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5 hours ago, Carolina Girl said:

I wondered if there was some agreement at the time that if anything happened that Ariana's half would be determined before the payment of the HELOC or whatever and that Tom would get what was left over. E.g., the House sells for $4MM; they have a profit of say $2MM.  Ariana would be entitled to $1MM.  However, since the HELOC has to be paid before disbursement,  if it was, say, $750K or whatever, that would leave $1.25MM.  Since Ariana is entitled to $1MM as the HELOC was for Tom's business, Tom only gets the $250,000 left.  

I'm sure Tommy Turd agreed to it at the time because he never thought Ariana would be kicking him to the curb.  

We have no idea what agreements they had regarding the house, but Ariana, at least on the show appeared to be too trusting.

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2 hours ago, Wicked said:

And now Sandoval is NOT suing Ariana

 If you read his statement, he claims he was given unsound legal advice and has since removed his lawyer.  Come on.  Does he think we were born yesterday?  It's 100% cause he got so much blowback from EVERYONE (Bravo, partners at Schwartz & Sandy's, prob the entire VPR fanbase).  He is exhausting.  

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On 7/17/2024 at 5:17 PM, ZettaK said:

The show was done, that's why he sued. It was obvious when Bravo showed a retrospect.

Oh I meant like permanently done, not just a pause!  I don't think the network has put forth any definitive answer.

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19 minutes ago, Marigold66 said:

Oh I meant like permanently done, not just a pause!  I don't think the network has put forth any definitive answer.

Bravo says it's on pause, but who knows? It might get canceled, or rebooted. 

4 hours ago, Marigold66 said:

 If you read his statement, he claims he was given unsound legal advice and has since removed his lawyer.  Come on.  Does he think we were born yesterday?  It's 100% cause he got so much blowback from EVERYONE (Bravo, partners at Schwartz & Sandy's, prob the entire VPR fanbase).  He is exhausting.  

He says he received unsound legal advice, but I bet it was unsound PR advice.

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5 hours ago, ZettaK said:

Bravo says it's on pause, but who knows? It might get canceled, or rebooted. 

He says he received unsound legal advice, but I bet it was unsound PR advice.

Having Sandoval as a client must be exhausting.

Having coked out Sandoval as a client must be a nightmare.

And I feel like I should sue Ariana for getting me addicted to Love Island USA.

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I am still 100% convinced this show is not cancelled.  It might sputter pathetically for another season, but RIGHT NOW, especially with all this off-season drama?  There are viewers, there are advertisers, and there is money on the table, and BRAVO - if smart - wont' just leave it there for one more go-around.  If I was a betting man I'd go heavy in with this break being a break and not a cancellation.

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5 hours ago, ZettaK said:

He says he received unsound legal advice, but I bet it was unsound PR advice.

My guess is he received unsound legal advice from one of his idiot circle who's BF delivers UPS to a law office.  

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2 hours ago, bosawks said:

Having Sandoval as a client must be exhausting.

Having coked out Sandoval as a client must be a nightmare.

And I feel like I should sue Ariana for getting me addicted to Love Island USA.

Right there with you, lol!

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Photos of Jax in the past (when he was a lot younger, not around the time he joined VR), and now. I think somebody was wondering why so many women went after him. 

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10 hours ago, ZettaK said:

Photos of Jax in the past (when he was a lot younger, not around the time he joined VR), and now. I think somebody was wondering why so many women went after him. 

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Wow - all those nose jobs he had were really a waste of time and money - I see no difference at all 😄

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On 7/17/2024 at 7:27 AM, Wicked said:

[eye roll]

Can I sue Sandoval for medical bills due to eye damage? 

 

On 7/17/2024 at 4:13 PM, politichick said:

Schwartz must be fuming mad. I read that angry Ariana fans are expressing their ire on the S&S site.

I can imagine Schwartz is sick and tired of idiots using S&S's site to vent their anger. 

On 7/17/2024 at 5:17 PM, ZettaK said:

The show was done, that's why he sued. It was obvious when Bravo showed a retrospect.

We thought the same thing last year, right before Scandoval broke.

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On 7/18/2024 at 11:58 PM, ZettaK said:

Bravo says it's on pause

I refuse to believe the excuse that Ariana is not available.  I could be wrong, but she's made it clear that she's not going to continue this interaction with Tom bullshit and probably wants that specifically noted in any contract.  

 

On 7/18/2024 at 11:58 PM, ZettaK said:

Bravo says it's on pause, but who knows? It might get canceled, or rebooted. 

He says he received unsound legal advice, but I bet it was unsound PR advice.

I said earlier that there was something hickey in all this since the Gerragos firm is adverse to his interests in the Leviss lawsuit.  So it wouldn't surprise me if he got bad legal advice from them.  I wonder if they approached HIM to file this stupid suit against Ariana - after all, why didn't he just have the attorney representing him in the Leviss suit file the action and not the Gerragos.

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On 7/20/2024 at 1:32 AM, ZettaK said:

Photos of Jax in the past (when he was a lot younger, not around the time he joined VR), and now. I think somebody was wondering why so many women went after him. 

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Jax was smoking hot. 

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14 hours ago, Carolina Girl said:

I refuse to believe the excuse that Ariana is not available.  I could be wrong, but she's made it clear that she's not going to continue this interaction with Tom bullshit and probably wants that specifically noted in any contract.  

 

I said earlier that there was something hickey in all this since the Gerragos firm is adverse to his interests in the Leviss lawsuit.  So it wouldn't surprise me if he got bad legal advice from them.  I wonder if they approached HIM to file this stupid suit against Ariana - after all, why didn't he just have the attorney representing him in the Leviss suit file the action and not the Gerragos.

Celebrity attorneys, or well known attorneys who represent specific kind of cases approach potential clients. Do you remember Gloria Allred? She did it.

Sandoval claimed he thought the lawsuit against Ariana was part of the previous case (the revenge porn one). 

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On 6/25/2024 at 3:16 PM, princelina said:

Oh no!  You're heading into the season where she refers to the gruesome and hideous Brett as her "best friend" 🤢

Y'all better stop laughing... your numbers are drawing ever closer, and before you know it, you'll be Scheana's best friend next. ;)

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On 7/20/2024 at 11:35 PM, ZettaK said:

Penny Davidi sued now, but she said that she was promised a percentage of the profit, etc. in the past, and Lisa Vanderpump claimed she knew about it, as well. There is supposedly an email exchange. 

If the email exchange is just between Penny and Vanderpump I would not be shocked.

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1 hour ago, Jel said:

Y'all better stop laughing... your numbers are drawing ever closer, and before you know it, you'll be Scheana's best friend next. ;)

I will never be - I'm not a hot male douchebag! 😂

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On 7/20/2024 at 11:35 PM, ZettaK said:

Penny Davidi sued now, but she said that she was promised a percentage of the profit, etc. in the past, and Lisa Vanderpump claimed she knew about it, as well. There is supposedly an email exchange. 

Wasn't this the "celebrity chef" they hired for the sandwich shop who then trademarked its name for herself? 

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2 hours ago, Gharlane said:

Wasn't this the "celebrity chef" they hired for the sandwich shop who then trademarked its name for herself? 

"I looked at the trademark, and the trademark is owned by Penny, the lady they hired," Brock says in the Vanderpump Rules Season 11 After Show video above. "The trademark is owned by her husband, ladies and gentlemen — which means the sandwich brand is owned by Penny and her husband, who is an attorney, a litigator."

If this happened, is it probably because Penny thought she was a partner, although a minor one? She claims she was offered a percentage of the business. It seems she was also doing everything. Ariana was traveling for her career and was not involved at all.

https://www.bravotv.com/the-daily-dish/ariana-katie-trademark-drama-penny-something-about-her

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13 hours ago, bosawks said:

If the email exchange is just between Penny and Vanderpump I would not be shocked.

Penny Davidi says in her lawsuit that she has a written partnership from June 2023 with Ariana Madix and Katie Maloney.

On Thursday, celebrity chef Penny Davidi filed a lawsuit against Madix and her co-owner slash Vanderpump Rules co-star, Katie Maloney, claiming that the duo violated the terms of a written partnership with Davidi from June 2023. In legal documents reviewed by the Cut, Davidi — who works under an LLC called Put a Fork in It — claimed she was promised 10 percent ownership of the shop, a $7,500-per-month payment until January 2024, then $10,000 per month after that, and a COO/director of culinary title. Though she did not clarify what piece of this agreement Madix and Maloney have reneged on, she claims they have “repudiated the existence and terms of the Partnership as alleged herein.” 

https://www.thecut.com/article/ariana-madix-lawsuits-tom-sandoval-something-about-her.html#:~:text=On Thursday%2C celebrity chef Penny,with Davidi from June 2023.

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5 hours ago, ZettaK said:

"I looked at the trademark, and the trademark is owned by Penny, the lady they hired," Brock says in the Vanderpump Rules Season 11 After Show video above. "The trademark is owned by her husband, ladies and gentlemen — which means the sandwich brand is owned by Penny and her husband, who is an attorney, a litigator."

It sounds shady to me.

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38 minutes ago, Gharlane said:

It sounds shady to me.

Same. Penny's talking out of both sides of her mouth. In one breath, she's claiming she was hired as a consultant and due a monthly rate. In the next, she claims to be a partner, owed a share of the proceeds. Added in, the shadiness of having her husband filing the trademark patent under her LLC vs. the actual business entity.

It screams a scam to me and it's disheartening to know that LVP was involved. They preyed on the girls' naïvety in the restaurant industry for money/control.

I also think it's funny how Penny claims that she did all the work and aren't paying her for it while simultaneously criticizing all of their choices: the food, the bread, the menu & design, etc. Doesn't that undercut her claim that they stole her ideas?

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The sandwich shop has been sketchy from day 1.  They had the idea, approached Rand at a "business meeting" where he promised to give them lots of money in exchange for a sandwich named after him.  Next season the only thing that had happened was Rand cheated on "Lala" so they didn't need his stinkin money.  Lisa found them a location.  Maybe that season they had a platter of sandwiches from Penny to pass out on the show.  Season ends and nothing happens until the next season.  Scandoval happens and they sell merch.  Even if Lisa and Penny were up to no good, it was probably just to make this sandwich shop exist.

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I'm not sure I find this description at all compelling of abnormal business practices.

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On 7/23/2024 at 6:25 AM, Gharlane said:

It sounds shady to me.

It does appear strange. I understand that perhaps an attorney (Penny's husband is an attorney) could get a patent for a client (like Ariana and  Katie), but not to get this patent in his name. Is it possible Brock was confused? 

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On 5/15/2024 at 10:36 AM, RealHousewife said:

I saw an episode recently where Lisa had a one-on-one business meeting with some guy, and she showed a ton of cleavage. It was a lot, even for her. Maybe it's just normal in that circle or in LA.

It might be in Philadelphia.

 

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Vanderpump Villa is hands down one of the WORST shows I’ve ever attempted to watch.  How did it get another season?  Is Stassi coming on as a guest or as a waitress??

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I read something that made me think Stassi was being hired as a "manager," or something. That she wouldn't be coming in as a brand new contestant, or whatever they have on this show I have not (and will not) watch. 

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11 hours ago, Gharlane said:

I don't care one way or another,  but isn't VV about successful businesswoman Lisa Vanderbucks hired help, or candidates for a job? 🤔

 

Yes. But Stassi also has her own show on Hulu- Stassi Says. It's a comedic reality show. Do we really care about what Stassi has to say?

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On 8/12/2024 at 6:35 AM, heatherchandler said:

Vanderpump Villa is hands down one of the WORST show I’ve ever attempted to watch.  How did it get another season?  Is Stassi coming on as a guest or as a waitress??

I didn't even make it through ONE episode.

16 hours ago, ZettaK said:

Yes. But Stassi also has her own show on Hulu- Stassi Says. It's a comedic reality show. Do we really care about what Stassi has to say?

Nope.  Didn't care then.....don't care now. 

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On 8/12/2024 at 8:35 AM, heatherchandler said:

Vanderpump Villa is hands down one of the WORST show I’ve ever attempted to watch.  How did it get another season?  Is Stassi coming on as a guest or as a waitress??

I thankfully didn't watch the show but all I heard was how awful it was.  One of the hosts of the podcast "Watch What Crappens" went on a long rant about how terrible it was so I didn't even bother giving it a try.  Honestly, I'm not a huge Lisa fan and feel she's not even needed on VPR; even though her name is in the title. 

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7 hours ago, heatherchandler said:

Good lord he’s facing 3 to 30 years!  He is a loser, and a weirdo.  Not for trafficking drugs, shouldn’t that be legal, since the drugs are legal..?  but he’s just creepy.

They're not legal here, but that's on the ballot this November.

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I don’t even consider weed a drug lol but Jeremy is such a loser creep. I have never liked him on the show. He always gave me predator vibes too. What a moron too thinking they could just get on an international flight with that much weed.

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11 hours ago, Gharlane said:

They're not legal here, but that's on the ballot this November.

For some reason I thought it was legal throughout the US, I guess not.  I have to laugh at the stupidity of thinking he could just pack up that much weed and waltz onto the plane.

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15 hours ago, Gharlane said:

They're not legal here, but that's on the ballot this November.

Yes, only medical marijuana is legal in Florida. I live in SE Florida. 

3 hours ago, heatherchandler said:

For some reason I thought it was legal throughout the US, I guess not.  I have to laugh at the stupidity of thinking he could just pack up that much weed and waltz onto the plane.

It's not. Medical marijuana is legal in Florida, and some other states, not all. 

He is an idiot. Three suitcases, and flying to Germany!

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