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If Sonny's opposition to seeing his parents split up and move on to other relationships were shown to be because of Sonny's ambivalence about the end of his own marriage, and his lack of closure on Will's death, or some wish for the simplicity and safety of an earlier time in his life when his parents were his model for marital success, and his personal proof that love really could conquer all, then I'd count it as a breakthrough; but I'm afraid swtrgrl is quite correct, and that's not the way the show will have it. Likewise, I think if Lucas were involved in a conflict with Sonny over Ari G's happiness, that could be really interesting and moving. So of course the show's not going to be interested in that.

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Well said.

There's a way to do it, but I get the sense Sonny will show up essentially to make eyes at Paul from the get-go.

 

But...the show did realize how badly they screwed up Aiden and Bo and brought them back...maybe they'll suddenly have people missing Will too?

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My dream is that Will comes back and has this convo with Sonny:

I fucked up big time but I loved you with all my heart. You could barely honor me at my funeral. You abandoned Ariana Grace when you left me. You abandoned her again when you left after my funeral. You have failed our daughter and my memory. Go be with Paul. I will seek out Neil and have tons of amazing sex. Peace out, Kiriakis.

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4 hours ago, DisneyBoy said:

Who was Neil?

Will's first gay kiss. He got drunk playing beer pong with him in HTS. Walked off and Neil followed him. Brilliant scene showing Will's pain and struggle with his homosexual urges. And Sonny saw the whole thing. It was all before Will really came out at all. 
Neil also provided Will's alibi for Stefano's "murder." They were together at The Spot when it happened. Neil came forward. Unfortunately, that's what outted Will to Roman...and then all of Salem. 
 

Jesse Kristopherson is hot.  he played neil

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They actually did a rewrite at one point where Sonny told Will that he knew he (Will) was gay when he saw Will kiss "my buddy Neil". There was no indication in that scene that Sonny and Neil even knew each other.  But I did love Will's reply, "That was gay?"

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Brian Dattilo does sound like a nice guy.  And he's a good actor and important to the history of this show, whether regime after regime of writers recognize it or not.  This quote really got me:

"So, basically, Lucas is a tumbleweed."

I mean, they can't even give Lucas a throwaway line about what he does for a living or where he lives?  TIIC should be embarrassed.  Giving BD nothing for years and then throwing Lucas into a marriage with a judgemental shrew like Adrienne is not right.  (Nothing against JE - she sounds like a lovely person.)

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I feel equally crappy for JE, who was a delight on Another World.

I don't see how I could muster interest in them working out as a couple. I'm just waiting for Hurricane Sami to blow through. And is it just me, or is Bryan also thinking along those lines...? 

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If Sonny disapproves of Adrienne and Lucas getting married he would be giving her a taste of her own medicine since she was the leader of the I Hate Will club. And he would be inadvertently doing Lucas a favor if he managed to bust up that farce of a relationship. 

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16 hours ago, Rick Kitchen said:

They actually did a rewrite at one point where Sonny told Will that he knew he (Will) was gay when he saw Will kiss "my buddy Neil". There was no indication in that scene that Sonny and Neil even knew each other.  But I did love Will's reply, "That was gay?"

I loved every bit of that interaction...where Will came out to Sonny. It was lovely. It was heartfelt (the thanks for helping me, I couldn't have gotten as far as I have without you). It was funny. 

But yes, that "my buddy" thing was stupid. They (the writers) forget their own background on characters.

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1 hour ago, Rick Kitchen said:

I've begun to wonder if Sonny's return has something to do with Deimos taking over all of Victor's assets.  After all, Sonny was working for Victor in Paris, and now I guess he doesn't have a job.

This is exactly the boring kind of shit these fucked up writers would do, too....make business why Sonny came home. I still think it's about the wedding, though.

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17 hours ago, DisneyBoy said:

I feel equally crappy for JE, who was a delight on Another World.

I don't see how I could muster interest in them working out as a couple. I'm just waiting for Hurricane Sami to blow through. And is it just me, or is Bryan also thinking along those lines...? 

I hope Hurricane Sami returns to Salem with proof Will is alive, and being held captive, by who else, but some idiot Dimera.  Sami wants Lucas to take care of Allie, Johnny, and Sydney while Sami and Kate go rescue Will.  Kate tells Lucas he is a fool if he doesn't reunite with Sami, Lucas points out Kate hates Sami, Kate tells Lucas considering his other choices for wives, Sami is the better option, and tells Lucas since he has gone to the light side, she needs Sami for her dark side as a co-conspirator.  Sami and Lucas get back together, Sami, Lucas and Kate go find Will, new show with them.

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Spoilers for Jun 27 -  Jul 1

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Monday June 27:
A twisted friendship begins between Andre & Kate. 

Tuesday June 28:
Summer tells Dario that Clark’s sister is in town asking questions;  Aiden does all he can to remind Hope of the love they once shared for one another as they spend their first day at the Green Mountain Lodge. 

Wednesday June 29:
A sleep-deprived & stressed Theresa takes Tate out to the park & ends up falling asleep.

Thursday June 30:
Blanca celebrates with Dario when she learns she got the job as a nurse at the hospital. 

Friday July 1:
Nicole is upset when Deimos reveals he wants to get revenge on Kate first before he announces to the world that he's alive.
 

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They really do like recycling SLs.  Didn't Kate end up married to Stefano because he was blackmailing her/helping her cover up trying to kill Daniel and blame Chloe for it?  So is it going to be a repeat with Kate/Andre?  Andre helps Kate with Deimos in return for Kate helping Andre with - ?????

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On June 17, 2016 at 8:24 AM, LeftPhalange said:

If Sonny disapproves of Adrienne and Lucas getting married he would be giving her a taste of her own medicine since she was the leader of the I Hate Will club. 

As well as the Recording Secretary. She was always trying to get Sonny to attend the monthly meetings, and reading to him from the official minutes when he tried to get out of going.

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More Spoilers for Jun 27 -  Jul 1

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Monday, June 27, 2016

Brady chastises Theresa who admits she's still insecure about Summer. 

Tuesday, June 28, 2016
Blanca encourages Rafe to let go of Hope. 

Wed June 29
Nicole arrive at Chloe’s 2 speak with her n person & is overwhelmed 2 find Deimos alive.

Thursday, June 30, 2016 
Chad is shocked by a note from Abigail he finds in the living room. 

Fri July 1st
A suspicious Rafe gets the security footage from jail,& finds out Aiden visited Andre when he was in jail. 

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Is the story still that Andre was the one who married Kristen back in the day, while pretending to be Tony? And if so...did Kristen know this?

If that's how that went down, then he did bed her.

Mostly, I'd like Kate to hate him for kidnapping Sami and mocking Will....but I don't think Kate even knows about Sami's escape or the money she stole...

Does Chad know Sami stole money?? I know he was brainwashed into chasing after Belle, but I didn't catch whether that was about getting the money back, or if he remembered that after coming back to his senses.

 

This show makes no sense ...

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This show makes no sense ...

Very true.  This show hasn't made sense in years.

Kate wouldn't have wasted time on Daniel, Rafe or Deimos.  Have sex with them yes.  Care about what they do, not really.  She would replace them with the next pretty boy that came along.  Kate is driven by power and money, not her emotions.  She'll constantly interfere in her children's lives, she's vindictive and will seek revenge in certain cases, but not for some idiot guy that can easily be replaced.

It would have made more sense for Sami to keep some of the Dimera money, and give some of it to Kate and Lucas, not Belle.

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More on last week of June 2016

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Mon June 27th
Thrady announce to  Magic & Summer that they are getting married n Aug. 

Wednesday June 29th
Deimos agrees to clear Nicole’s name on one condition. 

Wednesday June 29th
Summer returns to her hotel room to find a satchel filled with money & instructions. 

Thu June 30
Deimos agrees to return with Nicole,who is both relieved & intrigued by what that might mean for them.

Friday July 1st
Aiden and Hope share a warm moment back at the cabin. 

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21 hours ago, bobcat1946 said:

Kate and Andre.  Why he is almost a virgin compared to Kate who has banged nine of ten men in Salem.

Kate has been rode hard a put away wet for years.   Besides her and Andre I could see.   Hes a serial killer with a black heart and she's desperate call girl looking for a man but love the bad ones.   Match made in heaven if you ask me! 

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And there is more Jun 27 -  Jul 1 

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Mon June 27
Chloe is horrified to learn that Kate is setting Nicole up to take the fall for Deimos' murder.

Tuesday, June 28, 2016
Brady calls Summer on her lies & she admits to the accusations. 

Wednesday, June 29, 2016
A frantic Chad puts his men on the search for Abigail. 

Thursday, June 30, 2016
Philip has a surprise encounter with Chloe. 

Friday, July 1, 2016
Andre receives a text from Aiden, demanding to know the latest on their venture. 

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On ‎6‎/‎20‎/‎2016 at 9:56 AM, LeftPhalange said:

Those Deimos/Nicole spoilers kinda make me think they're going to become a couple for real.

When Deimos starts blaming Nicole for all his problems, and does everything he can to ruin her life all while claiming to love her, then I'll know it's true love.  Sarcasm intended.

Oh Chad, don't waste your time.  There are far better things you could be doing.

Brady actually realizes a woman he knows is lying to him so does that mean he might have one functioning brain cell?

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Monday, June 27, 2016

Brady chastises Theresa who admits she's still insecure about Summer. 

 

Brady: STFU. You are a dumbass.

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Oh Chad, don't waste your time.  There are far better things you could be doing.

....like anything.

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On 6/19/2016 at 2:47 PM, DisneyBoy said:

Is the story still that Andre was the one who married Kristen back in the day, while pretending to be Tony? And if so...did Kristen know this?

If that's how that went down, then he did bed her.

Mostly, I'd like Kate to hate him for kidnapping Sami and mocking Will....but I don't think Kate even knows about Sami's escape or the money she stole...

Does Chad know Sami stole money?? I know he was brainwashed into chasing after Belle, but I didn't catch whether that was about getting the money back, or if he remembered that after coming back to his senses.

 

This show makes no sense ...

Yes Chad knows about Sami and the money and he did not care to help recover it so Andre brainwashed him.

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1 hour ago, DisneyBoy said:

Thanks! Now if only I could grasp the reality of all the Tony/Andre retcons...

Tony has always been a grey character that always had a complicated relationship with Stefano. The show always used the Andre card to salvage Tony's character after he had been written into  a corner. JER never understood the character of Tony and wrote him him as a villain. Tony really being Andre never made any sense, since Andre was a psychopath..His obsession with Kristen never made any sense..Andre was a serial killer who enjoyed killing, he used to leave a calling card with his  dead victims...

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July 4-8

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Monday July 4:
Hope/Aiden are headed towards making love, but the memories are too much for Hope; Andre reveals to Chad that he didn’t find the letter; Abigail gave it to him

Tuesday July 5:
Theresa reveals to Brady that she fell asleep while she was out with Tate; Jade shows up at the hospital & tearfully tells Joey her parents want nothing to do with her.

Wednesday July 6:
Nicole questions Chloe about her relationship with Deimos; Shawn is concerned about his relationship stalling with Belle. 

Thu July 7
Chad has a conversation with "Stefano" who tells him Abigail may not be what’s best for Thomas;  Andre reads an article about a downed private plane, this strikes up an idea;  Kate worries that Deimos has returned to seek vengeance for her attempt to drown him in the river.

Friday July 8:
Summer sits on a plane leaving Salem, & cries of a baby are heard right nearby; Hope/Aiden make plans to return to Salem as she apologizes for things not going as they’d planned.

 

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Monday, July 4, 2016
JJ confronts Chad about Abigail. 

Tuesday, July 5, 2016
Kayla admits to Steve that she still isn’t ready to move forward with him. 

Wednesday, July 6, 2016
Chloe reveals to Philip that Deimos is returning to Salem. 

Thursday, July 7, 2016
Chad still doesn’t trust Andre but pretends to be on his side. 

Friday, July 8, 2016 
Rafe grows increasingly suspicious of Aiden. 

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24 minutes ago, DisneyBoy said:

Does "Stefano" mean another Joe cameo?

I hope so.  I think "Harper" and "Duke" appeared to Jack for well over a year after their deaths.  This is a nice way to keep Stefano around and not having to worry about JM's stamina.  Plus, it sorta ends the laughable Stefano As Good Guy metamorphosis we saw over the past dozen years.

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