apinknightmare October 9, 2016 Share October 9, 2016 Didn't Bamford post that comment months ago? Link to comment
bijoux October 9, 2016 Share October 9, 2016 The tweet with the screencap is from two months ago. Link to comment
wonderwall October 9, 2016 Share October 9, 2016 I know. I just found it lol and it still makes me bitter :p Link to comment
Guest October 9, 2016 Share October 9, 2016 I think it was from when they were filming 501/502. Says more about Bamford for responding to that kind of tweet than it does about the show, IMO. Link to comment
Browser26 October 10, 2016 Share October 10, 2016 (edited) Stephen's Twitter mentioned our Toronto Blue Jay win "That's with the Rangers deserved" as any Blue Jay fan would know the history between the Texas Rangers and the Blue Jays. Jensen Ackles of Supernatural responded via Twitter with "Didn't you marry a Texan" #classy and Stephen responded "She's from Houston. Also, you look wonderfully handsome in that profile pic" I love my CW boys. Don't you start bickering. Both your fandoms scare me. I'm typing this in on my phone but the links are easy to find and it seems that it is on both their verified account. Edited October 10, 2016 by Browser26 7 Link to comment
SmallScreenDiva October 10, 2016 Share October 10, 2016 Someone posted this on Tumblr; it's a very short video of Emily, Melissa and Ray greeting her: "So my auntie works on The Flash on the costume truck and this past week on the Monday it was my birthday this was filmed on Tuesday where they’re filming the huge crossover between the four shows. So for my birthday she got me videos of the cast saying happy birthday. So here are my tears!" 4 Link to comment
catrox14 October 11, 2016 Share October 11, 2016 9 hours ago, Browser26 said: Stephen's Twitter mentioned our Toronto Blue Jay win "That's with the Rangers deserved" as any Blue Jay fan would know the history between the Texas Rangers and the Blue Jays. Jensen Ackles of Supernatural responded via Twitter with "Didn't you marry a Texan" #classy and Stephen responded "She's from Houston. Also, you look wonderfully handsome in that profile pic" I love my CW boys. Don't you start bickering. Both your fandoms scare me. I'm typing this in on my phone but the links are easy to find and it seems that it is on both their verified account. Those guys are all friends. The best thing about that is that Jensen doesn't follow Stephen on Twitter, so to my mind the only reason Jensen saw is that Jared showed it to him. wouldn't worry one whit about it blowing up into some fandom wars. Besides, Supernatural fans would rather spend their time fighting with each other than Arrow fans. LOL (I'm a fan of both shows FTR). 5 Link to comment
tv echo October 11, 2016 Share October 11, 2016 MG was back posting responses to tumblr questions yesterday at http://marcguggenheim.tumblr.com/ - here are some of his nonspoilery posts (I didn't post every one)... Quote mymusiclove101 asked: I'm a bit confused. Ray signed over his shares of the company over to Felicity. So she OWNS most of the company. So how can they just fully kick her out of a company she owns?? Palmer Tech is a publicly-traded company. Felicity owns the STOCK, not the company itself. Make sense? Quote gehendj asked: Arrow has been rather polarizing for the fanbase during S4, and with it there has been a lot of bullying on both sides of the fence. With that bullying extending beyond the fandom and resulting in personal attacks against the cast, crew, and even the writer of the Green Arrow comic, why has Team Arrow been silent on the issue? Why have you not come out against this kind of behavior? The only person who did - Katie Cassidy - was unceremoniously booted off the show. Seems like a pro-bullying bias. Maybe we’re too busy getting bullied ourselves? Quote miihwinchester asked: Why do you hate Laurel Lance so much? To be honest, I didn’t start out hating her, but then so many people told me that I did, that I wanted to prove them right. (Kidding.) Quote miihwinchester asked: Hi Marc, first congratulations on the season 5 premiere. I literally cannot believe that this show is now on it's fifth year. Wow. So, my question is: why do you hate Dinah Lance so much? Thank you so much. And I don’t. Quote lavarosva asked: I have to ask Mr. Guggenheim, do you ever read the r/Arrow or r/CWArrow Subreddits? No – but only because I can’t fathom Reddit. I mean, I don’t understand how to navigate it. The UI is a mess. Quote noahgallant420 asked: Will the main villain, maybe not this season but ever be female? We’ve totally talked about it. Quote smoakandarrow asked: Hey Marc! Been watching your Twitter flooded w/abusive language, threats, petitions to be fired, etc., I can only shake my head. It's exhausting, I know, & while NO section of this (or any) fandom is "all saints," I do hope that you've gained a better perspective, perhaps, for what Felicity & Olicity fans deal w/every day going on 4 years now. Again, I'm not claiming we're saints, but that daily level of abuse, harassment & stalking literally EXHAUSTS you. Hope things calm down for you guys soon Thank you. I admit that I’ve had to take a breather from reading a lot of what’s being said on the Internet. The posts themselves don’t bother me – I view the petition to have me fired as a petition to get me a vacation – but I am disillusioned by the number of angry people out there who want to vent their spleens at a television show when children are hungry, too many people live in poverty, our climate is changing for the worse, gun violence is claiming innocent lives, women are being sexually assaulted… I could go on and on. Seriously, if we could just redirect one-tenth of the Internet’s passions towards issues that matter, the world would be a much better place. (I’ll settle for one-fifth.) Quote felictiyqueens asked: Did nothing but loved and supported Arrow for all these years and yet all I've got in return is being ignored and forced to watch you cater to the haters and bullies. It seems like everyone is afraid to even mention Olicity these days. I (and many other fans) get threatened by death and rape almost every time I write something nice about Arrow on any social media platform. Unless I hear something POSITIVE about ROMANTIC Olicity relationship,I'm out. It's just not worth it. Sorry if this is rude. It’s not rude at all. And I appreciate your feelings. That said, I will never understand why anyone thinks we’re catering to anyone. We killed Laurel. We gave Felicity a boyfriend. I think we’ve shown that we’re just trying to tell our own story and not catering to any particular group of fandom. Believe me, if “catering” was our goal, we’d do a much better job – even if we’re as incompetent as some people say. Quote hotsforlaurel asked: DON'T BRING BACK OLICITY. FUCKING CHRIST. WORST PART OF THE SHOW. KILL FELICITY AND HER ANNOYNING MOM. Does your screen name suggest a certain bias here? Genuinely curious. Quote hotsforlaurel asked: I fail to comprehend after the god awful s4, how you and wendy are still showrunners. I don’t know what’s so difficult to understand. We have incriminating photographs on all the decision makers who could fire us. Oh, and it probably didn’t hurt that the ratings for Season 4 were great. So maybe not everyone shares your opinion of Season 4? Link to comment
tv echo October 11, 2016 Share October 11, 2016 Quote pelmlm-deactivated20161011 asked: Pt 1 Pls Do Not Answer-- Just FYI The same person who wrote an open ltr to you months ago, is writng one to GeoffJohns complaining of your handling of GreenArrow and also the OlicityFndm. I guess the hope is to encourage GJ to "save" the GA franchise by removing you, writers, O Fndm? -- I don't F ing kno. Anyway a heads up. You can read ltr on the arrow reddit. My personal take is that theyre somewhat delusional and take themselves VERY seriously. Also, they really piss me off. Thank you. I appreciate that. I’m sure Geoff and a whole mess of other people have lobbied to remove me from the show. I think they overestimate their influence. Quote ipikaboo asked: Can't wait for you to come back! I know all the negativity is frustrating but never forget your show has the second best ratings of the network even after 4 seasons. You are awesome. Thank you so much. I really appreciate it. One metric that really blew me away is that out of ALL the returning network shows last year, only Arrow and Law & Order: Special Victims Unit didn’t see declines in their ratings from the previous season. I feel that’s remarkable. Quote reamingofolicityrealized asked: Why isn't Emily Bett Rickards allowed to do her own stunts anymore? We haven’t changed our policy on stunts with regard to any castmembers. The decision is always made on a stunt by stunt basis and always based only on the question of whether the stunt coordinator believes the gag to be safe for an actor to perform. Stunts are important to Arrow, obviously, but the safety of our cast is far more important. Quote therearetwomanycats-deactivated asked: So even when your own actors express how upset they are about Laurel's death, you tell them to get over it? I thought we were supposed to care about these characters. Isn't Laurel's death supposedly just "so important" and "it'll all make sense why we did it!" Then why should anyone, fan or actor, be "over it"? Has it occurred to you that when a castmember expresses their disappointment with the death of a fellow castmember’s character, they’re not weighing in creatively but rather expressing how sad they are that they won’t be working with that person on a regular basis. Quote nerdramblings101 asked: I'm just curious sir. Was it your idea to bring Katie Cassidy back with her new deal or was it someone else's? I'm sure you won't answer but I still wanted to ask. I can’t really comment without getting into the particulars of Katie’s deal and her representation. Quote super-zinie-me asked: Hi Marc, not spoilers just a really quick question. How much episode are you filming before the season premiere ? And congratulations for the season 5 and probably 6, and 7 and 8 and 9.... Take care. I hope you find a way and a peaceful time to come back on trumblr soon. Many of us were really happy when you were answered questions last year. Hugs from France. We were filming Episode 508 when we premiered last week. By that point, we’d already written Ep. 510. (Just to give you a sense of how far ahead we are writing.) Quote smoakandarrow asked: Hey Marc! THANK YOU!!!!! I just read your CinemaBlend quote re Why CW doesn't have to follow comics & how your fav type of fans are those who are not comic book fans (because reader #s wouldn't keep shows on the air). Thank you, thank you, thank you! I've been saying this for 4 years now, & I know how exhausted non-comic book reading viewers are over constantly being attacked, told they don't count as "fans," etc. Mad props to you, Marc. Gold star! Did I say thank you yet? Have a great day. Thank you so much. Quote therearetwomanycats-deactivated asked: If you don't think comic fans matter as much as non-comic fans, why are you writing a comic book-based show? Aren't the shows/films that are comic-book accurate, or at least honor the comics and the iconic versions of their characters, more successful and beloved? Even among non-comic fans? Deadpool, even, was relatively accurate and was hugely successful in spite of it being an R-rated film. Even Supergirl and Flash pull story-lines straight from the page. I don’t think that comic fans matter less than non-comic fans. What I’ve said in the past is that a hit comic sells 80,000 copies. 80,000 viewers means you’re canceled immediately. In other words, a TV show – or for that matter, a film – needs to reach beyond comic book fans in order to survive. That’s just simple math. Quote splitsunshine asked: Marc how come Oliver never apologized to Felicity for lying to her? For not trusting her even when half of Star City knew? We all know that telling Felicity wouldn't have put his child in danger in any way whatsoever. It's not like she's a serial killer so Oliver telling himself that he was keeping his kid safe by not telling her was him lying to himself. He was scared to lose her and that's the real reason he lied and thus lost her. Why hasn't he recognized this and said he's sorry? Great question. I think he feels that he apologized in his way, though you’re right, he never said the actual words “I’m sorry.” Quote stormssanctuary asked: I don't suppose that Flashpoint will fix anything in regards to Nyssa. Her fighting, and say the marriage to Oliver? Its canon that Nyssa cannot beat Oliver or Merlyn, It was also canon that Anarchy beat Oliver, but you guys clearly fixed that in the Sneak peek. So why can't Nyssa's fighting be adjusted as well? I know I’ll get into trouble for saying this, but comic book canon is not canon for the show. I await the hate replies with interest. Actually, that’s not true. I really don’t care about the replies. Link to comment
Belinea October 11, 2016 Share October 11, 2016 (edited) I have to say that I even though I feel angry or disappointed at times, I'd never yell at a stranger (which he is) How entitled do you have to be to yell your wishes at him. I also wonder how he picks those questions? The dumbest and rudest first? I mean you can ask a question and let him know what you think without being a total a**hole. He isn't the nicest as well at times and likes to toy with people but I assume if people talked to me like that I'd probably not even answer. Edited October 11, 2016 by Belinea 4 Link to comment
Starfish35 October 11, 2016 Share October 11, 2016 Quote I'm just curious sir. Was it your idea to bring Katie Cassidy back with her new deal or was it someone else's? I'm sure you won't answer but I still wanted to ask. I can’t really comment without getting into the particulars of Katie’s deal and her representation. That's an odd answer. 4 Link to comment
Guest October 11, 2016 Share October 11, 2016 Some of those questions are embarrassing. Yeeesh. Link to comment
Sakura12 October 11, 2016 Share October 11, 2016 That answer to the KC question is odd. Does she really have that much pull at the CW? If that's the case, I don't know why she doesn't try to get a show where's she's the lead. Instead of keep trying to be relevant on show that doesn't care about her character. 2 Link to comment
Chaser October 11, 2016 Share October 11, 2016 I take it as "No. Her representation made a deal with the network and here we are." She has rockstar lawyers/managers. I have a baseless theory that they wanted to use her image and went to negotiate and her guys got an appearance deal. Probably getting the idea from JB and WM's deals. 8 Link to comment
looptab October 11, 2016 Share October 11, 2016 The answers about why does he hate KC and the one where he says he has incriminating images on the higher-ups made me crack-up, haha. 2 Link to comment
SmallScreenDiva October 11, 2016 Share October 11, 2016 8 minutes ago, Starfish35 said: That's an odd answer. Why mention representation at all? Because I'm reading that as KC's management, as in reps. I suspected they were able to kill her off last season because of a deal for this season and maybe beyond. Link to comment
Belinea October 11, 2016 Share October 11, 2016 Maybe her original contract cannot be dissolved until a certain point because she has a contract with the WB and not necessarily just for the show. Therefore they can let her go but still have to use her because the WB contract requires it. Ultimately, I have no idea but I doubt she does it for free and out of the kindness of her heart. 1 Link to comment
looptab October 11, 2016 Share October 11, 2016 I want a freaking BTS tell-all. Who's the Naya Rivera of this cast? 8 Link to comment
wonderwall October 11, 2016 Share October 11, 2016 1 minute ago, looptab said: I want a freaking BTS tell-all. Who's the Naya Rivera of this cast? David Ramsey LMAO 18 Link to comment
Midnight Lullaby October 11, 2016 Share October 11, 2016 Instead I always get the feeling JB is dying to share all the gossips, LOL. 2 Link to comment
looptab October 11, 2016 Share October 11, 2016 Eh, JB isn't on-set enough to know ALL.THE.STUFF. lol David, don't disappoint me!!!+ Link to comment
wonderwall October 11, 2016 Share October 11, 2016 26 minutes ago, looptab said: Eh, JB isn't on-set enough to know ALL.THE.STUFF. lol David, don't disappoint me!!!+ If he can joke about KCs face never moving or having any emotions... he can write a tell all :p 1 Link to comment
looptab October 11, 2016 Share October 11, 2016 I'm really happy he actually got second billing, by the way. Wasn't Willa the one coming after KC in previous seasons' credits? Link to comment
Chasity October 11, 2016 Share October 11, 2016 I feel like David would only give away the KC stuff. If we want info on the rest of the cast, Katie seems like she would give it all away. Link to comment
romantic idiot October 11, 2016 Share October 11, 2016 Seriously, if we could just redirect one-tenth of the Internet’s passions towards issues that matter, the world would be a much better place. (I’ll settle for one-fifth.) This explains so much about the science on this show. Unless he was making fun of the fans' math skills. 16 Link to comment
NumberCruncher October 11, 2016 Share October 11, 2016 Just now, romantic idiot said: This explains so much about the science on this show. Unless he was making fun of the fans' math skills. I'm glad I'm not the only one who started cackling at MG's lack of math skills. Then again, he doesn't get the business/law stuff right either. 5 Link to comment
Kymmi October 11, 2016 Share October 11, 2016 As interesting as the BTS bits are, I would really rather MG either ignored the rude questions/attacks or just didn't post at all. I hide out here because I don't like the tone of other forums like reddit and IMDB, and while I am sometimes tempted to cross the line - or was at the height of my Laurel hate - the mods keep things in check. 4 Link to comment
Carrie Ann October 11, 2016 Share October 11, 2016 6 minutes ago, romantic idiot said: This explains so much about the science on this show. Unless he was making fun of the fans' math skills. Oh my God. I skimmed most of his responses because usually the questions and/or answers annoy/embarrass me, so I totally missed this. Hilarious. 1 Link to comment
apinknightmare October 11, 2016 Share October 11, 2016 Imagine him and SA at a restaurant somewhere trying to figure out the tip. 18 Link to comment
doesntworkonwood October 11, 2016 Share October 11, 2016 32 minutes ago, Chasity said: I feel like David would only give away the KC stuff. If we want info on the rest of the cast, Katie seems like she would give it all away. I don't like her... But I would actually pay to read a tell-all book by her. I think JB is one of the least likely to tell all after the end of Arrow. I know that he likes to tell his funny BTS stories, but he is very professional. I'm pretty sure I've never heard him say anything negative about his previous cast mates. He seems to know the business quite well. 3 hours ago, tv echo said: Great question. I think he feels that he apologized in his way, though you’re right, he never said the actual words “I’m sorry.” 'He's apologised in his own way.' WTF does that mean. I swear these writers have no understanding of how actual conversations work. 14 Link to comment
SmallScreenDiva October 11, 2016 Share October 11, 2016 2 minutes ago, apinknightmare said: Imagine him and SA at a restaurant somewhere trying to figure out the tip. LMFAO! Link to comment
RussianRoulette October 11, 2016 Share October 11, 2016 5 minutes ago, apinknightmare said: Imagine him and SA at a restaurant somewhere trying to figure out the tip. Hahahaha! This is amazing! Link to comment
romantic idiot October 11, 2016 Share October 11, 2016 If JB's managed to be quiet about the thing that ate Torchwood, I think he'll manage to keep mum here too. 1 Link to comment
bethy October 11, 2016 Share October 11, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, doesntworkonwood said: 'He's apologised in his own way.' WTF does that mean. I swear these writers have no understanding of how actual conversations work. Seriously. People in relationships - romantic or otherwise (Supernatural) - use the words "I'm sorry" when they're apologzing Gah. Edited October 11, 2016 by bethy Because the Arrow writers are not alone in not understanding how conversations and relationships work 1 Link to comment
Guest October 11, 2016 Share October 11, 2016 1 hour ago, doesntworkonwood said: 'He's apologised in his own way.' WTF does that mean. I swear these writers have no understanding of how actual conversations work. LOL. Oliver actually said the words "I'm sorry" to Alex and I'm pretty sure he said it to Diggle too. Literally everyone but Felicity, the woman he was going to marry. But sure, he said it in "his own way." LOL. Idiots! All of them! Link to comment
Guest October 11, 2016 Share October 11, 2016 (edited) Cute pic! Guess the only one he didn't want to take a solo pic with was EBR. Hmm. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Edited October 11, 2016 by Guest Link to comment
looptab October 11, 2016 Share October 11, 2016 That pic is super cute, but boy is he the king of Passive-Aggressive Land. 4 minutes ago, Angel12d said: Cute pic. Guess the only one he didn't want to take a solo pic with was EBR. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Eh, apparently. Maybe they hate each other, haha. 4 Link to comment
Guest October 11, 2016 Share October 11, 2016 13 minutes ago, looptab said: That pic is super cute, but boy is he the king of Passive-Aggressive Land. Eh, apparently. Maybe they hate each other, haha. Oh yeah. SO much hatred between those two. ;P This pic is the equivalent of his "So there." Haha. Link to comment
Chaser October 11, 2016 Share October 11, 2016 That's hilarious. The entire thing. Way to draw attention. Link to comment
Starfish35 October 11, 2016 Share October 11, 2016 41 minutes ago, looptab said: That pic is super cute, but boy is he the king of Passive-Aggressive Land. 26 minutes ago, Angel12d said: This pic is the equivalent of his "So there." Haha. I think I must have missed something. *confused* 6 Link to comment
Sunshine October 11, 2016 Share October 11, 2016 It's possible he and Emily aren't filming together. She's with Curtis, Cisco, etc. He's with masks. She could be doing scenes on Flash while he's shooting Arrow. 1 Link to comment
Guest October 11, 2016 Share October 11, 2016 (edited) Deleted because I just realized I can't be bothered. Sorry! Edited October 11, 2016 by Guest Link to comment
Lily-n11 October 11, 2016 Share October 11, 2016 (edited) The "So there" happened at the beginning of the year. It was a post about his wife / marriage, if I remember correctly. The timing on the picture with Willa is funny because a couple of days ago several people "questioned" him about his episode 100th album on facebook (not many pictures, with so little different people). This is one of the nicer asks: Edited October 11, 2016 by Lily-n11 2 Link to comment
SmallScreenDiva October 11, 2016 Share October 11, 2016 (edited) Poster dude's not wrong. SA has posted shots with Caity, Katie, David and now Willa. There was that OTA pic that the official CW account never RT'd but no photo of just him and Emily. Says something, IMO. Edited October 11, 2016 by SmallScreenDiva 1 Link to comment
catrox14 October 11, 2016 Share October 11, 2016 3 hours ago, bethy said: Seriously. People in relationships - romantic or otherwise (Supernatural) - use the words "I'm sorry" when they're apologzing Gah. Edited 3 hours ago by bethy. Reason: Contrary to popular opinion, the words "I'm sorry" have actually passed both Sam and Dean's lips in legitimate apologies. Not often but it has happened. If the Winchesters can do it, I have hope for Oliver. :) 4 Link to comment
SmallScreenDiva October 11, 2016 Share October 11, 2016 Oliver HAS apologized to Felicity in the past about other things. But I'm not holding my breath for this one because saying sorry would be, in the writers' minds IMO, tantamount to admitting how badly they screwed up this arc. It's them that can't apologize, really. 15 Link to comment
GirlvsTV October 11, 2016 Share October 11, 2016 53 minutes ago, SmallScreenDiva said: Oliver HAS apologized to Felicity in the past about other things. But I'm not holding my breath for this one because saying sorry would be, in the writers' minds IMO, tantamount to admitting how badly they screwed up this arc. It's them that can't apologize, really. And the really frustrating thing is having him apologize would have gone a long way towards actually repairing the mess they made. Doesn't mean Felicity had to take him back, but if he'd actually expressed remorse to her I might have come back around on his character. As it is, I pretty much can't stand Oliver, nor do I have any interest in his 'journey.' 2 Link to comment
bethy October 11, 2016 Share October 11, 2016 1 hour ago, catrox14 said: Contrary to popular opinion, the words "I'm sorry" have actually passed both Sam and Dean's lips in legitimate apologies. Not often but it has happened. If the Winchesters can do it, I have hope for Oliver. :) That's fair enough. :) When this topic comes up regarding television characters, I may have rage flashbacks to seasons 8 and 9 when those words weren't said for far too long and forget that the finally remedied that. So, yeah. Hope for Oliver! 2 Link to comment
catrox14 October 11, 2016 Share October 11, 2016 18 minutes ago, bethy said: That's fair enough. :) When this topic comes up regarding television characters, I may have rage flashbacks to seasons 8 and 9 when those words weren't said for far too long and forget that the finally remedied that. So, yeah. Hope for Oliver! Heh. I wasn't even thinking of later seasons. I was thinking of s4 and s5. But, yeah I think Oliver will eventually say I'm sorry for excluding Felicity. Link to comment
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