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Irishmaple

Irishmaple

It's nice to see Everybody Hates Chris alumni doing well.  Terry Crews is brilliant on Brooklyn 99 and now Chris himself shows up on The Walking Dead. I hope he sticks around for a while, though he doesn't seem particularly well-equipped for the world.  His escape plan was rudimentary, at best, and he would have had trouble getting out of the yard without Beth shooting everything that moved.  For his sake, I hope he found Daryl.  Otherwise, I wouldn't lay odds on him surviving long.

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morgankobi

morgankobi

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I clicked on this thread solely because of the title.

 

If Noah was traveling with his dad (who was apparently big and strong looking) up until a year ago, and has been in the hospital since then, he may not have had much experience killing walkers himself. It might be interesting to get someone "green" in this area with CDB. I also think his age group is a bit lacking, so he would make a nice addition there as well. With Maggie and Glenn off on the short bus, there's quite a gap between Carl and...Darryl? Is Darryl the next youngest of the group still with Father Pee-Pants, not counting Beth?

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lawless

lawless

I like him too, and particularly that he was trying to be kind to Beth, a total stranger, by giving her lollipops. Yes, he might have just been trying to butter her up to get help escape, but it seemed like a genuine attempt to be decent to a vulnerable innocent person. Everyone figured she was useless after all. Beth's grin at his escape was great and I think he was sincerely upset that she got caught. I just hope walkers don't eat him as soon as he turns the corner because he was in bad shape.

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RedheadZombie

RedheadZombie

I'm feeling a little bad for Noah right now.  I'm sure he will blame himself for Beth's death, and having to watch the group grieve her loss is going to be difficult.  I saw potential in a Noah/Beth pairing, and I thought there was some sort of chemistry there.  On a more shallow note, it sucks for Noah because he just watched the only available age-appropriate female in the world (as far as he knows) die in a misguided attempt to help him.

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kikismom

kikismom

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 I saw potential in a Noah/Beth pairing, and I thought there was some sort of chemistry there.  On a more shallow note, it sucks for Noah because he just watched the only available age-appropriate female in the world (as far as he knows) die in a misguided attempt to help him.

On a more shallow, but positive note, I sighed with the relief of knowing we won't have to see a Noah vs.Carl stabby/shooty confrontation in a cow pasture over Beth's availability.

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RedheadZombie

RedheadZombie

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On a more shallow, but positive note, I sighed with the relief of knowing we won't have to see a Noah vs.Carl stabby/shooty confrontation in a cow pasture over Beth's availability.

 

Yeah, there would have been no suspense either.  Clearly Carl would have won.  It also means that Carl will need to go a little older now - watch out Glenn.

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Pete Martell

Pete Martell

As someone who has never watched EHC and got tired of hearing "Everybody really does hate Chris" any time Noah breathed the wrong way, I'm not sure I'd want it in the title, but I can't really come up with anything of my own.

 

I do like Noah. I think Tyler James Williams has a great deal of stature for a younger actor - he doesn't seem like an overgrown child star, the way some do even when they're middle-aged or older. I thought he and Emily Kinney had great chemistry together and I believed the bond between Noah and Beth almost immediately. There are real opportunities in having another young-ish character outside of Carl, and I hope the show takes them. I wonder how he will feel about the group in general. I'd think he will be distant and likely somewhat disturbed.

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CletusMusashi

CletusMusashi

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I like the actor. But I'm not sure how far I trust the character. One moment he's ready to go in guns blazing with Rick. Then, when the hostage schtick is in play, he's insisting that "oh, these are all good cops!" You know, until one of them smashes Sasha unconscious while she's trying to be nice to him, and then Rick kills him. Which Noah is still fine with. We saw no surprise, no grief, just... "well, fuck him then. I'm still alive."

Noah's a good guy to have on your side when he's on your side. But I'm just sure how dependable that is.

If the doctor was killing other doctors because they might get more records to listen to than him,  I shudder to imagine what Noah may have done to skilled laundry workers if he thought they might get him bumped down to cleaning up guinea pig turds.

The best living-with-Noah survival strategy, in my opinion, is to dye your hair blonde and start singing.

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AngelaHunter

AngelaHunter

I give way fewers damns about Noah than I did about Beth, and if the raison d'etre for CDB turns into getting Noah "HOME" then it will officially turn into the Wizard of Oz, and I will not be able to take it. Been there, done that with Terminus, the CDC and Washington.

 

Of course, I'm pretty sure (hope) that won't happen, as I think Noah's home is outside the boundaries of Georgia, beyond which we know our gang cannot go.

 

OTOH, at this point Rick would make a pretty good Scarecrow, and we've got not one, but two Cowardly Lions. Abraham = Tin Man?

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kikismom

kikismom

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 if the raison d'etre for CDB turns into getting Noah "HOME" then it will officially turn into the Wizard of Oz

 

OTOH, at this point Rick would make a pretty good Scarecrow, and we've got not one, but two Cowardly Lions. Abraham = Tin Man?

I thought Eugene was the Tin Man, Tyreese was the Cowardly Lion, Glenn was the Scarecrow, Herschel was sometimes the Great and Powerful Oz alternating/with Professor Marvel.

Bob was Clem, Daryl was the Flying Devil Monkey, Abraham was the Captain of the Castle Guard, Joe and the Merletones were the Enchanted Forest Tree Bastards throwing apples, Dale Horvath was Glinda the Good Witch.

 

Judging by the story arcs, the female cast members: Carol, MIchonne, Maggie, Beth, Sasha, Andrea----get to take turns being Dorothy.

Tara and Rosita get to be Uncle Henry and Auntie Em, respectively.

 

Rick is, of course, Elvira Gulch.

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Pete Martell

Pete Martell

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I get so tired of hearing about how Noah killed this or that person. He didn't kill Tyreese. Tyreese could have survived with a simple, quick sweep. He was upset because he found what left of his family rotting away. He wasn't there to protect Tyreese.

 

And I saw someone saying, "We traded Beth for this!!!" Well, no. I like Beth, so I'm not going to bash her, but there was no "trade." Beth went off on Dawn and died as a result. Noah and the group had nothing to do with that. It's not on him. 

 

I thought Tyler James Williams was terrific in this episode, especially his big melodramatic breakdown in the middle of town after he realized what had happened. That type of scene has been done so many times on this show and in this genre and I should have just rolled my eyes, but he really got to me. 

 

I feel emotionally connected to this character in a way I do to only a handful of others on the show. Which likely is not a good thing, sadly.

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Pete Martell

Pete Martell

Noah is a red shirt to me - I never understood Beth's instant "devotion" to him, nor did I get why people thought he was worth a family reunion.  He hasn't brought a thing to my meager table - yet.

 

I think most of Beth's actions for him weren't really about him. She liked him, as he was there for her and he took a beating for her, but her standing up to Dawn was more about her hatred of Dawn than about him. The family reunion was also about what Beth had wanted.

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Pete Martell

Pete Martell

I knew Noah was going, and that he'd have a horrible death, so I wasn't shocked, but it still hurt to watch. They almost went out of their way to make sure viewers would care, compared to "OK, whatever" deaths like poor Oscar's, by having Glenn's reaction in the forefront. I just wish they hadn't felt the character was so disposable. 

 

This character has gotten so much shit from fans for "killing" Beth or "killing" Tyreese, and how dare he live while Beth dies, and all the rest, and even on Talking Dead I felt the actor was treated with disrespect, but I'm glad his last episode at least let us see just what a waste his death is and how much he could have added. 

 

I'm one of the very few people who have never seen Everybody Hates Chris, so this was the first time I'd ever seen Tyler James Williams. I was really impressed by his work in what could have been a throwaway role. I hope his next role will treat him better.

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Nashville

Nashville

Thinking about it, if he'd opted for the leg surgery, he wouldn't have gone on that run. I understand being hesitant, but if the alternative is running around in zombie country every day under a leader whose main survival skill is apparently running faster than his subordinates... you might want to take your chances with Doctor Drunky.

 

At least DD's shaky scalpel slip would give you an excuse not to go out on runs.  Just lay on a couch all day while Ms. Neudermeyer demonstrates her consummate skill at getting your pasta al dente - if you know what I mean (and I think you do).

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Pete Martell

Pete Martell

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What gets me is some of the same fans who say things like this are the ones who raged that he "killed" Beth and that his death was so awful not for him, but because "Beth died for him," as if he used mind control powers to make Beth stab body armor with teeny tiny scissors. So Noah is only worthwhile when it's time to bash Maggie.

 

I have been so disgusted by the way some fans treated him, and clearly that is not changing.

 

(I don't mean you, kirkismom, I mean the subset of fans who make things like this)

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