Glendenning September 27, 2019 Share September 27, 2019 that's a Very Special Episode topic itself - for example, that straight actors shouldn't play gay characters but gay actors should be allowed to play straight characters even though why should gay actors play straights. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/19860-who-turned-out-the-lights-sitcom-episodes-that-deal-with-darkheavy-topics/page/3/#findComment-5634333
piccadilly83 September 27, 2019 Share September 27, 2019 2 hours ago, methodwriter85 said: Didn't see it until I already posted it, sorry! Haha, no worries. It looks like I got some of the details wrong anyways. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/19860-who-turned-out-the-lights-sitcom-episodes-that-deal-with-darkheavy-topics/page/3/#findComment-5634582
Blergh February 28, 2020 Share February 28, 2020 (edited) In Boy Meets World the Season Four episode 'Cult Fiction' had the protagonist's pal Shawn Hunter eagerly buy the claims of the Fagin/Heaven's Gate type leader of this live-in cult called The Centre due to having been treated as expendable for much of his life by his actual parents. Cory and as well as the Matthews and Mr. Feeney all try to stress to him how they consider him a person of value for who he is. Mr. Turner makes a very impassioned speech about how joining this group would destroy his uniqueness and that it would be the worst decision of his life. Believe it or not, he still opts to join this cult despite Mr. Feeney telling the leader Mr. Mack that he'd been trying to shut the place down for years AND Mr. Matthews going so far as to tell Mr. Mack that he'd KILL him if he harmed Shawn due to Shawn being the best friend possible to his son. It's only when Shawn sees Mr. Turner unconscious in the hospital bed after a motorcycle accident that he sees that he DOES believe in God & asks God to heal Mr. Turner AND that his place is to be with those who sincerely care about HIM instead of just wanting to exploit him. It's a rather moving episode which gives good pause about why so many desperate folks who have been let down by their loved ones are so eager to join groups that tell them what they want to hear even to the point of totally sacrificing their individuality. Of course, it's rather frustrating in retrospect that, despite its ending of Shawn evidently wanting the best for his injured mentor, that's the very last time Mr. Turner is seen on the show with only a few passing references for the rest of the show's run. Yes, they later update his status on Girl Meets World but it's rather puzzling that they dropped this character and storyline like a hot potato the next season. This despite the fact that all the young performers have since stated that they enjoyed working with the performer Anthony Tyler Quinn and Mr. Quinn stating how he was PROUD of this role. Edited February 29, 2020 by Blergh fagin for shylock 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/19860-who-turned-out-the-lights-sitcom-episodes-that-deal-with-darkheavy-topics/page/3/#findComment-5970087
Ailianna May 3, 2020 Share May 3, 2020 On 9/10/2015 at 8:17 PM, Sandman87 said: Frasier managed to work in some heavier subject matter without being too blatant about it. There were several episodes that examined the situational ethics of being a licensed psychiatrist with a radio or TV show. If someone calls in for advice, does that make them a patient? Given that it's a broadcast radio show, is there still doctor-patient confidentiality? Would it be acceptable to date them? And what about listeners who don't call in but take your advice? Would they be considered patients? One of my favorite "heavy" Frasier episodes is "A Day in May" when Martin (Frasier's dad) disappears and no one seems to know where he is. He calls and tells them he went to the racetrack, but in real life he's sitting in a small gray room, talking cryptically with a middle aged woman, whom he apparently meets this way every year. It turns out to be the parole hearing for the man who shot Martin right before the series begins, when Martin was a police officer who tried to stop an armed robbery. It was handled delicately, and even though Martin obviously made a point of being at the hearing, he opts not to make a statement. John Mahoney's expressions throughout speak more eloquently than any script could. 16 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/19860-who-turned-out-the-lights-sitcom-episodes-that-deal-with-darkheavy-topics/page/3/#findComment-6103358
Annber03 May 3, 2020 Share May 3, 2020 Great call. I love that storyline, too. It's so powerful and heartbreaking-on both ends. I also really liked the way that show discussed things like the fear of death and aging in its more serious moments. There was an episode where Eddie was sad, and that led everyone else to try and figure out why he was sad, which led them to start thinking about the things that were bothering them, which turned into a pretty weighty discussion of the subject of death. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/19860-who-turned-out-the-lights-sitcom-episodes-that-deal-with-darkheavy-topics/page/3/#findComment-6103376
Annber03 October 30, 2021 Share October 30, 2021 Came upon this thread again while poking around these forums, and bumping it to add United States of Al to the list, as it most certainly qualifies for this thread. From discussing the struggle involving interpreters waiting for visas to come to the States, to the recent season premiere that dealt with the Taliban takeover in Afghanistan this past summer, to exploration of one's struggle with mental health issues and the importance of getting the help and support one needs for such things, this show has been quite bold in addressing so many important, serious topics thus far, and ones that don't always get the kind of attention they deserve at that. And they've been doing so incredibly well with all of it thus far, too - there's an honesty and sincerity and sensitivity about it all that I really appreciate. 1 13 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/19860-who-turned-out-the-lights-sitcom-episodes-that-deal-with-darkheavy-topics/page/3/#findComment-7088899
Stats Queen October 30, 2021 Share October 30, 2021 13 hours ago, Annber03 said: Came upon this thread again while poking around these forums, and bumping it to add United States of Al to the list, as it most certainly qualifies for this thread. From discussing the struggle involving interpreters waiting for visas to come to the States, to the recent season premiere that dealt with the Taliban takeover in Afghanistan this past summer, to exploration of one's struggle with mental health issues and the importance of getting the help and support one needs for such things, this show has been quite bold in addressing so many important, serious topics thus far, and ones that don't always get the kind of attention they deserve at that. And they've been doing so incredibly well with all of it thus far, too - there's an honesty and sincerity and sensitivity about it all that I really appreciate. I totally agree. I am very impressed with this show. They deal with lots of important topics so well and so real. They really highlight serious things in a wonderful way. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/19860-who-turned-out-the-lights-sitcom-episodes-that-deal-with-darkheavy-topics/page/3/#findComment-7089672
Bookish Jen November 1, 2021 Share November 1, 2021 I'm so happy that United States of Al has been brought up. When it comes to mental health issues, TV/movies portray it in such a negative light. Either the person is completely off the rails and can't function, or they are a murderous criminal. United States of Al shows that people who have mental health issues can be kind, smart, educated, and functioning members of society. As someone who has dealt with depression, anxiety, and PTSD, I'm so glad this shows handles this topic in a sensitive and empathetic way, while bringing some humor. 1 11 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/19860-who-turned-out-the-lights-sitcom-episodes-that-deal-with-darkheavy-topics/page/3/#findComment-7092426
Fool to cry January 17, 2022 Share January 17, 2022 (edited) The shortlived Dana Carvey Show aired in 1995. Featured in it's cast future stars Steve Carrell and Stephen Colbert and head writer Rob Smigel(Triumph the Insult Comic Dog). ABC debuted the rather risque sketch show after family friendly Home Improvement which turned out not to be the best fit. Especially when the latter aired an episode where middle son Randy(Jonathan Taylor Thomas) had a cancer scare: Edited January 17, 2022 by Fool to cry 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/19860-who-turned-out-the-lights-sitcom-episodes-that-deal-with-darkheavy-topics/page/3/#findComment-7236098
Bastet January 17, 2022 Share January 17, 2022 I didn't watch either show, but that video with everyone laughing at the juxtaposition in the promo is hilarious! 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/19860-who-turned-out-the-lights-sitcom-episodes-that-deal-with-darkheavy-topics/page/3/#findComment-7236135
Bethany October 12, 2022 Share October 12, 2022 Fans of Big Bang Theory knew that Young Sheldon would have to deal with some pretty grim subject matter eventually and I think we were bracing ourselves for an adultery storyline and, of course the eventual death of George. However I don't think we were expecting things to play out quite as they have! We've got job losses for both parents, Mary losing her place within her Church community and most of all the idiotic pregnancy storyline that has been playing out for a few months now. To quote Penny from Big Bang "Yeah. Is it a comedy, is it a drama? Nobody knows!" 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/19860-who-turned-out-the-lights-sitcom-episodes-that-deal-with-darkheavy-topics/page/3/#findComment-7697597
Thomas Crown October 15, 2022 Share October 15, 2022 The WKRP episodes previously mentioned are great ones. I loved that show. I'd like to add to the list the "Alf Christmas special" from the late 80's. For a sitcom featuring an Alien that always getting into wacky trouble every episode, this one was truly a different kind of episode dealing with suicide and a terminally ill young girl on Christmas Eve. 3 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/19860-who-turned-out-the-lights-sitcom-episodes-that-deal-with-darkheavy-topics/page/3/#findComment-7702709
magicdog October 15, 2022 Share October 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Thomas Crown said: "Alf Christmas special" I remember seeing this when it first aired! Broke my heart that Spoiler Tiffany died, but a new baby born shortly after, got the name!! 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/19860-who-turned-out-the-lights-sitcom-episodes-that-deal-with-darkheavy-topics/page/3/#findComment-7702826
Spartan Girl October 15, 2022 Share October 15, 2022 Oh God the ALF Christmas special. That moment destroyed me. Kudos to the puppeteers for effectively displaying the sadness on his face when he found out about Tiffany, and the way he cried when he left her. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/19860-who-turned-out-the-lights-sitcom-episodes-that-deal-with-darkheavy-topics/page/3/#findComment-7702984
Blergh July 28 Share July 28 (edited) While All in the Family had its share of dark episodes, its hard to top the one called 'Archie is Branded' (1973) in which a swastika gets painted on the Bunker front door and it appears that Archie is somehow the mistaken target of anti-Semites. Anyway, an activist Paul Benjamin (played by, of all performers, Gregory Sierra) shows up to urge Archie to fight fire with fire. It has some lighter moments such as when they think a mailed package possibly may be a bomb- only to soak it and find out that its contents had had been imported cigars intended for Archie AND that Edith with her kitchen egg timer inside her smock pocket had been standing too close to the package! Oh, and also Mr. Benjamin calls Archie 'Bubi' (which means 'baby' in German and often used as pet name in German-speaking households). However after Mr. Benjamin decamps the Bunker household (and immediately Archie and Edith have a comical routine about the meaning of shalom), a loud explosion heard. ..and the Four run to their front door to open it in shock with Archie exclaiming 'Holy Cheez! They blew up Paul in his CAR!' and THAT was the end of the episode. Yep not only was there nothing about anyone contacting the police etc. but, despite the man having been killed in his car that had been parked in front of Casa Bunker in broad daylight, no one mentioned what the entire neighborhood had to have witnessed having happened or any aftermath- EVER! It shook me up as a pre-teen seeing it broadcast for the first time (and it threw both my parents for a loop) and it still disturbs me over a half-century later recalling it! Edited July 28 by Blergh 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/19860-who-turned-out-the-lights-sitcom-episodes-that-deal-with-darkheavy-topics/page/3/#findComment-8421829
Annber03 July 29 Share July 29 Yeah, that episode was startling. And then of course there's the one with Edith's 50th birthday... Good to see this thread bumped, 'cause I'd like to include the episode "Holes are Bad" from this past season of Ghosts. The reveal of how Hetty died Spoiler via suicide is tragic and heartbreaking, and the fact that storyline and reveal is balanced against an incredilby heartwarming reunion makes it all the more poignant. The show even had a number at the end for viewers to call and everything. 6 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/19860-who-turned-out-the-lights-sitcom-episodes-that-deal-with-darkheavy-topics/page/3/#findComment-8422084
kathyk2 July 29 Share July 29 20 hours ago, Annber03 said: Yeah, that episode was startling. And then of course there's the one with Edith's 50th birthday... Good to see this thread bumped, 'cause I'd like to include the episode "Holes are Bad" from this past season of Ghosts. The reveal of how Hetty died Hide contents via suicide is tragic and heartbreaking, and the fact that storyline and reveal is balanced against an incredilby heartwarming reunion makes it all the more poignant. The show even had a number at the end for viewers to call and everything. Rebecca Wisocki and Ghosts deserved an Emmy for that episode. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/19860-who-turned-out-the-lights-sitcom-episodes-that-deal-with-darkheavy-topics/page/3/#findComment-8422940
Bastet July 30 Share July 30 (edited) 20 hours ago, kathyk2 said: Rebecca Wisocki and Ghosts deserved an Emmy for that episode. At least a nomination for Wisocky! I did not find season three as great as the first two, but still good (especially for a season shortened by AMTPT's refusal to resolve the strike sooner, and one in which one cast member was on maternity leave and one whose pregnancy had to be shot around) and that particular episode and the finale fired on all cylinders. A series has to submit six eligible episodes for consideration, though, and they didn't have six of those ten episodes deserving of an Emmy for show or writing, fine (although I'd have still liked to see a nomination, even if it wasn't going to win). But actors only have to submit one episode, and I can't imagine a world in which Wisocky submitted anything other than that episode for consideration, so I was greatly disappointed when she was not nominated -- her performance required both the usual comedy and a far greater degree of drama than is typical for an actor in the Comedy categories and she nailed both. Anyway, yes, specific to the topic, the episode was a terrific example. The show has dealt with personal issues dramatically before, like confronting a parent and learning of a spouse's infidelity, but Hetty's reflection on the reasons for her choice and her regret over it was a departure, and very well done. I re-watched the season as a whole only once, but that episode alone several times. Edited July 30 by Bastet 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/19860-who-turned-out-the-lights-sitcom-episodes-that-deal-with-darkheavy-topics/page/3/#findComment-8423464
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