards.

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SmithW6079

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Yes, Eddie, you are a bad person. You helped your new friends steal and then you let your friend take the blame. 

The whole Jessica-as-novelist story line is STUPID. She's become insufferable, as have the two youngest sons. The only one of the family I really like now is Louis.

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ItCouldBeWorse

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1 hour ago, SmithW6079 said:

Yes, Eddie, you are a bad person. You helped your new friends steal and then you let your friend take the blame. 

The whole Jessica-as-novelist story line is STUPID. She's become insufferable, as have the two youngest sons. The only one of the family I really like now is Louis.

Even though Eddie would have gotten in a lot of trouble, Louis should have made him confess.

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smash

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The previous episode of Jessica's novel was pretty rough, but at least this episode takes a different direction on this storyline. Now she has real criticisms from the editors, and she even has some doubt that the book will be successful. It's at least not as linear as her realtor days, where she's been relatively successful right off the bat. 

Lol at what her final photo ended up being, wasn't expecting such an ordinary photo, but hey, I liked it.

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Star Aristille

Star Aristille

2 hours ago, ItCouldBeWorse said:

Even though Eddie would have gotten in a lot of trouble, Louis should have made him confess.

Agreed.  But at the same time, I actually thought that Louis would pay back the money instead and make Eddie work to make up for it.  And indeed, he did, and I was shocked!  But I thought that that would come with Eddie confessing and was slightly disappointed that it didn't.

4 hours ago, SmithW6079 said:

Yes, Eddie, you are a bad person. You helped your new friends steal and then you let your friend take the blame.

He at least didn't know that they were going to steal the money from the principal's office, so there's that.  And he made it right in the end, so no, he's not a bad person.  He did a bad thing, but he's not a bad person.

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Star Aristille

Star Aristille

3 hours ago, gesundheit said:

Just stopping by to say that the Rent knockoff in this episode was comic gold, especially the bumper at the end.

I didn't know schools had to get rights to do plays and musicals.  It's not like they're breaking any laws by doing so.

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ClareWalks

ClareWalks

2 minutes ago, Star Aristille said:

I didn't know schools had to get rights to do plays and musicals.  It's not like they're breaking any laws by doing so.

They generally have to purchase the music and scripts for such things, and for such an at-the-time new musical, the rights for outside performances would have not been available yet. Kind of like how nobody besides authorized professional productions can stage Hamilton right now (but in a few years it will be available to high schools, colleges, and community theaters).

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gesundheit

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They definitely have to get the rights and pay royalties to do shows at schools. And anywhere else. Plenty don't bother because they don't care and figure they'll be under the radar, but it is copyright law. Some estates or writers will waive royalties but that's up to them.

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Unraveled

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"Rent" moved to Broadway in 1996, after being in an off-Broadway theater since 1993. As a relatively new musical, there wouldn't be any rights to buy. Also, the original musical is very adult (I believe there is now a junior version of this now for younger audiences/actors). You also can't really change anything when you buy the rights to perform a play/musical.

This goes the same for doing other musical performances (cover bands, bands, orchestras).

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theatremouse

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The hacky sack dudes' verbiage distracted me. I wonder now if this is a regional thing but where I grew up the constant reference to "sacks" and "our sacks" and "sacking" was...not the way that was ever phrased. The objects were always referred to as hacky-sacks, and the activity referred to as playing hacky-sack. I couldn't tell if the show were going for some sort of extra joke, thinking it just sounded funnier this way, or if maybe in Florida that were the vernacular but it took me totally out of the episode every time.

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SanDiegoInExile

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8 hours ago, Unraveled said:

"Rent" moved to Broadway in 1996, after being in an off-Broadway theater since 1993. As a relatively new musical, there wouldn't be any rights to buy. Also, the original musical is very adult (I believe there is now a junior version of this now for younger audiences/actors). You also can't really change anything when you buy the rights to perform a play/musical.

I think we have theorized that the show is in roughly 1998-time, so Rent would have already made its big splash.  I don't know how soon that the rights could have been offered for sale.  As for changing things, wasn't the whole point of "Brent" that since they couldn't get rights, they just started changing some things.

I liked the high school principal lady. I don't recall her from past episodes.  I wouldn't mind seeing her on the show more often.

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Cirrus LaMark

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2 hours ago, SanDiegoInExile said:

I think we have theorized that the show is in roughly 1998-time, so Rent would have already made its big splash.

The show finally confirmed a few episodes ago that it's 1997 at this time.  It's staying more historically accurate than its '80s counterpart, The Goldbergs.

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ElectricBoogaloo

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Yes,  S4.E6 took place in November 1997 which means that this episode took place between Thanksgiving and Christmas of 1997.

Rent won four Tony Awards in June 1996 and there was a ton of publicity about the show in the mainstream press beforehand due to (1) Jonathan Larson’s sudden death the night before the show’s off Broadway first preview night and (2) the hardcore Rent-heads who would camp out for (3) Rent’s $20 rush seats in the front of the theater. The first national tour began in November 1996 and the second national tour (which ran concurrently) began in July 1997 so Rent was very much part of the cultural zeitgeist by the time this episode took place. It was the Hamilton of its time (although at this point, I think Hamilton has surpassed Rent in terms of popularity, especially among people who don’t normally see Broadway musicals).

You definitely need permission to perform any Broadway play or musical. I remember my high school always went through Samuel French. 

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As with any other idea, the idea for a performing arts production is copyrighted as soon as it is created. In order for any of these works to be performed, the proper licenses must be obtained. The only exception to this rule is with the case of works already in the public domain. This includes, for example, the works of William Shakespeare. Whether a work is in the public domain or not depends on the date it was created. If the work is not in the public domain, a license must be obtained to perform it. 

 

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The rights to a musical may not be available if it is currently playing on Broadway or touring, if original music copyrights prohibit licensing (as with many jukebox musicals), or if a motion picture version is currently in the works.

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biakbiak

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18 hours ago, Unraveled said:

a relatively new musical, there wouldn't be any rights to buy.

The rights start when its "published", so it definitely would have copyright protection, they just most likely werent for sale at that time.

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ItCouldBeWorse

ItCouldBeWorse

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On 11/29/2017 at 3:29 AM, ElectricBoogaloo said:

Jessica receives money to have her photograph professionally taken for her book

I know this is from ABC's description, but it wasn't part of the show.

Why did Eddie have to borrow $300 to return if he had his share of the stolen money, which was $75?

Did the vice-principal forget that the hacky sacks were out on her desk when the money went missing? Why didn't she suspect the sackers took the money with the sacks even if she couldn't prove it? Why assume Trent's key was used instead of, for instance, the janitor's key or a skeleton key? Did it leave a special signature behind? Why were they so desperate to get those sacks back when they clearly had others, including the one that landed on Brian's head when they were discussing the confiscated sacks?

Finally, in any real school, if a kid like Trent confronted those kids when they were trying to go off campus for lunch in the manner he did, with the vice-principal by his side, he'd have to watch his back until they graduated.

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ItCouldBeWorse

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1 hour ago, SmithW6079 said:
On 12/9/2017 at 8:58 PM, ItCouldBeWorse said:

Why did Eddie have to borrow $300 to return if he had his share of the stolen money, which was $75?

It was the interest Louis was charging him.

I believe the interest was $50, so he borrowed $350.  He should have only borrowed $275, which would be $225 ($300 minus his $75) plus $50 interest.

I think the writers forgot that Eddie had the $75.

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ElectricBoogaloo

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On 12/11/2017 at 11:02 PM, tennisgurl said:

Is it weird that I want to get a whole episode of Brent the musical? Because, I really, really do. "Its like Rent, but instead of AIDS, everyone has the flu". 

I would definitely watch it too! I was totally cracking up at the songs they sang before the show got shut down.

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Camera One

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So Eddie the brat came back at full force in this one, I suppose.  Though it was almost like the hackysack kids were corrupted by Eddie instead of the other way around.  More realistically, they would be sneaking off school grounds to smoke cigarettes, not just grab tacos.  

Fake "Rent" was definitely the highlight of this episode.  I also liked how the other friends were starting to not care about what other people in the school thought.

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