westwingfan April 25, 2016 Share April 25, 2016 I predict that by Wednesday, we'll all be checked in to the loonie bin for not having a place to vent our frustrations ;-). So, it was fun knowing you all ;-). They only allow me limited internet access as part of my therapy already LOL 2 Link to comment
pepper April 25, 2016 Share April 25, 2016 Wonder how much I can get for early-series DVDs on eBay? Every "idea" I hear for how they'll be continuing the show sounds worse than the one before. 4 Link to comment
KaveDweller April 25, 2016 Share April 25, 2016 (edited) Well I think you're important. That's why I've decided to stop watching now, because I'm convinced that Beckett will die, we won't necessarily actually see her breathe her last in the finale, just throw herself in front of Castle and take the bullet meant for him, and the episode ends with Castle cradling her, "Stay with me Kate, I love you", so Hawley gets his cliff hanger, which potentially could have had two outcomes, but now we know has only one. That way I will be still be able to watch the pre S8 episodes without that image in my head to make a mockery of everything that came before. Of course, how you continue the comedy show that Fillione believes the show is when his character should be wracked with guilt over Beckett's sacrifice on top of being distraught any way for losing his Yin I wouldn't know but I'm sure Hawley and TPW will give pre-season interviews telling everyone how much "fun" it's going to be. I admire your strength, because I can't make myself stop watching. I'm sure you are right about the ending, and I'm hoping I can still convince myself it wasn't real and they had a happy ending, but I don't know anymore. I was watching old clips on YouTube yesterday, and all I could think was how sad that she's going to die so young.I have this awful fear that they'll try and show Castle exactly the same next year as he is now. I'm also wondering who kills her. If they really wrap up LokSat it can't be him, unless he manages to pull a gun as he is being dragged away in handcuffs. But it's really sad to think of Beckett as the murder victim instead of the person solving the murders. Edited April 25, 2016 by KaveDweller 1 Link to comment
TWP April 25, 2016 Share April 25, 2016 What if...what if....all this angst was for nothing and Mr. Fillion is moving on anyway...maybe delaying the big eff-you to ABC while he's negotiating....other things. He is doing Guardians of the Galaxy, Volume 2: Link to comment
WendyCR72 April 25, 2016 Share April 25, 2016 What if...what if....all this angst was for nothing and Mr. Fillion is moving on anyway...maybe delaying the big eff-you to ABC while he's negotiating....other things. He is doing Guardians of the Galaxy, Volume 2: Some TV stars do movies as well as their show. (Michael J. Fox as an example from long ago.) I don't think one negates the other. But we'll see. 1 Link to comment
westwingfan April 25, 2016 Share April 25, 2016 I'm also wondering kills her. If they really wrap up LokSat it can't be him, unless he manages to pull a gun as he is being dragged away in handcuffs. But it's really sad to think of Beckett as the murder victim instead of the person solving the murders. I've seen a few films and shows where that happens, Gary Busey nearly managed it in Lethal Weapon, there was a made for TV movie that for the life of me I can't remember the title where the baddie succeeds in killing the male cop. I can see how Hawley would stretch things out for maximum effect giving the impression that Beckett will walk away and then BAM, but as I understand it, it's just Castle and Beckett at the final shootout without back up, so more likely that she takes down Loksat as she leaps in front of Castle. The one thing that the showrunners have been consistent about is that the Loksat story ends in S8, although the last time they mentioned that they did make it sound as though it would be satisfactory for Caskett, guess we now know that's poppycock. Jan 10 “This season was a little bit of a transition, getting Castle into the PI office and setting that world up for him to give him that drive,” Hawley said. “We wanted to wrap up a lot of the threads of different conspiracies, Beckett’s mother’s murder, Castle’s missing time. We wanted by the end of Season 8 to have gotten through all those — hopefully in a compelling and satisfying way –so Season 9 can be more about the case of the week, going back to the fun of solving the case of the week and not have the luggage of past conspiracies.” What if...what if....all this angst was for nothing and Mr. Fillion is moving on anyway...maybe delaying the big eff-you to ABC while he's negotiating....other things. He is doing Guardians of the Galaxy, Volume 2: If only. LOL, But it only talks about a "cameo" role doesn't it? Link to comment
TWP April 25, 2016 Share April 25, 2016 (edited) If only. LOL, But it only talks about a "cameo" role doesn't it? The Guardians PTB don't even confirm that he's doing it, so who knows if it's a cameo or more. I know that actors can have many gigs, but just speculating that he doesn't really want to do Castle at all and he's holing up there for now as a bargaining chip. Edited April 25, 2016 by TWP Link to comment
CheshireCat April 25, 2016 Share April 25, 2016 westwingfan, on 25 Apr 2016 - 4:26 PM, said: Jan 10 “This season was a little bit of a transition, getting Castle into the PI office and setting that world up for him to give him that drive,” Hawley said. “We wanted to wrap up a lot of the threads of different conspiracies, Beckett’s mother’s murder, Castle’s missing time. We wanted by the end of Season 8 to have gotten through all those — hopefully in a compelling and satisfying way –so Season 9 can be more about the case of the week, going back to the fun of solving the case of the week and not have the luggage of past conspiracies.” Makes me wonder why they decided to bring the conspiracy back into it in the first place. They could have just gone with cases of the week from the beginning and tie Castle's disappearance to his father. I don't know how to link to specific tweets but Hanning just tweeted he'd be doing a live tweet (life permitting). The # he added is interesting. Reads "one last time" and it's preceeded by a Castle819, not Caskett, so I don't think he's referring to doing a live tweet with Caskett for the last time. Didn't someone suggest he might be leaving, too? Link to comment
TWP April 25, 2016 Share April 25, 2016 Makes me wonder why they decided to bring the conspiracy back into it in the first place. They could have just gone with cases of the week from the beginning and tie Castle's disappearance to his father. Probably for easy/lazy separation of Caskett. They needed something to drive them apart for awhile to facilitate actors' demands ;-). Link to comment
westwingfan April 25, 2016 Share April 25, 2016 Makes me wonder why they decided to bring the conspiracy back into it in the first place. They could have just gone with cases of the week from the beginning and tie Castle's disappearance to his father. I don't know how to link to specific tweets but Hanning just tweeted he'd be doing a live tweet (life permitting). The # he added is interesting. Reads "one last time" and it's preceeded by a Castle819, not Caskett, so I don't think he's referring to doing a live tweet with Caskett for the last time. Didn't someone suggest he might be leaving, too? It was the best they could come up with to allow them to separate Castle and Beckett for most of the season by having Beckett nobly risk her marriage to keep Castle safe when combined with the decision to promote Beckett, which kept her away from most of the crime scene scenes. Here's Hanning's tweet, I just do a copy and paste. Robert Hanning @RobHanning 2h2 hours ago Life permitting I will live tweet West coast feed tonight #Castle819 #onelasttime Link to comment
femmefan1946 April 25, 2016 Share April 25, 2016 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wonder_Man I got three paragraphs into the origin story, during most of which the character seems to have been in a coma, and gave up. http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2016/04/25/nathan-fillion-will-be-wonder-man-in-the-mcu And if they go with this costume, NF won't have to rehire the trainer he tasered a while back. Link to comment
westwingfan April 25, 2016 Share April 25, 2016 Promo pics for 8x21 Hell To Pay, diplomatically only showing regular cast, no guests. http://www.disneyabcpress.com/abc/shows/castle/episodes/hell-to-pay/ Link to comment
TWP April 25, 2016 Share April 25, 2016 Promo pics for 8x21 Hell To Pay, diplomatically only showing regular cast, no guests. http://www.disneyabcpress.com/abc/shows/castle/episodes/hell-to-pay/ Backstabber? Hell to Pay? How ironic. If I were writing fan reactions to Stana leaving, these would be the words I'd use. I wonder if we're getting punked here. Wouldn't it be funny if they told us they weren't bringing her back and then they ... brought her back? Link to comment
FlickerToAFlame April 25, 2016 Share April 25, 2016 Backstabber? Hell to Pay? How ironic. If I were writing fan reactions to Stana leaving, these would be the words I'd use. I wonder if we're getting punked here. Wouldn't it be funny if they told us they weren't bringing her back and then they ... brought her back? Was totally thinking this. What if we're getting Castle birthday Rear Window'd? Highly unlikely but it's one of the only things that would actually make sense. 1 Link to comment
TWP April 25, 2016 Share April 25, 2016 Was totally thinking this. What if we're getting Castle birthday Rear Window'd? Highly unlikely but it's one of the only things that would actually make sense. It would definitely go along with all the woe-is-me'ing on Twitter. Hanning's laaast Castle (wah-wah-wah). Beckett's chair (sob). Sigh. Link to comment
metaphor April 25, 2016 Share April 25, 2016 Here's Hanning's tweet, I just do a copy and paste. Robert Hanning @RobHanning 2h2 hours ago Life permitting I will live tweet West coast feed tonight #Castle819 #onelasttime Interesting. I was just conjecturing before that he might be leaving too, but this makes it seem more likely. It makes sense, given that he's the only one who's spoken up about how sad he is that Stana's leaving. Even the showrunners themselves haven't even put out a statement, which really burns. ABC put one out, NF put one out, one would think they would be allowed to, even for the sake of PR. I'm torn between sticking it out till the finale, because you know, I still like Caskett and Beckett and want to see as much of them as I can, or just dropping out while my last memory of them is a happy one. Luckily, the show is airing earlier in Canada, and someone is livetweeting. I guess I can use those livetweets to gauge what a good time to exit would be. I do find it interesting that between last week's episode and this week's, we've had suggestions of Caskett walking off into the sunset together. The biking across the country, the moving to Paris... I wonder if those are hints being laid out for a possible series finale, or if they're supposed to be a "This is what could have been if they hadn't gone after Loksat... but here, have a dead Beckett instead." 1 Link to comment
TWP April 25, 2016 Share April 25, 2016 I do find it interesting that between last week's episode and this week's, we've had suggestions of Caskett walking off into the sunset together. The biking across the country, the moving to Paris... I wonder if those are hints being laid out for a possible series finale, or if they're supposed to be a "This is what could have been if they hadn't gone after Loksat... but here, have a dead Beckett instead." Or it could be that those activities coincide with the end of Castle's fan fiction about Castle and Beckett. Eight years of dreams and now back to reality. I scratch my head at the fact that the body doubles finished later than the main cast....hmmmm, they would likely do believable silhouettes. Link to comment
newyawk April 25, 2016 Share April 25, 2016 ?????? https://twitter.com/sciokkyhuddy83/status/724527020961599488 LOL, if they want to kill that show too they will cast the one note Summer Glau as a lead. 1 Link to comment
MaryM47 April 25, 2016 Share April 25, 2016 Apparently ABC is not completely unable to acknowledge their mistakes - - but again quoting "sources" so sprinkle with salt as you see fit - from tvline.com: Kelly Ripa‘s imminent return to the Live With Kelly and Michael hosts’ table was eased by a mea culpa from ABC and Disney executives, according to a new report.CNN’s Brian Stelter cites several sources who say that Disney-ABC Television Group president Ben Sherwood and his associates reached out to Ripa and her departing co-host Michael Strahan — and both hosts’ agents — to apologize for the way news of Strahan’s exit from the daytime chatfest was handled last week. Link to comment
KaveDweller April 25, 2016 Share April 25, 2016 I do find it interesting that between last week's episode and this week's, we've had suggestions of Caskett walking off into the sunset together. The biking across the country, the moving to Paris... I wonder if those are hints being laid out for a possible series finale, or if they're supposed to be a "This is what could have been if they hadn't gone after Loksat... but here, have a dead Beckett instead." This made me wonder what would have happened if Beckett chose not to go after Locksat in the premiere. Because Castle would likely still have started having flashbacks to his missing time, and still gone to LA and found the recording Hayley sent him. Castle and Beckett probably would have decided to go after him then. I read a fanfic back in the fall where Kate said she had no choice about Loksat because with their luck they would have eventually just come across him again anyway, and this way she was in control. It sounded like bs to me at the time, but it's probably what would have happened. Either way, dead Beckett makes me really sad. At least they never gave us a Caskett baby, because the idea of Kate's child having to grow up burdened by a murdered mother would make this 1,000 times worse. 2 Link to comment
WendyCR72 April 25, 2016 Share April 25, 2016 Either way, dead Beckett makes me really sad. At least they never gave us a Caskett baby, because the idea of Kate's child having to grow up burdened by a murdered mother would make this 1,000 times worse. Could be worse (maybe?): Castle could pull a Newhart and wake up from a dream and tell Martha and/or Alexis how he dreamed he was shadowing the NYPD and a female detective, etc. and how they ended up married. Basically the AU episode but in the "real" world and Beckett never existed to begin with... Link to comment
Nadine April 25, 2016 Share April 25, 2016 I scratch my head at the fact that the body doubles finished later than the main cast. They always do. It's called Insert Units filming. 2 Link to comment
Sara2009 April 26, 2016 Share April 26, 2016 Could be worse (maybe?): Castle could pull a Newhart and wake up from a dream and tell Martha and/or Alexis how he dreamed he was shadowing the NYPD and a female detective, etc. and how they ended up married. Basically the AU episode but in the "real" world and Beckett never existed to begin with... Would that actually be worse than what we're getting, though? At least in your scenario a new love interest for Castle would make more sense. 2 Link to comment
TWP April 26, 2016 Share April 26, 2016 They always do. It's called Insert Units filming. Way to dash my hope ;-). Could be worse (maybe?): Castle could pull a Newhart and wake up from a dream and tell Martha and/or Alexis how he dreamed he was shadowing the NYPD and a female detective, etc. and how they ended up married. Basically the AU episode but in the "real" world and Beckett never existed to begin with... Honestly, I think this would be the best not worst scenario. Link to comment
McManda April 26, 2016 Share April 26, 2016 After the bomb of Stana leaving I get no joy out of watching the new episodes. It just makes me sad, thinking about how much joy I got from the show and how it's likely going to be ruined in 4 episodes. Actually, it makes me more than sad. It almost makes me physically ill. And it's stupid that I feel that way about a TV show, but it is what it is. And it's not even that it's ending. If I could see any sort of happy ending I'd stay until the end. It would be sad and bittersweet, but I'd stay to watch. I think maybe the best course of action is to stop and not finish the season. I can't believe that I'd even think that, but I can't stand the idea of them killing off Beckett. Maybe I'll check in here to see how the season ends; if it's happy, I'll watch. I might even keep up via recaps with Castle S9 if Beckett is just offscreen for whatever reason. If they do kill Beckett, I won't and S7 will be my series finale. I always thought I'd be with Castle until the wheels fell off ... which I always assumed would be their cancellation or an announced series finale. I never thought the wheels would literally fall off and the show would fall apart. 9 Link to comment
371012 April 26, 2016 Share April 26, 2016 After watching anvils drop right and left tonight it is considerably harder to believe this was a big surprise to anyone but the audience... And, as McManda said, a LOT harder to watch. Link to comment
FlickerToAFlame April 26, 2016 Share April 26, 2016 I haven't seen the spoilers (besides here) that Beckett dies, are they (semi) reliable? I mean, maybe she doesn't die. Link to comment
BellyLaughter April 26, 2016 Share April 26, 2016 After watching anvils drop right and left tonight it is considerably harder to believe this was a big surprise to anyone but the audience... And, as McManda said, a LOT harder to watch. Yeah much more skeptical about all that shock on Twitter last week now.... Link to comment
WendyCR72 April 26, 2016 Share April 26, 2016 I haven't seen the spoilers (besides here) that Beckett dies, are they (semi) reliable? I mean, maybe she doesn't die. Nothing confirmed, no. That said, if there is a S9, I'm guessing Beckett and Castle divorce or...she does die. Since I'm guessing TPTB will want Castle freed up. Link to comment
Kromm April 26, 2016 Share April 26, 2016 (edited) I mostly find the dialogue accompanying any romantic Caskett scenes awkward and oftentimes as subtle as a flying brick. So if they don’t speak, it’s totally fine. I don’t follow the logic that Nathan is the bad guy here. Deadline announced the departure of Stana (she wasn’t approached to renew her contract) and Tamala. ABC claimed budgetary reasons. Stana’s management didn’t comment on the circumstances surrounding her exit (Stana left a positive message about Castle instead). Then the tabloids picked up the story throwing BTS issues with Nathan in. When asked, Stana’s management denied such a possibility and states that Stana has absolutely no problem with her colleague. So, you have to argue that Stana’s management lied on Stana’s behalf (why, they could have just stayed silent) or that Stana is a victim of her management and isn’t allowed to tell the truth. A truth which would come at quite an opportune time (with all the media coverage about Hollywood). Two scenarios I would rather find unlikely. Agents lie for their clients all of the time. But more importantly, what they most often do is parse the truth. If the statement was literally "Stana has no problem with her colleague(s)", that's a statement that's easily parseable as a half truth rather than a lie (the other deliberately unsaid part of the statement being "that doesn't mean a colleague doesn't have a problem with her"). Again, I'm not saying that's provably or definitely the case here (I don't even know exactly how they phrased their statement), but I've known many P.R. people in my life, and this is indeed how they work in a general sense--and talent agents are apparently even moreso like this from what I've always been told. ABC saying it was simply a budgetary thing seems fairly bullshitish. I'm not saying the show isn't possibly paying out more in salaries than they'd like relative to their ad revenue, but that's when you typically either renegotiate with the talent, or end the show. It could be argued that perhaps that's exactly what happened. For all we know Fillion may have agreed to a pay cut to keep the show on the air and Stana wouldn't. Entirely possible. However if it's really true they already have half a season of a new version of the show written without Stana, that makes that whole thing deeply suspicious. It seems hard to believe that Stana Katic would have hardlined them on a pay cut, then continued to come to work for months after that as if nothing had happened. I mean contractually she'd have to, but you'd think the rumors THEN would have leaned a different way. There should have been other attempts to win her over, I'd think, and not simply a decision many months ago until a magical leak that brought it all out in the open. And really if it WAS money, then it's a bit unbelievable that the two male detective characters are intact. Surely cutting BOTH of their salaries, plus the character of Laine would have equaled one Stana Katic, and left enough left over to hire a new cast member or two to fill out the police department? Or Susan Sullivan probably doesn't come cheap either, albeit she's not on every episode. It's got to be an EXTREME situation, I mean, to fire one of the two leads and pray the show survives, and I can't see Stana Katic having asked for so much money that it led to this. Edited April 26, 2016 by Kromm Link to comment
KaveDweller April 26, 2016 Share April 26, 2016 After watching anvils drop right and left tonight it is considerably harder to believe this was a big surprise to anyone but the audience... And, as McManda said, a LOT harder to watch. But keep in mind, they had lines talking about how Beckett was going to get herself killed at the end of season 4, and she survived that. They may have thought they were just teasing the audience? I don't know, it sucks either way. But I agree, so much harder to watch. Like I felt physical discomfort thinking about it. 1 Link to comment
McManda April 26, 2016 Share April 26, 2016 Previous season finals were easier to suggest because we knew that Castle, at its core leaned more to a comedy and all the cast, especially the main cast, still had contracts. That basically ensures everyone survives. Even when Beckett was shot everyone knew she wasn't going to die. This is different... there is no guarantee of anything regarding Beckett. Do they pull a McDreamy and kill heroically or do they let her go alive like Cristina. I fear the former... because that's what networks do. They go for the shock. I never thought I'd say, but I wish Marlowe was in charge of the finale. I'd feel more confident on the outcome. But thanks guys, for making me feel like I'm less alone in my sadness and disappointment. 4 Link to comment
Hipshooter April 26, 2016 Share April 26, 2016 Verdana I blame MilMar for starting the rot with their "respect the process", taking Beckett "down a peg" (argh!), Rogan and the Hamptons wedding that should have been, in hindsight 6.23 was ultimately the moment the show derailed. Truer words have never been spoken! I will not forgive nor will I forget that It was ultimately MilMar that penned "For Better or Worse" and later "The Time of Our Lives" Two P'sOS that derailed the series as nothing else possibly could. I can't help but believe that they knew and understood just how badly the fan base wanted a storybook wedding for their beloved DD. Furthermore I believe it was deliberate,vengeful and spiteful on their part. Why else would a creator totally ruin one of the best love stories ever written on network TV??? The show should have ended with "Veritas" if the wedding of the century was not to come off. The "Respect the process" comment by Miller infuriated loyal fans. The arrogant b***h !!! 3 Link to comment
KaveDweller April 26, 2016 Share April 26, 2016 Truer words have never been spoken! I will not forgive nor will I forget that It was ultimately MilMar that penned "For Better or Worse" and later "The Time of Our Lives" Two P'sOS that derailed the series as nothing else possibly could. I can't help but believe that they knew and understood just how badly the fan base wanted a storybook wedding for their beloved DD. What was wrong with Time of Our Lives? I loved that episode, and I loved the wedding they had. For Better or Worse is probably the worst episode of the series though. I don't know what they were thinking. Seriously, they must have been high when they came up with it. I do wonder if Marlowe left last year because he knew ABC was considering a Beckett-less spin off? He didn't leave for another show, which is kind of weird. 1 Link to comment
BellyLaughter April 26, 2016 Share April 26, 2016 It's interesting how often a shows creator ends up giving up creative control ... Is that the price you pay to get your show on the air?? Sell your soul to the devil?? I can't imagine this is how AWM would have wanted his story to end! Link to comment
KaveDweller April 26, 2016 Share April 26, 2016 It's interesting how often a shows creator ends up giving up creative control ... Is that the price you pay to get your show on the air?? Sell your soul to the devil?? I can't imagine this is how AWM would have wanted his story to end! Definitely not. But I bet he'll keep cashing the checks he gets from his creator credit. That must help a bit. Link to comment
WendyCR72 April 26, 2016 Share April 26, 2016 Strictly from a cost perspective would they really move the show to LA & build all new sets for 13 episodes? Technically, the show has been L.A. based from word go, doubling as NYC. If the setting moves to California, the show can just stop pretending altogether. Link to comment
TWP April 26, 2016 Share April 26, 2016 Technically, the show has been L.A. based from word go, doubling as NYC. If the setting moves to California, the show can just stop pretending altogether. I think Oberon was speaking of the cost of building new indoor sets....although Castle is a rich guy. I guess he could copy his New Yawk loft and PI Office on the West Coast. But the boys would need a new precinct. Link to comment
metaphor April 26, 2016 Share April 26, 2016 (edited) I feel you, McManda. Been looking forward to this episode for a while, but just felt sad watching it. I wish such a delightful show didn't have to come to an end this way. I guess this tweet from Nancy Kiu confirms that Hanning is done. @nancysan: #Castle fans, you ready to tune in tonight to @RobHanning 's hilarious and heartfelt last episode? Rumor is he just might live tweet... https://twitter.com/nancysan/status/724822681212833792 Edited April 26, 2016 by metaphor Link to comment
CheshireCat April 26, 2016 Share April 26, 2016 TWP, on 26 Apr 2016 - 12:48 AM, said:I think Oberon was speaking of the cost of building new indoor sets....although Castle is a rich guy. I guess he could copy his New Yawk loft and PI Office on the West Coast. But the boys would need a new precinct. Why would he move to LA (presumably to get away from all the memories) and then copy something which would remind him his time with Beckett every moment of his life? So, Hanning is more or less confirmed to be leaving... Interesting. Link to comment
Hipshooter April 26, 2016 Share April 26, 2016 (edited) Kave Dweller, with all due respect,I'm glad you loved "The Time of Our Lives". Since I enjoy your honest and upbeat take on our show,I'll attempt to respectfully explain why I didn't enjoy it. To save time I'm( respectfully) going to use "http://connect.nola.com/staff/julieboudwin/posts.html" Julie Boudwin's take to emphasize my own thoughts. I pray she will not mind. http://www.nola.com/tv/index.ssf/2014/11/abcs_castle_recap_caskett_wedd.html Episode six of season seven, titled "The Times of Our Lives," led Castle (Nathan Fillion) and Beckett (Stana Katic) not only to the altar, but also to an alternate universe where the duo had never met. In this bizarre reality, Beckett was captain of the 12th Precinct and Castle, well he hadn't had much recent success in writing. In fact, Castle's mother was more famous than the novelist. Seriously? I like Martha but... During the real-life case, Castle is caught holding an ancient artifact while simultaneously getting knocked out. When he comes around, he is in a reality where his life is completely different and he thinks the artifact brought him there. Completely overused plot line to say the least! Throughout much of the episode Castle is stuck in this dream world, where he is looking for this artifact that he believes will take him back to his world. But turns out, he wakes up in his real life just as he was shot in the chest in the alternate reality, which was eerily and purposely done to take viewers back to Beckett's shooting at the end of season three. Did we really need that reminder? I didn't. Strictly personal point for me. Once back to his normal life, Castle comes to the realization, or perhaps has a little inspiration, that he and Beckett should be married and it should happen now. Umm nooo....it should have happened in 6.23 The second wedding attempt for Caskett was simple, not much fuss, but perfectly and beautifully done. Back in the Hamptons, and only family in attendance, the duo said their own vows, which began with how "extraordinary" their lives have been since meeting each other. Family only attendance.....not the BIG WEDDING we all wanted and expected in 6.23. Just another part of my lack of forgiveness. Green screen background that was undeniably fake. Yes it was pretty but... less than "extraordinary" in my opinion, Beckett should have worn a WEDDING DRESS not the pant suit. Another strictly personal annoyance. Jim Beckett (HER FATHER) NEVER SPOKE A WORD!!!! Really? Gives his Daughter away and never speaks a word? I did enjoy the vows but they should have come in 6.23. Beckett added in her vow that Castle taught her how to look "forward to tomorrow's adventures," and many Caskett fans would agree with that notion. Those same fans can look forward to the adventures, which start with next week's episode, "Once Upon a Time in the West," where Castle and Beckett spend their honeymoon solving a murder at a Dude Ranch. "Dude Ranch"? The honeymoon was supposed to take place in "Tahiti" if memory serves. A promise to go later doesn't work for me. However I did actually like "Once Upon A Time In The West" Lagniappe: In the other reality or Castle's dream world (whatever you want to call it), Lanie (Tamala Jones) and Esposito (Jon Huertas) aren't together and Lanie has definitely moved on - she's pregnant. OMG can we insult these two any more?Kevin (Seamus Dever) and his wife never got married because he didn't have the time to devote to her after Beckett became captain. Filler inside filler,complete wast of time and irrelevant in the scheme of this episode.Castle's daughter, Alexis (Molly Quinn), lives in Los Angeles with her mom, plus her hair isn't red! More irrlevant filler.Surprise appearance by Jim Beckett (Scott Paulin), although he didn't even mutter a single line. His guest role was strictly to walk Beckett down the aisle. Insult added to injury to a relevant character in this whole story line.Castle learned that he and Beckett crossed paths long ago when she waited in line to get a book signed by him. Could that cherished reveal be any more disappointing? Also, Castle claims he would never sing "Let It Go," as a duet. ? There in lies the root of my discontent. It all falls on MilMar for this fan and I won't soon forget it. Edited April 26, 2016 by Hipshooter Link to comment
BellyLaughter April 26, 2016 Share April 26, 2016 Why would he move to LA (presumably to get away from all the memories) and then copy something which would remind him his time with Beckett every moment of his life? So, Hanning is more or less confirmed to be leaving... Interesting. Another little part of my Castle heart dies. :( 1 Link to comment
turnitwayup April 26, 2016 Author Share April 26, 2016 Hanning joined the show in s4 and had to deal with the increasing bts issues. So when he moved up the producers line all the way to the top in 4 seasons maybe he was expecting to be co running it with TPW for s8. I wonder if this was a disappointment to him to have a former producer/writer to become show runner when he was gone for 3 seasons. Maybe Hanning stuck around for this season since he thought it would be the end and now with the latest news he just felt it was time to jump ship off a sinking show. Since he's not show runner he coming off better than TPW/Hawley. Link to comment
metaphor April 26, 2016 Share April 26, 2016 Another little part of my Castle heart dies. :( I appreciate Hanning's writing, but seeing that I'm not planning to watch Castle after this season without Beckett, I'm not particularly bothered. Just another sign that a new season isn't worth coming back for. Terri Edda Miller tweeted this message to him after he signed out post live tweet: @TerriEdda: Thank you @RobHanning for... Well... You know. Link to comment
verdana April 26, 2016 Share April 26, 2016 Pity about Hanning, he was definitely one of their best writers and him jumping ship will further erode the show going forward because they desperately need to improve the writing. But since they're supposedly trying to cut costs may be TPTB are quite happy to see him leave, he's probably relieved to be leaving this mess behind, I hope he moves on to better things. Link to comment
BellyLaughter April 26, 2016 Share April 26, 2016 I appreciate Hanning's writing, but seeing that I'm not planning to watch Castle after this season without Beckett, I'm not particularly bothered. Just another sign that a new season isn't worth coming back for. Terri Edda Miller tweeted this message to him after he signed out post live tweet: @TerriEdda: Thank you @RobHanning for... Well... You know. Amen - just implode the core of the story and lose one of your best writers!! Why are they renewing this again?? Link to comment
verdana April 26, 2016 Share April 26, 2016 Castle 8x20 Promo "Much Ado About Murder" (HD) Link to comment
rspad April 26, 2016 Share April 26, 2016 Why are they renewing this again?? I'm holding out the slimmest of hopes that they ultimately won't, although signs are pointing that way. Yes, I know the argument about people's jobs, etc., but these last few eps are already so depressing to watch, I truly hope for an end to it so I can have some semblance of a good memory of the show's finale with all characters alive and well. 3 Link to comment
TWP April 26, 2016 Share April 26, 2016 Why would he move to LA (presumably to get away from all the memories) and then copy something which would remind him his time with Beckett every moment of his life? So, Hanning is more or less confirmed to be leaving... Interesting. If you look at the whole message thread (wish we had nested comments) Oberon asked why they would build new sets as LA for 13 episodes. I speculated that maybe they'll just use the old ones and pretend that Castle recreated New York apartment and PI office in LA, with the ultimate outcome of saving the show money in set building. I have no idea if Castle would want that. Maybe it would be comforting. LOL......or so the penny pinches at ABC might think. Link to comment
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