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And they dare to talk about the possibility to have another child beyond all of these they already have with this kind of financial problem going on?  She is so out of touch with reality, it isn't funny.

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I wonder if there are nannies? If so, I feel for them raising the kids in that toxic home. Candy would have to be the one paying for the nannies, so I wonder if she'd be the one choosing them. If she could choose a bunch of psych majors, maybe with MBAs, to try and raise the kids the opposite of how she raised Tori maybe some of them would have a chance at normalcy and happiness.

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If Tori had been the sole heir of her father's fortune, she most likely would have spent every dime of it by now.  I genuinely don't understand how she can be so heavily and publicly in debt and yet preen for the cameras, take expensive trips, and have more children as if she doesn't have a care in the world.  If she's counting on her mother dying and leaving her a fortune, she might be in for a nasty surprise.  I can see Candy leaving trust funds for the grandchildren and nothing for her daughter.  

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On 4/15/2017 at 3:54 PM, GaT said:

Are they just counting on Candy to pay for everything? They're in massive debt already, now they have a new baby & are thinking about a 6th? Do they think they'll just get a free pass on the money?

Yes, they are counting on Candy paying for everything, as she has done for years. She also creates a trust fund for each kid (I believe that Liam and Stella's were reported to be $10M each), so each additional McDermott kid means another $10M for the McDermott family fortune whether Candy leaves anything to Tori or not. I believe that that is a big part of their deciding to have so many kids.

2 hours ago, ChristmasJones said:

Do we know if she have any sources of income ? Any new shows starting up? What about Dean?

They are using the new baby as the premise for the next reality show. Maybe this time Tori will finally succeed in coming off as a "Martha Stewart for mommies" rather than a "spoiled, self-involved headcase," but I doubt it. Dean will try to use the show to build his image as the "Gourmet Dad," but will most likely end up playing the role of "Tori's whipping boy" again instead.

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2 minutes ago, TheRealT said:

Maybe this time Tori will finally succeed in coming off as a "Martha Stewart for mommies" rather than a "spoiled, self-involved headcase," but I doubt it. Dean will try to use the show to build his image as the "Gourmet Dad," but will most likely end up playing the role of "Tori's whipping boy" again instead.

True... so sadly true.

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I wonder if anybody would watch a new reality show?  I actually bailed on this one fairly early and just kept up with the recaps here.  I actually think Tori has talent (I know--I'm in the minority) and I wish her Mystery Girls show hadn't been such a disaster.  I thought the premise was good but the execution was...not.   If she got the right project, one with some strong writers I think she could carry a sitcom.  But its probably too late for that now.

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Tori Spelling and Dean McDermott’s bank accounts drained by IRS

Tori Spelling: ‘I have a house fetish, we’re on the hunt for a big home’

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I have a bit of a house fetish – I love the whole experience of finding the perfect place. We’re a big family and we’re on the hunt for a big “forever” family home. 

How many times has she talked about buying a "forever" home? Instead, she just keeps moving & renting new houses & keeps talking about a "forever" home.

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On April 18, 2017 at 7:44 AM, Cosmic Muffin said:

I wonder if there are nannies? If so, I feel for them raising the kids in that toxic home. Candy would have to be the one paying for the nannies, so I wonder if she'd be the one choosing them. If she could choose a bunch of psych majors, maybe with MBAs, to try and raise the kids the opposite of how she raised Tori maybe some of them would have a chance at normalcy and happiness.

OF COURSE there are nannies. OF COURSE. I kind of think that Tori might keep having kids so she can keep getting their baby nurse to come live with them again and again. Tori was extremely close with her Nanny growing up and I suspect the nannies & baby nurses in the McDermont House also end up nanny-ing/babying Tori as well. 

On April 18, 2017 at 3:30 PM, MonicaM said:

If Tori had been the sole heir of her father's fortune, she most likely would have spent every dime of it by now.  I genuinely don't understand how she can be so heavily and publicly in debt and yet preen for the cameras, take expensive trips, and have more children as if she doesn't have a care in the world.  If she's counting on her mother dying and leaving her a fortune, she might be in for a nasty surprise.  I can see Candy leaving trust funds for the grandchildren and nothing for her daughter.  

They seriously have no shame, Whenever I've had financial difficulties I tried so hard to keep them private and make sure not to buy stuff I really didn't need. 

12 hours ago, henrysmom said:

I wonder if anybody would watch a new reality show?  I actually bailed on this one fairly early and just kept up with the recaps here.  I actually think Tori has talent (I know--I'm in the minority) and I wish her Mystery Girls show hadn't been such a disaster.  I thought the premise was good but the execution was...not.   If she got the right project, one with some strong writers I think she could carry a sitcom.  But its probably too late for that now.

I think Tori is actually a talented comedienne. I love her "So NoTORIous" show on VH1 years and years ago, where she made fun of herself. Unfortunately, I think the ship has sailed for her to be anything other than what her image is: a crazy, crybaby, breeding obsessed, entitled, needy, anorexic/pill head who can't live modestly. 

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On ‎4‎/‎18‎/‎2017 at 5:53 PM, TheRealT said:

Yes, they are counting on Candy paying for everything, as she has done for years. She also creates a trust fund for each kid (I believe that Liam and Stella's were reported to be $10M each), so each additional McDermott kid means another $10M for the McDermott family fortune whether Candy leaves anything to Tori or not. I believe that that is a big part of their deciding to have so many kids.

I would love to know the terms of the trusts. It would be a kick in the pants if the beneficiaries don't have access to their funds until the age of (let's say) 21 or 25 or even 30, and (be still, my heart) if Ma and Pa are stringently excluded from benefitting from the trusts in any way during their own lifetimes. I can dream, right?

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10 hours ago, MyPeopleAreNordic said:

 (Snip) I think Tori is actually a talented comedienne. I love her "So NoTORIous" show on VH1 years and years ago, where she made fun of herself. Unfortunately, I think the ship has sailed for her to be anything other than what her image is: a crazy, crybaby, breeding obsessed, entitled, needy, anorexic/pill head who can't live modestly. 

I agree, but you forgot "hoarder" and "narcissist".

Have her 18 storage bins that she pays $200 a month each been seized, sold in the estate sales or lost due to her not paying for them?

That was my main takeaway from the last show; if she'd get the right therapy she could save $4000 a month in storage bin fees. Or, if she's lost the bins, they aren't paying nearly $50,000 a year just to keep her crap that she can't deal with but also can't let go of.

Yes, I ended a sentence with a preposition, but I pay my bills and have a little savings, so I feel ok about that.

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I think Tori is actually a talented comedienne. I love her "So NoTORIous" show on VH1 years and years ago, where she made fun of herself. 

That is where I actually first saw her.  I loved that show, still have the DVD.  I was too old for 90210 when it was on, so I only knew her as a vague entity who popped up in gossip sheets every once in awhile.  

Unfortunately I think you are right and the ship has sailed on her future as an actual performer instead of a reality show sideshow.  And it is a shame really as I think she had real talent.  

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On 4/14/2017 at 6:20 AM, ghoulina said:

Haha, that baby's face is everything! He ain't got time for her shit. 

I love this!  It made me snort and laugh . . . then I went to look at the pic and damn.  The caption is right on. 

On 4/14/2017 at 11:33 AM, henrysmom said:

I have to say that Tori looks lovely in that picture.  Toning down the makeup, especially that bright red lipstick that doesn't do anything for her, makes her much more attractive.

I thought the same thing.  Her features look softer with her face being fuller.  Note to Tori:  please continue to eat.  You look far better with your weight in the 3 digits.

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Frankly, the first sentence pisses me off with its "Tori and Dean can't catch a break" nonsense.  They should be ashamed of themselves for the way they have treated Jack, but unfortunately shame never enters into their consciousness.  I hope both get tossed into jail; that could be the biggest blessing for all their children.

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Depends on how long he's been working and how much he spends.  Our neighbor's boy has been working since age 11.  He has a nice little mowing/weeding business going in the subdivision.  Being raised by a single mom in a volatile industry with a deadbeat dad, he might have been saving for awhile.  And the dollar amount is less important than the continued betrayal by his father.

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He might have had graduation gift money, if he's in school his mom might have put in funds for tuition, we don't know, but Jack thought he had funds in his account and I don't think he owes huge amounts of back taxes in the U.S. or other financial responsibilities of his own that he neglected. I wonder if he was notified or just tried to use his ATM card somewhere only to have it declined.  I have to think even the IRS thinks that Candy will pony up the money Tori and Dean owe at some point if they're going after Jack's money. If Dean's ex managed to get the $100,000 Dean owes her in child support I wonder if the IRS would seize it? Maybe not if it's in a Canadian account.

This really sucks for Jack, and I think Candy should fix this part of their mess.

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4 hours ago, Cosmic Muffin said:

This really sucks for Jack, and I think Candy should fix this part of their mess.

It would be nice of her, but Jack isn't Candy's grandson, she has no reason to take care of him.

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Can you imagine Tori's reaction if Mary Jo were to come out and say that Candy reached out to her and offered to pay Jack's tuition? And MJ could still put Dean in jail for nonpayment of child support?  If I were Candy, I would so do it.

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Yeah, it's one thing that Dean didn't pay child support, but for their antics to actually take money away from his kid., via the IRS. Not a great look for the IRS either. I would believe that Dean and/or Tori might actually end up in jail for the non payment of taxes. They aren't just not pulling in income like they used to, they're publicly taking trips abroad with their large family, having $40,000 baby showers, etc.

None of this is Candy's responsibility, but she has the funds to make all these problems go away without feeling it. She's paid off credit card debt, I think she should pay the taxes and child support owed to Jack's mom. She raised Tori to be the mess she is, and then set the precedent of throwing money at her problems. Clean this up, it's pulling in Jack who already suffers from having Dean as a dad.

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I suspect Tori could have the "good life" back in a heartbeat if she does one thing for Candy....Divorce Dean.  She could pay him off and establish iron clad rules on the children's trust funds that not one red cent goes to their father or they forfeit everything.

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Oh, I have no interest in Candy bailing out Tori and Dean, just in deciding to help Jack with college because it is the generous thing to do (and in no way absolves Dean of his child support requirements).

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I feel like Candy is in a no-win situation here.

Definitely.  Any money she gives them directly will just be wasted.  I saw a story not too long ago about Dean's brand new motorcycle, that cost something like $15K.  The story also mentioned his support case for Jack.  If Candy gave these two money, they'd just waste it so she'd have to give them more, and they would waste it, so she'd have to give them more...it would never end.

And honestly, nobody should have to support their adult child unless that child is disabled in some way. And they sure shouldn't have to support their adult child's spouse.

 

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Had Tori inherited a third of her father's fortune instead of $800 grand she still would have pissed thru it by now!  Tori was never taught restraint and she obviously never paid attention while being educated at the best prep schools in LA!  Did she even graduate?

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21 hours ago, MyPeopleAreNordic said:

I feel like Candy is in a no-win situation here.

Agree. No matter how much money Candy would give Tori, Tori would blow through it in no time. Tori made the assumption that her fathers' money would be her money. I find it hard to believe that Tori hadn't been told that she wasn't receiving a large inheritance from her father; I think she was just in denial.

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If Candy took it upon herself to pay all of Tori and Dean's debts, she'd be in a never-ending cycle of doing so. There are very good reasons that she has set the limits of only paying for certain bills that she deems necessities and paying directly to the creditors. Even with those restrictions, she has given Tori and Dean millions of dollars. Dean could have kept every penny he earned to pay for his child support, motorcycles, and whatever other frivolous things he wanted since all expenses for his (lavish by ordinary standards) lifestyle for him, Tori, and their kids have been covered by Candy for years. Instead, he chose not to pay child support and not to pay the credit card bills for whatever bullshit they bought while he continued to buy expensive toys and do whatever else he wanted. It's bad enough that Candy is stuck paying Tori's bills, why the hell should she take on Dean's as well (beyond what she's already paying for him by supporting his family)? The fact is, Tori and Dean are grifters. If Candy were moved by stories of them owing money to Jack, or Dean's cousin Rhonda with the disabled twins,  or a little old lady in El Segundo, they would arrange to have those people coming to her for every penny they could wring out of her. No matter how much money she has, she deserves some peace of mind and I don't blame her one bit for setting limits for her addict/grifter daughter and son-in-law.

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I wonder what decisions Tori and Dean would be making if Candy cut them off now.  She could say that when children are older, they will get money, but not when they are young and dependent on Tori and Dean.

It would be rough, but it might be the wake-up call they need.

Why would they change any of these habits when Candy is constantly bailing them out?

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I agree that Candy does need to set limits.  It is clear that there is something very wrong with Tori that she chooses to keep having children and live in expensive houses with pools, etc, while having no money.  Most people struggle with having a 2nd or 3rd child because they have to decide whether they can afford it, and these are people that are practical with their money and could probably make it work on much less $ than Tori.  So it is pretty sad that Tori still has learned nothing and lives in complete debt but talks about having yet another child (possibly).

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I find it hard to believe that Tori hadn't been told that she wasn't receiving a large inheritance from her father; I think she was just in denial.

IIRC from her first book, Tori said that she brought it up with her dad.  I'm not quite sure how she explained her motivation, but she said she wanted to know so she asked Aaron what she was getting in the will.  Aaron said she'd be taken care of.  I'm assuming Tori interpreted that as meaning she'd get millions.  Instead she got that measly $800K (yes, that's sarcasm).  

From what I've seen online that is the same amount Randy got, so when Tori says she was cut off because of Candy's maneuverings or whatever, I'd say it is doubtful.  I honestly think Aaron just had enough of his spoiled kids and decided to see if they could stand on their own.  It worked fine with Randy.  Tori, not so much.

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9 hours ago, ChristmasJones said:

I wonder what decisions Tori and Dean would be making if Candy cut them off now.  She could say that when children are older, they will get money, but not when they are young and dependent on Tori and Dean.

It would be rough, but it might be the wake-up call they need.

Why would they change any of these habits when Candy is constantly bailing them out?

Tori and Dean use Candy's concern for Tori and the kids to get money out of her. Candy pays for their housing, the kids' schooling, and other necessities like (I assume) food, medical care, nannies, clothes, etc. Candy knows that Tori is crazy and I think she's genuinely worried about what would happen to Tori and/or the kids if she cut them off. Look how melodramatic and manic Tori is over how hard and unfair everything is while she's sitting in a multi-million dollar house (paid for by Candy) with servants (paid for by Candy) to deal with everything. Imagine if she were in a 2-bedroom apartment with no one but Dean to support her (if he didn't take off the minute the money was gone). I could see how Candy would be worried that Tori would kill herself (intentionally or accidentally), abuse/neglect the kids (even more), or end up doing something desperate like making a porno movie.

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23 hours ago, Caracoa1 said:

Had Tori inherited a third of her father's fortune instead of $800 grand she still would have pissed thru it by now!  Tori was never taught restraint and she obviously never paid attention while being educated at the best prep schools in LA!  Did she even graduate?

She did graduate- on time and with her class - at what was then the Westlake School for Girls. She was accepted into USC but didn't go...instead she kept working on 90210. I'm pretty certain Aaron would have paid 100% of her tuition while she was in college.  Heck, he may have even made 90210 shoot around her class schedule if she'd chosen to attend USC. 

6 hours ago, henrysmom said:

IIRC from her first book, Tori said that she brought it up with her dad.  I'm not quite sure how she explained her motivation, but she said she wanted to know so she asked Aaron what she was getting in the will.  Aaron said she'd be taken care of.  I'm assuming Tori interpreted that as meaning she'd get millions.  Instead she got that measly $800K (yes, that's sarcasm).  

From what I've seen online that is the same amount Randy got, so when Tori says she was cut off because of Candy's maneuverings or whatever, I'd say it is doubtful.  I honestly think Aaron just had enough of his spoiled kids and decided to see if they could stand on their own.  It worked fine with Randy.  Tori, not so much.

She did bring it up and ask him. He did say she had nothing to worry about and would be taken care of. IIRC, she asked for specifics and he said he'd have to check. He called her back later (after he had spoken to his lawyer/accountant/etc) and reiterated that she had nothing to worry about and would be fine because she would be getting $800k....so he apparently thought (like everything else) that should be more than enough for an already-working actress (or anyone). Tori hints that her dad stayed out of how Candy spent money and what everything cost to maintain the family lifestyle, so he didn't know that was far less than what she'd expect she'd "need." Tori didn't say anything to her dad, but when he revealed what she'd inherit, she was like "Oh crap. That was not what I was expecting" in her head.

I think Aaron 1) knew she'd blow through the money; 2) knew she'd had incredible opportunities given to her by him already in the form of an acting career; 3) grew up relatively poor in Texas and thought (like most people) that $800k should have been more than enough for anyone to be grateful to inherit. 

Honestly, I think Tori should be glad he left her anything. Most people I know whose parents were married and one of them died, the deceased parent left everything to their spouse. The kids didn't get anything until the other parent passed away as well. 

As for the Spelling kids not understanding the value of money or having a work ethic because of how they were raised.....I'm not sure we can lay that at Aaron & Candy's doorstep. The main argument to this would be that Randy seems to be fine and living a normal, self-supporting life and working a normal job. Randy & Tori certainly saw her father work hard and that he was nearly always working. Candy often read scripts and gave feedback. They both helped her memorize her lines when she had small roles in his shows as a child (ie: they showed her acting was a job and required work/prep like any other job). Candy may not have been a hands-on mom, but she oversaw a large staff at the mansion and basically did everything as far as coordinating the Spellings' social life- which was a job in itself and no doubt helped Aaron's business ventures and helped him gain and maintain a place in the upper echelons of the entertainment business. Candy also oversaw the family's philanthropic contributions, which were/are many.  You can check out her philanthropic work here: http://candyspelling.com/causes/ Besides just donating money, she does seem to "work"/give a lot of her time to causes, for example, she's the Vice Chair of the American Humane Association’s Board of Directors.

I'm not a huge Candy fan, but I don't think it's entirely fair to point to how Tori was raised by her parents as an explanation for her financial problems now (I'm not saying any of us are saying they are the main cause). And yes, Candy helps pay the bills for kids and has trusts for them, but she obviously isn't writing a check for Tori's AmEx card bill that's in the thousands of dollars. I think if it wasn't for those kids, Tori (and Dean) wouldn't be getting any kind of help from her. 

Sorry this was so long. I apparently know far too much about these people since I read Candy's first book & a couple of Tori's.  Rant over.

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30 minutes ago, MyPeopleAreNordic said:

As for the Spelling kids not understanding the value of money or having a work ethic because of how they were raised.....I'm not sure we can lay that at Aaron & Candy's doorstep. The main argument to this would be that Randy seems to be fine and living a normal, self-supporting life and working a normal job. Randy & Tori certainly saw her father work hard and that he was nearly always working. Candy often read scripts and gave feedback. They both helped her memorize her lines when she had small roles in his shows as a child (ie: they showed her acting was a job and required work/prep like any other job). 

I honestly think that one of the big differences between Tori & Randy is that Tori became famous, & Randy didn't. 90210 was a really big show, & all the actors became famous enough that they were probably given the Hollywood suck up treatment by everyone. Combine that with how she was raised, & Tori has no grasp of reality. Randy was raised the same, but never obtained the level of fame she did so he got a dose of reality early on.

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1 hour ago, MyPeopleAreNordic said:

She did bring it up and ask him. He did say she had nothing to worry about and would be taken care of. IIRC, she asked for specifics and he said he'd have to check. He called her back later (after he had spoken to his lawyer/accountant/etc) and reiterated that she had nothing to worry about and would be fine because she would be getting $800k....so he apparently thought (like everything else) that should be more than enough for an already-working actress (or anyone).

I would add that, in addition to the $800K, Tori received many gifts from her parents before and after Aaron died. Candy bought Tori a house and Tori sold it and squandered the cash, which I guess is the reason that Candy has opted to pay for expensive rentals rather than buying her another house since then. Candy also pays all of Tori's bills for necessities and has established trust funds for Tori's children. Considering how awfully Tori has treated her, I would assume that Candy has been at least equally generous with Randy. For most people, being handed a lucrative career, $800K, a free house, etc., etc. would be more than enough to have a comfortable lifestyle.

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2 hours ago, TheRealT said:

Candy bought Tori a house and Tori sold it and squandered the cash, which I guess is the reason that Candy has opted to pay for expensive rentals rather than buying her another house since then. 

I never even thought of this, but I bet you're right. It would explain why they keep renting instead of buying.

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I have to vent.  If you go to her website, she has a post about Liam's birthday party, and talk about extravagant.  This was no small camp out party.  I am sure she got many things for free, but let's be honest here... how can she not see how unrelatable she is when she is in the news for being in major debt, does not pay for anything for her kids, but then shows this party where she has a huge tent, free sleeping bags, tv set up, etc, etc.?  It was a beautiful party but it just makes me frustrated to see it given her situation.

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From the amount of links in that post, it looks as if pretty much everything was free or at least comped.  I often wonder how many people actually buy stuff when they see if pushed by a celebrity.  I can see people buying Kate Middleton's dresses, because, well she's Kate Middleton and always looks good.  But a $25 pillow or a $35 pouf?  

Then again, when I looked closer all those poufs are sold out so who knows?  Maybe Tori has fans willing to buy this stuff.  

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She was a guest judge on RuPaul's Drag Race, and she wasn't terrible. She was ok. Not great. The episode was them performing an episode of 9021-HO, so she and Jenny Garth directed and were on the judges panel.

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Tori also made accusations of this sort before Candy did.  I remember a few news items where Tori hinted Candy's relationship with a family friend (I think his name was Mark) upset Aaron and that was why he died. Tori went into this in her first book. I think she was okay with burning her bridges because in the same book she talked about how she and Dean were living the simple life in a small apartment and were so very happy and didn't need money. Of course that didn't last long. 

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And what was unbelievable was Tori's outrage when she insinuated that her mom had had an affair.  I realized how delusional and toxic Tori was as I read her faux devastation that one spouse could do that to another, especially if children were involved.

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Is her uterus a clown car ala Michelle Duggar? I swear she keeps having babies for the drugs and attention. They are so irresponsible. Candy is not obligated to dig her out. Money isn't the real problem. Tori is.

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Wow. So much train wreckage in that article. T&D owed over $700K in taxes for their income in 2014, which means they must have earned a lot of money that year. Yet, Candy was paying their bills then and is still doing so. And they're still waiting to be able to afford their "forever home." And they owe EVERYONE money. Dean was 6 figures in arrears on his child support; they owed at least 6 figures in credit card bills. WTF do they spend all the money on? I know Tori spends a lot on clothes, parties, storage units, etc. and Dean buys motorcycles and other expensive recreational equipment, but still. Candy pays for their housing and other necessities.

Dean is such an asshole that he accepts millions of dollars from his mother-in-law to support his (ever growing) family, but he doesn't even pay his child support, even when he's earning good money. His kids with Tori live in fancy houses and have all the clothes, toys, etc. that money can buy, but he didn't provide financially for Jack. I don't think Jack was hungry or shoeless or anything, but still. He must have gone without something for want of that money, even if was a college fund, expensive schools or camps, a nice(r) car, whatever. So Dean's attitude was, "Fuck Jack, I want that new motorcycle." 

And they're both such hot messes that they didn't even show up for court when they were being sued for over $200K. I'm sure they could have sent an attorney without being there personally, but I guess they figured that they were going to lose the case anyway, so why bother? Yet they're having another baby.

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I've always liked Tori and maybe been somewhat of a Tori apologist but yegads . . . 

If you're that much in debt, stop having children.  Stop with the lavish parties - - most kids are perfectly happy with inviting friends over and running around in the backyard.  Get rid of the storage units.  I'm terrible about keeping things too but if you're spending as much money per month as it's been reported Tori does, that's an insane waste.  Get rid of the motorcycles and things like that.  Not necessary.  And while I get that she's a celebrity (at least of sorts) the amount of rent that's being paid is a mortgage and then some.  Get a house in Calabasas or somewhere that's a little cheaper than where they've been living. 

I understand that Candy wants to help her daughter and her grandchildren but it seems T&D will never learn at this rate. 

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