S07.E14: Conch Blocked

[motorcitymom65]

Here is the clip of Dorinda next week, looking sloppy drunk. Lu apparently as well. 

 

As far as I can tell, Dorinda and Lu decide to discuss Heather's penchant for using "fuck" so freely, and to illustrate their point talk about how she wouldn't want her daughter to use that word, and basically that it would be a reflection on Heather if she did. Heather takes offense at that, pointing out that her own mother didn't have a problem with her using it, which didn't make her a bad mother.  She goes to town on Dorinda, pointing out that her own daughter - Hannah - uses it all of the time. It seems like this pisses Dorinda off in all kinds of ways, and she starts speaking a language no one understands. Man, does she ever look hammered. My guess is that this drama is the real reason for her Twitter rant against Heather. 

 

http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-new-york-city/season-7/episode-714/videos?clip=2877976

 

ETA: I love Kristen at the end, desperate for a refill of her wine. That would be my reaction as well. 

Edited July 1, 2015 by motorcitymom65

[WireWrap]

Here is the clip of Dorinda next week, looking sloppy drunk. Lu apparently as well. 

 

As far as I can tell, Dorinda and Lu decide to discuss Heather's penchant for using "fuck" so freely, and to illustrate their point talk about how she wouldn't want her daughter to use that word, and basically that it would be a reflection on Heather if she did. Heather takes offense at that, pointing out that her own mother didn't have a problem with her using it, which didn't make her a bad mother.  She goes to town on Dorinda, pointing out that her own daughter - Hannah - uses it all of the time. It seems like this pisses Dorinda off in all kinds of ways, and she starts speaking a language no one understands. Man, does she ever look hammered. My guess is that this drama is the real reason for her Twitter rant against Heather. 

 

http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-new-york-city/season-7/episode-714/videos?clip=2877976

 

ETA: I love Kristen at the end, desperate for a refill of her wine. That would be my reaction as well. 

On twitter last night, Dorinda said that Heather crossed the line by saying something about her, Dorinda's, mom being proud but she seems to feel it was OK to question Heather as a mom or talk about her very young daughter on camera! I now believe that Dorinda and the Countess are made for each other!  JMO

[biakbiak]

Yeah that conversation completely changes the context of the #yourmotherwouldbesoproud, and makes Dorinda spin on Twitter just as wtf as her behavior at the restaurant.

Also, Lu I don't know if you should be going hard on how a child's actions (in this case hypothetical actions) reflect what kind of parent you are given some of the things Victoria has done, I mean it's not nice to throw the nannies under the bus!

[slitz]

Holy christ, Dorinda is drunk off her ass in that clip.  She's making no sense.  Does she not realize that technically "shit" is a curse word and she just loves to say that all the time.  You better back that shit up Dorinda and back it up real quick!

[Crikey]

On twitter last night, Dorinda said that Heather crossed the line by saying something about her, Dorinda's, mom being proud but she seems to feel it was OK to question Heather as a mom or talk about her very young daughter on camera! I now believe that Dorinda and the Countess are made for each other!  JMO

Agree.

Dorinda was the first to bring her mother into the conversation by saying her mother would be disgusted if she heard Dorinda  swearing in her presence so I feel it was kinda natural, after Dorinda then hurled a bunch of swearing at the table (on national and international television, no less) for Heather to say Dorinda's mother would be so proud.

Drunkity-drunk-pirate-bangin' Countess is perfectly acceptable in European royal circles just no  F-bombs!  Check!  lol

Edited July 1, 2015 by Crikey

[Sun-Bun]

Wow, slurring, yelling Dorinda with a crumb on her lips to complete the whole sloppy look---classy broad. I like her and all, but it's moments like those that make me think she got lost on her way to a "Real Housewives of New Jersey" taping.

That's the thing about dirty martinis: they're wonderful and all, but after 2 or 3, they'll turn any lady into a slurring, sloppy mess. Stick to the wine, Countess and Dorinda!!

And all that talk about cursing? ALL these ladies swear like sailors...perhaps with the exception of Kristen and maybe Ramona. The F word is right in there with "shit" as well, indeed. What a stupid thing to even argue about...I'm with Bethenny on this one---surely 8 cultured NYC women can find a few more culturally interesting things to discuss than drunk Sonja...and f bombs??!!!

Edited July 1, 2015 by Sun-Bun

[imjagain]

I really get a kick out of Lu but that is some ridiculous shit right there. 2 sloppy drunks lecturing anyone on how to be classy/sophisticated lol.

My favorite part is Sonja's TH - the countess is well.... fucked up. Lol.

Did everyone decide to go after Heather at some point, damn. It's a good thing Heather a strong woman and can take all this petty bullshit. It still has to be tiresome for her.

Edited July 1, 2015 by imjagain

[motorcitymom65]

I really get a kick out of Lu but that is some ridiculous shit right there. 2 sloppy drunks lecturing anyone on how to be classy/sophisticated lol.

My favorite part is Sonja's TH - the countess is well.... fucked up. Lol.

Did everyone decide to go after Heather at some point, damn. It's a good thing Heather a strong woman and can take all this petty bullshit. It still has to be tiresome for her.

I cannot even imagine how furious I would be were Lu to lecture me on how to set a good example for my children. Words of Pirate Gate would come tumbling from my lips. 

 

When Dorinda watched that scene back, she had to be shocked to see how composed Heather was able to remain, while she became a crazy person. Since she was clearly drunk at the time, she probably had no idea exactly how she was behaving (she clearly didn't know she had food stuck to her lip and no one was giving her a heads up). Of course, editing and Bravo being what they are, it is possible that Heather does become equally crazy. Personally, I would have loved to hear Heather shout out a big fat "don't tell me nothing motherfucker". 

[KFC]

Is this the first time we've ever seen the Countess truly out and out wasted?

 

The editing monkeys usually spare us drunk Luann. What a treat it will be to see her hammered self in all its full glory next week.

[imjagain]

I cannot even imagine how furious I would be were Lu to lecture me on how to set a good example for my children. Words of Pirate Gate would come tumbling from my lips.

When Dorinda watched that scene back, she had to be shocked to see how composed Heather was able to remain, while she became a crazy person. Since she was clearly drunk at the time, she probably had no idea exactly how she was behaving (she clearly didn't know she had food stuck to her lip and no one was giving her a heads up). Of course, editing and Bravo being what they are, it is possible that Heather does become equally crazy. Personally, I would have loved to hear Heather shout out a big fat "don't tell me nothing motherfucker".

Oh, I would love to hear Heather shout that. Fingers crossed!

[RedheadZombie]

Here is the clip of Dorinda next week, looking sloppy drunk. Lu apparently as well. 

 

As far as I can tell, Dorinda and Lu decide to discuss Heather's penchant for using "fuck" so freely, and to illustrate their point talk about how she wouldn't want her daughter to use that word, and basically that it would be a reflection on Heather if she did. Heather takes offense at that, pointing out that her own mother didn't have a problem with her using it, which didn't make her a bad mother.  She goes to town on Dorinda, pointing out that her own daughter - Hannah - uses it all of the time. It seems like this pisses Dorinda off in all kinds of ways, and she starts speaking a language no one understands. Man, does she ever look hammered. My guess is that this drama is the real reason for her Twitter rant against Heather. 

 

http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-new-york-city/season-7/episode-714/videos?clip=2877976

 

ETA: I love Kristen at the end, desperate for a refill of her wine. That would be my reaction as well. 

 

We've seen that Dorinda has a trigger temper when it comes to Hannah.  Remember when John made a mild crack, and Dorinda turned into the godfather.

 

Luann's been telling us we'll understand why she's upset with Heather when we see T&C.  I wonder if it's going to be an empty promise, like Caroline's from the NJ franchise.

 

I'm dying to see what Beth's reaction was to the whole thing.  Dorinda and Luann holding themselves up as cultured elegant women, and impeccable parents.  Most of the audience despises darling Hannah, and Luann was, at best, an absentee mother.  I liked both of them, and I'm very disappointed.

[LotusFlower]

I'm trying to reconcile LuAnn's "I can't imagine my daughter in Europe with her father using profanity....so inelegant" stance with seeing Victoria singing backup for her mother on WWHL in a bustier and stockings and straps. Many words come to mind at that appearance. Elegant is not one of them.

To quote LuAnn's first song: "Elegance is learned." She really needs to check herself on that judgmental parenting shit.

[RedheadZombie]

No one is mentioning it, but is it in this clip that Heather says Sonja claimed a three-way with Heather and Jonathan?  What a desperate cow.

[motorcitymom65]

No one is mentioning it, but is it in this clip that Heather says Sonja claimed a three-way with Heather and Jonathan?  What a desperate cow.

No, that was in the episode last night, and very easy to miss. It was when they were standing in the kitchen, agreeing to not discuss Sonja any more; or face a $100 fine. Heather whispered it and it was clear it was not meant to be on camera. They used the subtitles to tell us what she was saying. I would have so loved to have heard more about that. 

[Grneyedldy]

I'm trying to reconcile LuAnn's "I can't imagine my daughter in Europe with her father using profanity....so inelegant" stance with seeing Victoria singing backup for her mother on WWHL in a bustier and stockings and straps. Many words come to mind at that appearance. Elegant is not one of them.

To quote LuAnn's first song: "Elegance is learned." She really needs to check herself on that judgmental parenting shit.

My friend

[AnnA]

I loved that clip so much I watched it at least 10 times.

 

Edited July 2, 2015 by AnnA

[HumblePi]

 

I think in a year or 2 Mario and Ramona will be back together. I think deep down that is what she wants. She just needs Mario to get it out of his system or at least stop publicly embarrassing her. 

 

Ramona played it as though Mario was still trying to court her again but the truth is they're battling fiercely over money right now according to the latest news regarding their divorce. It's become a bitter struggle between them. Not at all how Ramona talks about it. Mario is having a grand old time down in Florida partying. Mario is reported to be the happiest he's been in years. Ramona is living in her own world thinking what she wants to think. The battles between them are over properties in NY and S. Hampton. Most site report that Ramona is the one with the money but truthfully I'm not buying that. Mario is a very successful businessman.

http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2015/03/ramona-singer-divorce-mario-dating/

[WireWrap]

Ramona played it as though Mario was still trying to court her again but the truth is they're battling fiercely over money right now according to the latest news regarding their divorce. It's become a bitter struggle between them. Not at all how Ramona talks about it. Mario is having a grand old time down in Florida partying. Mario is reported to be the happiest he's been in years. Ramona is living in her own world thinking what she wants to think. The battles between them are over properties in NY and S. Hampton. Most site report that Ramona is the one with the money but truthfully I'm not buying that. Mario is a very successful businessman.

http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2015/03/ramona-singer-divorce-mario-dating/

IMO, just mine, Ramona is doing what she has always done, which is the old "Smoke and Mirrors" trick. She does not want the truth about Mario just being done with her on the show, so she says that he is "courting" her and wants her back. Her public/TV image that she crafted over the years even is everything to her IMO.

[BettyPoz]

On twitter last night, Dorinda said that Heather crossed the line by saying something about her, Dorinda's, mom being proud but she seems to feel it was OK to question Heather as a mom or talk about her very young daughter on camera! I now believe that Dorinda and the Countess are made for each other!  JMO

Au contraire Dorinda! The line was crossed when drunken you and drunken Luann were barraging Heather with your "bad parent" routine.  Turn about is fair play and Heather called you out by saying sarcastically that your mother would be "so proud" of your behavior right now when she sees it on TV.  so to TM Dorinda - Back that shit up Bitch!   I.LOVED.IT  

 

Wow, slurring, yelling Dorinda with a crumb on her lips to complete the whole sloppy look---classy broad. I like her and all, but it's moments like those that make me think she got lost on her way to a "Real Housewives of New Jersey" taping.

That's the thing about dirty martinis: they're wonderful and all, but after 2 or 3, they'll turn any lady into a slurring, sloppy mess. Stick to the wine, Countess and Dorinda!!

And all that talk about cursing? ALL these ladies swear like sailors...perhaps with the exception of Kristen and maybe Ramona. The F word is right in there with "shit" as well, indeed. What a stupid thing to even argue about...I'm with Bethenny on this one---surely 8 cultured NYC women can find a few more culturally interesting things to discuss than drunk Sonja...and f bombs??!!!

To quote James Thurber: "One Martini is all right. Two are too many, and three are not enough".  From experience the same applies to cosmopolitans.  Beer on the other hand? Just hand me over the 6 pack!

[bosawks]

According to Yahoo News there is a genetic link between blue eyes (that's me!) and alcoholism so I'm going full Sonja for the next episode:

 

"Fuck all y'all!  You never undrestood me, you're all just jealish, hiccup, and I did so screw Winston Churchill or RFK or some fat, bald dude with an English accent or some skinny dude with good hair who dropped his R's.  I am Rich with a capital something, woops, there's the check gotta run......."

 

Or something like that, depends on how inspired the G&T's make me.

[Mozelle]

I'm trying to reconcile LuAnn's "I can't imagine my daughter in Europe with her father using profanity....so inelegant" stance with seeing Victoria singing backup for her mother on WWHL in a bustier and stockings and straps. Many words come to mind at that appearance. Elegant is not one of them.

To quote LuAnn's first song: "Elegance is learned." She really needs to check herself on that judgmental parenting shit.

I'm still trying to reconcile that with the memory I have of Victoria on video five or so years ago getting lit and dropping the n-word.

OK, so I've removed the spoiler tags from the post below.

 

I would agree if she wasn't currently all over twitter for weeks now bashing Heather over the smallest things. Some bad blood there, and nothing we've seen yet seems to justify it. Dorinda trying to be relevant to the storyline, perhaps?

Love Luann, so it concerns me that she too has a beef with Heather. I'm thinking that stems from Heather's slut shaming of Luann from later in the vacation, when Luann brings some stranger back to the house. Hello, everyone knows that vacation sex doesn't count. Lighten up, Heather

I brought this over from the "Sonja Island" episode thread. I also removed the spoiler tag.

So, I question whether it can be said that Heather slut shamed LuAnn. It hasn't aired yet, but from what I've been hearing about whatever the fight is that leads to LuAnn saying "Be cool. don't be all, like, uncool" is that LuAnn had a stranger in their vacation home. If I'm remembering correctly, LuAnn, Heather, and Carole shared the suite bathroom. While LuAnn has a room to herself and Carole and Heather are rooming together, there's an adjoining bathroom. It could very well be that Heather woke up, went to use the bathroom and found some half dressed (or totally nude) dude in the bathroom. If that's the case, that can be jarring as hell.

Edited July 2, 2015 by Mozelle

[WireWrap]

I'm still trying to reconcile that with the memory I have of Victoria on video five or so years ago getting lit and dropping the n-word.

OK, so I've removed the spoiler tags from the post below.

 

I brought this over from the "Sonja Island" episode thread. I also removed the spoiler tag.

So, I question whether it can be said that Heather slut shamed LuAnn. It hasn't aired yet, but from what I've been hearing about whatever the fight is that leads to LuAnn saying "Be cool. don't be all, like, uncool" is that LuAnn had a stranger in their vacation home. If I'm remembering correctly, LuAnn, Heather, and Carole shared the suite bathroom. While LuAnn has a room to herself and Carole and Heather are rooming together, there's an adjoining bathroom. It could very well be that Heather woke up, went to use the bathroom and found some half dressed (or totally nude) dude in the bathroom. If that's the case, that can be jarring as hell.

If anyone brought some strange man into a house where I was staying on vacation I would be upset as well! I also don't consider that "slut shaming", I consider it a matter of safety. If a person wants to jeopardize their own safety by having sex with a complete stranger that is their business but when they put me in possible harms way by doing so, it makes it my business and my safety is more important than her getting her itch scratched. JMO

[biakbiak]

Lu has her own bathroom, Heather and Carole share with Bethenny.

[imjagain]

On Twitter Carole says Lu is just making up drama. She says she has done nothing to Lu, except to walk in her room in the morning, just like Lu had done to her many times.

So I'm thinking Lu didn't like being caught with a guy and knows that Heather and Carole will talk about it. And she no likey.

The problem is Lu is single why does she care about being "caught" with some random vacation guy?

I believe Carole, Lu has been trying to spin this drama all season.

[Mozelle]

Lu has her own bathroom, Heather and Carole share with Bethenny.

Oh, OK. Thanks for the correction.

In any case, I wouldn't assume that Heather being jarred over a strange guy being in the house proper means that she's slut shaming LuAnn.

[Crikey]

Carole tweeted a response to a follower:

 

 

Nothing. I walk into her bedroom one morning. As she has done 2 me. Thats all folks. She makes up dumb drama 4 show.

Carole Radziwill added,

 

Melissa @nursepeyton
I can't imagine right now what @CountessLuann and @CaroleRadziwill get into with each other at this point...can't wait to find out!! #RHONY

 

I was wondering if Carole walked into Lu's room and found...... da da da dum...... a man, maybe two, maybe a whole pirate ship full.

lol

In season previews when Heather is ticked at Lu, Lu mentioned "we" and bringing home a couple of men.  Only ones I can think of in the "we" is Sonja and Lu.

 

eta:  opps, just saw your post, imjagain.

Edited July 2, 2015 by Crikey

[WireWrap]

On Twitter Carole says Lu is just making up drama. She says she has done nothing to Lu, except to walk in her room in the morning, just like Lu had done to her many times.

So I'm thinking Lu didn't like being caught with a guy and knows that Heather and Carole will talk about it. And she no likey.

The problem is Lu is single why does she care about being "caught" with some random vacation guy?

I believe Carole, Lu has been trying to spin this drama all season.

Hmmm, why would LuAnn be surprised or upset about getting caught bringing strange men into the house they were being filmed in? LOL Seriously, did she really think she would not get caught THIS time? LOL ITA, LuAnn is using this for drama to keep her Apple!

[Crikey]

Hmmm, why would LuAnn be surprised or upset about getting caught bringing strange men into the house they were being filmed in? LOL Seriously, did she really think she would not get caught THIS time? LOL ITA, LuAnn is using this for drama to keep her Apple!

I wondered, also but then I remembered the dinner when Lu said she had the best sex two days previously.  In someone's blog they said it was so good because Lu was and is still in love.  I wondered if Lu has, for the second vacation now, cheated on some NY man.   Dunno.

Edited July 2, 2015 by Crikey

[slitz]

Hmmm, why would LuAnn be surprised or upset about getting caught bringing strange men into the house they were being filmed in? LOL Seriously, did she really think she would not get caught THIS time? LOL ITA, LuAnn is using this for drama to keep her Apple!

 

Agreed.  Because, really, what else has Lu brought to this season?  Some feigned indignation over Carole dating her niece's ex-boyrfriend that barely even lasted 1 episode.  Then there was her collection that took up, if one were to put all the scenes together, one episode.  So two episodes out of 13 so far?  Meanwhile, the Sonja drama has been going on since the beginning really, then there's Ramona's divorce and Bethenny has also been a main focus.  For everyone saying that Kristen and Heather should be worried about keeping their apples because of a lack of a storyline, so should Luann.

[imjagain]

Carole tweeted a response to a follower:

 

 

Nothing. I walk into her bedroom one morning. As she has done 2 me. Thats all folks. She makes up dumb drama 4 show.

Carole Radziwill added,

 

Melissa @nursepeyton

I can't imagine right now what @CountessLuann and @CaroleRadziwill get into with each other at this point...can't wait to find out!! #RHONY

 

I was wondering if Carole walked into Lu's room and found...... da da da dum...... a man, maybe two, maybe a whole pirate ship full.

lol

In season previews when Heather is ticked at Lu, Lu mentioned "we" and bringing home a couple of men.  Only ones I can think of in the "we" is Sonja and Lu.

 

eta:  opps, just saw your post, imjagain.

It's cool :)

[WireWrap]

I wondered, also but then I remembered the dinner when Lu said she had the best sex two days previously.  In someone's blog they said it was so good because Lu was and is still in love.  I wondered if Lu has, for the second vacation now, cheated on some NY man.   Dunno.

I see your point but once again, what makes her think she could get away with cheating, on a HW trip that is filmed, when she didn't last time? LOL

 

Agreed.  Because, really, what else has Lu brought to this season?  Some feigned indignation over Carole dating her niece's ex-boyrfriend that barely even lasted 1 episode.  Then there was her collection that took up, if one were to put all the scenes together, one episode.  So two episodes out of 13 so far?  Meanwhile, the Sonja drama has been going on since the beginning really, then there's Ramona's divorce and Bethenny has also been a main focus.  For everyone saying that Kristen and Heather should be worried about keeping their apples because of a lack of a storyline, so should Luann.

Funny, even though they did not feature Heather's private life this season, she has been a focal point throughout the entire season so far. LOL I think that the only way that Heather does not come back next season is if SHE doesn't want to, not that they would fire her. JMO

[Crikey]

I see your point but once again, what makes her think she could get away with cheating, on a HW trip that is filmed, when she didn't last time? LOL

 

 

You are correct, it was my mistake.  I responded to you and I meant to respond to imjagain when she posted "The problem is Lu is single why does she care about being "caught" with some random vacation guy?"

I read your post that quoted her, got mixed up and entered the HW  zone........mixing up stuff  responding to the wrong person, to the wrong query in the wrong box at the wrong time, misreading cues, signals .......help!  I'm babbling and can't stop  lol 

Walls, I need walls! 

I think this disproportionate response might qualify me for an Apple next season.  lol

[LotusFlower]

n/m

Edited July 4, 2015 by LotusFlower

[motorcitymom65]

Hmmm, why would LuAnn be surprised or upset about getting caught bringing strange men into the house they were being filmed in? LOL Seriously, did she really think she would not get caught THIS time? LOL ITA, LuAnn is using this for drama to keep her Apple!

My thoughts are that this is where Carole and her video camera come in. 

 

She has already said on Twitter that her big sin is to walk into Lu's bedroom. I wonder if she is filming when she walks in and Lu has some random dude in bed with her? She also said in an earlier interview that Lu accuses her of something that made no sense. Maybe Lu thinks that she walked in on purpose? 

 

Regarding the slut-shaming that it is already being reported (not just here but elsewhere) happens by Heather, I think they are setting this up to look like Heather isn't a fan of the sex-capades on vacation. That she wants to throw a wet blanket on the fun the singletons want to have. She is bossy and controlling, and if she doesn't like it than it has to stop. For some reason this is what my gut is telling me the narrative is going to be. Since we haven't seen it yet who knows, but I wouldn't be that huge on having random guys wondering around my vacation home naked. Clearly, they are not going to rob them blind because there are camera crews around, but I just don't think I would be that big on it. Another thing I think is that to a certain extent this season has become about the single girls. Kristen and Heather get kind of left out because their situation is different. To then come on vacation where you want to hang out with your gal pals and have it turn out to be about flirting and fucking when you cannot indulge would probably suck, IMO. 

[Grneyedldy]

Whether Carole was filming walking into Luann's room wouldn't matter because a bravo camera was probably following Carole in. Maybe that is what the whole to do is about. Luann could have snuck the guy out from her room since she had a door out to the pool area. Then she could have come out for breakfast like everything was normal.

And isn't the other person that supposedly brought a guy home Ramona?

[jojomano]

http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-new-york-city/season-7/episode-714/videos?clip=2877976

Wow on that clip! I kinda feel like Kristin. Dorinda would scare me a little too. And the Countess was sloppy drunk. Tx for the clip!

[WireWrap]

My thoughts are that this is where Carole and her video camera come in. 

 

She has already said on Twitter that her big sin is to walk into Lu's bedroom. I wonder if she is filming when she walks in and Lu has some random dude in bed with her? She also said in an earlier interview that Lu accuses her of something that made no sense. Maybe Lu thinks that she walked in on purpose? 

 

Regarding the slut-shaming that it is already being reported (not just here but elsewhere) happens by Heather, I think they are setting this up to look like Heather isn't a fan of the sex-capades on vacation. That she wants to throw a wet blanket on the fun the singletons want to have. She is bossy and controlling, and if she doesn't like it than it has to stop. For some reason this is what my gut is telling me the narrative is going to be. Since we haven't seen it yet who knows, but I wouldn't be that huge on having random guys wondering around my vacation home naked. Clearly, they are not going to rob them blind because there are camera crews around, but I just don't think I would be that big on it. Another thing I think is that to a certain extent this season has become about the single girls. Kristen and Heather get kind of left out because their situation is different. To then come on vacation where you want to hang out with your gal pals and have it turn out to be about flirting and fucking when you cannot indulge would probably suck, IMO. 

The camera crew does not film 24/7. They usually stay at a different hotel/rental otherwise they would have had film of both LuAnn/Sonja's escapades 2 seasons ago. It is possible that Carole was "filming" but we have not seen her camera since they first got there. I think we are going to have to wait to see exactly what does happen because what LuAnn accused Carole of so far was not exactly the truth and I think most bloggers/articles/reports are basing their stories on information LuAnn has "shared"! LOL

[LotusFlower]

My thoughts are that this is where Carole and her video camera come in. 

 

She has already said on Twitter that her big sin is to walk into Lu's bedroom. I wonder if she is filming when she walks in and Lu has some random dude in bed with her? She also said in an earlier interview that Lu accuses her of something that made no sense. Maybe Lu thinks that she walked in on purpose.

This theory is brilliant. I bet Carole turned her footage over to the producers (the big sin), and LuAnn is pissed. Maybe she feels Carole should have withheld the tape. Or deleted the incriminating evidence. Or knocked first. Who knows? I wonder if there's a chapter on how to handle such a scenario in her etiquette book.

[Rhetorica]

This theory is brilliant. I bet Carole turned her footage over to the producers (the big sin), and LuAnn is pissed. Maybe she feels Carole should have withheld the tape. Or deleted the incriminating evidence. Or knocked first. Who knows? I wonder if there's a chapter on how to handle such a scenario in her etiquette book.

Well if Carole did turn something like that over to production, I think she broke more than the girl code. I guess it could have been worse. She could have sold the tape for money.

[Grneyedldy]

This theory is brilliant. I bet Carole turned her footage over to the producers (the big sin), and LuAnn is pissed. Maybe she feels Carole should have withheld the tape. Or deleted the incriminating evidence. Or knocked first. Who knows? I wonder if there's a chapter on how to handle such a scenario in her etiquette book.

Well shit, I would be pissed too if all that happened. I can't picture Carole handing over tape of Lu and the latest pirate to Bravo. That would pretty shitty and low and I really don't think Carole likes to get stink on her. I think Carole walks in to wake her (with Bravo cameras in tow) expecting to get a bed head Countess and instead finds fresh pirate chum.

[motorcitymom65]

The thing I have found with these shows is that when they show us something small, like Carole bringing a video camera - and Ramona having a talking head about it - generally there is a reason. It might be insignificant, but I think there will be more to this.

[AnnA]

There is another possibility.  After LuAnn said she had the best sex ever only two days ago, she also said how much she loves her vibrator.  Maybe Carol caught Lu on film with a battery operated toy and not a man.  

 

 

ETA:  My cable guide shows next week's First Look is on Sunday night, 8:32 PM - 8:49 PM EST.

Edited July 3, 2015 by AnnA

[LotusFlower]

Well shit, I would be pissed too if all that happened. I can't picture Carole handing over tape of Lu and the latest pirate to Bravo. That would pretty shitty and low and I really don't think Carole likes to get stink on her.

I agree, but what if she just turned over the memory card from the whole trip (maybe that was the arrangement with the producers), and didn't think about editing, or wasn't allowed to edit. Something like that.

[zoeysmom]

I see your point but once again, what makes her think she could get away with cheating, on a HW trip that is filmed, when she didn't last time? LOL

 

Funny, even though they did not feature Heather's private life this season, she has been a focal point throughout the entire season so far. LOL I think that the only way that Heather does not come back next season is if SHE doesn't want to, not that they would fire her. JMO

Any ideas why Heather's time is so limited? It just seems odd because last year she was everywhere and could do everything better than anyone from mountain games to singing. 

[WireWrap]

Any ideas why Heather's time is so limited? It just seems odd because last year she was everywhere and could do everything better than anyone from mountain games to singing. 

I  think they, Andy/producers, wanted to promote Bethenny as the strong/fragile business woman this season and that left Heather out in the cold. JMO

[AnnA]

I think they, Andy/producers, wanted to promote Bethenny as the strong/fragile business woman this season and that left Heather out in the cold. JMO

I'm sure that's true but they also had to promote the newbie, Dorinda and introduce her daughter and boyfriend. Add to that drunken Sonja and her new fashion line, LuAnn's new line for Evine & selling her Hampton's house, Ramona and her Mario woes, Carol and the chef and finally a little Pop of Color from Kristen.

I still think eight HWs is at least two too many.

Edited July 3, 2015 by AnnA

[Grneyedldy]

I agree, but what if she just turned over the memory card from the whole trip (maybe that was the arrangement with the producers), and didn't think about editing, or wasn't allowed to edit. Something like that.

Gosh who knows with Bravo, but I would think what little time the women have without the Bravo cameras around on these trips would be precious and they wouldn't want to worry about rogue filming.

[JAYJAY1979]

I'd be kristen..except I'd just grab the bottle and start going to town drinking it lpl

[HunterHunted]

Considering the epic amount of shit that happens when the camera crews have to pack up, I'm surprised it's taken a show this long to just give a cast member a camcorder. We've missed the Vanderpump Rules guys hooking up with any number of girls; Pirategate; Mike and GG almost hooking up on Shahs; T Rav falling naked into a pool while holding his daughter on Southern Charm; at least one assualt on New Jersey; Kim Richard's drunken high antics on Beverly Hills; at least two rapes, a ton of assaults, and a universe of hook ups including Danny's hook up with a straight male castmate on The Real World/The Challenge.

So to LuAnn, I say BFD if Carole has a camcorder (that Bravo likely gave her) whose footage she turns over to Bravo. After listening to a podcast with a Vanderpump Rules producer, he said even if there are no cameras filming there is a line producer up trying capture what's going on with their cell. Also having camera crews present is no guarantee that a crime won't occur as The Real World has proven. They've had drunken strangers come into the houses and commit crimes while the cameras were rolling. Heather and any of the ladies have a right to be concerned when they find strangers there.

LuAnn has chutzpah. If I were her, I would never bring up anyone else's parenting when we saw that her children were raised by the nannies and that Victoria was caught on camera using drugs and dropping the n bomb.

[motorcitymom65]

Carole recently said this in an article I read about Lu and her hypocrisy about Carole and Adam.  She is referring to events that happen in T&C:

 

 

“LuAnn hypocritically slept with the 21-year-old son of an island staffer, and the two went skinny-dipping in the ocean. She also hooked up with another guy named David.”

 

Sounds like the Countess really enjoys her vacation. 

 

http://www.inquisitr.com/2199344/luann-de-lesseps-debuts-new-song-girl-code-co-star-carole-radziwill-to-counter-with-ya-dumb-hypocrite/