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Culture Check: How can the tropes and stereotypes we apply to TV personalities impact our fellow posters, and how do we remain mindful of these effects while discussing them? Please review for more on stereotypes and tropes.

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Culture Check: How can we express our opinions and consider the effect our assumptions may have on the people around us? What impact might speculation have on others, especially when we speculate about children or complex issues like neurodiversity?

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12 hours ago, Dibs said:

Yes, children traditionally waited until their parents passed before expecting an inheritance, if they were lucky enough to even get one, but not so much these days with all the entitlement engendered in Gens X and Z. 

Watch your back, Matt!  And then Amy!!!

Isn’t Gen X like 50-60?  I’m guessing you meant Millennials (Zach, Jeremy, Tori, (Audrey though she seems to have her own money))

I don’t like like to broadly paint any generation as a whole, probably because as a Millennial I do not claim the Roloff delegation, well except maybe Molly 😂

I think the problem is Zach and Jeremy never had real jobs where their livelihood depended upon it. To much stuff was handed  to them.  I do consider the show a job but it is not comparable to most jobs at that age. Growing up, Jeremy was Matt’s favorite because I think Matt was trying to live vicariously through him.  Zach was Amy’s favorite because she seemed to use him as an emotional crutch to a shitty marriage.  Both of these things left Zach and Jeremy stunted and it’s why they both think they can be farmers when in reality the most they can probably do is “play farmer”.  They were both extremely coddled and monetarily rewarded for subpar performances.  I mean these were college-aged guys that didn’t even know the state abbreviation for the state they lived
 

 Now Jeremy has married Matt Audrey, dictator that tries to sell us on this manufactured “perfect farm” life, while Zach has married Amy Tori, bulldozer who seems disgruntled with her life, but pretending it’s what she wanted.  Amy and Matt used to tell Zach and Jeremy what to do, now Tori and Audrey do.  The twins never grew up because they never had to, which imo most definitely did increase their feelings of entitlement.  Unfortunately they are thirtysomething brats and unlikely to change. YMMV 😊

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Also, way to go, Amy, throwing Chris under the bus for being late to the charity event!  Welcome to Matt's world.

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27 minutes ago, Dibs said:

But I did find Jackson's "Tori Roloff, I'm going to replace you" comment very odd; where has he heard that before?

Yes, I agree with that.  What 6 year old tells his mother that he’s going to replace her?  I thought maybe I misread that the first time, but yes, it seems like something he would have heard somewhere. 

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On 4/15/2024 at 5:32 PM, Harry Wails said:

it's easy to see where Zach get's his ungrateful jackass personality from, his mother!

The crab apple didn't fall far from the tree with those two.

love your photo...😂

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4 hours ago, Irate Panda said:

Yes, I agree with that.  What 6 year old tells his mother that he’s going to replace her?  I thought maybe I misread that the first time, but yes, it seems like something he would have heard somewhere. 

Watch your back, Matt!  And Amy!  And Lilah!

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2 hours ago, 65mickey said:

I missed Jackson telling Tori that he was going to replace her. Why did he say that?

I don't know WHY he said it, but WHEN he said it was at the end of the berry picking scene.

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14 hours ago, Dibs said:

I don't know WHY he said it, but WHEN he said it was at the end of the berry picking scene.

That is because they've trained this kid to think he is end all, be all of everything. He seems like sweet kid when he's not being a horrible brother to poor Lilah. (When he was banging her in the head with parts to a bed comes to mind...)

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He had to have heard this from Zach. Good luck Zach replacing Tori. I can't imagine anyone else putting up with your lazy self. 

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2 hours ago, EastCoast4Life said:

That is because they've trained this kid to think he is end all, be all of everything. He seems like sweet kid when he's not being a horrible brother to poor Lilah. (When he was banging her in the head with parts to a bed comes to mind...)

In a recent show, Lilah was swinging something around and Tori told her not to knock out her brother. She never reprimanded Jackson that I can remember. 

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2 hours ago, 65mickey said:

He had to have heard this from Zach. Good luck Zach replacing Tori. I can't imagine anyone else putting up with your lazy self. 

Or he heard Tori say it and is smart enough to substitute "Tori" for "Lilah."  I can't imagine Zach ever saying such a thing; remember that box of limp, deflated balls he was trying to pump up?

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1 hour ago, Dibs said:

Or he heard Tori say it and is smart enough to substitute "Tori" for "Lilah."  I can't imagine Zach ever saying such a thing; remember that box of limp, deflated balls he was trying to pump up?

Lol! Zac will spend his entire life trying to pump up his limp, deflated balls. Good luck with that.

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53 minutes ago, EastCoast4Life said:

Tori still posts videos of Lilah, and guess what? She's still not talking! She can dance all night, but does she speak?

Yes she can speak.

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2 hours ago, Dibs said:

Normally, for her age?

I’m not sure what the average is but I have a granddaughter and a great niece who are Lilah’s age and they’re way ahead of Lilah in their talking.

It breaks my heart to see Lilah struggling, she’s such a cute, sweet little girl and she has so many challenges ahead of her.

She’s such a happy child in spite of it all and I hope that continues, she really loves being a big sister to Josiah, the videos of them together are very cute.

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Considering that she must be, what, FIVE by now?  I'd say she's way behind for her age in speech...  But Tori's back pocket!  She's been too busy shilling merchandise online, making YouTube videos of her kids, and podcasting with Zach lately to do much tutoring, but that may change since she recently put her foot in it and turned off some fans.  Surely Lilah's in school by now, so maybe professional help will be at hand.

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She's still a year out from public TK.  I've heard different opinions, but a lot of people think they are and will be sending the kids to private Christian school which won't provide speech services.  Although the local pubic school system would have to provide them if requested and proven necessary.  I've seen kids with worse speech at five, but that doesn't mean she doesn't need help.  

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5 hours ago, Absolom said:

sending the kids to private Christian school which won't provide speech services. 

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that if a child attends a school that doesn't provide "special services" (like speech therapy) for lack of resources, that the school is State/Federally mandated to send the child to a venue where she could receive these services or hire a speech therapist to tutor the child in her school.  

I say this because I worked in criminal defense for MANY years and if we had an inmate in the County Jail attending school(we had a high school for all juvenile offenders in custody) and had special needs, that's what was mandated.  Either the inmate was bused to a specialized location (with a corrections officer) or the professional was brought into the jail to provide the service. 

I'm not sure if the State or Fed govt paid for it, but one of them did.

I cannot believe that a youngster in the U.S. with special needs like Lilah would be denied professional services.  ALSO, there is never a "means test" to pay for the service, so the parents are not asked to pay. In a jail setting,(when I was involved) only indigent people were not bailed out so a "means test" for parents ability to pay never came up; HOWEVER, we had juveniles charged with SERIOUS crimes who were sent to PRISON (where every socio-economic level was involved) and there was never a "means test" to receive "special services" that the State/Feds paid for. 

BTW, for those who aren't aware, JAIL is where pre-sentence offenders are housed and PRISON is where sentenced offenders are sent.

So, I hope of that basis, Lilah will get the services she NEEDS regardless of where she goes to school.

 

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30 minutes ago, pdlinda said:

So, I hope of that basis, Lilah will get the services she NEEDS regardless of where she goes to school.

 

This article may be of interest to you.

For some reason it won’t let me link it. It’s at wapave.org. The title of the article is, Navigating Special Education in Private School.

 

 

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53 minutes ago, pdlinda said:

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that if a child attends a school that doesn't provide "special services" (like speech therapy) for lack of resources, that the school is State/Federally mandated to send the child to a venue where she could receive these services or hire a speech therapist to tutor the child in her school.  

You didn't quote the next sentence that answered your question.  The local public school system would have to provide the service if requested.  Why if requested?  They won't know the child exists if they aren't made aware.  

Public schools are mandated to provide the services.  Private schools can't be mandated to make the arrangements.  In fact, some private schools don't accept students who have too many special needs.  

Yes, it's a process.  Many parents decide private school isn't worth the hassle depending on the child's needs and move them to public school where it's easier to access services. Other people who can afford it, take the child on their own to a private therapist.  Not to burst anyone's bubble, but public school funds and slots for children needing services are limited.  So while a private speech therapist might recommend twice weekly sessions, the school may only be able to provide weekly or every other week sessions.  

Also everywhere that I have lived in the US, juvenile detention education falls under the public system and is managed by some portion of the local school board.  Where I live now it's under the county board of education.  

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1 hour ago, Absolom said:

Also everywhere that I have lived in the US, juvenile detention education falls under the public system and is managed by some portion of the local school board.  Where I live now it's under the county board of education.  

Yes,  I would agree with that...Our Jail high school was surely part of our public school system (or, in our state we also have charter schools available).

1 hour ago, ginger90 said:

This article may be of interest to you.

Thank you.  I will read it!

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