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20 minutes ago, Ladyrain said:

Oh.  I'm so sorry.  I really didn't mean to offend anyone with that remark and I should have included that disclaimer in my post.  ?

My style is more Bohemian (meaning in my wildest dreams I'd dress like Stevie Nicks everyday), so that's where that was coming from. 

Oh me too Oakville.  I love the color but not the fit(?) so much.  Kinda has that is it Lilly Pulitzer Palm Beach vibe and you need to turn the light on when rooting through my closet as 90% of it is black if you want to have a remote chance of finding anything.

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39 minutes ago, Chloesmom said:

FFS is Scarborough getting paid by the number of times he says stormtroopers this morning?

That and "goes to bed, gets up, goes to work, goes back to bed, gets back up". 

Yeah we get it, so do the rest of us do the same thing. 

I had to record this morning to watch tonight, I couldn't wait as they spend 10 minutes screaming storm troopers and explaining FBI agents sleep/work schedule, The Americans was calling to me from my dvr.  

On 5/1/2018 at 4:18 PM, oakville said:

True, but the USA kept the cash for decades.

It was part of sanctions we imposed on them.  Relieving them of the sanctions and returning the cash was part of the Iran Nuclear deal, we had to return it in one lump sum because there are no cooperating banks between the US and Iran. We couldn't wire transfer it.  The press and the GOP make this out to be much more sinister than it really is. 

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teddysmom

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I noticed last night while watching 11th Hour that the library back drop we see every day on MJ is used by all shows when someone isn't on set.

In the evening it's cast in a blue ish light. 

The Guiliani thing happened during the 9 pm Hannity so O'Donnell & Williams were all over it.  JoMika had the advantage of Williams' staff cutting those Guiliani/Hannity clips, as they were doing it live and getting them on air as they cut them.   I hope they thanked Williams and his team for getting that done so they had them ready to air this morning.  As usual, they show up and have 90% of their scripts and work done for them by the prime time shows, so all they have to do is sip on Starbucks and yell "stormtroopers!"

Kasie didn't look very happy when Mika told her the lightning bolt will never stop.   Kasie you made your bed with them, now you get to lay in it, ad infinitum. Hope it was worth it. 

1 hour ago, Chloesmom said:
1 hour ago, madfortv said:

When they talk about stormtroopers, what about Trump's people storming his doctor's office and taking not only papers but a picture off the wall? I was hoping they would make that comparison.

 

FAKE NEWS!!!

So are Nazis good or bad, in Trump world?   Because I thought Trump said there were some very fine people in the group of "Nazis-light" at the Charlottesville protests last summer, but now, not so much when the actual not Nazis, ie federal prosecutors & FBI agents under their direction, show up and take evidence under legal subpoenas for a criminal investigation. 

Hey Joe - I just did your job for you! Feel free to use this. 

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XOQueens

XOQueens

5 hours ago, suomi said:

Look at how tall that cake is! I'd want a big corner piece, to go with my hunk of pie. And milk. The flowers are beautiful. No stupid noisemakers. Joey did good.

I assumed it was probably an intern or staffer who placed the orders. Lol. Maybe I'm selling Joe short.

3 hours ago, suomi said:

Heads up: Ayman Mohyeldin on First Look said that Avenatti will be on MJ this morning.

Mika promos that it will be the top of the second hour.

I MISSED HIM?!?!!

1 hour ago, Ladyrain said:

Why does Mika go out of her way to look so frumpy?  That top today looks like something an old lady would wear to do housecleaning.  (Full disclosure: I am an old lady and even I look spiffier than that.  Well, usually, anyway.)  Between her questionable fashion choices and her white "blonde" hair, she looks old beyond her years.  SO SAD!! 

Joe must have directed her to tone down da sexy, since her crush, Michael AvenHottie is on set with her today while Joe is off somewhere in his bunker. 

I've been wondering. She used to dress so nicely and in clothes that fit her. 

I was just over on his Twitter, and Joe Scarborough is the last person who needs to be addressing evangelicals about the hypocrisy of supporting someone who has had affair/s. 

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oakville

1 hour ago, Ladyrain said:

Oh.  I'm so sorry.  I really didn't mean to offend anyone with that remark and I should have included that disclaimer in my post.  ?

My style is more Bohemian (meaning in my wildest dreams I'd dress like Stevie Nicks everyday), so that's where that was coming from. 

Mika used to wear sleeveless dresses with a high hemline. She would show off her legs. They did segments at a glass cocktail table. With Joe so you could see her full dress & legs. I thought they were trying to copy Fox & Friends.

16 minutes ago, suomi said:

Aaaand ... scene.

Mika was very dismissive of Kasie with the lightning bolt intro. It’s so rude & unprofessional

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Ladyrain

1 hour ago, teddysmom said:

Kasie didn't look very happy when Mika told her the lightning bolt will never stop

Does anyone think that old-before-her-time Mika even knows who AC/DC is?  She probably thinks its only connotation is to electrical current and scratches her head as to why Joe goes into that voice when introducing Kaisie. 

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teddysmom

teddysmom

45 minutes ago, suomi said:

They treated Willie like a red-headed stepchild, didn't they? He got a $10 cake and noisemakers. 

Please tell me it was one of those disgusting chocolate chip cookie cakes with the five tons of gross icing.   

A fellow employee buys those for people on their birthday. The CC cookie part is fine, but I end up cleaning royal blue icing off the table, floor counter, knives.  Plus it turns your tongue and teeth colors. 

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3 hours ago, XOQueens said:

I just saw the clip of Willie's birthday on Twitter. Oh man, did they bust all their budget on Mika's yesterday? Yikes lol.

I may not remember correctly, but my recollection is that Joe's cake was not that great either. It seemed to be just a generic Morning Joe cake. It seems like Mika did the best, with a cake, apple pie and flowers.

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Kemper

Kemper

Wow.  Meeka inspires us all with her Knowing Her Value.  Shallow...turned the show on around 7:30; I loved the blue top and the pushed up "girls" so I was expecting an Avenati appearance.  What was going on with the eye make-up?  Slathered on but not all that unattractive.  Has she decided to play up her blue eyes?  I had to leave so didn't get to see Avenati...wasn't he supposed to be on?

And what is this we have?  Joe not appearing on his own set for his own show for how many days now this year?  Can you imagine how many well-qualified, charismatic and intelligent reporters would kill for a 3-hour show every day?  And would be happy to come into the studio.  There must be a way to get a count.  

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Chloesmom

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Ya know Kemper they have beaten me into submission and I could care less if either of them show up or where they are.  After Joe's stormtrooper Tourette attack earlier today the show has become so undisciplined that it doesn't really matter who is in what studio anymore.  Now with Giuliani calling Comey a sensitive little baby when he defended the NY FBI, I would imagine tomorrow will be three (or maybe 2 1/2) hours of the same.  I would also imagine CNN and NBC will go halfsies on a shuttle between their studios for Avenatti as he is going to become a regular at both stations at all hours of the day.  

9 minutes ago, XOQueens said:

Lol does Mika not know one single women of color in the whole of NYC to hire?

Hee she got dragged hard on those comments didn't she?  And on her birthday . . . :)

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Chloesmom

Chloesmom

1 hour ago, Kemper said:

Wow.  Meeka inspires us all with her Knowing Her Value.  Shallow...turned the show on around 7:30; I loved the blue top and the pushed up "girls" so I was expecting an Avenati appearance.  What was going on with the eye make-up?  Slathered on but not all that unattractive.  Has she decided to play up her blue eyes?  I had to leave so didn't get to see Avenati...wasn't he supposed to be on?

And what is this we have?  Joe not appearing on his own set for his own show for how many days now this year?  Can you imagine how many well-qualified, charismatic and intelligent reporters would kill for a 3-hour show every day?  And would be happy to come into the studio.  There must be a way to get a count.  

Kemper I think Avenatti was on at the top of the last hour (they had the Avenatti clock up since pretty much the beginning of the show to let folks know).  If I were other guests I would be slightly insulted.

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Chloesmom

Chloesmom

2 minutes ago, teddysmom said:

Why does she need a staff for kyv? 

How hard is it to make chicken videos?  Or answer the phone and book a hall to tell women to Know Your Value: Do As I Say, Not As I Do 

It really is staggering the amount of money they spend on these two between staffing, bunkers, travel to remote locations for no discernible reason (never did figure out why they were in DC) and they return the favor by barely showing up and putting in a minimum of effort or prep work.  When you watch Cuomo or Camerota you can hear in their questions and follow up the work that went into their show.  All MJ has is Joe tripping the light fantastic down congressional memory lane and Mika spinning around in her chair and hurling questions that occasionally land (I think she was going to rough up Avenatti but then quickly thought better of it.  Lightning doesn't strike twice Meeks).  Both morning shows and many other cable shows throughout the day had Michael Caputo on for interviews after his interview with Mueller's team but not MJ.  It seems like their circle of "gets" is shrinking.

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teddysmom

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3 minutes ago, Chloesmom said:

Michael Caputo on for interviews after his interview with Mueller's team but not MJ.  It seems like their circle of "gets" is shrinking.

 That's right! I forgot about him! BriWi showed that interview last night, he was losing his shit over it. 

Let's face it, the serious political junkies don't watch MJ as a source of information, they know it's 5% news, 95% horseshit/ego.  Maybe since it's early in the morning MSNBC doesn't care what they do, most people aren't ready to  pay attention to a breaking story like they would in the evening.  They're running around getting ready for work, etc. 

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Ladyrain

Ladyrain

24 minutes ago, Chloesmom said:

All MJ has is Joe tripping the light fantastic down congressional memory lane and Mika spinning around in her chair and hurling questions that occasionally land (I think she was going to rough up Avenatti but then quickly thought better of it

I couldn't agree more, especially regarding Meek-a.  She really was gonna go for another "bombshell" question and answer, then Joe kicked her under the table.

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14 hours ago, Chloesmom said:

It really is staggering the amount of money they spend on these two between staffing, bunkers, travel to remote locations for no discernible reason (never did figure out why they were in DC) and they return the favor by barely showing up and putting in a minimum of effort or prep work.  When you watch Cuomo or Camerota you can hear in their questions and follow up the work that went into their show.  All MJ has is Joe tripping the light fantastic down congressional memory lane and Mika spinning around in her chair and hurling questions that occasionally land (I think she was going to rough up Avenatti but then quickly thought better of it.  Lightning doesn't strike twice Meeks).  Both morning shows and many other cable shows throughout the day had Michael Caputo on for interviews after his interview with Mueller's team but not MJ.  It seems like their circle of "gets" is shrinking.

It is exhausting to try & recap this show. I used to come home & watch the parts of the show that I missed when I left for work. Now I save it for the weekend if I am bored. I remember reading that Morning Joe was bringing in $30M in advertising revenue a couple of years ago & was very profitable for the network. It could be higher now since ratings are around 1M viewers per day. MSNBC is willing to pay Mika & Joe $15M to show up or not because revenues are probably higher than $30M.

Mika used to try & get good guests using her family Rolodex in 2008-2010. Now she could care less who os on the show.

Every day now is Trump or Trump's cronies did something outrageous. Trump is doomed & going to jail.

Nothing else is happening in the USA or the world. I am so happy that we have peace & prosperity & no crime & everything is Peachy in Syria, Africa & Asia.

Friday recap: Mika is alone today, so she is hyped up with her "Mika is a tough journalist" voice. Joe is on assignment. LOL! Probably watching a soccer game.

Donny Deutsh is back on the show after getting into an altercation in a bar with another man. It was on Page 6.

Mika is wearing a dark blue top with a v neckline. Ferecio is wearing one of those black dresses with white lines. I don't like that.

Barnicle is on the set.

Turley & Teddy Savalas are the two lawyers. Giuiliani is off his meds & making life worse for Trump. Mika said rump told them during the transition that Giuliani was too erratic to be Secretary of State.

The top 2 words today were StormTroopers & Porn Star.

I am tired of Stormy Daniels porn star case.

Did anyone think that Trump wouldn't have had affairs with porn stars or other women in the 1990's & 2000's?

Mika was mad that Trump went to the prayer breakfast.

He was unfaithful to his wife just like you & Joe were to your spouses.

15 minutes ago, Chloesmom said:

So I guess today's drinking game is going to be Trumps Chump as Mika is going to shoehorn the funny Joe made in his WP column as many times as she can.

Everyone on the panel was excited about Joe's latest column in the Washington Post.

I like the Bill Karins weather forecast.

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oakville

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CNN is talking about the allegations against Charlie Rose. Charlie Rose , Mark Halperin & Harold Ford Jr & Donny Deutsh were the big name guests at Mika & Joe's engagement party last fall.

I find it hilarious that Mika is surrounded by all these sexual predators, yet doesn't even bother to discuss it on the air. All this outrage from her about Trump & Porn Stars just makes me laugh.

I wonder what will happen  if  allegations of sexual misconduct come out against Donnie. Will he still be allowed on the show?

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Chloesmom

Chloesmom

4 minutes ago, oakville said:

CNN is talking about the allegations against Charlie Rose. Charlie Rose , Mark Halperin & Harold Ford Jr & Donny Deutsh were the big name guests at Mika & Joe's engagement party last fall.

I find it hilarious that Mika is surrounded by all these sexual predators, yet doesn't even bother to discuss it on the air. All this outrage from her about Trump & Porn Stars just makes me laugh.

I wonder what will happen  if  allegations of sexual misconduct come out against Donnie. Will he still be allowed on the show?

Yes of course along with his victims so she can explain that he is really sorry and can't we all be friends?  Good segment by Alisyn she knows her value.

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oakville

oakville

The Washington Post reporter is reporting that former Morning Joe Producer Chris Licht knew that Charlie Rose was sexually harassing young employees. Licht now produces the Colbert Report. Licht did not escalate the report to senior management at CBS . Licht decided not to tell senior management about the sexual harassment.

Mika was working at CBS & 60 Minutes in the 1990's & 2000's. I wonder if Mika will defend Charlie Rose like she did with Tom Brokaw.

Did Rose flirt with Mika?

I like New Day. It's a normal show.

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Chloesmom

Chloesmom

4 minutes ago, oakville said:

I like New Day. It's a normal show.

I watch it now because I don't find the hosts shoving their opinion/history into whatever the topic is plus they have a much better selection of guests (like Mooch!).  I also find them to be better debaters and try and get to the truth as best they can.  Yes they have been stuck on segments that were an automatic click for me.  To be honest I am surprised their ratings are lagging behind MJ but I believe they are almost in a dead heat in the desired 25-54 segment of viewers.

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Chloesmom

Chloesmom

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6 minutes ago, oakville said:

The White House is in Chaos!. Hire a clown. Expect a Circus.

Eugene Robinson is back on the set of Morning Joe. Are they in Washington? Donny Deutsh says that Trump will start a civil war if he gets impeached.

Is that possible?

Hey there is a new guy on Morning Joe.

That guy started popping up I believe yesterday afternoon as I saw him on the afternoon shows.  I went to look up who he is on their Twitter feed (they didn't release the list of guest names until 15 after the show started, sigh) but I did notice Carol Burnett is going to be on so I need to remember to tune in probably at the end of the show.

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XOQueens

XOQueens

31 minutes ago, oakville said:

CNN is talking about the allegations against Charlie Rose. Charlie Rose , Mark Halperin & Harold Ford Jr & Donny Deutsh were the big name guests at Mika & Joe's engagement party last fall.

I find it hilarious that Mika is surrounded by all these sexual predators, yet doesn't even bother to discuss it on the air. All this outrage from her about Trump & Porn Stars just makes me laugh.

I wonder what will happen  if  allegations of sexual misconduct come out against Donnie. Will he still be allowed on the show?

That's a weird one, innit. Everyone's known about Donnie's misconduct for years, but his entire persona is built about being a "womanizer" so the conversation about him always spins around that instead. He's on record praising Trump for his ickiness before they became enemies.

22 minutes ago, oakville said:

The Washington Post reporter is reporting that former Morning Joe Producer Chris Licht knew that Charlie Rose was sexually harassing young employees. Licht now produces the Colbert Report. Licht did not escalate the report to senior management at CBS . Licht decided not to tell senior management about the sexual harassment.

Mika was working at CBS & 60 Minutes in the 1990's & 2000's. I wonder if Mika will defend Charlie Rose like she did with Tom Brokaw.

I didn't know this latest development and MJ link, thanks for sharing Oakville. Disappointing. I don't know how Mika's KYV isn't being torn down as the result of her proximity to all of this. I can't believe she didn't know what was going on. In situations like that almost everyone working in the environment knows. The whole Morning Joe family needs to be asked some tough questions and do some introspection on why they have an environment so very welcoming to male sexual harassers. 

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Chloesmom

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I'm glad they included the clip of Nicolle saying SHS lost the room yesterday as it was a powerful moment when I watched her show yesterday but I totally disagree that this isn't SHS "fault".  If you want to stand up there and trot that garbage out that is on YOU (same with anyone that works in the WH).  Enough of the excuses.

#basta

A couple more deep sighs like that and Mika is going to pass out.

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oakville

oakville

1 hour ago, Chloesmom said:

I watch it now because I don't find the hosts shoving their opinion/history into whatever the topic is plus they have a much better selection of guests (like Mooch!).  I also find them to be better debaters and try and get to the truth as best they can.  Yes they have been stuck on segments that were an automatic click for me.  To be honest I am surprised their ratings are lagging behind MJ but I believe they are almost in a dead heat in the desired 25-54 segment of viewers.

I wish I could get more detailed rating reports. I am stunned that 1 million people tune it to watch Boring Joe. I suppose I watch now like I would watch the on bronco car chase. You know it will crash but when?

I hope the show focuses on the midterm elections in the fall. 

I hope Mueller comes out with his report before the election. 

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stormy

stormy

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I was almost surprised to see Donnie this morning. Guess his kerfuffle wasn't a big deal.

Danny Cevallos was a long time CNN contributor. He must have gotten a lot of money to jump ship

 

I turned to CNN when Emily Rose showed up so she and Donnie could discuss their friend Michael Cohen.

There's Chris Cuomo interviewing Scaramucchi. Yikes. Can't make up the crazy shit he says. Poor Chris.

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teddysmom

teddysmom

4 hours ago, Ladyrain said:

A thing of beauty ?.  Are you on twitter?  Could you perchance (? word list ?) tweet this to Meek-a?  ?

I am and I will. 

2 hours ago, stormy said:

Danny Cevallos was a long time CNN contributor. He must have gotten a lot of money to jump ship

He's really good. Rachel had him on last night.  I like him better than Ari when it comes to legal explanations, he's not as  blunt as Ari Melber, and doesn't try to impress with rap references that no one gets. 

Maybe Mika could watch Rachel and learn something. Oh that's right, Joe hates Rachel, and Rachel already knows her value. 

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teddysmom

teddysmom

Mika & Joe "lobbied against Guiliani being SoS" because he seemed different. 

Well, I'll just tell you that during the transition, Donald Trump told both Joe and me that Giuliani was a little out of it, was kind of losing it, and would fall asleep," Brzezinski said.

So when exactly was it that you two were "so hard on Trump, and  always professional, and just trying to get an interview"? 

Are you two "journalists" (HA) or political consultants. 

Pick a lane, and then STFU

https://crooksandliars.com/2018/05/mika-brzezinski-trump-told-us-rudy-was

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Xena

Xena

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3 hours ago, teddysmom said:

Oh that's right, Joe hates Rachel,

Ooooh..... I don't know about this?  I mean, I can surmise that he hates her because she's smart, has a detailed well thought out show full of facts and figures and history, and gets better ratings than him?

Or is there something else?  ;)

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oakville

oakville

1 hour ago, stormy said:

No. Everything is always posted under Networks.

Oakville, if you jump ship and recap New Day,  I'll be on board.  I'm tuning into MJ less and less and only to kibbitz with you guys.  ?

I used t recap Morning Joe to keep track of whether or not Mika & Joe political predictions made any sense. Now it's just fashion talk & Joe getting outraged over everything Trump says. New Day looks like a show I would watch & pay attention to.

I would like to get Mika's response to the Charlie Rose mess. Mika worked on 60 minutes II. What the hell was going on there ? Why was Chris Licht turning a blind eye to sexual misconduct? Was he doing this on Morning Joe as well ? Mika is the only woman co host on Morning Joe. I wonder if any low level Morning Joe staffers were sexually harassed by Halperin or others?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/charlie-roses-misconduct-was-widespread-at-cbs-and-three-managers-were-warned-investigation-finds/2018/05/02/80613d24-3228-11e8-94fa-32d48460b955_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.f784acf7adb6

Just now, Xena said:

Ooooh..... I don't know about this?  I mean, I can surmise that he hates her because she's smart, has a thoughtful detailed well thought out show full of facts and figures and history, and gets better ratings than him?

Or is there something else?  ;)

There are clips on You Tube of Joe & Rachel getting into loud arguments on Meet The Press & other shows. Joe has not been allowed back on Meet The Press since then.

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