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JellyFishQueen

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I know they talked about her in an episode where Francine found out her parents planned to leave everything to Gwen after they die. She thought it was because Gwen is the biological daughter, but it was because Francine had her life together and Gwen was a mess. I can't remember if that was the first time Gwen has been mentioned, though.

They also talked about her when Stan was a meter maid. Also it was mention before in pervious ep's how much of a crush Stan has on Gwen. He mention about how hot Gwen looked at Stan and Francese wedding.

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Galileo908
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I'm pretty sure Roy Rogers McFreely is my favorite episode. It's both incredibly low stakes and balls to the wall crazy. "It was me, Roger, the whole time!" I still laugh at that.

DoctorAtomic
DoctorAtomic

Does anyone not like Ricky Spanish?  (Riickyyy Spannnnishhh)

cynicat
cynicat

Loved Roger saying (something like) "Run!  He's calling the Von Trapp children!"  when the guy whistled for his dogs.  

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Blakeston

Blakeston

I believe the first mention of Gwen was in Lincoln Lover.

Stan: "Greg and Terry - handsome, successful eligible bachelors. We really should set them up with some nice women. Hey, how about your sister?"

 

Francine: "Uh...I don't think so, Stan."

 

Stan: "Yeah, you're right. She's too hot. God, is Gwen hot! And slender. God! And that dress she wore at our wedding? Oh, I have never seen her more beautiful than on that day."

 

 

After building up Gwen as so outrageously hot, I kind of wish we'd never met here. Or at least, I wish they'd handled her storyline better.

 

I feel like the "____'s relative is obviously bad news, but ____ can't accept it" thing is just old. Especially after Stan's con artist father.

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Lazlo

Lazlo

I know they talked about her in an episode where Francine found out her parents planned to leave everything to Gwen after they die. She thought it was because Gwen is the biological daughter, but it was because Francine had her life together and Gwen was a mess. I can't remember if that was the first time Gwen has been mentioned, though.

 

The weird thing is she was portrayed as a completely different kind of mess when we we originally heard of her back in Season 3 - more of a Jillian from Family Guy type hot airhead, which is why Francine's parents left her everything.

 

Bah Bah: Because Gwen is moron. She needs lots of help! She fail math in school! Imagine Chinese girl can't do math?

Stan: It's embarrassing when children don't adhere to stereotypes.

Bah Bah: Francine is our smart daughter. We never have to worry about her. Plus she marry okay.

 

So somewhere along the way they obviously changed from 'Gwen is an idiot' to 'Gwen is a screwup'.

Spartan Girl

Spartan Girl

So we actually got to meet Hot Gwen -- voiced by Uma Thurman!  No idea it was her until the credits.

 

I know this episode was kind of inconsistent with everything we heard about Gwen before, but I still enjoyed it.  Stan teaching Steve how to use a hug for a cheap feel was hilarious and all sorts of wrong.

 

"You smoked in the science lab?"

 

"You think I give a shiiiit?"  Oh Francine.  Getting moved to TBS was the best thing that happened to this show.

SmithW6079

SmithW6079

Where did she say 'fuck?'

 

She didn't -- it was "shit." Still not digging that the move to TBS means more swears just for the sake of swears.

 

For some reason, I always assumed Francine was the oldest, that the Lings adopted her first and then had Gwen. Isn't it mentioned for the first time that Francine had a sister in the episode where Stan is secretly figure skating? I remember him following the phone cord and overhears Francine say, "Oh, hey sis...I always call you sis."

 

I didn't like the episode as it was playing, because I was sad to see that Gwen was just a common criminal, but I liked we discover she was covering for Francine. Still, it was an accident, so why did she go to jail?

 

Steve's perversity is hilarious. "If Francine wasn't my mama, you'd know I want to bone her..." in "Rubbernecking" and now he's overjoyed to have "feelings" for Aunt Gwen, whom he's not related to by blood. And Stan's explanation that if Gwen thought Steve was "special" it meant more hugs was so wrong and so funny.

 

Got a kick out of it when everybody got on Hayley for saying "Ont" not "ant."

ganesh

ganesh

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I liked the episode because everyone was involved. The last two were basically all Stan. Francine has her own brand of crazy that they just don't do enough with.

 

I don't mind that they're swearing now. I do all the time. I think it would be actually funnier if it were just Hayley and Francine that were swearing.

 

"Smokum peace pipe" was a funny line too.

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VCRTracking

VCRTracking

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Also Steve said "I don't know shit about hugging!"

 

I think they didn't go for Gwen being a dummy because that's a stereotype now, (example: Brenda Song's character on The Suite Life with Zach and Cody.) Classified in TVTropes as Asian Airhead. Her parents may have also said that about Gwen because she's dumb by Asian standards.

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Blakeston

Blakeston

For some reason, I always assumed Francine was the oldest, that the Lings adopted her first and then had Gwen. Isn't it mentioned for the first time that Francine had a sister in the episode where Stan is secretly figure skating? I remember him following the phone cord and overhears Francine say, "Oh, hey sis...I always call you sis."

 

I didn't like the episode as it was playing, because I was sad to see that Gwen was just a common criminal, but I liked we discover she was covering for Francine. Still, it was an accident, so why did she go to jail?."

 

Lincoln Lover came a bit earlier than Of Ice and Men. So unless there was a reference to Gwen before LIncoln Lover, the "Gwen is so hot!" dialogue was the first we ever heard of her.

 

I could see Gwen going to jail, even with it being an accident. Breaking into a high school, and smoking in the science lab (even though you went to jail for the same crime earlier), and starting a fire, could bring a ton of charges with it. 

ganesh

ganesh

I thought it was too Stan-focused though I did like the "real family" twist. I'd like either the family verse xmas, like the big shootout with Santa, or the family being more involved in most of the show. 

 

I have a hard time thinking Francine would be so uptight hosting the party. She was kind of insufferable. I picture her fussing around beforehand getting set up and then drinking too much. 

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SmithW6079

SmithW6079

I'd like either the family verse xmas, like the big shootout with Santa, or the family being more involved in most of the show.

 

Yeah, I'm partial to those really twisted ones. In this Christmas episode, Stan learned a lesson, which while it made me go "awww..." isn't really in keeping with the spirit of their other ones. (Cartoon Network just aired the Krampus episode the other night.)

SmithW6079

SmithW6079

I'm doubtful Stan's "lesson" will stick in the first place because that's just not how sitcoms work anyway.

 

Well, no, of course it's not going to "stick." I was just surprised that they bothered to put a lesson in. Although now that I think about it, except for the Christmas episode that takes place after the Rapture, Stan usually does learn a lesson about the love of family.

SmithW6079

SmithW6079

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Good to see American Dad back.  Was surprised they had Steve question his own gender.  Didn't think they'd go that route.  I did laugh my ass off when the girls helped him "tape up" again.

 

I was surprised, yet not, because it made so much sense that he might be transgender. I was surprised that they showed him taped up.

 

Stan and Francine's story I didn't care for so much, because they were rude to Jesus. (Was it the same guy who was the pizza delivery guy who imparted his wisdom to Roger and Steve so many years ago? I forget the episode.)

 

I also wanted to add -- I loved how the sign out front kept highlighting Roger's difficulty in managing his rat problem.

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SmithW6079

SmithW6079

The drunken wrathful hosts and crowd of Morning Mimosa had my sides splitting.

 

Could Hoda and Kathie Lee have been anymore obvious? 

 

i thought this was a weird episode. Steve's friends were right on the money when they told him that saying "Fuck you" to his mother changed everything, and Francine was great in portraying that hurt.

 

Why was Hayley so needy and useless all of a sudden? We've never really seen that behavior before to that extent, nor have they indicated that she would take advantage of Francine. 

 

Stan's excitement over the ensuing family drama was fun to watch, but not so much his descent into madness. (Although props to his line about getting a chair with less of an erection.)

 

Did Roger even really have a lot to do last night? It didn't seem like it.

 

It seems like they were all over the place, with characters acting inconsistently based on their previous behaviors. So far, it just seems as though "edgier 'American Dad'" means a few swear words slipped in to dialogue.

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OnceSane

OnceSane

Me too! I should have guessed that his wife was Roger in yet another costume, but I didn't. And once Roger told Hayley he only helped her to help himself, I loved her busting his game.

What was the point of the Francine/Stan/Steve B plot? Actually, for the airtime it got it was more like a Z plot. Utterly pointless and seemed like it was only there to shoehorn them into the episode.

SmithW6079

SmithW6079

What was the point of the Francine/Stan/Steve B plot? Actually, for the airtime it got it was more like a Z plot. Utterly pointless and seemed like it was only there to shoehorn them into the episode.

 

"American Dad" hasn't had problems before with not showing characters; in fact, they've often made a joke about it -- one episode where Klaus and Hayley joke about saying one line and having to be paid, or the one where Steve plots his revenge against the alpha girls, and there's one scene where he passes through the living room where the family's gathered, but that's all we see of them.

 

This has been two episodes recently where Hayley's been featured prominently, so I like that they're trying to give her something to do, but I'm a little worried that they're making her the Meg of this show -- a punching bag to use and abuse -- which she never was before. 

 

So, while Roger was married to Axe, he's also been married to the warden of the prison for 30 years (when he was Ricky Spanish). He certainly gets around.

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SmithW6079

SmithW6079

We need to see more Klaus flashbacks.

 

Flashback Klaus looks suspiciously like fish Klaus (and his human counterpart in the Tearjerker episodes), and nothing like dead Klaus (although, he was a rotting corpse, so I guess it makes sense). However, whenever I think of human Klaus, I picture him as the black man he was in the episode where Francine buys a kiosk at the mall.

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SmithW6079

SmithW6079

Definitely the best part of the episode.  Although I had to laugh at Roger's slow outraged turning to Hayley when she said she deleted the episodes...and then back to Steve when he said Bones wasn't that good anymore.

Those were my favorite two parts of that story line. Otherwise, I thought it was pretty stupid. Hey, Smith kids, you have opposable thumbs: why didn't you just reach through the bars and undo the latches? It's not the first time they've made fun of "Bones."

 

Kind of a fun episode.

 

Maybe it is just me (because I'm a fan of the film Dead Again) but did anyone else expect Stan to be revealed as the reincarnation of Gloria and Francine to be the reincarnation of Lester?

Ooh, I hadn't thought of that, but Stan pretty much dismisses Francine's notion at the end. I admit it, I got the biggest kick out of the scenes in the ocean, especially when June makes the boat go forward while they're swimming for it, and later when Stan backs it up over her. 

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