Primal Slayer April 10, 2017 Share April 10, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, wonderwall said: Well Laurel is dead so she wouldn't be in the series... IDK if Black Siren/Sara are sisters in E2 or if Sara even exists in that 'verse... And since they're doing a Batgirl movie I highly, highly doubt they'd let her lead a show. Flash seems to be the only exception here. Siren/Sara are basically like distant sisters. Katie/Caity would KILL being together full time. Depending on the success of Batgirl, WB may let it slide with her being Oracle. Why they continue to think that the audience is to stupid to have 2 versions of the same characters on at the same time still baffles me. But there is also Bruce/Alfred/Gordon. Edited April 10, 2017 by Primal Slayer Link to comment
wonderwall April 10, 2017 Share April 10, 2017 (edited) Well... It still doesn't make sense because BS is a villain. A villain who hasn't really been shown to have a good side unlike Helena (who was more morally grey). Yeah they could try the whole redemption thing but I 100% doubt they will considering they don't seem invested in KC at all... Even the fact that they killed her off in the first place says a lot - and they only brought her back for crumbs... Not only that but they've really crapped on her with every appearance she's had, she's been left behind (and no one was even going to say goodbye to her), given a fugly statue that was then destroyed, she was punched in the face, put in a jail cell, she had to mock LL... Yeah, it's pretty clear that this universe really doesn't care enough to bring her to a new show. And saying Siren/Sara are like distant sisters is also wrong, imo. They're nothing to each other because they don't know each other and saying they are like sisters is actually like saying LL was replaceable which I think is wrong. No woman should be interchangeable like that. That's why how LL got her mask pissed me off. Bruce is basically a kid in Gotham and we know for sure we won't see Bruce become Batman. So I don't think that counts. Edited April 10, 2017 by wonderwall 5 Link to comment
SmallScreenDiva April 10, 2017 Share April 10, 2017 Probably why Stephen said Josh "won" the wrap party. Dang! 12 Link to comment
kismet April 10, 2017 Share April 10, 2017 Unless they cancel LoT I don't want to see Sara going anywhere. Sorry not Sorry. Sara is already the kickass leader of her own cool show. And please don't cancel LoT it's AMAZING!! 1 Link to comment
wonderwall April 10, 2017 Share April 10, 2017 7 minutes ago, kismet said: Unless they cancel LoT I don't want to see Sara going anywhere. Sorry not Sorry. Sara is already the kickass leader of her own cool show. And please don't cancel LoT it's AMAZING!! Oh I don't think they'd move Sara while LoT is running. It's a possibility for after LoT is over. Caity will, I'm sure, love the job opportunity. 1 Link to comment
tv echo April 10, 2017 Share April 10, 2017 (edited) Edited April 10, 2017 by tv echo Link to comment
Mellowyellow April 10, 2017 Share April 10, 2017 Love her hairdo. She’s very pretty in that pic! @tv echo plzzzzzzz try to find a pic of EBR! Pretty please! Link to comment
SmallScreenDiva April 10, 2017 Share April 10, 2017 And Olicity Queen has updated her channel: 8 Link to comment
tv echo April 11, 2017 Share April 11, 2017 (edited) More nonspoilery posts at https://marcguggenheim.tumblr.com/ on April 10... i-will-follow-the-sun asked: Totally hypothetically speaking, but if Felicity and Oliver get married, will Felicity get a new (and better fitted) dress? I thought she looked great in that dress! i-will-follow-the-sun asked: Will Diggle ever get a job? Because it seems like he is either unemployed or Oliver's bodyguard and I think a man with Diggle's qualities deserves more than that. Did Lyla put you up to asking this question? cometdefyinggravity asked: Hi Marc! If I'm not wrong, there was a scene between Laurel and Thea in Arrow's 100th episode but it didn't make the final cut. Can you please tell us what it was about or post the script page(s)? I need to check, but I don’t think there was. ya-boy-ben10 asked: I love this season and I also love 3 & 4! You did amazing job for all 5 seasons! It sad that people try to write off those two seasons but I just wanna let you know I love all and hope you don't give up on any storylines because of any haters :) Can't wait for the final 5 episodes it sound like it be pretty epic! Thanks so much! Truth be told, I get a lot of love for Season 3 and even some love for Season 4. Every season is different by design and, therefore, everyone’s mileage can and will vary. favnerdguy asked: What is the process for hiring writers for Arrow? Or is that a question for someone else (who is that someone else?) Agents and managers find out what levels, if any, we’re looking for and then they submit writing samples. If we like them, we meet the writers in question and go from there. she-ran-away-in-her-sleep asked: Hi Marc! Just wondering, is there any reason why all of the people who have "come between" olicity recently have connections to the name William (i.e. Oliver's son / Susan Williams / Billy is often a nickname for William) or is all just total coincidences? Either way, I think it's pretty funny! Thanks! x Wow. That’s awesome. It’s a total – but completely amazing – coincidence. Susan is named after a comic book character. Billy is named after a friend of mine. But you seriously just blew my mind. I wish we were this clever. Can’t wait to tell the Arrow writers tomorrow. mylifemychoice88 asked: So you say female characters don't have downtime, yet you wasted half an episode to show the new bird looking for an apartment ? Are you kidding? If this is your idea of "other stories to tell" It . Doesn't . Work. All the newbies, but especially HER are characters most of us really couldn't care less about. She needs to go ASAP. HALF an episode? Really? itswriterjack asked: Just saying: if this season ends DALLAS-style with Oliver waking up, finding Laurel and saying "I just had the most terrible dream that you died," then I'd totally suspend my logic for it :P Duly noted. fight--for--now asked: You know what I love? That Felicity and Oliver were and always are partners, equals. Thank you for that, relationships on tv shows often make the female character lose herself when in relationships. Thank you! Edited April 11, 2017 by tv echo Link to comment
kismet April 11, 2017 Share April 11, 2017 Quote she-ran-away-in-her-sleep asked: Hi Marc! Just wondering, is there any reason why all of the people who have "come between" olicity recently have connections to the name William (i.e. Oliver's son / Susan Williams / Billy is often a nickname for William) or is all just total coincidences? Either way, I think it's pretty funny! Thanks! x Wow. That’s awesome. It’s a total – but completely amazing – coincidence. Susan is named after a comic book character. Billy is named after a friend of mine. But you seriously just blew my mind. I wish we were this clever. Can’t wait to tell the Arrow writers tomorrow. Yeah, I totally missed that. Wow, that is weird coincidence. I totally buy that the writers are not that clever. 6 Link to comment
leopardprint April 11, 2017 Share April 11, 2017 (edited) If the writers have yet to notice that, well that actually explains a lot. It's not like it's their job to keep track of details or anything... Edited April 11, 2017 by leopardprint 6 Link to comment
Mellowyellow April 12, 2017 Share April 12, 2017 He must be really bored these days! Still I think this is better than the ban on talking about Olicity in 5A. 5 Link to comment
Soulfire April 12, 2017 Share April 12, 2017 (edited) Arrow | Behind the Visual Effects | The CW Edited April 12, 2017 by Soulfire 3 Link to comment
tv echo April 12, 2017 Share April 12, 2017 (edited) More nonspoilery posts at https://marcguggenheim.tumblr.com/ on Apr. 11... alanna-the-lionheart asked: Last week you mentioned that you were waiting to release the sizzle reel for the last five episodes because there was a scene you hadn't filmed yet that you wanted to include in it. Once the sizzle reel comes out, will you tell us which scene it was? Happy to. kristen2245 asked: I know you keep getting asked about the sizzle reel, but I was just wondering if we will get it before the next episode airs? PS. You are doing an amazing job!! Yes, we’ll absolutely get it out before the next episode airs. beemichelle7 asked: Any chance of seeing comic previews return for these last five episodes of S5? ?? Not up to me, unfortunately. speechgirl22 asked: Hey Marc! First off, I just wanted to say that Arrow season 5 is AMAZING and Legends of Tomorrow is becoming another one of my TV obsessions. My question is, how much influence do you have on trailers (during Comic Con and after each episode) and sizzle reels? Do you all get to influence the marketing of your shows? Just really curious about the industry! Thanks! Generally speaking, we cut the trailer-like sizzle reels you see at ComicCon and periodically throughout the season. The promos after each episode are created by the talented folks at the CW. Same with marketing – those guys are the best in the biz. grainandwhimsy asked: Can I be a fan of Olicity and *gasp* Laurel Lance too?! Because I've never understood how one affects the other. Neither have I! always-have-paris-xo asked: Marcus let's talk about how Billy Joel is also waiting for Oliver to tell Felicity about the 3x14 flashback and he's getting impatient. Let's get It happening asap Does Billy watch the show? ota-olicity asked: Genuine question: why do you seem to value the opinion of a few basement trolls who attack you over a fictional female character and/or fictional couple over real fans of the show who sent support and raise valid concerns or questions? If unintentional, that's what it seems like to many fans of the show who also see what you say and who is valued. PS many of us loved seasons three and 4a (until the nonsensical lie from Oliver and forced breaking up of Olicity). Hope for more OTA next season! I think your repeated use of the word “seem” provides a better answer/explanation than I ever could. :) prettylittleliarrow asked: i know you are only messing with us (right now) when you talk about olicity getting married, but that was one of their main plot points all of last season, so it's not a stretch for us to being wanting that.. just saying :) When did I talk about them getting married? emmadawn94 asked: Will the Olicity baby have Oliver's eyes or Felicity's eyes ? I’m not a medical professional, but I’m pretty sure that any baby has their own eyes. Edited April 12, 2017 by tv echo Link to comment
ohjoy April 12, 2017 Share April 12, 2017 30 minutes ago, tv echo said: The promos after each episode are created by the talented folks at the CW. Same with marketing – those guys are the best in the biz. *snerk* 8 Link to comment
kismet April 12, 2017 Share April 12, 2017 Quote Generally speaking, we cut the trailer-like sizzle reels you see at ComicCon and periodically throughout the season. The promos after each episode are created by the talented folks at the CW. Same with marketing – those guys are the best in the biz. HaHa.... I seriously can't tell if he is being genuine or snarky. Because I'm sensing a lot of snark in how he answered that question. Also, what's we people calling him Marcus?? Has he started calling himself that, or is that just fans being snarky? 1 Link to comment
Belinea April 12, 2017 Share April 12, 2017 (edited) For some reason it doesn't show the whole convo. Only by clicking on the tweet. These guys want people to dislike them, right? Edited April 12, 2017 by Belinea Link to comment
Soulfire April 12, 2017 Share April 12, 2017 May be the wrong thread to post it in, but -- 4 Link to comment
bethy April 12, 2017 Share April 12, 2017 (edited) Whoops. Nevermind. Edited April 12, 2017 by bethy Link to comment
Morrigan2575 April 12, 2017 Share April 12, 2017 (edited) It's a KC fan complaining to CG because he took a bunch of Flash set photos but nothing for KC. Edited April 12, 2017 by Morrigan2575 1 Link to comment
bethy April 12, 2017 Share April 12, 2017 (edited) 1 minute ago, Morrigan2575 said: It's a KC fan complaining to CG because he took a bunch of Flash set photos but nothing for KC. Got it. Thanks. It occurred to me just as I hit submit that it wasn't actually KC. Edited April 12, 2017 by bethy Link to comment
kismet April 12, 2017 Share April 12, 2017 Paps are talented, but they can't get photos of events that don't exist. That's for tabloids to create. :) Link to comment
LeighAn April 12, 2017 Share April 12, 2017 (edited) Edited :) Edited April 12, 2017 by LeighAn Link to comment
Soulfire April 12, 2017 Share April 12, 2017 The tweet is referring to screen times for Season 3... 1 Link to comment
Midnight Lullaby April 12, 2017 Share April 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, LeighAn said: I don't understand this tweet or what kind of statement she's trying to make. Like I get her being angry Im not happy there wasn't more Olicity scenes but is it really surprising that they only took up 7% of screen time- so far- when they haven't actually been together this season and have intentionally been written to be travelling seperate paths in admittedly a convuluted way to reunite them. Not to mention Hide contents 5x19 will be heavily Olicity focused, 5x20 will be at least 20 minutes of Olicity scenes, we've been told 5x22 is a continuation or plays into what happens between Olicity in 5x20 and there are likely to be scenes between Olicity in 21 and 23 as well. She is talking about season 3..people always say there was too much Olicity in S3 and it ruined it and she is pointing out how little screen time it took. 7 Link to comment
Carrie Ann April 12, 2017 Share April 12, 2017 (edited) Never mind! ? Edited April 12, 2017 by Carrie Ann Link to comment
LeighAn April 12, 2017 Share April 12, 2017 Oh I thought she was talking about season 5 my bad. Link to comment
leopardprint April 12, 2017 Share April 12, 2017 (edited) nvm. Edited April 12, 2017 by leopardprint Link to comment
LeighAn April 12, 2017 Share April 12, 2017 Yeah I just read that Olicity took up 7% screen time and didn't see the season 3 part and assume she was talking about season 5. I edited my post all good. Link to comment
Primal Slayer April 13, 2017 Share April 13, 2017 Juliana got her first "big" interview Nothing really spoilery, looks like it took place shortly after KC was announced to come back. TVLINE | Did they tell you that your character ultimately would be inheriting the mantle of Black Canary? Which is kind of a big deal. After I booked it, they sort of told me everything that the role entailed. I had no idea that it was this big or this iconic or this epic, so it was very exciting when I found out. I had no idea going in. TVLINE | Now a couple of months into your run, how would you describe Dinah’s relationship with Oliver, with Diggle? I think that these are the people she’s allowed herself to get closest to in a very long time. This is the first group that she’s allowed herself to be vulnerable with. Oliver was the one who sought her out and let her in, so her connection to him in particular is a special one. She has a particular fondness for Oliver — not in a romantic way, but as a partner. And with Diggle, he’s the second in command, and that appeals to Dinah. She likes to sort of team up and go on runs with him. He’s a competent fighter and so is she. TVLINE | Burning question: On set, are you actually screaming when doing the Canary Cry, or just popping open your mouth? That’s a good question. In the shot that you’re talking about (right), I was definitely just mouthing it. A silent scream. But when we’re fighting and it already has that energy behind it, I will scream. You have to pick and choose your screams so you don’t blow your voice out. TVLINE | I think it was Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.‘s Chloe Bennet who said that it’s almost ridiculous to watch the filming of such scenes without the effects, where Daisy is just jutting her open palm at someone, looking angry. It is! But one cool thing that they do on set is “blow people back.” So, nothing will come out of my mouth, but they’ll launch these dudes back like 15, 20 feet, which is really exciting. It does sort of feel like your really doing it in the moment. TVLINE | Can we talk about the impracticality of Dinah’s wallet chain? I know it makes her look tough, but in close-quarters combat I’m just grabbing that and yanking her around. [Laughs] You know, at a certain point it just gets annoying when you’re fighting dudes all day and you keep losing your wallet, misplacing your license. She’s over it. She’s a very practical, smart girl. TVLINE | Katie Cassidy of course is due back by season’s end, and will be a regular for Season 6. Safe to say we’re fated for a Black Canary/Black Siren face-off at some point? I actually don’t know if a face-off is in store, but that would be epic! Link to comment
Guest April 13, 2017 Share April 13, 2017 4 hours ago, Soulfire said: May be the wrong thread to post it in, but -- I love facts. Though I'm sure certain fans won't believe them, even with proof. LOL. Link to comment
kismet April 13, 2017 Share April 13, 2017 Epic.... One of my least favorite adjectives TPTB and actors throw around loosely. Somethings are epic, some things are just not. And we've already seen two canaries fight, I can't imagine the remix being that much better or worse than the original. But I can definitely assure anyone it will probably not be epic. 1 Link to comment
Belinea April 13, 2017 Share April 13, 2017 6 minutes ago, kismet said: Epic.... One of my least favorite adjectives TPTB and actors throw around loosely. Maybe they all have to attend MG's seminar on " how to accurately describe our episodes - 1. Lesson: epic; 2. Lesson: game-changer; Please bring your own pen and paper. " 8 Link to comment
lemotomato April 13, 2017 Share April 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Angel12d said: I love facts. Though I'm sure certain fans won't believe them, even with proof. LOL. Those certain fans who claim that season 5 is getting the best ratings ever, and when challenged to show proof, pull up IMDB user ratings? Yeah, I'm pretty sure facts won't convince them. Link to comment
kismet April 13, 2017 Share April 13, 2017 President John Adams once said, "Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." I used to believe that, however facts are not what they used to be in this modern era. It seems facts and truths have gone by the wayside. I agree that I don't think facts will convince portions of the audience that want to believe what they want to believe. 2 Link to comment
lemotomato April 13, 2017 Share April 13, 2017 Announcement about series regulars for next season? 1 Link to comment
LeighAn April 13, 2017 Share April 13, 2017 So what's your pick: A. Juliana is a regular B. Rene is a regular C. Both Juliana and Rene are regulars D. Someone coming back/appearing in for season 6 E. Casting news for the next season big bad Link to comment
bijoux April 13, 2017 Share April 13, 2017 I don't think it's that last one. It would make more sense to me to announce it closer to the start of the next season. Unless they're moving an existing character into that role, like Dolph Lundgren or David Nykl. I hope neither happens, because despite DL's fans, I'm not one of them, and as much as I love DN I don't want Oliver to look down the proverbial barrel at another former friend and ally. 1 Link to comment
Midnight Lullaby April 13, 2017 Share April 13, 2017 I think they are making those two regulars as well..if it wasn't them we were going to have new masks next year, they are interchangeable, so it makes little difference to me. Maybe I'll learn wild puppy's name at some point. I think an interesting question to ask JH would have been why they haven't officially called her the BC on the show yet and when it's happening instead of assuming she is because she is Dinah Drake. I thought it was going to happen when she got the mask but it's been a while and I find it a bit weird. Link to comment
looptab April 13, 2017 Share April 13, 2017 5 minutes ago, Midnight Lullaby said: I think an interesting question to ask JH would have been why they haven't officially called her the BC on the show yet and when it's happening instead of assuming she is because she is Dinah Drake. I thought it was going to happen when she got the mask but it's been a while and I find it a bit weird. It looks like they're taking the earlier masks' approach with her - like, Roy, he got the mask in the S2 finale and didn't get called Arsenal until 307 I think. Or Oliver himself who took 4 years to take the official name. Unlike Laurel who got mask and name in the span of 5 episodes, or the newbies who got the name as soon as they joined. 2 Link to comment
kismet April 13, 2017 Share April 13, 2017 (edited) Couldn't it just be the sizzle reel? I don't want to keep any of the new ones (including Curtis). The old ones I want back are dead & not likely to be resurrected. The old one returning is not one I want back. Doubt it's that he or another showrunner is leaving, he's too chipper - so can't even get excited about that. And frankly if its announcing a reduction or removal of Dig, TQ or QL - I just don't want to hear it yet or ever. The other regulars I'm comfortable with keeping and are in no jeopardy of leaving - so I don't need an announcement for them. Edited April 13, 2017 by kismet Link to comment
Midnight Lullaby April 13, 2017 Share April 13, 2017 7 minutes ago, looptab said: It looks like they're taking the earlier masks' approach with her - like, Roy, he got the mask in the S2 finale and didn't get called Arsenal until 307 I think. Or Oliver himself who took 4 years to take the official name. Unlike Laurel who got mask and name in the span of 5 episodes, or the newbies who got the name as soon as they joined. Actually I think they are treating her exactly like the rest of the newbies and nothing like the earlier masks..that's why I find not calling her the BC a bit weird. They introduced her and put her on the team in one episode..like the newbies there was no arc to make her into a hero. Roy was introduced as a person first, then he gradually got a role in the team and earned his place so in that instance I get waiting to give him a mask and then waiting to give him a code name. She is already the BC in all but name. There's no journey for her to take to become an official member of the team, or to get the mask, or to get the Canary cry. It just seems weird to me to not use the name since the character is already fully developed. 22 minutes ago, kismet said: Couldn't it just be the sizzle reel? 1 Link to comment
kismet April 13, 2017 Share April 13, 2017 But that's not really the wink emoji. It's the crazy stuck out tongue wink. I think its MG being tricksy. I'm gonna anticipate the sizzle reel. Casting is not interesting for him to get all excited over now, unless it's someone big, but why now? Any big guest would be a finale player and he said it's not about the finale. Link to comment
Midnight Lullaby April 13, 2017 Share April 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, kismet said: But that's not really the wink emoji. It's the crazy stuck out tongue wink. I think its MG being tricksy. I'm gonna anticipate the sizzle reel. Casting is not interesting for him to get all excited over now, unless it's someone big, but why now? Any big guest would be a finale player and he said it's not about the finale. But it's still a wink, LOL. I posted it because I didn't know if you saw his reply but who knows. I think they announced Echo as a regular last year around this time so that's why I think most people are thinking about that.. 1 Link to comment
kismet April 13, 2017 Share April 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, Midnight Lullaby said: But it's still a wink, LOL. I posted it because I didn't know if you saw his reply but who knows. I think they announced Echo as a regular last year around this time so that's why I think most people are thinking about that.. Well, I guess we'll see. Link to comment
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