Soulfire May 12, 2015 Share May 12, 2015 The dialogue tease is definitely Felicity, haha. Can someone please tell me what Ra's is saying after Oliver tells him "I was dreaming"? and before Ra's says, "There are three types of dreams?" All I hear is [Aussie Nanda Parbatian mumble]. 3 Link to comment
Scribbles May 12, 2015 Share May 12, 2015 The only viable answer I can see Oliver giving to someone asking how he thought he would repair all this is: He didn't think he could. Link to comment
statsgirl May 12, 2015 Share May 12, 2015 (edited) Ra's: [Arabic name, sounds like Ibn Surim] once wrote that.... Later he says "soon you will wear this, and I shall call you Ra's". Wait, didn't MG say that the position of Ra's was for life? How could this Ra's call Oliver Ra's? Edited May 12, 2015 by statsgirl 3 Link to comment
apinknightmare May 12, 2015 Share May 12, 2015 Ra's: [Arabic name, sounds like Ibn Surim] once wrote that.... Later he says "soon you will wear this, and I shall call you Ra's". Wait, didn't MG say that the position of Ra's was for life? How could this Ra's call Oliver Ra's? He said it was a position you held until death. DUN DUN DUNNNNNNN... But he probably forgot about that. 1 Link to comment
Jillibean May 12, 2015 Share May 12, 2015 Wait, didn't MG say that the position of Ra's was for life? How could this Ra's call Oliver Ra's? Perhaps he is going to be the Dowager Ra's, or Ra's emeritus. 19 Link to comment
SmallScreenDiva May 12, 2015 Share May 12, 2015 Hmm, wondering now if the sunset and Porsche scene is a dream after seeing the new Arrow clip. Ra's mentioned 3 types of dreams: desire, temptation and 1 more I can't recall. So maybe Oliver and Felicity don't drive off into the sunset after all? That's just Oliver dreaming of that scenario? 3 Link to comment
Soulfire May 12, 2015 Share May 12, 2015 Ra's: [Arabic name, sounds like Ibn Surim] once wrote that.... Thanks for clarifying! Oh, Ra's. You little go-getter, you. Link to comment
apinknightmare May 12, 2015 Share May 12, 2015 Hmm, wondering now if the sunset and Porsche scene is a dream after seeing the new Arrow clip. Ra's mentioned 3 types of dreams: desire, temptation and 1 more I can't recall. So maybe Oliver and Felicity don't drive off into the sunset after all? That's just Oliver dreaming of that scenario? Haha, probably. I bet he gives Felicity a very chaste kiss over the stick shift, in true Oliver Queen dream sequence fashion. Double troll possibility: it's a dream AND it comes true. 4 Link to comment
Soulfire May 12, 2015 Share May 12, 2015 (edited) Hmm, wondering now if the sunset and Porsche scene is a dream after seeing the new Arrow clip. Ra's mentioned 3 types of dreams: desire, temptation and 1 more I can't recall. So maybe Oliver and Felicity don't drive off into the sunset after all? That's just Oliver dreaming of that scenario? I refuse. I deserve good things. Edited May 12, 2015 by Soulfire 18 Link to comment
SmallScreenDiva May 12, 2015 Share May 12, 2015 Haha, probably. I bet he gives Felicity a very chaste kiss over the stick shift, in true Oliver Queen dream sequence fashion. Double troll possibility: it's a dream AND it comes true. LOL! Definitely a possibility and I like that idea. Because it would totally knock online fans for a loop if that scene shows up near the beginning of the ep. I wouldn't put it past these writers ;) Link to comment
Angel12d May 12, 2015 Share May 12, 2015 (edited) Hmm, wondering now if the sunset and Porsche scene is a dream after seeing the new Arrow clip. Ra's mentioned 3 types of dreams: desire, temptation and 1 more I can't recall. So maybe Oliver and Felicity don't drive off into the sunset after all? That's just Oliver dreaming of that scenario? I've been thinking this for a while now because this show just likes to kick you when you're down. Oh, this doesn't hurt enough? Here, have some dirt in your eye! LOL. Not saying it's a dream but I wouldn't be surprised if it is. Edited May 12, 2015 by Angel12d 3 Link to comment
AyChihuahua May 12, 2015 Share May 12, 2015 Yeah, it's probably a dream. It wouldn't fit their "We work to come up with the worst possible thing to happen to Oliver" ideal. I'm fairly sure they end up on good terms, though, both for out-of-show reasons, and because they look quite cheery together in the new lair, which is almost certainly not a dream. 1 Link to comment
quarks May 12, 2015 Share May 12, 2015 Ra's, far be it from me to advise you on your recruiting techniques, but that claw thing on your finger? Not really a selling a point. Focus on the fact that Ra's al Ghul gets hot sex rooms and magical hot tubs. Trust me on this. 12 Link to comment
catahoulamama May 12, 2015 Share May 12, 2015 Sooo....what are the odds that Oliver's dream that immediately precedes this clip is the sunset and porsche scene? https://amp.twimg.com/v/f294863f-5200-423d-a4b6-da898c96c9a3 3 Link to comment
AyChihuahua May 12, 2015 Share May 12, 2015 Less than 27 hours until this hell is over!!! 3 Link to comment
Angel12d May 12, 2015 Share May 12, 2015 (edited) Haha. Yeaaaaah. Now that I've seen that clip, I'm almost expecting it to be a dream. That being said, he could dream something similar and then actually make it happen by the end of the episode. Who knows? Hahaha, we get the first "I love you" wrapped in a ruse and happy sunset drives confined to dreams. I'm cry-laughing. Edited May 12, 2015 by Angel12d 5 Link to comment
Sunshine May 12, 2015 Share May 12, 2015 Seriously though, would Oliver at this stage of the game really be sleeping/dreaming? There is too much at stake. 3 Link to comment
catahoulamama May 12, 2015 Share May 12, 2015 Seriously though, would Oliver at this stage of the game really be sleeping/dreaming? There is too much at stake. Depends on how many days he's been without sleep. Seriously, when does anyone on this show sleep? LOL 1 Link to comment
Tallis May 12, 2015 Share May 12, 2015 If you had to share a room with a woman who seriously wants you dead and happens to be a (fairly) deadly assassin - how much sleep would you get? 8 Link to comment
catahoulamama May 12, 2015 Share May 12, 2015 Haha. Yeaaaaah. Now that I've seen that clip, I'm almost expecting it to be a dream. That being said, he could dream something similar and then actually make it happen by the end of the episode. Who knows? Hahaha, we get the first "I love you" wrapped in a ruse and happy sunset drives confined to dreams. I'm cry-laughing. I've thought it would likely be a dream anyway because truly genuine happy scenes just don't happen on this show...there's always some sense of dread or anvil hanging over their heads during the fleeting "happy" bits. Making the whole "ride off into the sunset" deal a dream is *so* how this show rolls. Link to comment
DrSpaceman10 May 12, 2015 Share May 12, 2015 (edited) Whether that car scene is real or not (I do think it's real), Oliver/Felicity are most probably going to end the season in a relationship. Stephen Amell said that O/F take their relationship to the next level and they've already slept together, so dating it is. Since this show doesn't seem to do straight-up happy moments, I would say that Oliver still being married to Nyssa will be the twist/gotcha. Edited May 12, 2015 by DrSpaceman10 Link to comment
ostentatious May 12, 2015 Share May 12, 2015 (edited) I'm feeling the dream too, guys. Ugh. This show exhausts me. I would like it to stop exhausting me. I do think they'll end on an up note for them, but at this point I'm not expecting it to be any more than landing us right back where we were in 301, like...giving another date a try. Edited May 12, 2015 by ostentatious 2 Link to comment
AyChihuahua May 12, 2015 Share May 12, 2015 "I would say that Oliver still being married to Nyssa will be the twist/gotcha." As an attorney, that would drive me, almost literally, batshit crazy. There is precisely ZERO possibility that that would be a legal marriage in the United States. 2 Link to comment
jay741982 May 12, 2015 Share May 12, 2015 Whether that car scene is real or not (I do think it's real), Oliver/Felicity are most probably going to end the season in a relationship. Stephen Amell said that O/F take their relationship to the next level and they've already slept together, so dating it is. Since this show doesn't seem to do straight-up happy moments, I would say that Oliver still being married to Nyssa will be the twist/gotcha. I vote for Olicity being in a relationship but Felicity makes that boy Grovel BIG time lol. Ugh to Oliver/Nyssa marriage Still being valid Link to comment
statsgirl May 12, 2015 Share May 12, 2015 But, but, but, if Oliver is married to Nyssa, wouldn't being with Felicity be adultery? It has to be more than just one date over the summer hiatus. Link to comment
AyChihuahua May 12, 2015 Share May 12, 2015 The funny part is that probably no U.S. court would even take jurisdiction to grant an annulment or divorce, because there's no legal marriage to start with. Like when a gay couple marry in NY and then move to Texas and try to divorce there...Texas courts typically refuse to grant the divorce to the gay couple because in Texas they're not married...can't divorce if you're not married. Also, BATSHIT CRAZY. 4 Link to comment
DrSpaceman10 May 12, 2015 Share May 12, 2015 Yeah, I don't see how the marriage can be legal, but there was this paragraph in a spoiler-y article posted today: Link to comment
catahoulamama May 12, 2015 Share May 12, 2015 Whether that car scene is real or not (I do think it's real), Oliver/Felicity are most probably going to end the season in a relationship. Stephen Amell said that O/F take their relationship to the next level and they've already slept together, so dating it is. Since this show doesn't seem to do straight-up happy moments, I would say that Oliver still being married to Nyssa will be the twist/gotcha. The fact that dating is the "next" step *after* sex makes me feel really old. LOL 5 Link to comment
GirlvsTV May 12, 2015 Share May 12, 2015 The only thing this show has been consistent with this year, is constantly dashing my hopes these characters might actually get to be happy for more than half an episode. I still think the Porsche might be real though. I mean that seems like an awfully expensive set up (car, location, camera rig, etc) for a dream sequence. Let me live in denial until tomorrow. 5 Link to comment
tarotx May 12, 2015 Share May 12, 2015 (edited) What's the percentage of legality if the LOA priestess is American and submitted the paperwork in the USA? Being a couple would be the next step or level after sex imo. "Dating" over simplifies what makes a couple. The fact that dating is the "next" step *after* sex makes me feel really old. LOL Edited May 12, 2015 by tarotx 1 Link to comment
Morena May 12, 2015 Share May 12, 2015 (edited) I believe that in the end something good between Olicity should happen because of this twitter Charlotte Ross @charlotterossHappy Birthday @amellywood #arrow #MamaSmoak #HappyBirthdayStephenAmell #HappyBirthday Stephen Amell@amellywoodThank you! The maternal instincts of your fictional character will LOVE the finale. xo. Edited May 12, 2015 by Morena 1 Link to comment
BkWurm1 May 12, 2015 Share May 12, 2015 If anyone is wondering about the timing, MG tweeted that the Flash episode tonight takes place just before tomorrow's Arrow. But we know that Barry shows up shortly after they got gassed LAST week so what he's really saying is that this week's Flash takes place a day before LAST week's Arrow. About Oliver and Nyssa really being married, it feels like a left over question about last week's episode questioning if they really truly official were married rather than a legal commentary about the validity of the marriage. Of course Felicity is going to have some choice words but that has nothing to do with if a marriage mandated on threat of death has any validity. 1 Link to comment
SleepDeprived May 12, 2015 Share May 12, 2015 What's the percentage of legality if the LOA priestess is American and submitted the paperwork in the USA? Hahaha! The idea that the LoA are such sticklers for the legality of the law that they would take the time to fill up marriage paperwork, FedEx it over to the States, and have all their "t"s and "i"s crossed and dotted is incredibly hilarious to me. Never mind that they kill their own members during training practices, assassinate whomever they please, bully people into changing their names, burn entire cities to the ground, and terrorize people just to realize some obscure prophecy. But, oh, they gotta get those signatures for that marriage license in order! 6 Link to comment
Genki May 12, 2015 Share May 12, 2015 Does the LP have a secondary use as a hot tub time machine? These cross over timings make no sense. 7 Link to comment
Sunshine May 12, 2015 Share May 12, 2015 (edited) According to TVLine's scorecard there is 1 Time Warp left. Maybe Barry steals Oliver to help him. When he rests time it appears that Al Sahim has been dozing. Meanwhile Barry is off to NP to set the captives free. It could happen (but probably wont) ;) Edited May 12, 2015 by Sunshine Link to comment
nksarmi May 12, 2015 Share May 12, 2015 Weren't we already wondering how the show could go on, since the show is called Arrow and everyone in SC now believes Roy Harper was the Arrow and that the Arrow is now dead? That's the key question. They can find a new lair and they can rebuild relationships. But how do they again have an Arrow vigilante in SC? I would say that they all relocate to another city, but that future headline referred to Green Arrow being from Starling City. Methos was my fave character on Highlander. I used him for comparison only for the plot device of having a powerful guy masquerading as a normal guy. No other comparison to Malcolm. Although I would point out that, even though Methos ended up helping Duncan, IIRC, he did start out as one of the Four Horsemen and did a lot of evil back in the day. But current day Methos, as played by PW, was just so charismatic and likeable. I think Four Horseman Methos was the perfect what to show a villain who you could believe someday could become a hero. Whoever wrote that character was just plain brilliant. 3 Link to comment
blixie May 13, 2015 Share May 13, 2015 Let me live in denial until tomorrow. I'm TRYIN', but if it's dream they can kiss my ass goodbye as a viewer. I don't need to be this tired by watching a tv show. Ain't nobody got time for this shit. 9 Link to comment
AyChihuahua May 13, 2015 Share May 13, 2015 "I don't need to be this tired by watching a tv show. Ain't nobody got time for this shit." Preach it, my friend. Link to comment
apinknightmare May 13, 2015 Share May 13, 2015 I'm TRYIN', but if it's dream they can kiss my ass goodbye as a viewer. I don't need to be this tired by watching a tv show. Ain't nobody got time for this shit. If it is a dream, I'd hate to be the guy who spoiled that scene on Twitter, haha. 1 Link to comment
ostentatious May 13, 2015 Share May 13, 2015 There really isn't anything I'm looking forward to tomorrow. Real talk, I haven't even watched the last two eps. Sat in a chat room with EST people relaying what was happening and had no desire to see any of it myself. Nothing I know about the finale is making me feel any more like watching. 3 Link to comment
SmallScreenDiva May 13, 2015 Share May 13, 2015 If it is a dream, I'd hate to be the guy who spoiled that scene on Twitter, haha. LOL! Awww, poor Andy will be fine. Dude didn't even know what he was spoiling since he said he never watched Arrow. Folks on Twitter had to send him photos of EBR to make sure she's the one he saw in the passenger seat :) Link to comment
apinknightmare May 13, 2015 Share May 13, 2015 LOL! Awww, poor Andy will be fine. Dude didn't even know what he was spoiling since he said he never watched Arrow. Folks on Twitter had to send him photos of EBR to make sure she's the one he saw in the passenger seat :) I wasn't saying he'd deserve a barrage, just that he very well might get one. Link to comment
AyChihuahua May 13, 2015 Share May 13, 2015 (edited) I bet Firestorm grabbed Oliver. Wow, Eobard just told Oliver he lives to be 86 years old. If Oliver/the show doesn't just forget about that, that's huge for him. Edited May 13, 2015 by AyChihuahua 2 Link to comment
apinknightmare May 13, 2015 Share May 13, 2015 So, Oliver just dropped out of the sky and then asked Barry for a favor without actually telling him what the favor is? And this ep is supposed to take place RIGHT before tomorrow's ep, or just somewhere in the general vicinity of before, while Oliver is hatching his plan? Also, what Wells said about him. <3 6 Link to comment
ostentatious May 13, 2015 Share May 13, 2015 Seriously. How you wanna spend the next 56 years, Oliver? 11 Link to comment
AyChihuahua May 13, 2015 Share May 13, 2015 (edited) Honestly, I think it will just be forgotten, but if not, that would pretty much change EVERYTHING for him. I really appreciate that I can watch The Flash like regular viewers watch Arrow. I like it fine, but none of it ever sticks with me and I don't particularly care about any of it (except Cisco, I do love Cisco). We may have just discovered the moment he realized he could actually be with Felicity. Although again, Arrow will probably space it. Edited May 13, 2015 by AyChihuahua 9 Link to comment
wonderwall May 13, 2015 Share May 13, 2015 I hope Arrow brings up how Oliver discovers he's going to live till he's 86 and use that as Oliver's realization to stop being an emotionally constipated butt. A cute emotionally constipated butt, I'll give him that. 9 Link to comment
Sunshine May 13, 2015 Share May 13, 2015 There is an EW interview with MG (I can't get it to link from this device) that says one death sticks. So if there are 2 deaths, someone uses the LP. He also mentions an end to the Thea and Malcolm arc. I don't know if this means Malcolm dies or if the two of them come to some kind of understanding because he is helping Oliver. Link to comment
calliope1975 May 13, 2015 Share May 13, 2015 So, Oliver just dropped out of the sky and then asked Barry for a favor without actually telling him what the favor is? And this ep is supposed to take place RIGHT before tomorrow's ep, or just somewhere in the general vicinity of before, while Oliver is hatching his plan? Also, what Wells said about him. <3 So, The Flash answered none of the questions I had about the timeline and Oliver showing up in CC. I guess I'll just handwave it away with the many, many other things that don't make sense. 5 Link to comment
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