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S01.E12: Murphy's Law

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ottoDbusdriver

ottoDbusdriver

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Did anyone else find the audio on the clip weird ?  I couldn't hear Citizen Z at all.

 

Murphy basically being Murphy -- a colossal dick.

 

The existence of a working webcam connected to a working Internet that can be accessed via satellite by Citizen Z, not to mention the roadside traffic camera, after 3 years into the zombie apocalypse -- still boggles the mind.  Even with a solar panel powering it, what would that webcam connect to ? Or if it would even be turned on.

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editorgrrl

editorgrrl

Drug-enhanced zombies -- are the zombies hopped up on hillbilly heroin?? How exactly?

This is your zombie. This is your zombie on drugs. Any questions?

Three years into the ZA, Oxycontin seems to be currency. (So are bullets.) Didn't the rapists in "Sisters of Mercy" have a bagful?

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ottoDbusdriver

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I'm trying to figure out how the Zs were getting at the drugs if the drugs were behind a closed door and still all sealed in the boxes. Let alone why the Zs were even eating the drugs -- that really makes no sense. But even if they did eat any drugs they would have worn off a long time ago unless they were eating them every day.  Plus, Viagra works on controlling blood flow and Zs are dead and they have no blood pressure, so how does that work.

 

That latch on the gate was ridiculously flimsy and wouldn't have kept ritalined-up Zs from breaking out.

 

Here's my question -- can Murphy only mind control people who have drank his spit or that he has bitten as all 3 of the new comers apparently did ?  Or can he mind control anybody ?

 

That woman couldn't kill her zombie husband, so she let him bite and kill her -- because that makes SO MUCH sense.

 

Why were those 3 survivors even at the golf course in the first place ? That made no sense as it was a lousy place to try and defend (way too much glass in the clubhouse).

 

I am thankfull we didn't see the viagra-zombies!

 

I'm just thankful the viagra-Zs all had pants on. </snark>

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SoSueMe

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I'm trying to figure out how the Zs were getting at the drugs if the drugs were behind a closed door and still all sealed in the boxes. Let alone why the Zs were even eating the drugs -- that really makes no sense. But even if they did eat any drugs they would have worn off a long time ago unless they were eating them every day.  Plus, Viagra works on controlling blood flow and Zs are dead and they have no blood pressure, so how does that work.

 

That latch on the gate was ridiculously flimsy and wouldn't have keep ritalined-up Zs from breaking out.

 

Here's my question -- can Murphy only mind control people who have drank his spit or that he has bitten as all 3 of the new comers apparently did ?  Or can he mind control anybody ?

 

That woman couldn't kill her zombie husband, so she let him bite and kill her -- because that makes SO MUCH sense.

 

Why were those 3 survivors even at the golf course in the first place ? That made no sense as it was a lousy place to try and defend (way too much glass in the clubhouse).

 

 

 

 

I'm just thankful the viagra-Zs all had pants on. </snark>

This is why it is a cheesy, fun SyFy show. I just buckle up, suspend disbelief and go for the ride :)

 

I put my thinking cap on for other shows, lol.

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ottoDbusdriver

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I'm a little confused -- last episode the gang all reconnected in the Salt Lake City area and then ended up at the Sisters of Mercy commune in southern Utah.   But at the start of this episode they are driving through South Park, Colorado which is near Denver. There is a throwaway line early in the episode when someone asks if they have heard from Mack or Addie and the consensus is no one has heard from them, while Roberta's heart says yes they will reconnect, her mind says no.

 

Which makes me think that these episodes have been aired out of order.  It would explain why they skipped from South Dakota to Utah so quickly last episode.  It also explains why Mack/Addie are absent this episode and why they have Citizen Z still searching for Mack/Addie -- since they still think they are still separated from the Zunami episode vs. knowing that they are most likely still at the Sisters of Mercy commune (and that Mack is probably dead).  It's not like this episode had a bunch of CGI or anything fancy that would have delayed its production (and skew the broadcast order).  Cassandra has a wounded leg, but it doesn't seem to be infected -- yet -- but seems to get worse by the end of the episode, which also puts it before last episode when should couldn't walk without assistance.

 

Then again, the preview for next week mentions Fort Collins, Colorado -- the place where Dr, Merch's trail went cold -- so who the hell knows for sure, but they are headed the wrong way if they are supposed to going to Cali.

 

And the dog still doesn't have a name.

 

Heck, I'm still amazed when they dress zombies in hats.  Really ? After years outside exposed to the elements their hats would still be on.

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wayne67

wayne67

Murphy for the win. With new mind control powers over anyone that has been exposed to a scratch bite or saliva.

 

It does feel like this episode was out of sequence though.

 

I'm looking forward to the finale to see what new randomness comes out.

 

I loved 10K's reaction to the Viagra Z's.

 

Sure there were a few plot holes especially to motivation. What was stopping Murphy from shacking up with his own army of zombies once inside the facility? Why didn't that gang just keep picking off the zombies with sniper shots or something instead of relying on a kidnapped Murphy. Why didn't they just team up with the extra 5 people to wage a large scale seige on the place. It's a whole factory of drugs I'm sure they'd still be rich with sharing their conquest. Oh well another bunch of survivors dead through stupidity

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LexiconDevilOne

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LOL, Murphy. Viagra zombies. Thank God they spared us a visual of that.

This show is so polar opposite of The Walking Dead. I can suspend belief, and laugh at the stupidity. Instead of yelling at my TV about 'plot holes.' I'm bummed next week is the season finale...

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Heck, I'm still amazed when they dress zombies in hats. Really ? After years outside exposed to the elements their hats would still be on.

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Neither would their clothes. Both, this show and TWD want us to believe that the zombies/walkers would still be fully clothed in barely tattered clothing, complete with shoes.

I try to suspend this, obvious, plot hole for both shows.

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MrHufflepuff

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Hey, 10K, I think i have something um.. sharp... in my back pocket.  Oh, it's not in the back pocket?  Try the other one.  Um, not there either, huh?  Well, try the front pocket.  Not there either?  Oh, well shoot.  Try the other front pocket?  What?  Oh, silly me.  Let's check my back pocket again...

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ottoDbusdriver

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Good theory on the out of order episodes. I wonder who would make that decision?

 

Because if these were shown out of order, Murphy should have totally been able to mind control the blonde woman from Sisters of Mercy episode, because I'm assuming she and Murphy swapped many body fluids.

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SoSueMe

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Because if these were shown out of order, Murphy should have totally been able to mind control the blonde woman from Sisters of Mercy episode, because I'm assuming she and Murphy swapped many body fluids.

Good catch.

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MrHufflepuff

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I'm wondering about Murphy's mind control powers, and they didn't just seem to limit him to being able to implant suggestions in the infected people (like he was doing with that woman who's cop-husband was killed).  It seems like he straight-up has non-verbal mind control powers.  Maybe he's like a queen ant and gives off chemical signals that can control the infected?  Because, otherwise, we're into Starchild territory already and nobody wants that.

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editorgrrl

editorgrrl

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I'm a little confused -- last episode the gang all reconnected in the Salt Lake City area and then ended up at the Sisters of Mercy commune in southern Utah. But at the start of this episode they are driving through South Park, Colorado which is near Denver.

Loved the shoutout to South Park.

TPTB anticipated our geographical confusion, and included a promo touting the "Journey for the Cure" feature at znation.syfy.com. (I can't see it on my phone, but I think there's a map.)

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Latverian Diplomat

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Wow, Murphy's got powers!

 

I am thankfull we didn't see the viagra-zombies!

 

 

LOL, Murphy. Viagra zombies. Thank God they spared us a visual of that.

 

Standards and Practices says, "You're welcome. And hey, next time, don't be so quick to mock the use of 'melonfarmer' as an insult. We are the watchers on the walls."     :-)

 

Which makes me think that these episodes have been aired out of order. 

 

Definitely out of order. I don't know if they thought the Black Friday episode might get fewer viewers, and thought last week's was better, or more essential (I don't see either reason holding up).  Going from Utah to Colorado and back is a little confusing for casual viewers, but I don't see how this reordering helps with that, and I can't believe they won't have Citizen Z calling an audible on their destination at the top of the next episode anyway, to explain the backtracking.

 

The good guys went from having no ammo to plenty with no real explanation. Including the variety of handguns and 10K's rifle; I'm not a gun person, but there is probably more than one type of ammo there.

 

Murphy's new power seems unnecessary, and not a clear offshoot of his weird hybrid status. He's telepathically transmitting commands. That's a whole new violation of physics & neurology. Zombies, and apocalypse tropes like gasoline that's still good after 3+ years of sitting around in van's gas tank are suspension of disbelief enough already, IMHO.

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Ohwell

Ohwell

Aside from the nasty-looking skin, Murphy's actually not a bad-looking guy.  Although I still can't get over being disgusted by the blonde pie lady licking his nasty wounds, I can see why she gave him some...uummm....pie.

 

This week we had ADHD zombies and Viagra zombies.  How will the writers top themselves next week?  Stripper zombies maybe?

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Ubiquitous

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I was wondering why they went from UT to CO, the wrong direction and why they seemed totally unphased by what happened to Mack and Addie (or were in REALLY deep denial) and why Citizen Z didn't seem to notice or care about their absence and was wasting time looking for them (and why no confirmed Addie was "off the grid") but the eps being out of order makes most sense.

 

Here's my question -- can Murphy only mind control people who have drank his spit or that he has bitten as all 3 of the new comers apparently did ?  Or can he mind control anybody ?

I thought he could mind control anyone.

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Racj82

Racj82

I'm a little confused -- last episode the gang all reconnected in the Salt Lake City area and then ended up at the Sisters of Mercy commune in southern Utah. But at the start of this episode they are driving through South Park, Colorado which is near Denver. There is a throwaway line early in the episode when someone asks if they have heard from Mack or Addie and the consensus is no one has heard from them, while Roberta's heart says yes they will reconnect, her mind says no.

Which makes me think that these episodes have been aired out of order. It would explain why they skipped from South Dakota to Utah so quickly last episode. It also explains why Mack/Addie are absent this episode and why they have Citizen Z still searching for Mack/Addie -- since they still think they are still separated from the Zunami episode vs. knowing that they are most likely still at the Sisters of Mercy commune (and that Mack is probably dead). It's not like this episode had a bunch of CGI or anything fancy that would have delayed its production (and skew the broadcast order). Cassandra has a wounded leg, but it doesn't seem to be infected -- yet -- but seems to get worse by the end of the episode, which also puts it before last episode when should couldn't walk without assistance.

Then again, the preview for next week mentions Fort Collins, Colorado -- the place where Dr, Merch's trail went cold -- so who the hell knows for sure, but they are headed the wrong way if they are supposed to going to Cali.

And the dog still doesn't have a name.

Heck, I'm still amazed when they dress zombies in hats. Really ? After years outside exposed to the elements their hats would still be on.

you really don't know how to relax and just watch a show do you? It's z nation. A asylum/syfy show. Stop with logic. Just have fun.
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MrHufflepuff

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you really don't know how to relax and just watch a show do you? It's z nation. A asylum/syfy show. Stop with logic. Just have fun.

 

You really don't know how to relax and just read a message board do you?  It's Previously.tv.  A site where people discuss television.  Stop with the lectures.  Just have fun.

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GreyBunny

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It was definitely out of order.  They saw Mack jump out of the truck and run back to Addie, they heard the gunshots, they know he's dead.  The pie lady could be explained in that Mack didn't have anything he wanted her to do so he didn't bother to mind control her.  She was pretty willing to do what he wanted anyway.  

 

Murphy's saliva gives him mind-control powers. He spit in Janice's canteen, muttering sheepishly "a new low."

Later, with no time for subterfuge, he bit Zimmerman.

 

And he scratched the guy with the hat.

 

Murphy cracks me up.  He's so shameless I love it. 

 

Citizen Z dressing the dog up with reindeer antlers was cute!  Doggie needs a name!

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editorgrrl

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What inspired Murphy to spit in the canteen? In the "previouslies," they showed a montage of Murphy's physical changes & his ability to peacefully coexist with zombies. In the SUV, he peeled some skin off his hand—and hid it from the others. But how did he make the leap to "contact with my cells allows me to control humans"?

Also, Janice's husband was a Chekov's zombie. When they didn't kill him at the fence, I knew he'd kill someone in the final act.

Edited to add that they "gave mercy" to every zombie for three whole years, then dropped it pretty quickly. Didn't they even document the circumstances & identity? (Guess I should rewatch the entire season before the finale.) That's a far cry from Addy's snarky Cinderella dance.

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Helena Dax

Helena Dax

I think Murphy was making an experiment. In that episode with  the nuclear plant, he saw  he  had  some kind of control over  the zombie girl, the  helicopter pilot. And he has reasons to believe there's a bit of zombie inside him. So maybe he thought  his saliva would infect them with a bit of zombie too and it would allow him to control them the same way he could control that girl.

 

The problem I see is that he's supposed to be a walking antidote. So does it mean  if you get a shot of Murphy's blood he suddenly has that kind of power over you? Because that would suck.

 

I'm not  sure the episodes are out of order. Last week, Doc said Mack that Cassandra had hurt her leg with barb wire and now it was infected. In this episode, she was injured but there  was no explanation about her leg; I think if this was the first time we were supposed to see her injury, we would have been given an explanation. But we got that explanation last week.

 

Also, if Murphy had known he could control people when he was dealing with the Sisters of Mercy, I think he would have tried to do something. He had known he had power over the blonde girl and he could have used her to sneak into the camp, stop her leader, get more food, whatever. Roberta and the others didn't make any comments about what happened with him and his kidnappers in this episode, either.

 

So maybe they went back to Colorado because they couldn't go across Nevada to California. According to  the map, their original route was across Arizona.

 

Anyway, great chapter. This show is so fun,  you never know what's going to happen. It's got things  like the bit about South Park, Colorado and the zombies on Ritalin and Viagra.

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Racj82

Racj82

You really don't know how to relax and just read a message board do you? It's Previously.tv. A site where people discuss television. Stop with the lectures. Just have fun.

sorry between this show and the 100 i've been coming across a lot of post from just pick the shows apart thoroughly. With a show like a nation in particular I just think bringing too much logic into it won't get you far. The show has its serious moment but logic often doesn't live there. Just stating a opinion. To each there own.
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tsarbomba

tsarbomba

It was definitely out of order.  

 

I don't think so.  The doctor is in Ft. Collins, Colorado, and the preview of the next episode indicates that they are going to Ft. Collins, which is even farther from Utah than South Park.  So they must have had some reason to cut back East, I guess.

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TimetoShine

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sorry between this show and the 100 i've been coming across a lot of post from just pick the shows apart thoroughly. With a show like a nation in particular I just think bringing too much logic into it won't get you far. The show has its serious moment but logic often doesn't live there. Just stating a opinion. To each there own.

I agree but I just skip those posts now.

 

Moving on, why did Murphy turn the alarm off? If he could control those guys, what was the point? I've now seen 12 episodes but I'm not sure I enjoyed much of it. It's just a creepy little show.

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CletusMusashi

CletusMusashi

Clothing-wise, all I know is that those golfer-zombie's shirts were way, way too brand-new-spanking clean. WTF?

Murphy-wise: He's no longer just Dr. Smith. He's "Seinfeld." And the reason I put quotes around it is that he isn't just the character of Seinfeld. He's the show. Constantly snarking about every single person and detail? That's Jerry. The shifty guy who keeps winding up in situations he does not want and griping about it? That's George. The tall off-putting creepy guy who steals all the scenery and does surprisingly well with women? Kramer. Expensive tastes and delusions of entitlement? Yup. He's Elaine too. And stealing a mother and child's water, and then deliberately letting a zombie in to eat them? Who the hell does that? Hello, Newman...

And Citizen Z... seriously? Who the fuck talks to a dog that long without coming up with a name? The never getting off his chair and playing with his companion.. yeah. That, unfortunately, is a real thing. But names are easy. Especially if the entire reason you have a dog in the first place is so that you can extrapolate freely in whatever scene you happen to be in without looking like you're just talking to yourself!

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Rockstar99435

Rockstar99435

Viagra Zombies! I love this show. 10K's reaction was priceless.

 

Murphy's powers are cool.  But if anyone who ingests his saliva gets cured does that mean that the female kidnapper won't turn after being bit, and instead she'll just get eaten alive? Because that's terrible. Even if she was a kidnapper.

 

I'm a little confused -- last episode the gang all reconnected in the Salt Lake City area and then ended up at the Sisters of Mercy commune in southern Utah.   But at the start of this episode they are driving through South Park, Colorado which is near Denver. There is a throwaway line early in the episode when someone asks if they have heard from Mack or Addie and the consensus is no one has heard from them, while Roberta's heart says yes they will reconnect, her mind says no.

 

Which makes me think that these episodes have been aired out of order.  It would explain why they skipped from South Dakota to Utah so quickly last episode.  It also explains why Mack/Addie are absent this episode and why they have Citizen Z still searching for Mack/Addie -- since they still think they are still separated from the Zunami episode vs. knowing that they are most likely still at the Sisters of Mercy commune (and that Mack is probably dead).  It's not like this episode had a bunch of CGI or anything fancy that would have delayed its production (and skew the broadcast order).  Cassandra has a wounded leg, but it doesn't seem to be infected -- yet -- but seems to get worse by the end of the episode, which also puts it before last episode when should couldn't walk without assistance.

 

I don't think the episodes were aired out of order. I think they mentioned whether or not they would see Mack and Addy again because they just left them at the compound. Roberta hopes that Mack will be able to convince Addy to leave and that the two of them will be able to find the group again, but she knows logically it probably won't happen.

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Paloma

Paloma

On 11/30/2014 at 7:11 PM, editorgrrl said:

I saw Murphy scratch Henry's hand, but I don't remember Murphy exerting any control over him.

I know your post was 3 years ago, but in case you are still looking at this forum I wanted to respond that Murphy did exert control over Henry--he got Henry to extend the water bottle to Murphy (as if to offer a drink) after Henry initially refused to give him a drink. I think that was just Murphy testing his powers.

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