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On 7/23/2016 at 4:16 PM, Apprentice79 said:

 Sonny's last scenes where he placed the photo of Will, Sonny and Arianna on Will's grave and it blew away in the wind said it all to me - that Sonny would wash his hands from the daughter he promised at her christening "to take care of her as if she were my own daughter and love her for the rest of my life" - his promises were all lies. He abandoned her the day Will was buried and Sonny flew to Paris. I lost all respect for Sonny that day.

I'm sorry, but that's ridiculous.  Freddie Smith wasn't staying on the show.  What exactly were they supposed to do - have him sitting juuust off-screen on play dates with Ari the whole time?  Sure, they could have had Gabi drop in mentions here and there that Sonny was being in touch, but plenty of characters have gone off-screen, it doesn't mean they've abandoned their families.  Holding the out-of-show issue against the character makes no sense to me.

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1 hour ago, TeeVee329 said:

I'm sorry, but that's ridiculous.  Freddie Smith wasn't staying on the show.  What exactly were they supposed to do - have him sitting juuust off-screen on play dates with Ari the whole time?  Sure, they could have had Gabi drop in mentions here and there that Sonny was being in touch, but plenty of characters have gone off-screen, it doesn't mean they've abandoned their families.  Holding the out-of-show issue against the character makes no sense to me.

Bo and Hope came back in the 90's and we were given a storyline, the cruise of deception that culminated in her "death"..It was written well and it was an umbrella story that involved alot of characters on the show...Kristian was not staying on the show, but, Peter was..Her death drove stories for Bo, giving him two very popular pairings with Carly and Billie ...The Bo/Carly romance version 1, was a slow burn romance, out of respect for the Bope fans..I loved Carly and I know alot of Bope fans hated her on sight..Some still do...

I dislike Paul, Paulson and Sonny for  many reasons..What really pissed me off, was Sonny giving his creepy, obsessed, stalker ex Paul hope for a relationship  together, while standing literally on Will's grave..How disrespectful to the Will fans and Wilson fans..Will was killed in a horrible way and thrown in a trash bag...It was just as bad as Jennifer grieving Jack for one day and moving on to the Tan man the next day with her daughter's approval..I wonder how the Bope fans would have reacted if Bo and Carly or Bo and Billie were proclaiming their devotion to one another on Hope's grave..It would not have been pretty...

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14 minutes ago, Rick Kitchen said:

See, that's where we disagree.  I don't see Paul that way at all.

I have no desire to watch Paul, Sonny and their boring, contrived, love story..I barely watch the show as it is..I am only hanging in there to see my favorite couple Kim and Shane come back. Kim and Shane are a supercouple that Paulson wishes that they can be..  That was a beautiful love story.....I just hope Dena does not do any real damage to them..That woman scares me...If only Sherry can come back and write for them...

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4 minutes ago, Rick Kitchen said:

I just had a horrible thought. Corday said Nicole was going to be involved in a who's your daddy storyline, and at first I thought he meant she was going to get pregnant.  But is it going to be Chloe's baby?  Has she been doing the nasty with Philip?

I think that she will have Deimos' baby...

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1 minute ago, Rick Kitchen said:

Characters on soaps have been sterile for years and still gotten pregnant.

True, unless one of her dead babies will come back to life.. If Georgia a.k.a Chelsea affectionately known as swamp baby can come back to life...Anything is possible...I always thought that Cameron was going to be revealed to be Stefano's and that he helped Stefano steal Nicole's baby girl....

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18 minutes ago, Rick Kitchen said:

I just had a horrible thought. Corday said Nicole was going to be involved in a who's your daddy storyline, and at first I thought he meant she was going to get pregnant.  But is it going to be Chloe's baby?  Has she been doing the nasty with Philip?

If the child is the product of JPL's version of Philip, then there will be no possible confusion on the paternity.  

I mean, one look and all of Salem will know the kid belongs to Philip.

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That's definitely a JPL kid.

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Nicole has been pregnant twice and both pregnancies led to miscarriages. She kidnapped Sydney after the first one and used the second one to frame Jen. So since these writers aren't creative at all, if Nicole were to get pregnant again I assume she'll have another miscarriage and come up with a scheme to cover it up. 

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On July 23, 2016 at 4:16 PM, Apprentice79 said:

 Sonny's last scenes where he placed the photo of Will, Sonny and Arianna on Will's grave and it blew away in the wind said it all to me - that Sonny would wash his hands from the daughter he promised at her christening "to take care of her as if she were my own daughter and love her for the rest of my life" - his promises were all lies. He abandoned her the day Will was buried and Sonny flew to Paris. I lost all respect for Sonny that day. I am no longer excited to see Freddie's return because I know it is going to be all about Paul. No mention of Will or his former life. He has removed his wedding ring. Will meant nothing to him after he saw Paul again. I want Will to come back from the dead and take his daughter and tell Sonny and his precious Paul to fuck off and die...


 

Yes, because Will was bucking for Father of the Year and had Arianna's best interests at heart when, before he and his husband had even celebrated their first wedding anniversary, he destroyed his marriage and family by fucking two men he had just met. You do remember all those times he removed his wedding ring before he went to see Paul don't you? Clearly, none of that caused you to lose respect for him. I keep forgetting that he's Saint Will of Douchebag, so all of his "indiscretions" are excused and forgiven. He's the one who cheated, yet Sonny's the bad guy. Like when Sonny proved you right about how Will meant nothing to him after he saw Paul again by choosing Will every single time and even went so far as to take the blame for Will's cheating. A horrible person that Sonny Kiriakis!

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On 7/24/2016 at 7:53 PM, TeeVee329 said:

I'm sorry, but that's ridiculous.  Freddie Smith wasn't staying on the show.  What exactly were they supposed to do - have him sitting juuust off-screen on play dates with Ari the whole time?  Sure, they could have had Gabi drop in mentions here and there that Sonny was being in touch, but plenty of characters have gone off-screen, it doesn't mean they've abandoned their families.  Holding the out-of-show issue against the character makes no sense to me.

Agree 10000%

Julie hasn't mentioned her brother Steven since the 1970s or her son David since the 1980s, or her grandson Scotty since the early 1990s.  Hope hasn't mentioned her brother Little Dougie since the 1980s. Jennifer hasn't mentioned her brother Dr Mike Horton in over a decade, or her father Bill -- is he dead or is he still in Africa? No one mentions bad seed Jeremy Horton, who presumably was in prison at the same time as his now-dead cousin Nick Fallon.  Has Joey ever mentioned his older sister Stephanie -- have her parents even mentioned her?

I guess I missed all the mentions by Marlena about her second husband Don Craig. Or her first husband for that matter, Dr Alex North.  And Caroline just goes on and on and on about her adopted sons Francois von Leushner Brady and Max Brady.  And Shawn Douglas and Ciara Alice were really sad that their sister Chelsea couldn't come to Salem for their father's funeral....oh wait....Bo has another daughter?

And Maggie sure must miss her grandson Nathan, the heir apparent to Dr Tom Horton -- they gave him Tom's coveted doctor's bag.  She babbles on and on about him.  Not.  And all those scenes with Chad lamenting his dead siblings -- Renee, Megan, Benjy, Antony.  Those were heartbreaking moments.  Not.

DOOL is transitory.  Stories are only told with the cast they have on contract.  It's been that way for 50+ years.  And it will be that way for the next 50 years.

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57 minutes ago, WendyCR72 said:

To be fair, and I know it's a soap - but Chelsea/Georgia should not even be. She was stillborn on screen! Sorry, it still makes me crazy...

Exactly! It never made any sense that she was alive...I saw the episode and it was very moving with Billie singing Georgia on my mind to her baby girl...All of that sympathy went away when she carried her dead baby around  with her  weeks later and blame Hope for her death in her futile attempt to get Bo back..Yuck....

I felt that JER  brought Chelsea/Georgia back to life in his attempt to make Bo/Billie on the same level as Bope...Not! 

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4 minutes ago, Apprentice79 said:

I felt that JER  brought Chelsea/Georgia back to life in his attempt to make Bo/Billie on the same level as Bope...Not!

And why, IMO, he had Hope get with the aforementioned Patrick, so Bo/Billie could stay together. JER actually seemed to resent couples and history that he did not specifically create.

ETA: While my above post stands, was JER the head hack who did that? I thought he was long gone when Chelsea was introduced...

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5 minutes ago, WendyCR72 said:

And why, IMO, he had Hope get with the aforementioned Patrick, so Bo/Billie could stay together. JER actually seemed to resent couples and history that he did not specifically create.

Exactly, he did the same thing with Jack and Jennifer..I never forgave him for firing Matthew Ashford, he was quoted as saying that he hated Jack and did not understand his appeal to the audience...He always wrote people as either a white hat or a black hat..He could never write for a character as complex as Jack Devereaux..I also hated what he did to Tony....I will say that I did love the John/Marlena/Roman triangle, but, Sherry Anderson was really at the helm of it..It was too good to have been just him.. She always grounded JER...

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6 minutes ago, Apprentice79 said:

[JER] always wrote people as either a white hat or a black hat

Higher ratings be damned. To me, JER couldn't write basic relatable human emotion stories at all and relied on shock value, gimmicks, and stalls. And I remember his comments about Matt Ashford. Almost is ironically amusing that Peter/Jennifer caused Melissa Reeves to leave (for reasons already discussed before), and it was left to wither and die with Recast Jenn.

ETA: I think if this continues, it should go in another thread. Just realized it is the spoiler section. Sincere apologies.

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12 minutes ago, WendyCR72 said:

Higher ratings be damned. To me, JER couldn't write basic relatable human emotion stories at all and relied on shock value, gimmicks, and stalls. And I remember his comments about Matt Ashford. Almost is ironically amusing that Peter/Jennifer caused Melissa Reeves to leave (for reasons already discussed before), and it was left to wither and die with Recast Jenn.

I love your post 1000 times..I hated JER's reign and it was the beginning of the end of good, adventure,  character-driven stories for DAYS. He also gave more character development to the villains of the show: Vivian, Kristen, Sami, Stefano and the heroes became dumb, stupid and foolish...He gave Stefano superpowers, he can create whole towns, bring people back to life, e.t.c..Stefano became a cartoon..The villains of the past like Orpheus, Savannah, Emma, Victor, Renee, Megan, Ernesto all had layers....They were not cartoon villains..Orpheus remains my favorite villain of all time on the show....He has two kids out there and they could be creating mayhem for the legacy kids, especially for Jarlena's brood.

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1 minute ago, WendyCR72 said:

And why, IMO, he had Hope get with the aforementioned Patrick, so Bo/Billie could stay together. JER actually seemed to resent couples and history that he did not specifically create.

Well, to be fair, it isn't really soapy unless couples are apart/mixed/convoluted.  The show tried too hard to re-create the chemistry that was RKK-Rinna.  The parade of Billies (originalBillie, then pornBillie, then perkyBillie, then back to the original, with new lips) didn't help.  It also didn't help that Peter Reckell really didn't have much romantic chemistry with any of them. Brody Hutzler was decent to look at, but he apparently was a graduate of the same acting school that brought us Galen and Martsolf.

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2 minutes ago, SanDiegoInExile said:

Well, to be fair, it isn't really soapy unless couples are apart/mixed/convoluted.  The show tried too hard to re-create the chemistry that was RKK-Rinna.  The parade of Billies (originalBillie, then pornBillie, then perkyBillie, then back to the original, with new lips) didn't help.  It also didn't help that Peter Reckell really didn't have much romantic chemistry with any of them. Brody Hutzler was decent to look at, but he apparently was a graduate of the same acting school that brought us Galen and Martsolf.

But, he was so pretty to look at....lol 

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2 minutes ago, SanDiegoInExile said:

Well, to be fair, it isn't really soapy unless couples are apart/mixed/convoluted

Oh, I know. But usually, the convoluted journey with new partners was designed as angst for the root-for pairings. But under JER, it wasn't about making an established pairing overcome stuff and become stronger, it was to just destroy that couple so the new pairings could get preferential treatment.

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2 minutes ago, WendyCR72 said:

Oh, I know. But usually, the convoluted journey with new partners was designed as angst for the root-for pairings. But under JER, it wasn't about making an established pairing overcome stuff and become stronger, it was to just destroy that couple so the new pairings could get preferential treatment.

That is so true...I remember he had Abigail as a baby call Peter Daddy..I was so pissed...It was designed to make us the viewers root for Peter over Jack as a perfect father and husband to Abigail and Jennifer...

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I think we all mak our own compromises in soap storylines, and it's not hard to do with different regimes emphasizing different things, a large cast of characters, some of whom we remember vividly, who disappear, never to be mentioned again.  To such an extent that when they ARE mentioned, we can almost be sure they're just about to pop back up again.

In that vein, I just don't care or invest much in children or non-biological relationships with the kiddies.  Couples uncouple, step parents we saw as devoted get kicked to the side, or the kids disappear and POOF!, it's gone.  Just look at Rafe with Sami's kids.  They were supposed to love him dearly and he them.  When the last time we ever heard him mention them, or heard them mentioned by anyone, including their grandparents, Marlena and Roman and Kate?

So Sonny not being around for Ari doesn't bother me, and it won't bother me if Show decides to suddenly make him father of the year with some belated, "she loved skyping with you" bullshit.  Until the kids can carry storyline or contribute to them as something other than accessories with dirty diapers, I really don't care.

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From Soap Central for next week:

 

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Though he's just returned to town, Sonny has a growing to-do list as his navigates his homecoming 

Sonny steals time to get reacquainted with Paul, and the two former flames share a moment over drinks 

Catching up with Paul isn't Sonny's only task as he finds himself immersed in Kiriakis family drama 

Justin finds himself neck-deep in drama as the case of the missing evidence just doesn't seem to want to go away 

As Justin's future hangs in the balance, John, Brady, and the rest continue to search for Tate, but John may have news 

Marlena and John spend some tender time together before he bolts off to follow up on the latest lead 

As Brady and Theresa's relationship remains strained, she's encouraged to reach out for help from a loved one 

Though they seemed to have vanished like Tate, Caroline has a vision that may shock everyone involved 

Because of her involvement with Eduardo, Gabi finds herself in a spooky situation, which may lead to deadly consequences 

Dario is still skeptical about overly involving himself with Eduardo, as he still doesn't trust his father 

Still battling Chad for custody of Thomas, Jennifer may receive help from a shocking source, if they can be trusted 

Jennifer and Chad still can't come to terms over Thomas, and their battle turns a bit uglier than before 

As Jennifer gets another "ghostly" visit from Jack, Chad finds himself coming face to face with his father, Stefano 


J.J. rips into Chad, but they both may face something much worse when words of Abigail's death is reported 


Still exuberant over facing a new, brighter chapter in her life, Chloe is sidelined when she finds out she's pregnant 


A rattled Chloe remains unsure about what to do with the baby, but decides to confide in Philip 


As Chloe laments that Deimos is definitely the baby's father, Philip pledges his loyalty and help to Chloe 


Chloe receives another shocker when she runs into Nicole and discovers Nicole's feelings for Deimos run deep 


Deimos finally finds the honest answer he's been looking for when Nicole admits her feelings for him 

Consumed with passion, Nicole and Deimos make love, but when he brings up the future, things take a turn 

Nicole is touched by Deimos' dream of their life together but is saddened about her inability to have children 

As an overwhelmed Nicole pushes Deimos away, Hope and Rafe find themselves closer than ever before 

Rafe and Hope share a night of romance now that she's healthier and much happier than ever before 

Steve remains unhappy about Fynn's involvement with Kayla, but it may be too late for him to do anything 

Mystery surrounds Jade as she and Joey continue to canoodle, much to Kayla's ongoing dismay 

Claire may be in for more than she bargained for as Chloe's new assistant, but she remains steadfast 

Before things wrap up for the Olympic hiatus, one last thing may end up a game-changer for all of Salem 

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Prediction: Chloe will claim Phillip is the father. Prictor will call her a whoreslutbitch for months and then the truth will be revealed. He'll call her a whoreslutbitch so more and threaten to take away Parker from hr. Deimos will also call her a whoreslutbitch and there will be a custody battle, Bonus points if Nicole also gets pregnant and decides to tell Deimos the baby is Dario's because she's decided she can't trust him. Even more bonus points if these truths are exposed at the same time during a public event. 

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Bonus points if Marlena accidentally finds incriminating photos. Or a video to play at St. Luke's...

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Rafe and Hope share a night of romance now that she's healthier and much happier than ever before.

So Bo boinks her after she's nearly choked to death...and Rafe boinks her after she's been in an explosion and had her spleen removed...what gentlemen! Can't you guys wait a bit?

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Before things wrap up for the Olympic hiatus, one last thing may end up a game-changer for all of Salem 

I know they feel they have to tease something, but really now...what could possibly be entertaining? Paul stealing Tate because he was programmed by Yo Ling?

I just doubt it'll be anything actually good.

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How about Oprheus coming back and be the one behind the kidnapping  of Tate, to screw with Jarlena, to finish what he started years ago..He did have Marlena for parts of her missing years..If not Orpheus, what about  his two kids or perhaps his grandkids out for revenge...Plus, Orpheus had a valid reason to hate Jarlena...More so than Stefano ever did...It was a traumatic event that turned him into a sociopath.. An Oprheus return would involve Jarlena, Victor, Hope, Roman, Kayla, Steve and even Shane and Kim...I doubt the show would ever be that good and actually do that..It will probably be a Dimera, behind Tater Tot's disappearance....

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6 hours ago, Apprentice79 said:

How about Oprheus coming back and be the one behind the kidnapping  of Tate, to screw with Jarlena, to finish what he started years ago..He did have Marlena for parts of her missing years..If not Orpheus, what about  his two kids or perhaps his grandkids out for revenge...Plus, Orpheus had a valid reason to hate Jarlena...More so than Stefano ever did...It was a traumatic event that turned him into a sociopath.. An Oprheus return would involve Jarlena, Victor, Hope, Roman, Kayla, Steve and even Shane and Kim...I doubt the show would ever be that good and actually do that..It will probably be a Dimera, behind Tater Tot's disappearance....

I love this with the exception of Roman.  Yes, storyline wise because it was RealRoman and then RomaJohn, but no Josh Taylor wise, he is just horrendous.

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7 hours ago, DisneyBoy said:

Now that Summer has left Salem...is she gone for good??

Is any soap character ever gone for good? LOL.

I just read a few posts over on the other site that suggest that Lani might be back. Not that we ever saw the character leave, but we did know the actress was gone.  Apparently there was a instagram pic of an extra and SS on Jul 18th, the day before the 13,000 episode party.  And SS was in the pictures from the party. So ...

As for Summer, was there something on the show to suggest she was gone?  I haven't watched in 2 weeks, and though I still read the boards, I'm sure I'm missing stuff.

Also sounds like there will be a scene with Shane sometime this week.

15 hours ago, DisneyBoy said:

Oh wait...*slaps forehead* the cliffhanger is that Jade is Steve's daughter. Duh!

Dena wouldn't let that fall through the cracks after setting it up.

Joey and Jane are having sex so I would hope someone would have the decency to stop Dena from making them siblings if that's where she wanted to go.

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