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2 minutes ago, Iju said:

well i checked ao3 and it's in its beta. how long has that been? lol

i guess i can understand the simplicity of the websites but i mean nothing is stopping or harming them from at least updating the buttons a bit lmao.

i checked FF and pressed TV and SPN is right at the top, lol. wasn't expecting that. it has over 120k hits but ao3 has 170k. comparing ao3 obviously has more content but FF doesn't seem too bad either. 

It's been in beta since its inception - but they are always improving the serviceability of it. And again - it's free (unless you choose to donate, but there are no 'perks' or benefits if you do - every member has the same experience). I'm grateful they collect fan works in one place, both as a reader and writer. I have a fancy LJ which I pay not to have ads on, and it's lovely and customized, and I got more hits on my story in one day on AO3 than in two years on LJ. So yeah, I don't really care about the buttons, lol.

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1 hour ago, gonzosgirrl said:

It's been in beta since its inception - but they are always improving the serviceability of it. And again - it's free (unless you choose to donate, but there are no 'perks' or benefits if you do - every member has the same experience). I'm grateful they collect fan works in one place, both as a reader and writer. I have a fancy LJ which I pay not to have ads on, and it's lovely and customized, and I got more hits on my story in one day on AO3 than in two years on LJ. So yeah, I don't really care about the buttons, lol.

sorry, what is LJ??

When I was writing regularly I did most of my posting on ff.net, but I never found it very useful for finding good fic as a site. In terms of reading there I had favorite authors I followed or got recs. One of the things I like about AO3 is that you can filter by "kudos." That's been helpful for me in terms of finding well-written (usually :)) stories when I'm in a fan fiction reading mood.

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1 hour ago, Wayward Son said:

Can anyone recommend some good fics? I’m in the mood for reading them. 

 

I tend to like 

- AUs 

- Long Fics - 100k plus but I’m open to shorter too of course. 

- Castiel involvement 

 

I’m not super picky and my only no no is fics that have Cas as the out and out bad guy. 

Any particular pairing preferences or dislikes?

4 minutes ago, takalotti said:

Any particular pairing preferences or dislikes?

I’m not a fan of Wincest. If the fic has a strong plot and it’s more referenced than a key part of the fic I can tolerate it, but if one of the main theme of the fic is the development of a romantic/sexual relationship between Sam and Dean no thanks lol. 

 

Also when I say AU I don’t mean it has to be totally different world to the show. I’ve enjoyed fics involving characters travelling back in time to change key events or a what if fic for example I read an interesting one where Sam never left Stanford with Dean in Pilot and it resulted in Dean Having to work closer with the likes of Bobby, Ellen etc.  

Disclaimers: Well, I’m a Destiel fan, so all the fanfic I have to recommend is that pairing. And I pretty much only read smut because I’m a dirty bird ? But the good news is that most of the ones I’ve read that are 100k+ like you requested are mostly plot (though often romantic plot) rather than all about the smut. Here goes!

There is of course the ever famous Twist and Shout which is just shy of the 100k mark. If you haven’t heard of it, be warned that it is heartbreaking at times. I didn’t go through a whole box of tissues, but I used countless tissues.

Painted Angels

Kiss the Baker, but I’m pretty sure you have to have an AO3 account to read this one

Satin and Sawdust

Hunting for Faith

You Can Keep Holding On, not an AU but still worth the rec.

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53 minutes ago, takalotti said:

Disclaimers: Well, I’m a Destiel fan, so all the fanfic I have to recommend is that pairing. And I pretty much only read smut because I’m a dirty bird ? But the good news is that most of the ones I’ve read that are 100k+ like you requested are mostly plot (though often romantic plot) rather than all about the smut. Here goes!

There is of course the ever famous Twist and Shout which is just shy of the 100k mark. If you haven’t heard of it, be warned that it is heartbreaking at times. I didn’t go through a whole box of tissues, but I used countless tissues.

Painted Angels

Kiss the Baker, but I’m pretty sure you have to have an AO3 account to read this one

Satin and Sawdust

Hunting for Faith

You Can Keep Holding On, not an AU but still worth the rec.

I’ll check these out! 

 

I used to ship Destiel, but I stopped back when s9 aired. I don’t mind fics featuring the pairing though :)

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1 hour ago, takalotti said:

Disclaimers: Well, I’m a Destiel fan, so all the fanfic I have to recommend is that pairing. And I pretty much only read smut because I’m a dirty bird ? But the good news is that most of the ones I’ve read that are 100k+ like you requested are mostly plot (though often romantic plot) rather than all about the smut. Here goes!

There is of course the ever famous Twist and Shout which is just shy of the 100k mark. If you haven’t heard of it, be warned that it is heartbreaking at times. I didn’t go through a whole box of tissues, but I used countless tissues.

Painted Angels

Kiss the Baker, but I’m pretty sure you have to have an AO3 account to read this one

Satin and Sawdust

Hunting for Faith

You Can Keep Holding On, not an AU but still worth the rec.

I loved Painted Angels, although it's a little sad for my tastes, it's well written and I enjoyed it none the less. Kiss The Baker and Satin and Sawdust are great, I'll have to check out the others. Thanks for asking for these WS, I've needed some good recs too. 

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Thanks for all the great fic rec guys :) . 

 

I was thinking, how would people feel about trying to set up some sort of fic reading group? I’ve seen it happen on other forums. One person in the group could suggest a fic they’ve read before or want to read for the first time and the group then aim to read and discuss the fic within a week or two before moving on to the next? 

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8 minutes ago, Wayward Son said:

Thanks for all the great fic rec guys :) . 

 

I was thinking, how would people feel about trying to set up some sort of fic reading group? I’ve seen it happen on other forums. One person in the group could suggest a fic they’ve read before or want to read for the first time and the group then aim to read and discuss the fic within a week or two before moving on to the next? 

I'd be open to the idea, the only thing I won't read is Wincest and RPF (with one exception involving a goddess doing a life swap) no offense to those that do, it's just not my thing, oh and those reader self inserts whatever they're called.

ETA: My one exception or maybe two since there's a sequel :Things are finally settling back down to normal since Cas gave up his grace to cure Dean of the Mark. Well, as normal as their lives are allowed to get. Sam relentlessly finds new cases to work, one right after the other; but Dean thinks they need a break to let Cas have some purely human fun, for once. It’s true they had a difficult time readjusting to humanity at first, but Dean thinks Cas deserves to do more than ride around in the back seat and follow them on monster hunts. Then again, Dean’s a little bit scared to ask exactly what Cas would want, just in case it doesn’t include spending quite so much time with him. And with Sam (of course).
Sam’s been tracking a series of odd occurrences in Laramie, Wyoming for the last few weeks that looks just enough like a case to finally convince Dean they should go check it out. Whether they like it or not, the goddess responsible for the weirdness in Laramie takes an immediate interest in the three less-than-perfectly-happy hunters who’ve stumbled into her town.

https://archiveofourown.org/works/4856132/chapters/11127986

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14 minutes ago, trxr4kids said:

I'd be open to the idea, the only thing I won't read is Wincest and RPF (with one exception involving a goddess doing a life swap) no offense to those that do, it's just not my thing, oh and those reader self inserts whatever they're called.

ETA: My one exception or maybe two since there's a sequel :Things are finally settling back down to normal since Cas gave up his grace to cure Dean of the Mark. Well, as normal as their lives are allowed to get. Sam relentlessly finds new cases to work, one right after the other; but Dean thinks they need a break to let Cas have some purely human fun, for once. It’s true they had a difficult time readjusting to humanity at first, but Dean thinks Cas deserves to do more than ride around in the back seat and follow them on monster hunts. Then again, Dean’s a little bit scared to ask exactly what Cas would want, just in case it doesn’t include spending quite so much time with him. And with Sam (of course).
Sam’s been tracking a series of odd occurrences in Laramie, Wyoming for the last few weeks that looks just enough like a case to finally convince Dean they should go check it out. Whether they like it or not, the goddess responsible for the weirdness in Laramie takes an immediate interest in the three less-than-perfectly-happy hunters who’ve stumbled into her town.

https://archiveofourown.org/works/4856132/chapters/11127986

I’m not really interested in Wincest either so depending on who else is interested we could either a) Avoid certain ships / topics if a dislike of them is common to everyone who displays interest in joining a fic reading group or b) If everyone who wants to join likes Wincest except us two then they can rec them and we can just bow out for that particular week? I think such logistics could probably be worked out once we’ve an idea of who all would be interested in a group read :) .

 

what all pairings do you enjoy reading in fic? I tend to read more for the plot  than romance/smut so I’m often pretty flexible re pairings if the plot intrigues me enough. 

4 minutes ago, Wayward Son said:

what all pairings do you enjoy reading in fic? I tend to read more for the plot  than romance/smut so I’m often pretty flexible re pairings if the plot intrigues me enough. 

I tend to read more for plot myself so as long as it sounds good to me I'm flexible with those few exceptions. I especially enjoy time travel, au due to time travel or just general cannon divergence. I prefer fics where no one is an asshole and if there is conflict it's brief, understandable and resolved completely. I have many fics that I enjoy with no pairings whatsoever.

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10 minutes ago, trxr4kids said:

I tend to read more for plot myself so as long as it sounds good to me I'm flexible with those few exceptions. I especially enjoy time travel, au due to time travel or just general cannon divergence. I prefer fics where no one is an asshole and if there is conflict it's brief, understandable and resolved completely. I have many fics that I enjoy with no pairings whatsoever.

It sounds like you and I have similar tastes in fic :D. 

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Well, I’m game. I’m also reading LotR "with" a friend, so I think having a week even for shorter fics would be good.

I’m also not interested in Wincest. I'm ambivalent to RPF. I'm cool with ones that aren’t centered around a relationship, but fair warning: All the recs I’ll be making are Destiel romances, but I’ll make sure to leave out the ones that are more porn than plot ?

WS, did you pick one of the recs? Maybe we could start with that (even though I know we just said we'd start with smaller ones)?

Edited by takalotti

How about a fic @trxr4kids recommended to me? It’s the shortest of the rec fics I believe so the most suited to starting off short. 

 

Fic Link: How (thanks to Gabriel) Dean and Castiel (accidentally) raised each other (and Sam).

Words: 69693

Rating: Explicit

Archive Warning:

    Graphic Depictions Of Violence

Category: M/M

Relationships: Castiel/Dean Winchester, Gabriel/Sam Winchester

Characters: Castiel, Dean Winchester, Sam Winchester, Gabriel (Supernatural), John Winchester. Bobby Singer, Adam Milligan

Additional Tags: Weechesters, Kid Fic, Dreams, Growing Up,,Alternate Universe

Language: English

 

If it’s agreeable to both @takalotti and @trxr4kids we could start today and all aim to be done and ready for the next on March 25th?

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5 hours ago, Wayward Son said:

If it’s agreeable to both @takalotti and @trxr4kids we could start today and all aim to be done and ready for the next on March 25th?

Sounds good to me! And of course anyone who wants to join in by then is welcome to. Do we just post our thoughts whenever we’re done, even if it’s a day later? Or wait until closer to the 25th? And our thoughts should be spoiler tagged, right?

I'm an overthinker!

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1 hour ago, takalotti said:

Sounds good to me! And of course anyone who wants to join in by then is welcome to. Do we just post our thoughts whenever we’re done, even if it’s a day later? Or wait until closer to the 25th? And our thoughts should be spoiler tagged, right?

I'm an overthinker!

 

You can post your thought whenever :) . While you’re still reading or when you’re done. Whatever you feel like. 

 

I’d say we can just use our judgement re spoiler tags. I mean there would be no need for spoiler tags for something general like “I love this authors characterisation. I really feel like they get the characters voices” but a big plot detail like “bobby’s death in chapter 9 was so sad” would be better in spoilers? 

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28 minutes ago, gonzosgirrl said:

Is this going to take place here in this thread? Since it's a catch-all for fan fiction, vids, art etc - maybe a new thread for the 'book club' would be appropriate?

I was going to put this in this thread, but if other users would prefer we could look into starting a thread. I’ll ask a mod :) 

 

ETA:

@gonzosgirrl I’ve just posted asking the mods for clarification about whether we should stay in here or move to a new thread. Hopefully they’ll get back to us soon :)

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1 hour ago, Wayward Son said:

I was going to put this in this thread, but if other users would prefer we could look into starting a thread. I’ll ask a mod :) 

 

ETA:

@gonzosgirrl I’ve just posted asking the mods for clarification about whether we should stay in here or move to a new thread. Hopefully they’ll get back to us soon :)

You might be better off pm'ing a mod for clarification or at least that's been my experience. I have a suggestion though if they don't feel we need a separate thread for fanfic suggestions/discussions, those participating could bold and title the the first line of text so that people uninterested would know to skip the post. Something like: Reader Discussion or Reader Group Recommendations.

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56 minutes ago, gonzosgirrl said:

It's not really a duplication, but a thread for a separate purpose. I don't see why it would be a problem to start one. AFAIK we don't need permission to start a thread.

I don't see it being a problem to make a new thread either.  I think it doesn't really matter either way if the discussion is in this thread or another thread.  But that's just me.

3 hours ago, Wayward Son said:

@gonzosgirrl I’ve just posted asking the mods for clarification about whether we should stay in here or move to a new thread. Hopefully they’ll get back to us soon :)

 I'd just make the new thread if that's what you want to do. If they don't care, you won't hear anything. If they do care, they'll tell you. And it's not warning or a violation or anything like that. It took them a couple of weeks to get back to me on the seasonal threads. 

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14 minutes ago, catrox14 said:

I'd just make the new thread if that's what you want to do. If they don't care, you won't hear anything. If they do care, they'll tell you. And it's not warning or a violation or anything like that. It took them a couple of weeks to get back to me on the seasonal threads. 

Since I’ve already posted asking about it I’d rather wait until we get a response. For now I think we should just post in this thread following @trxr4kids suggestion of headlong posts with something like Readers Discussion to allow those uninterested to skip past the post. Then when mods respond we can move if needed :) 

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Just now, Wayward Son said:

Since I’ve already posted asking about it I’d rather wait until we get a response. For now I think we should just post in this thread following @trxr4kids suggestion of headlong posts with something like Readers Discussion to allow those uninterested to skip past the post. Then when mods respond we can move if needed :) 

 I posted a question in mod announcements and they never got back to me. I PM'd them and it took a couple of days. I honestly think you can make a thread if that is what you really want to do.

It's so weird. I peruse Supernatura/Dean Winchester in Twitter and find so many slash fics that are in Twitter threads. Like they write them in the Twitter feed, which amuses me greatly. But it's also really confusing until you figure out what is happening. And it jumps from Dean with random women or his actual pairings to Destiel to Wincest.  Oh SPN fandom. You do amuse me.

I'd still like to see a separate thread, because I have less than no interest in Destiel fics, but I do like seeing the vids, comments, questions posted in this thread, so I'm obliged to click in when I see there is a new post and not having to scroll through multiple discussion posts would be appreciated. Especially when the solution is so simple and doesn't take anything away from the experience for those who would use it. JMO.

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Reader Discussion: 

Chapter 1

"Gabriel saw and he bled onto the cold floor and he lingered in the edges of a DVD. Time, he thought, was such a malleable thing. And he had just enough grace left to play one last trick. One last attempt at justice. One last chance to not die on a hotel floor as pointless as a third thumb and not nearly as funny."

This epitomises what I love about fanfiction, this is something that could never be done on the show but the potential for it was built into the character.

I love how Cas became the angel of thursday here.

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Limp Sam- A hundred-and-one uses for that ubiquitous Limp!Sam the show keeps giving us. Or, y'know, six uses anyway. (Get your minds out of the gutters, ladies! This fic is rated K!) A series of related drabbles. The author's rant - er, note - is the longest thing in here. Pure and unadulterated crack. https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9397611/1/Limp-Sam

Sam Chooses Poorly-For such a smart guy, Sam sure does have a continuing knack for making poor choices, doesn't he? Yes, I'm dogging on The Powers That Be today. Three more drabbles. Again, nothing but crack. https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9397623/1/Sam-Chooses-Poorly

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3 hours ago, trxr4kids said:

Limp Sam- A hundred-and-one uses for that ubiquitous Limp!Sam the show keeps giving us. Or, y'know, six uses anyway. (Get your minds out of the gutters, ladies! This fic is rated K!) A series of related drabbles. The author's rant - er, note - is the longest thing in here. Pure and unadulterated crack. https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9397611/1/Limp-Sam

Okay, the one about using Sam to measure the room was brilliant. Hee!

On ‎3‎/‎17‎/‎2018 at 12:51 PM, Wayward Son said:

Can anyone recommend some good fics? I’m in the mood for reading them. 

 

I tend to like 

- AUs 

- Long Fics - 100k plus but I’m open to shorter too of course. 

- Castiel involvement 

 

I’m not super picky and my only no no is fics that have Cas as the out and out bad guy. 

Family Business. Just finished reading it and really enjoyed every bit of it. It's 159k, the main pairings are Destiel and Sabriel, and even though it's an ensemble I would say it's mostly from Castiel's POV. Castiel and Gabriel are brothers that inherit a haunted estate, and Sam and Dean are the contractors (feat. Bobby and Charlie and others) that renovate the place. The creepy scenes are well done but you kinda get hooked on the rehab of the house as well.

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Reader Discussion:

How (thanks to Gabriel) Dean and Castiel (accidentally) raised each other (and Sam).

@Wayward Son @trxr4kids (and anyone else who wants to join in of course!)

 

Generally speaking:

It's a good fic :) Characters are in character, it does a good job being canon adjacent, and it's also funny/fun at times. I especially like Cas' accidental dry humor which eventually morphs into not-so-accidental dry sarcasm later. I like the idea of "Would the boys still make some of the same decisions if they had a bit more intel about what was coming?" Sometimes yes, sometimes no.

 

More specifics:

I remember trying to read this one in the past and having a hard time getting past the first chapter. It's very "out there" and I was hesitant to keep going. I think what threw me the most was how different "young" Gabriel (understandably) was. I eventually read it, and the rest of the fic is much more standard, though still with a hint of that dreamlike quality of the first chapter, but it was long enough ago that I didn't remember a lot going into this time.

I think Chapter 15: Rock Opera is my least favorite chapter. It's just a little too wacky and weird, though of course it makes sense that it would be. You'd think it would be my favorite considering certain romantic developments, but I like the romantic developments in Chapter 11 better actually. Chapter 18 is my next least favorite, but that's just because I'm not much of a Sabriel fan and there isn't much plot movement I don't think.

Chapter 16: The First Last Year is my favorite. Especially "April" which actually makes me tear up.

I love that the difference of knowing that

Spoiler

Cas was coming for him gave Dean the willpower he needed in this timeline.

The conclusion was interesting. I have a hard time buying that

Spoiler

the angels cast Adam as Lucifer's vessel AND had him be the one to break the first seal

because then I get all mixed up about whether or not that's still consistent with canon (What does it really mean to be a righteous man and how does he qualify? What does it mean that only the righteous man who broke the first seal can "end it"? Is it contradictory for him to be both of those things?).

 

On 3/20/2018 at 2:14 PM, trxr4kids said:

I love how Cas became the angel of thursday here.

You mean the angel of Casday ;)

 

Sidenote: Thank Chuck previouslyTV restores our drafts! I had written most of this, went to a different tab, and when I tried to click back to this tab I accidentally closed it instead. Whew! Crisis averted!

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1 hour ago, takalotti said:

I especially like Cas' accidental dry humor which eventually morphs into not-so-accidental dry sarcasm later.

That was actually my favorite part of this story and why I rec'd it to WS since he's primarily a Cas fan. Cas correcting Sam's history book, telling the principal there were grammatical errors in the anti bullying contract but it was an otherwise nice sentiment and the entire host tuning out Zachariah's apparently lengthy, monotonous and frequent speeches were endlessly amusing to me.

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Reader Discussion 

How (thanks to Gabriel) Dean and Castiel (accidentally) raised each other (and Sam).

@takalotti @trxr4kids (and anyone else who wants to join in) 

 

Chapter 1

- This chapter was rather unique and while Gabriel's voicing feels off I can buy it since it's so far back in the past. I love their take on how Cas became the angel of Sunday and the "of Dean Winchester" twist amused me. 

 

Chapter 2

- Hahahaha Casday! I would totally be up for celebrating Cas day every week!

- I actually didn't know Thursday was named after Thor! I always love it when fanfic teaches me new things :) 

- I'm assuming the kid who saved Jimmy's life was Guck, which was an interesting way to insert him into the fic. I'm not so keen on the whole 'Jimmy was dying' until Castiel possessed him twist. It just makes the whole possession a little too convenient. 

- Kid teen and Cas' first meeting raises mixed thoughts on him. It's a general issue I have with these types of fics. Dean always comes across as a little too trusting even for that age and I feel its a case of making the characters match the plot as even at that age I feel Dean would go to John if a strange Supernatural being entered his life.

 

Chapter 3

I enjoyed this chapter (aside from the issues I mentioned in chapter 2).

- This line "It appeared that being the angel of Dean Winchester, meant that he must also be the angel of Samuel Winchester. Dean would not allow it any other way" is so true in canon and fanon haha. 

 

Chapter 4

- I totally chuckled at Castiel's exasperation when telling the tale of Corduroy to wee Sam. I could totally imagine canon Castiel being confused by the concept of children stories hahaha. 

 

Chapter 6

Aw Castiel appealing to Sam's love of learning by allowing him to learn Enochian. The perfect gift for Sam Cas! :D

 

Chapter 8

- The Sam school arrangement was a pretty neat compromise. I'd be curious to see how a more stable school environment will influence Sam's mindset when the time to go to college comes. Will he try to find a way to commute to Stanford without John knowing instead of leaving the family and completely cutting himself off, as he did in canon? Of course even with the Cas compromise if this Sam still ends up with the same "I want to quit hunting" mindset a confrontation with John will have to occur at some point. Hmmm. 

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