Season 9 First Looks

[motorcitymom65]

I would be surprised to see Lu leave on her own. None of the other ho'wives have worked as hard to secure contracts as Lu has. But I suppose the argument could also be made that she is the one most willing to leave if she doesn't get what she wants. I don't think Tom is a pauper, but I also don't think he is loaded with financial resources (JMO). Lu has had a modicum of success with some of her branding (I think clothes), but nothing that has stuck to the point where I believe it is viable if she weren't on the show. She would not have the opportunity to record another song, or probably sell another garment were it not for the show. I don't think it has brought her huge success, but I think she has done a pretty good job of turning this show into a fairly short-term lucrative deal for her. But it is all tied up in this show.  It all goes away when the show goes away. My guess is if she wasn't on this show, we would see her trying to do something else, kind of like Brandi did. Maybe Marriage Bootcamp. 

[zoeysmom]

49 minutes ago, motorcitymom65 said:

I would be surprised to see Lu leave on her own. None of the other ho'wives have worked as hard to secure contracts as Lu has. But I suppose the argument could also be made that she is the one most willing to leave if she doesn't get what she wants. I don't think Tom is a pauper, but I also don't think he is loaded with financial resources (JMO). Lu has had a modicum of success with some of her branding (I think clothes), but nothing that has stuck to the point where I believe it is viable if she weren't on the show. She would not have the opportunity to record another song, or probably sell another garment were it not for the show. I don't think it has brought her huge success, but I think she has done a pretty good job of turning this show into a fairly short-term lucrative deal for her. But it is all tied up in this show.  It all goes away when the show goes away. My guess is if she wasn't on this show, we would see her trying to do something else, kind of like Brandi did. Maybe Marriage Bootcamp. 

This is just my opinion but I do think Luann is far wealthier than the house she got in the divorce which was $8 million dollars.  A home they paid under a million for initially.  When the Count and Luann were married he was working on a huge project in Cuba- I  am guessing Luann cashed in on a few things.   Wednesday night she launched another Countess line.  She has another line coming out in September-linens.  I would agree in that it is not Skinnygirl successful, but she is a RH that keeps getting asked back to sell things.  Even Kyle-whose stuff sold out almost instantly has not done another line.  (Rinna is the exception because she has been doing it for years.) These lines most likely provide six figures at a pop. I would agree their viability would suffer without the RHONY exposure.  I don't see her doing another candid reality show-I do see her doing a show where she is a host-something like what she was doing before RHs.  I don't think Bravo wants to fully let go of her.

When Bravo went nuts and fired Jill, Alex and Kelly I really thought they would have included Luann and kept Alex. Somebody at Bravo knows the allure of the Countess title.  May not do much for me but others love it.  She had a bad fifth season largely due to Carole and her comments.  Heather zeroed in on Sonja.  The three newbies couldn't carry the show, it was dangerously close to being cancelled and Luann sat out the first part of Season Six over contract demands.  When the dust settled Bravo made her a friend of and Luann's side was delighted with the money.  The season proved they needed Luann more than they thought as she hosted and had a presence in every episode after the third episode.

So we are now going towards Season 10, and what can they do new?  At some point they need to decide if it is going to be a bunch of middle aged single women sitting around talking about farting and anal sex or if they are going to try and bring a family element like some of the other franchises BH and OC.  I can see Luann putting her marriage before the show and doing drive bys at parties or lunching with Dorinda and Sonja.  The trend seems to be to bring retired/fired RH back.  I am not ruling out Jill. 

It seems Luann is not without a sense of humor when it comes to her station in life-in the really big picture:   

[motorcitymom65]

3 hours ago, zoeysmom said:

When Bravo went nuts and fired Jill, Alex and Kelly I really thought they would have included Luann and kept Alex. Somebody at Bravo knows the allure of the Countess title.  May not do much for me but others love it.  She had a bad fifth season largely due to Carole and her comments.  Heather zeroed in on Sonja.  The three newbies couldn't carry the show, it was dangerously close to being cancelled and Luann sat out the first part of Season Six over contract demands.  When the dust settled Bravo made her a friend of and Luann's side was delighted with the money.  The season proved they needed Luann more than they thought as she hosted and had a presence in every episode after the third episode.

 

I think this is giving Carole too much power. Some would argue that Lu had a bad fifth season because she fucked a pirate while in a committed relationship and then tried to lie about it, and ended up looking like a cheating fool. My guess, if you asked Lu, was she was much more upset about that element of the season than she was in anything that Carole ever said about her. 

[zoeysmom]

7 minutes ago, motorcitymom65 said:

I think this is giving Carole too much power. Some would argue that Lu had a bad fifth season because she fucked a pirate while in a committed relationship and then tried to lie about it, and ended up looking like a cheating fool. My guess, if you asked Lu, was she was much more upset about that element of the season than she was in anything that Carole ever said about her. 

Carole had snarky, snarky interviews about Luann from the time she set foot on the show- before the pirate.  Luann said it really bothered her and I am going to let her have it.  She said it at the Reunion. She was very upset by Carole.  The pirate thing was resolved, but I do think it gave Luann the power that if she was going to have to be totally exposed on camera-she was going to be paid for it.  Obviously the easy answer is done screw up.  Every season since Luann has been a central if not the central figure. Even when Ramona left a guy in an empty room it became all about Luann. She has even upstaged Bethenny with the Tom stuff and the wedding.  BTW Luann said the same thing about Bethenny and her low blows in the talking heads the first season. 

I have never understood how these people can say the most awful things about each other in their confessionals and then be shocked the other person is mad.  Vanderpump is another that comes to mind-she just cannot fathom why the other women get mad at her.

[motorcitymom65]

32 minutes ago, zoeysmom said:

Carole had snarky, snarky interviews about Luann from the time she set foot on the show- before the pirate.  Luann said it really bothered her and I am going to let her have it.  She said it at the Reunion. She was very upset by Carole.  The pirate thing was resolved, but I do think it gave Luann the power that if she was going to have to be totally exposed on camera-she was going to be paid for it.  Obviously the easy answer is done screw up.  Every season since Luann has been a central if not the central figure. Even when Ramona left a guy in an empty room it became all about Luann. She has even upstaged Bethenny with the Tom stuff and the wedding.  BTW Luann said the same thing about Bethenny and her low blows in the talking heads the first season. 

I have never understood how these people can say the most awful things about each other in their confessionals and then be shocked the other person is mad.  Vanderpump is another that comes to mind-she just cannot fathom why the other women get mad at her.

Yes, Lu was hurt by the things that Carole said, mainly because she was unaware that Carole felt that way about her. Many, including me (who liked Carole immediately and didn't like Lu) felt like at times Carole was a bit unfair. Not all the time, but it seemed clear that Carole didn't like Lu from the beginning based on seeing her in prior seasons, and didn't always give her a fair shake. Other times she was dead-on and 100% correct in what she said. But that is not the reason that Lu had a bad season. If anything, people felt like she was being a bit mistreated by Carole. She became more sympathetic to some than she had ever been before. She had a bad season because of the pirate, and there is just no way around that. Nothing that Carole said hurt her family, or caused her issues in her relationship with her man. Issues that Lu herself admitted came about because of the pirate reveal and her subsequent sloppy attempts to cover it up. She showed herself to be quite the opposite of the person she had proclaimed herself to be prior to that, and the person that the others had always said she was away from the camera. Lu was revealed as a fake and a phony, and that is why Lu had a bad season. 

She had a great S6 because the others rallied around her when she was demoted and filmed with her as much as possible. She got along with everyone - well until Sonja did her thing - which was a wise decision because she needed people to invite her to things and include her as much as possible. If no one liked her and didn't film with her, she would be in trouble. Luckily she had Heather who promised to film with her at every possible opportunity, and to try and woo Carole to do the same. Had they not been committed to making sure she was included, things might have turned out differently for her in that season. 

[zoeysmom]

7 minutes ago, motorcitymom65 said:

Yes, Lu was hurt by the things that Carole said, mainly because she was unaware that Carole felt that way about her. Many, including me (who liked Carole immediately and didn't like Lu) felt like at times Carole was a bit unfair. Not all the time, but it seemed clear that Carole didn't like Lu from the beginning based on seeing her in prior seasons, and didn't always give her a fair shake. Other times she was dead-on and 100% correct in what she said. But that is not the reason that Lu had a bad season. If anything, people felt like she was being a bit mistreated by Carole. She became more sympathetic to some than she had ever been before. She had a bad season because of the pirate, and there is just no way around that. Nothing that Carole said hurt her family, or caused her issues in her relationship with her man. Issues that Lu herself admitted came about because of the pirate reveal and her subsequent sloppy attempts to cover it up. She showed herself to be quite the opposite of the person she had proclaimed herself to be prior to that, and the person that the others had always said she was away from the camera. Lu was revealed as a fake and a phony, and that is why Lu had a bad season. 

She had a great S6 because the others rallied around her when she was demoted and filmed with her as much as possible. She got along with everyone - well until Sonja did her thing - which was a wise decision because she needed people to invite her to things and include her as much as possible. If no one liked her and didn't film with her, she would be in trouble. Luckily she had Heather who promised to film with her at every possible opportunity, and to try and woo Carole to do the same. Had they not been committed to making sure she was included, things might have turned out differently for her in that season. 

I can only go by what Luann said hurt her.  The pirate stuff happened very late in the season.  It was the constant comments by Carole.   I was never crazy about Luann and I thought she was a little foolish to jump in so deep with Jacques as they had very different end result desires and much like the Count he travelled and wasn't around and she seemed like the type that needs someone.  It just doesn't stop with these women living in the past.  I really don't like people who borrow on others' slights to justify their own rudeness.  

I don't think it takes a lot awareness to understand when one call another names and make the comments such as the ones Carole, Ramona and Bethenny do about Luann it does hurt her children.  It may be in the name of entertainment but it still hurts the children.  There is such a thing as letting go-Luann's behavior had zero affect on Carole.  She and Adam were going to date whether Luann like it or not. There is a reason Luann has drawn a line in the sand this year and walked out a time or two-it is time to stop.  Dorinda needs to get the memo.  Her drunk thing about Luann pretending she doesn't have a past when the other women are talking about their fucked up dating lives is just all kinds of wrong.  When a married person hears about how tough the dating scene is, it is not wrong to say, "glad I am married."   There is this weird vibe-if one tells another how unacceptable their behavior is and that same person changes, it isn't enough, they go backwards and keep carping on the behavior.  What good does it do to change?  If all one hears about is the past.  In all fairness any comments about Luann's singing and insistence to write and produce songs is fair game.  She just won't quit it.

[motorcitymom65]

26 minutes ago, zoeysmom said:

I can only go by what Luann said hurt her.  The pirate stuff happened very late in the season.  It was the constant comments by Carole.   I was never crazy about Luann and I thought she was a little foolish to jump in so deep with Jacques as they had very different end result desires and much like the Count he travelled and wasn't around and she seemed like the type that needs someone.  It just doesn't stop with these women living in the past.  I really don't like people who borrow on others' slights to justify their own rudeness.  

 

I guess it is possible that Lu was more upset about someone that she had known for a mere few months making snarky comments about her than she was to be shown betraying the man that she loved on camera. Humiliating him and embarrassing her children. It's certainly possible, but even though I don't always think that much of Lu, I think more of her than that. 

But, getting back to the First Looks, Bravo has taken down the sneak peeks for this episode. Has anyone seen any new ones anywhere else? Does anyone know how many more episodes are left? 

[Avon.Blakes7]

43 minutes ago, zoeysmom said:

I can only go by what Luann said hurt her.  The pirate stuff happened very late in the season.  It was the constant comments by Carole.   I was never crazy about Luann and I thought she was a little foolish to jump in so deep with Jacques as they had very different end result desires and much like the Count he travelled and wasn't around and she seemed like the type that needs someone.  It just doesn't stop with these women living in the past.  I really don't like people who borrow on others' slights to justify their own rudeness.  

I don't think it takes a lot awareness to understand when one call another names and make the comments such as the ones Carole, Ramona and Bethenny do about Luann it does hurt her children.  It may be in the name of entertainment but it still hurts the children.  There is such a thing as letting go-Luann's behavior had zero affect on Carole.  She and Adam were going to date whether Luann like it or not. There is a reason Luann has drawn a line in the sand this year and walked out a time or two-it is time to stop.  Dorinda needs to get the memo.  Her drunk thing about Luann pretending she doesn't have a past when the other women are talking about their fucked up dating lives is just all kinds of wrong.  When a married person hears about how tough the dating scene is, it is not wrong to say, "glad I am married."   There is this weird vibe-if one tells another how unacceptable their behavior is and that same person changes, it isn't enough, they go backwards and keep carping on the behavior.  What good does it do to change?  If all one hears about is the past.  In all fairness any comments about Luann's singing and insistence to write and produce songs is fair game.  She just won't quit it.

Well if Lu would keep her shady comments to herself, Carole and Bethenny wouldn't feel the need or empowerment to retaliate! Like most "children," you have situations where someone started it and Lu "starts it!" Her pretention will be the death of her IMO! When it all crashes around her, the front should crash as well! ;-(

[zoeysmom]

2 hours ago, motorcitymom65 said:

ess it is possible that Lu was more upset about someone that she had known for a mere few months making snarky comments about her than she was to be shown betraying the man that she loved on camera. Humiliating him and embarrassing her children. It's certainly possible, but even though I don't always think that much of Lu, I think more of her than that. 

But, getting back to the First Looks, Bravo has taken down the sneak peeks for this episode. Has anyone seen any new ones anywhere else? Does anyone know how many more episodes are left? 

Luann can be upset by both.  Most kids love their parents and forgive them-for things far worse than cheating on their significant other.  They don't necessarily forgive people who attack and belittle their parents.  There maybe e 18 including the finale.  So it sounds like they may do the Kilt thing (which we be out of order) and probably a couple of episodes in Mexico and the finale. My guess is producers were hoping for a result in the Jason trial and left some time open if there was a verdict.  Doesn't seem it will happen.  Maybe there are fewer episodes.    I think they are asking for Reunion questions.  So it must film pretty quick.

Edited July 3, 2017 by zoeysmom

[WireWrap]

23 minutes ago, Avon.Blakes7 said:

Well if Lu would keep her shady comments to herself, Carole and Bethenny wouldn't feel the need or empowerment to retaliate! Like most "children," you have situations where someone started it and Lu "starts it!" Her pretention will be the death of her IMO! When it all crashes around her, the front should crash as well! ;-(

Luann didn't start the fight between her/Bethenny last season in the Berkshires. And the Queen of shady/nasty comments about the others is Bethenny! LOL

[breezy424]

Saw a commercial tonight for RHNY.  Ro says that she and Beth are like oil and vinegar.  Beth in a TH says I think she meant water.  Cracked me up.  My thought - now Ro thinks they're like salad dressing. :)

[biakbiak]

5 minutes ago, breezy424 said:

Saw a commercial tonight for RHNY.  Ro says that she and Beth are like oil and vinegar.  Beth in a TH says I think she meant water.  Cracked me up.  My thought - now Ro thinks they're like salad dressing. :)

Actually while the common saying is oil and water, Ro saying oil and vinegar because they need to be mixed vigorously to combine but will always eventually separate so some people do use that combo. It might be one of the few times one of her malaprops makes sense.

[motorcitymom65]

6 minutes ago, biakbiak said:

Actually while the common saying is oil and water, Ro saying oil and vinegar because they need to be mixed vigorously to combine but will always eventually separate so some people do use that combo. It might be one of the few times one of her malaprops makes sense.

Yes, but you have to believe she got it right by accident. 

[breezy424]

16 minutes ago, biakbiak said:

Actually while the common saying is oil and water, Ro saying oil and vinegar because they need to be mixed vigorously to combine but will always eventually separate so some people do use that combo. It might be one of the few times one of her malaprops makes sense.

Yeah but you can eventually get them to mix...and make a nice dressing.  I don't think it's the same with oil and water.  Let's discuss because we have three days until the next episode.  :)  I think just about everything else has gone over with a fine tooth comb.

You know I'm just having fun....

[biakbiak]

3 minutes ago, breezy424 said:

Yeah but you can eventually get them to mix...and make a nice dressing.  I don't think it's the same with oil and water.  L

Right but that's my point under the right circumstances Bethanny and Ro can mix well but it's temporary and will soon separate like vinegrettes do because their bond like oil and vinegar is temporary. 

[Avon.Blakes7]

5 minutes ago, biakbiak said:

Right but that's my point under the right circumstances Bethanny and Ro can mix well but it's temporary and will soon separate like vinegrettes do because their bond like oil and vinegar is temporary. 

Well after Ramona's last drunken tirade, it might as well not be shaken; permanently separated would be my guess! That Brynn thing still bothers me! Why? What did it serve but to alienate Bethenny from her for all time?

[film noire]

15 minutes ago, breezy424 said:

Yeah but you can eventually get them to mix...and make a nice dressing.  I don't think it's the same with oil and water.  Let's discuss because we have three days until the next episode.  :) 

Do they add any herbs to the dressing?

Lavender, say? ;)

5 minutes ago, Avon.Blakes7 said:

Well after Ramona's last drunken tirade, it might as well not be shaken; permanently separated would be my guess! That Brynn thing still bothers me! Why? What did it serve but to alienate Bethenny from her for all time?

It felt like some weird kind of comeuppance -- Ramona had that creepy excitement she gets when she feels like she's throwing down four aces -- did Bethenny ever go after Avery, in the past?

Edited July 3, 2017 by film noire

[breezy424]

40 minutes ago, biakbiak said:

Right but that's my point under the right circumstances Bethanny and Ro can mix well but it's temporary and will soon separate like vinegrettes do because their bond like oil and vinegar is temporary. 

I don't know.  I think they're beyond that point.  So, it's to the oil and water level for me. 

Of course, we do have Beth saying that she'll never talk to Ro again but we know that won't happen because they're coworkers.  But I don't think it's at the vinaigrette level.  I could be wrong.

Edited July 3, 2017 by breezy424

[zoeysmom]

Ramona after years of being included because others alternately feared or used her for their own nefarious purposes have finally just decided to wash their hands of the bitch.  I always thought Carole wise because she held Ramona at arm's length-this year she just out and out insulted her.  Never to be outdone, after saying she didn't have room in her life for Jill Zarin and negativity, she magically made up with her. 

Sonja crap is getting old as well. "I am tired of apologizing for being me," no bitch you are being asked to apologize because you hurt the other person's feelings and they have asked you not to. 

These two will be a real treat in Mexico.

Edited July 3, 2017 by zoeysmom

[BBHN]

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I would be surprised to see Lu leave on her own. None of the other ho'wives have worked as hard to secure contracts as Lu has. But I suppose the argument could also be made that she is the one most willing to leave if she doesn't get what she wants. I don't think Tom is a pauper, but I also don't think he is loaded with financial resources (JMO). Lu has had a modicum of success with some of her branding (I think clothes), but nothing that has stuck to the point where I believe it is viable if she weren't on the show. She would not have the opportunity to record another song, or probably sell another garment were it not for the show. I don't think it has brought her huge success, but I think she has done a pretty good job of turning this show into a fairly short-term lucrative deal for her. But it is all tied up in this show.  It all goes away when the show goes away. My guess is if she wasn't on this show, we would see her trying to do something else, kind of like Brandi did. Maybe Marriage Bootcamp. 

Lu definitely isn't leaving this show, unless she is forced to or somehow finds a better reality show to be on.

Luann's branding has been ok but definitely needs this show to keep going. And good luck having another music single without this show ;-)

Lu did ok in her divorce, and Tom seems to be doing well financially, though they're definitely not at the top of the wealth chain we have seen regarding this franchise as a whole. I'd lump the two of them together at a combined $25million, but that's just my rough estimate. Probably enough to retire in NYC and still maintain their homes in the Hamptons and West Palm Beach?

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Even Kyle-whose stuff sold out almost instantly has not done another line.

Kyle has a chain of boutiques which has expanded nicely over the last few years.

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She had a bad fifth season largely due to Carole and her comments

She had a bad season because she had a bad season, not because of Carole and her comments.

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The three newbies couldn't carry the show, it was dangerously close to being cancelled and Luann sat out the first part of Season Six over contract demands.  When the dust settled Bravo made her a friend of and Luann's side was delighted with the money.  The season proved they needed Luann more than they thought as she hosted and had a presence in every episode after the third episode.

Season 5 on average had higher ratings than season 6, so it isn't like Luann appearing in every episode after the third episode had all that much of an impact.

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 Some would argue that Lu had a bad fifth season because she fucked a pirate while in a committed relationship and then tried to lie about it, and ended up looking like a cheating fool.

Yup.

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Luann's behavior had zero affect on Carole.

I'm sure Carole appreciated being called a pedophile lol

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I guess it is possible that Lu was more upset about someone that she had known for a mere few months making snarky comments about her than she was to be shown betraying the man that she loved on camera. Humiliating him and embarrassing her children.

Let's try and find a way to blame Carole for that too lol

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Yes, but you have to believe she got it right by accident. 

Well, she did use the word crestfallen correctly a few weeks back...maybe she has a few brain spurts every once in a while? ;)

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[Avon.Blakes7]

56 minutes ago, film noire said:

Do they add any herbs to the dressing?

Lavender, say? ;)

It felt like some weird kind of comeuppance -- Ramona had that creepy excitement she gets when she feels like she's throwing down four aces -- did Bethenny ever go after Avery, in the past?

I'm not that faithful a watcher, but my guess would be "no!" Bethenny's one of the worst, but she stays this side of civility! Even when she went off on Lu last season, it's brought on by relentlessly biting her tongue when dealing with the pretention of the Countless! It finally exploded, but it was still factual without making up stuff! Ramona had a bug up her arse which is more related to jealousy! What Ramona did was inexcusable; wasted or not! Alcohol just makes you spill "your" truth! I would never forgive it; call me "small!" I just don't give people chance after chance to hurt me! Ramona thinks a simple "drunken" apology should have been enough for Bethenny to "get over it!" Fat chance!

[film noire]

1 hour ago, Avon.Blakes7 said:

I'm not that faithful a watcher, but my guess would be "no!" Bethenny's one of the worst, but she stays this side of civility! Even when she went off on Lu last season, it's brought on by relentlessly biting her tongue when dealing with the pretention of the Countless! !

I did not find Bethenny's slut-shaming civil (one of the lowest points of the show for me). I doubt Frankel would go after anybody's kid, but Ramona had such an itch in her, it felt like payback. so I wondered if I'd missed something.

[diadochokinesis]

4 hours ago, film noire said:

I did not find Bethenny's slut-shaming civil (one of the lowest points of the show for me). I doubt Frankel would go after anybody's kid, but Ramona had such an itch in her, it felt like payback. so I wondered if I'd missed something.

From what I've heard, Ramona doesn't like that Bethenny was getting certain privileges (higher pay, etc). She felt like she should get it as the OG of NY. So, she was gunning for her from the very beginning because of that. 

[WireWrap]

2 hours ago, diadochokinesis said:

From what I've heard, Ramona doesn't like that Bethenny was getting certain privileges (higher pay, etc). She felt like she should get it as the OG of NY. So, she was gunning for her from the very beginning because of that. 

I don't think it was the pay difference, it was that Bethenny shut her out of her life this past summer (before filming began this season). Rumor has it that Bethenny learned that Ramona was the initial TG and that she failed to warn Bethenny about it, Bethenny was furious and shut Ramona out but didn't tell her why. Ramona felt used and then discarded by Bethenny, so she lashed out like the idiot she is. 

[BckpckFullaNinjas]

11 hours ago, breezy424 said:

...Let's discuss because we have three days until the next episode.  :)  I think just about everything else has gone over with a fine tooth comb.

You know I'm just having fun....

Yep! That's the whole point!!

And when it stops being fun...

Edited July 3, 2017 by BckpckFullaNinjas

[zoeysmom]

2 hours ago, WireWrap said:

I don't think it was the pay difference, it was that Bethenny shut her out of her life this past summer (before filming began this season). Rumor has it that Bethenny learned that Ramona was the initial TG and that she failed to warn Bethenny about it, Bethenny was furious and shut Ramona out but didn't tell her why. Ramona felt used and then discarded by Bethenny, so she lashed out like the idiot she is. 

You know what kills me-is after Bethenny went after Luann with a vengeance in the Berkshires about Skinnygirl, and her brand, blah, blah, and Dorinda not inviting Sonja largely due to her not wanting a Sonja/Bethenny war over Tipsy Girl, Ramona and Dorinda sat there while Luann took the brunt of defending Sonja, knowing full well they had had conversations with Peter about Tipsy Girl.  Luann was at least supportive-the other two knew and truly threw Sonja under the bus.  (I really don't care about either product or their successes.)

The other thing that bugs me and it is in this week's clips-Dorinda goes on and on about Sonja bringing up ancient history (well in the case of Tipsy Girl history that is 18 months old) but Dorinda goes nuts on Luann when she mentions she is married and doesn't want to talk about who she was dating or "fucking" 18 months ago.  Funny how the past is always used when one wants to skirt around an issue. 

Dorinda, to me, is the one who is starting to reveal she is not that great a friend this year.  Dorinda seems to be all about Dorinda and showing off.

[BBHN]

Doinda never said anything about who Tom was fucking "18 months ago", she just said  who Tom was fucking...which, this being Tom, probably wasn't anywhere near as ancient as 18 months ago. Hell he was making out with another woman at the time of the engagement...

I guess now that Dorinda has crossed Luann, she has a Bethenny sized target on her back.

[KungFuBunny]

22 hours ago, motorcitymom65 said:

I would be surprised to see Lu leave on her own. None of the other ho'wives have worked as hard to secure contracts as Lu has. But I suppose the argument could also be made that she is the one most willing to leave if she doesn't get what she wants. I don't think Tom is a pauper, but I also don't think he is loaded with financial resources (JMO). Lu has had a modicum of success with some of her branding (I think clothes), but nothing that has stuck to the point where I believe it is viable if she weren't on the show. She would not have the opportunity to record another song, or probably sell another garment were it not for the show. I don't think it has brought her huge success, but I think she has done a pretty good job of turning this show into a fairly short-term lucrative deal for her. But it is all tied up in this show.  It all goes away when the show goes away. My guess is if she wasn't on this show, we would see her trying to do something else, kind of like Brandi did. Maybe Marriage Bootcamp. 

Bravo will demote Luann to friend of so that the other wives can still talk about Tom shenanigans. Luann will take the demotion, because she needs to keep her “Countess” persona for her business ventures. Bravo will never say they are doing this to punish Luann, it is simply that they’re going in a different direction. Luann will take it and publicly say she wanted this because she is newly married and needs to travel with Tom.

The main reason Luann will be demoted is because of the numbers. It doesn’t matter how you look at it, Luann “failed” Being that this season had a lot to do with Luann her upcoming nuptials and Tom shenanigans, there should have been a surge in Luann’s popularity – she should have had a jump in her social media following and in the talk/chatter. She failed on Twitter and Instagram – she had a 2K jump in her following. Compare Luann’s numbers to Dorinda. After Dorinda’s first season, she had 17K followers on Twitter and about 10K on Instagram. This is Dorinda’s 3rd or 4th season and she now has 121K on Twitter and 317K on Instagram. Dorinda has surpassed Luann on Instagram, and Luann should have a ton more because of her wedding and the Tom scandal. Dorinda really has never been the focal point of the RHNY story arc, Luann has. You can even look at this forum. Every HW has their own thread. RHNY Season 9 started on April 5th. No one has posted on Luann’s thread since April 25th. There have been more conversations about Cookie’s demise and free balling Grandpa Hoppy, events which occurred years ago than Luann. That’s pathetic.  

In the current season, Luann is a HW so she is on salary. She may be required to show up for a scene but she doesn’t have to stay – she is being paid regardless. Next year if she is demoted, she will be scrambling to be in enough scenes to get as much money as possible.

[motorcitymom65]

1 hour ago, KungFuBunny said:

No one has posted on Luann’s thread since April 25th. There have been more conversations about Cookie’s demise and free balling Grandpa Hoppy, events which occurred years ago than Luann. That’s pathetic.  

We should just shut down this forum now and end with this, because no one is ever going to say anything this great again.

I mentioned this last season, because I found it fascinating. Folks kept going on last year (and this year) about how Lu is/was the only one with a storyline. She only had a storyline because the others made it one. The fact that she was engaged and getting married wasn't particularly interesting. The fact that the dude had gone out with two other HW's and cheated on her publicly was the story. She had nothing to do with it (well, except for probably picking a guy who had gone out with two other HW's to make it a thing). But it never made her interesting except as a way to make the others less likable to some. Folks didn't go over to her page over here and post stuff during a time when you would have thought they would be if they were really that interested in her.  Pretty much every single thing Beth says gets quoted on her page. Every single photo on Instagram or Twitter gets posted and analyzed. Lu posts tons of pics on social media. All kinds of things. Her fans aren't interested enough to post it, and the ones who don't like her are not interested enough to snark about it. Most folks only care about her story in terms of the way the others react to it. Outside of that, it doesn't really seem much like people care. 

[zoeysmom]

1 hour ago, BBHN said:

Doinda never said anything about who Tom was fucking "18 months ago", she just said  who Tom was fucking...which, this being Tom, probably wasn't anywhere near as ancient as 18 months ago. Hell he was making out with another woman at the time of the engagement...

I guess now that Dorinda has crossed Luann, she has a Bethenny sized target on her back.

Dorinda was bringing up the talking about bringing  past when she mentioned who Tom Luann were fucking.  It would have been in the same time frame as the infamous Tipsy Girl past.  So basically Dorinda is a hypocrite.  Is it the past because it happened way back in mid December of 2015, as opposed to February of 2016?  It is either the past or it isn't.  Sonja living in the past in December of 2015 references is not different than Dorinda using February 2016 references other than she is in a bad light in 2015 and she is not involved in 2016. 

Luann asks her to apologize and drunk Dorinda goes off into an insane rant about Luann not being able to talk about being married.  Because Dorinda doesn't want to hear it. 

If you are talking about me having a target on Dorinda's back-obviously I believe her behavior worth discussing.  As to Luann I did post a photo from the wrap party and she is kissing Dorinda.  I don't believe Luann cares.  I just am starting to hear the Jaws theme when Dorinda enters a conversation.  I get she is outspoken but she is also a drunk and two faced.  Doesn't mean I don't find her entertaining.

[BBHN]

Tipsy Girl happened long before Tom was caught kissing another woman (and doing God knows what else).

Plus Sonja was bringing up a specific event to stir shit up between Dorinda and Bethenny. Dorinda wasn't bringing up anything specific, she was just pointing out how tired she was hearing about how perfect Tom and Luann's "story" was, once sentence is a long rant. Tom and Luann's past wasn't even the focus of the rant, as we can see in this video.

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As to Luann I did post a photo from the wrap party and she is kissing Dorinda.  I don't believe Luann cares.

Luann probably does care, to an extent, hence her side of the exchange in the video.

[zoeysmom]

13 minutes ago, BBHN said:

Tipsy Girl happened long before Tom was caught kissing another woman (and doing God knows what else).

Plus Sonja was bringing up a specific event to stir shit up between Dorinda and Bethenny. Dorinda wasn't bringing up anything specific, she was just pointing out how tired she was hearing about how perfect Tom and Luann's "story" was, once sentence is a long rant. Tom and Luann's past wasn't even the focus of the rant, as we can see in this video.

 

Luann probably does care, to an extent, hence her side of the exchange in the video.

Tom and Luann didn't happen until late November of 2015.  Tipsy Girl also happened in November of 2015.  The Regency incident happened in early February of 2016. We are down to talking about days and hours defining "the past" instead of significant periods of time.  The reality is it all happened last season. M y comment regarding Luann is she seems to have gone over it a month later.  Maybe she should stay forever mad just to be relevant.

Last year Carole and Bethenny claimed Dorinda Meddler got away with murder at the Reunion.  I am just keeping their observation relevant-she does get away with a lot of pot stirring  and although entertaining- not a great friend.

[BBHN]

I guess then Tom and Luann must have kept of fucking other people long after February 2016.

Dorinda seems to be a good friend to me.

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I mentioned this last season, because I found it fascinating. Folks kept going on last year (and this year) about how Lu is/was the only one with a storyline. She only had a storyline because the others made it one. The fact that she was engaged and getting married wasn't particularly interesting. The fact that the dude had gone out with two other HW's and cheated on her publicly was the story. She had nothing to do with it (well, except for probably picking a guy who had gone out with two other HW's to make it a thing). But it never made her interesting except as a way to make the others less likable to some. Folks didn't go over to her page over here and post stuff during a time when you would have thought they would be if they were really that interested in her.  Pretty much every single thing Beth says gets quoted on her page. Every single photo on Instagram or Twitter gets posted and analyzed. Lu posts tons of pics on social media. All kinds of things. Her fans aren't interested enough to post it, and the ones who don't like her are not interested enough to snark about it. Most folks only care about her story in terms of the way the others react to it. Outside of that, it doesn't really seem much like people care. 

If anything, Luann probably says a prayer to herself every night before she goes to bed that the other HWs keep bringing up Tom and his wandering dick ;)

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[zoeysmom]

53 minutes ago, motorcitymom65 said:

We should just shut down this forum now and end with this, because no one is ever going to say anything this great again.

I mentioned this last season, because I found it fascinating. Folks kept going on last year (and this year) about how Lu is/was the only one with a storyline. She only had a storyline because the others made it one. The fact that she was engaged and getting married wasn't particularly interesting. The fact that the dude had gone out with two other HW's and cheated on her publicly was the story. She had nothing to do with it (well, except for probably picking a guy who had gone out with two other HW's to make it a thing). But it never made her interesting except as a way to make the others less likable to some. Folks didn't go over to her page over here and post stuff during a time when you would have thought they would be if they were really that interested in her.  Pretty much every single thing Beth says gets quoted on her page. Every single photo on Instagram or Twitter gets posted and analyzed. Lu posts tons of pics on social media. All kinds of things. Her fans aren't interested enough to post it, and the ones who don't like her are not interested enough to snark about it. Most folks only care about her story in terms of the way the others react to it. Outside of that, it doesn't really seem much like people care. 

If you are comparing pages-go over to RHOBH-Yolanda, Kim and Brandi have far more pages than Kyle, LVP or Lisa Rinna.  It doesn't mean they are less interesting or don't have interested fans it just means there is a lot going on in some of the others' lives that is not necessarily being shown on the show.  Yolanda wasn't even on the show this year and racked up at least 20 pages.  So having a disease, a court case can rack up far more pages than a wedding.  So let's agree to keep this forum open.  ;-D

[motorcitymom65]

8 minutes ago, zoeysmom said:

Tom and Luann didn't happen until late November of 2015.  Tipsy Girl also happened in November of 2015.  The Regency incident happened in early February of 2016. We are down to talking about days and hours defining "the past" instead of significant periods of time.  The reality is it all happened last season. M y comment regarding Luann is she seems to have gone over it a month later.  Maybe she should stay forever mad just to be relevant.

Last year Carole and Bethenny claimed Dorinda Meddler got away with murder at the Reunion.  I am just keeping their observation relevant-she does get away with a lot of pot stirring  and although entertaining- not a great friend.

I think TG happened long before that. The email that we saw from Ramona was from last November, and she had apparently been working on it for a while. But to the point above, Sonja brought up the TG stuff in a random way to start shit. Completely different.

Dorinda isn't different now than she was before.  I am not going to say she is a bad friend, because I don't think she is. I actually think she would do anything for a friend. She is the kind of person that many say they want to see more of. She just tells it like it is, regardless of whether or not she is your friend. If she thinks that something stinks, she says it stinks. She did it to Heather - who was her friend - her first season. She has said she loves Ramona, but she is not going to let things go and not tell Ramona what she thinks because they are friends. She is telling Lu what she thinks, which is pretty consistent with how she has always behaved. And from the reaction of many of the others, they seem to think that Dorinda is on to something. 

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[BBHN]

It isn't an issue of how many pages. It's how often they frequent and comment on those pages. Yolanda is the only former HW that seems to get people commenting, but the other current BH HWs were still getting people to visit their pages.

Luann? Not so much traffic.

[zoeysmom]

2 minutes ago, motorcitymom65 said:

I think TG happened long before that. The email that we saw from Ramona was from last November, and she had apparently been working on it for a while. But to the point above, Sonja brought up the TG stuff in a random way to start shit. Completely different.

Dorinda isn't different now than she was before.  I am not going to say she is a bad friend, because I don't think she is. I actually think she would do anything for a friend. She is the kind of person that many say they want to see more of. She just tells it like it is, regardless of whether or not she is your friend. If she thinks that something stinks, she says it stinks. She did it to Heather - who was her friend - her first season. She has said she loves Ramona, but she is not going to let things go and not tell Ramona what she thinks because they are friends. She is telling Lu what she thinks, which is pretty consistent with how she has always behaved. And from the reaction of many of the others, they seem to think that Dorinda is on to something. 

We disagree I see a huge blow hard in Dorinda from giving interviews to saying she doesn't want John on the show because it takes the attention away from her, to pushing John out of publicity photos (at the Kilt thing), to then talking about hot sex with him,  Dorinda is about Dorinda.  There is no upside-except camera time in being friends with Ramona.  I don't care how long they have known each other.  Ramona is one giant abandoned and malignant heart. 

Dorinda is just this thick tongued slobbering drunk who uses whoever is convenient to garner screen time.  How fake to be friends with Ramona after the damage she did to her home and has not backed off it? Ramona should be done.  The thing with Dorinda, which any other RH would have been held accountable for -is she commits assault-okay it was her late husband's birthday.  She walks in on a conversation, totally misconstrues it  and sounds like a loon-it is her the birthday cake her mother made for her.  She gets called out for having knowledge of Tipsy Girl she starts in with the history stuff and makes a scene. Granted the scenes are far more interesting with her drunken rants.  My single biggest issue with Dorinda is she has to stop telling people what they can talk about.  I rarely find her talking about interesting things.  Dorinda has always gotten passes because she is an entertaining drunk. 

[WireWrap]

1 hour ago, motorcitymom65 said:

We should just shut down this forum now and end with this, because no one is ever going to say anything this great again.

I mentioned this last season, because I found it fascinating. Folks kept going on last year (and this year) about how Lu is/was the only one with a storyline. She only had a storyline because the others made it one. The fact that she was engaged and getting married wasn't particularly interesting. The fact that the dude had gone out with two other HW's and cheated on her publicly was the story. She had nothing to do with it (well, except for probably picking a guy who had gone out with two other HW's to make it a thing). But it never made her interesting except as a way to make the others less likable to some. Folks didn't go over to her page over here and post stuff during a time when you would have thought they would be if they were really that interested in her.  Pretty much every single thing Beth says gets quoted on her page. Every single photo on Instagram or Twitter gets posted and analyzed. Lu posts tons of pics on social media. All kinds of things. Her fans aren't interested enough to post it, and the ones who don't like her are not interested enough to snark about it. Most folks only care about her story in terms of the way the others react to it. Outside of that, it doesn't really seem much like people care. 

HWs behaving badly tend to get more posts than their victims. LOL

[motorcitymom65]

14 minutes ago, zoeysmom said:

We disagree I see a huge blow hard in Dorinda from giving interviews to saying she doesn't want John on the show because it takes the attention away from her, to pushing John out of publicity photos (at the Kilt thing), to then talking about hot sex with him,  Dorinda is about Dorinda.  There is no upside-except camera time in being friends with Ramona.  I don't care how long they have known each other.  Ramona is one giant abandoned and malignant heart. 

Dorinda is just this thick tongued slobbering drunk who uses whoever is convenient to garner screen time.  How fake to be friends with Ramona after the damage she did to her home and has not backed off it? Ramona should be done.  The thing with Dorinda, which any other RH would have been held accountable for -is she commits assault-okay it was her late husband's birthday.  She walks in on a conversation, totally misconstrues it  and sounds like a loon-it is her the birthday cake her mother made for her.  She gets called out for having knowledge of Tipsy Girl she starts in with the history stuff and makes a scene. Granted the scenes are far more interesting with her drunken rants.  My single biggest issue with Dorinda is she has to stop telling people what they can talk about.  I rarely find her talking about interesting things.  Dorinda has always gotten passes because she is an entertaining drunk. 

There are things that I love about Dorinda, and there are things that I don't like about Dorinda. Which is what I think makes her seem like a real person, because I don't have anyone in my entire life that doesn't have traits that I don't like, no matter how much I love the other stuff.  I think that she can be too judgmental at times. She can say nasty stuff when she has had too much to drink. Which is beyond entertaining to watch, but would be scary if you were the one being talked about. But this has always been the case with Dorinda. It's nothing new. The new thing will be if she throws her judgment at Lu. She was judmental about Heather, and lots of folks applauded her if they didn't like Heather. Defended Dorinda because she was talking about the insufferable Heather. She called Carole a mean girl (or something like that) last year and folks that didn't like Carole acted like she was the truth teller of all truth tellers. It's always the same old story, which is what makes the show and these forums so interesting. It all becomes about alliances in the end. A person can say exactly the same thing, but people sometimes react to what was said not because of the actual words, but because of the person they were talking about. 

[KungFuBunny]

1 hour ago, motorcitymom65 said:

We should just shut down this forum now and end with this, because no one is ever going to say anything this great again.

I mentioned this last season, because I found it fascinating. Folks kept going on last year (and this year) about how Lu is/was the only one with a storyline. She only had a storyline because the others made it one. The fact that she was engaged and getting married wasn't particularly interesting. The fact that the dude had gone out with two other HW's and cheated on her publicly was the story. She had nothing to do with it (well, except for probably picking a guy who had gone out with two other HW's to make it a thing). But it never made her interesting except as a way to make the others less likable to some. Folks didn't go over to her page over here and post stuff during a time when you would have thought they would be if they were really that interested in her.  Pretty much every single thing Beth says gets quoted on her page. Every single photo on Instagram or Twitter gets posted and analyzed. Lu posts tons of pics on social media. All kinds of things. Her fans aren't interested enough to post it, and the ones who don't like her are not interested enough to snark about it. Most folks only care about her story in terms of the way the others react to it. Outside of that, it doesn't really seem much like people care. 

Thank you

I’m sure Bravo has a research department that trolls all social media platforms. They don’t have to read posts. All they have to do is cut and paste posts into a file and run a software program looking for key words. On an episode thread, they can run the HW names, nicknames, to see how many times each is referenced. On an individual HW thread they can do a count by post date. If there is a surge on postings on a particular day, what happened i.e. new episode aired.

How sad is it that the Jules Wainstain thread had more recent action than Luann? On one hand you can say well Michael might be held in contempt of court, yeah but Luann got freaking married, Victoria got arrested and she is a current HW. Luann’s wedding aired June 5th. If there is a sudden surge now, the researchers will still see the cricket gap – April 25 to July 3rd .

You’re also right about Bethenny. She isn’t going anywhere. The RH franchise is the best fit for her in terms of product placement. The Shark Tank appearance and the Real Estate show – I don’t see how she could work in SKG stuff. It would be ludicrous for Fredrick and Bethenny go see a vacant apartment that somehow has SKG product lying around. Or that they stage a new place with SKG product. Bravo looks at those numbers too. Bethenny has 2 threads of her own. I was posting I forget where and had to scroll to the top to make sure I was on the correct HW thread because Bethenny was being talked about.

If one really wanted Bethenny off RH, the masses could just collectively go silent about her. That would get the attention of Bravo.

Are there 2 more episodes featuring Vermont? If the coming week is when Carole reads Jason got arrested, I can’t wait. Would love to further discuss Jason Douchebag on the episode thread

[KungFuBunny]

1 hour ago, motorcitymom65 said:

I think TG happened long before that. The email that we saw from Ramona was from last November, and she had apparently been working on it for a while. But to the point above, Sonja brought up the TG stuff in a random way to start shit. Completely different.

Dorinda isn't different now than she was before.  I am not going to say she is a bad friend, because I don't think she is. I actually think she would do anything for a friend. She is the kind of person that many say they want to see more of. She just tells it like it is, regardless of whether or not she is your friend. If she thinks that something stinks, she says it stinks. She did it to Heather - who was her friend - her first season. She has said she loves Ramona, but she is not going to let things go and not tell Ramona what she thinks because they are friends. She is telling Lu what she thinks, which is pretty consistent with how she has always behaved. And from the reaction of many of the others, they seem to think that Dorinda is on to something. 

I still am one who doesn't think that was real. I do believe Peter approached Ramona on various business ventures including TG before it was "named". Ramona is a narcissist, she already had Ramona Singer Pinot Grigio out in the market. If she were going to do another liquor i.e. prosecco it would be called Ramona Singer Prosecco. Ramona has representation to protect her "persona" and they read any contracts before she signs. Once Ramona saw Peter wiggling back and forth, I think she figured he is a scammer. Ramona did tell Bethenny about Sonya and TG. There is no way in hell, that if the alleged email is real and Bethenny found out about it, that she did NOT rip Ramona a new one on the show or in the press by now.

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She walks in on a conversation, totally misconstrues it  and sounds like a loon-it is her the birthday cake her mother made for her. 

Nothing was misconstrued, Luann and Ramona were being straight up bitches.

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The new thing will be if she throws her judgment at Lu. She was judmental about Heather, and lots of folks applauded her if they didn't like Heather. Defended Dorinda because she was talking about the insufferable Heather. She called Carole a mean girl (or something like that) last year and folks that didn't like Carole acted like she was the truth teller of all truth tellers.

Ding ding ding! We have a winner!

[KungFuBunny]

1 hour ago, BBHN said:

It isn't an issue of how many pages. It's how often they frequent and comment on those pages. Yolanda is the only former HW that seems to get people commenting, but the other current BH HWs were still getting people to visit their pages.

Luann? Not so much traffic.

Exactly!

OMG even the Yolanda Foster Hadid thread has more traffic

Luann is a current HW and not only is she a current HW, her franchise's city new episodes are being aired.

Lost At Sea has been discussed recently and that's from BEA Hah!

Maybe she can put a picture on her Instagram of The Count/Tom/Luann/Jacques - Bosom Buddy quartet - I'll post that over on Luann's thread

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I'll post that over on Luann's thread

Finally! Someone posting something in her thread! lol

[KungFuBunny]

Just now, BBHN said:

Finally! Someone posting something in her thread! lol

Hey, I'm doing my job!

I like Luann, I follow her on Instagram and still search for pictures of The Count/Tom/Jacques - together not photoshopped

If I find a photo I will post it

I'm like a regular Field Of Memes....you upload it and I will post it

[motorcitymom65]

34 minutes ago, KungFuBunny said:

I still am one who doesn't think that was real. I do believe Peter approached Ramona on various business ventures including TG before it was "named". Ramona is a narcissist, she already had Ramona Singer Pinot Grigio out in the market. If she were going to do another liquor i.e. prosecco it would be called Ramona Singer Prosecco. Ramona has representation to protect her "persona" and they read any contracts before she signs. Once Ramona saw Peter wiggling back and forth, I think she figured he is a scammer. Ramona did tell Bethenny about Sonya and TG. There is no way in hell, that if the alleged email is real and Bethenny found out about it, that she did NOT rip Ramona a new one on the show or in the press by now.

You could be right, but I don't think Beth likes talking about any of it. Even when it happened, she discussed it with Sonja, and she didn't really bring it up much again. She was still mad at Sonja and we knew why, but she didn't spend a lot of time talking about the "thing" that made her mad. I don't think that Beth wants to give it any air. I believe she thinks it was all done for a storyline, and she wasn't going to give in to any of it. I think this whole deal is a huge part in why she is so mad at Ramona. There is they thing with Brynn of course, but there is more hostility there. I just don't think she wants to allow her business venture and the fact that they were trying to capitalize on it for dramatic purposes be a ploy that works. If she makes a thing of it, then they can respond not only to her on the show, but say all kinds of things in their TH interviews and keep it going. She has lost control at that point. I just think she is shutting that shit down. 

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[film noire]

2 hours ago, WireWrap said:

HWs behaving badly tend to get more posts than their victims. LOL

True!

Also, there was no need to visit Luann's thread, because she was on topic -- or THE topic  -- in almost every episode. 

[motorcitymom65]

25 minutes ago, film noire said:

True!

Also, there was no need to visit Luann's thread, because she was on topic -- or THE topic  -- in almost every episode. 

But what about her off the show stuff? Crickets over there. I don't follow her, but I took a glimpse at her Twitter account. Let's say I did it for science or reseach or something so I don't feel shame.  She has so much stuff over on social media. Girl had a big party to introduce the new Countess Collection last week and no one around here said "boo" about it. Beth took a picture of herself sitting on a park bench and 5 minutes later folks had something to say. Sure, it was all snarky, but Beth doesn't care if it is snarky. The click counts the same either way. Poor Lu cannot get a click. Not from people who like her or people who don't.  Two weeks ago Lu launched her new mugs, shirts, and shit with some of her HW phrases on them. Much like Dorinda did. Folks were on Dorinda's thread posting the available stuff and talking about it. Poor Lu cannot even get anyone to do the same for her. I had no idea she was even selling this stuff.  All kinds of cute stuff on Twitter of her and her hubby, BBQ mistakes, etc. and no one bothers to post any of it. Beth takes a picture of herself in a hotel room and folks are interested. What was happening with Lu was central to the show last season, and then it concluded with her marriage. But no one cares enough about it to keep the world informed. Because it is not one little bit interesting. 

[zoeysmom]

1 hour ago, motorcitymom65 said:

But what about her off the show stuff? Crickets over there. I don't follow her, but I took a glimpse at her Twitter account. Let's say I did it for science or reseach or something so I don't feel shame.  She has so much stuff over on social media. Girl had a big party to introduce the new Countess Collection last week and no one around here said "boo" about it. Beth took a picture of herself sitting on a park bench and 5 minutes later folks had something to say. Sure, it was all snarky, but Beth doesn't care if it is snarky. The click counts the same either way. Poor Lu cannot get a click. Not from people who like her or people who don't.  Two weeks ago Lu launched her new mugs, shirts, and shit with some of her HW phrases on them. Much like Dorinda did. Folks were on Dorinda's thread posting the available stuff and talking about it. Poor Lu cannot even get anyone to do the same for her. I had no idea she was even selling this stuff.  All kinds of cute stuff on Twitter of her and her hubby, BBQ mistakes, etc. and no one bothers to post any of it. Beth takes a picture of herself in a hotel room and folks are interested. What was happening with Lu was central to the show last season, and then it concluded with her marriage. But no one cares enough about it to keep the world informed. Because it is not one little bit interesting. 

On a good day show night there has been maybe two episodes that get color blocked for 25 or more people liking a comment on this site.  This site  really doesn't factor in much in the world of RH.  Bravo likes their own social media. 

I mentioned Luann had a launch-not on her page.  I mentioned she did not tweet show night because she was launching her collection. 

Bethenny has three people working full time on her social media.  Who cares?   Her full time job is promoting Bethenny/SKinnygirl and she is certainly welcome to do so.  Across all of the franchises there a are very few (Kandi Burruss) (LVP and a lot of that is for charity) that promote  year round. 

There is a cycle of when they promote on the show and when they slow.  Coming soon during the slow news cycle moments Luann will start being interviewed for the Reunion.  It happens every year.  Of course Bethenny will and I am not sure if Ramona will just because she is a bad interview.  Luann had unprecedented for her coverage last year. 

If you feel so for Luann perhaps you should send her a tweet explaining all her marketing faulings. 
 

[SCS]

58 minutes ago, zoeysmom said:

 

 

If you feel so for Luann perhaps you should send her a tweet explaining all her marketing faulings. 
 

 

Nahhh, MCM should continue to post her opinions vis-à-vis Lu here where quite a few of us like and endorse her comments.