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S2.E4: The Circle of Strife

ZettaK

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29 minutes ago, Emmeline said:

I am surprised that Jax can use his cell phone while in the mental health facility.  They usually don’t even allow cell phones at all.  They have house phones that can be used during an hour or so each day in a common room.

 

8 minutes ago, Thumper said:

I was wondering the same thing.

I'm sure it's a loosey-goosey Southern California crunchy granola kind of "mental facility".

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Marley

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Ugh Jax is still a dbag loser who is blaming everyone else. He's always sick & needs to be checked in on. Please I don't buy his shit & he will never change.

Michelle is cold but Jesse is a major dbag. Of course he talks to Jax every day.

Ugh to anything with Janet.

How did Jesse & Michelle even get married they have seemed to hate each other always lol.

Jax having his phone doesn't surprise me. I knew someone's partner in rehab recently & he seemed to have his phone quite often after an initial time & this isn't California.

Stop with this Benji crap no one gives a fuck about Zack or his new so called bf who is not on the show & the small snippet of them talking seemed stupid & fake at least on the BF's side.

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dancingdreamer

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I think  Jesse and Michelle  were happy when they were traveling,  once they stopped  and had a child, they grew apart. Life wasn't  so exciting  for Michelle. I don't  care for Aaron,  yuck.

Jax rage texting  sounds normal  for him. I'd of switched  the phone off.

I still don't  like Zack, he's a manipulative  little s***. His Benji cutout was annoying. 

I saw Luke on WWHL as I said before,  and he seems the most sane. I felt sorry  for Kristen tonight. 

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Chatty Cake

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As long as Jax is texting his usual toxic bullshit, he’s not doing a damn thing to help himself. He can’t blame it on drinking or using. The audacity to keep popping off about Brittany and Julien when he’s been keeping company with coke whores is crazy. I don’t believe he cares that much about his son. I guess he’ll get to blame his assholery on a diagnosis based on the previews. 
Could Zach be any more dramatic when talking to Janet? As I see it, his comment was shitty but it wasn’t as bad as Janet made it out to be. He needn’t blame being blacked out or Brittany. Just stop making douchey comments. 
Jesse is even more dramatic than Zach. And I didn’t need to see him in his underwear at the end.

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tvfanatic13

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7 hours ago, Chatty Cake said:

As long as Jax is texting his usual toxic bullshit, he’s not doing a damn thing to help himself. He can’t blame it on drinking or using. The audacity to keep popping off about Brittany and Julien when he’s been keeping company with coke whores is crazy. I don’t believe he cares that much about his son. I guess he’ll get to blame his assholery on a diagnosis based on the previews. 
Could Zach be any more dramatic when talking to Janet? As I see it, his comment was shitty but it wasn’t as bad as Janet made it out to be. He needn’t blame being blacked out or Brittany. Just stop making douchey comments. 
Jesse is even more dramatic than Zach. And I didn’t need to see him in his underwear at the end.

What WAS that underwear? It looked like hospital issue. 

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1 hour ago, Marley said:

One other moment that annoyed me was Jesse grabbing Luke's car & taking him out of the race when he was winning that was just so rude. Jesse is an asshole & it gets even worse when he gets drunk.

I didn’t understand how or why he did that. He seems to enjoy being a jerk for the fun of it. 
He cries at the circle, says Michelle is cold in his interview but he said she was a prostitute in a group chat! What does he expect?

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17 hours ago, Emmeline said:

I am surprised that Jax can use his cell phone while in the mental health facility.  They usually don’t even allow cell phones at all.  They have house phones that can be used during an hour or so each day in a common room.

Jax on the after show said that in California legally they can't take your phone but that they recommended he give it up.  Of course, he refused.  He admitted he should have given it up and was way too wrapped up in wanting to know what was happening in the outside world.  Of course he then goes on to rant about "Why couldn't Britney respond and let me know she cares? Not that I deserve it!"  The man is such a narcissist and Bravo needs to stop giving him a platform. 

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Brittney: “whenever Jax was in rehab..”

NO you fucking idiot, it is just “when.”  She does this all the time.  Please someone tell her that “when” and “whenever” are 2 different words.  
 

Janet: “I’m white trash but…”

OMG who says that??  Make her and her stupid husband go away.

 

And just because it startles me every week, so I have to mention it, Luke is heinous looking.

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Salacious Kitty

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47 minutes ago, heatherchandler said:

Brittney: “whenever Jax was in rehab..”

NO you fucking idiot, it is just “when.”  She does this all the time.  Please someone tell her that “when” and “whenever” are 2 different words.  
 

Janet: “I’m white trash but…”

OMG who says that??  Make her and her stupid husband go away.

 

And just because it startles me every week, so I have to mention it, Luke is heinous looking.

Whenever is a Southern thing. You that it all the time on shows based in the South.

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AnnieBananie

AnnieBananie

My favorite therapy joke, as someone who Venmos her therapist on the regular:

Q: How many therapists does it take to change a lightbulb?

 

A: One, but the lightbulb has to want to change.

Our resident lightbulb, Jax Taylor, is not interested in changing. If he were, he'd give up the phone, he'd stop rage-texting Brittany, and he'd grasp that his future is on the line. 

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JenE4

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12 hours ago, Thumper said:

Maybe it was his “end of clean underwear” underwear?!

I almost thought Jesse forgot to pack underwear and had to borrow someone else’s, but I don’t think any of those guys are an XXL, so they must be his own loosey grayies. Then again, Jesse is kind of bougee and fashionable. So I bet this is the new thing in men’s underwear that we just don’t know about it yet. It’s like when the boxer-brief was invented. Now they took the boxer brief and cut it high like women’s underwear, maybe, with extra flounce?

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ZettaK

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15 hours ago, Katie W said:

The man is such a narcissist and Bravo needs to stop giving him a platform. 

Bravo shouldn't be giving him a platform. He shouldn't be on the Bravo Aftershow, but that's Bravo, the Aftershows are live, and he is out of rehab by now. I'm sure he continued filming the second he was out of rehab. 

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I'm glad Brittany showed Jax's rage texts because we saw he only cared about his career, that he considered her responsible for (possibly) destroying it, and not himself, and that he didn't care about getting better, or his son. He bitched about her going to "vacations" when he knew it was a work trip for the show. 

Jessie, after calling his wife an escort in a group chat that the guys discuss with their partners, and at the time the show filmed, claimed his wife was cheating with her current boyfriend for two years when Kristen who knows all the juicy gossip said it was not true.

I forgot: Brittany said on Watch What Happens Live last week that Cruz was diagnosed with autism. 

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snarts

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4 hours ago, ZettaK said:

Jessie, after calling his wife an escort in a group chat that the guys discuss with their partners, and at the time the show filmed, claimed his wife was cheating with her current boyfriend for two years when Kristen who knows all the juicy gossip said it was not true.

Kristen did not claim it untrue. She merely said that the cheating rumor she heard about Michelle included a man other than Aaron.

Michelle's never actually denied cheating. She was offended by the insinuation that she accepted money for her services but she hasn't proclaimed faithfulness. If anything she's seemingly tried to justify it by saying that Jesse lost interest in her, wouldn't touch her, etc. 

 

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90DayFart

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Three theories about Jesse's panties:

  1. He is in denial about being a size Small, so he buys XL instead
  2. He suffers from incontinence (my 88 year old uncle wears male Depends that look shockingly similar to what Jesse was wearing)
  3. We are entering a new and terrifying era for male-underwear fashion. I guess now that skinny jeans are out, men can transition to much baggier undergarments?
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ZettaK

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On 5/8/2025 at 12:49 PM, snarts said:

Kristen did not claim it untrue. She merely said that the cheating rumor she heard about Michelle included a man other than Aaron.

Michelle's never actually denied cheating. She was offended by the insinuation that she accepted money for her services but she hasn't proclaimed faithfulness. If anything she's seemingly tried to justify it by saying that Jesse lost interest in her, wouldn't touch her, etc. 

 

I didn't say that Michelle denied she was cheating. She admitted herself she made a "mistake" once, and told Jessie. Kristen said in the previous episode that Michelle was not cheating with Aaron before her separation. Jessie claimed she was cheating for two years with Aaron in the current episode. Kristen also said that she was considering not continuing her alliance with him because of his escort claims against Michelle (in the previous episode). I don't think Jessie needs to be defended. He is not a nice guy- he was verbally abusive toward cast members including Kristen, banging his fists on tables, and physically attacking cast members last season for anybody who forgot- and Michelle not being nice either doesn't make a difference.

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snarts

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9 hours ago, ZettaK said:

Kristen said in the previous episode that Michelle was not cheating with Aaron before her separation.

Again, Kristen merely said the rumor she heard about Michelle's cheating involved a different guy. She did not say (nor would she have any way to know) whether or not Michelle also cheated with Aaron. And she was joking about rescinding her #teamjesse status, notice how she put an immediate stop to Michelle's Santa Barbara voting plan

Michelle denied cheating all last season. Now she's suddenly owning up to "one mistake" on WWHL. There's something shady about her IMHO and I'd suggest the timeline she herself has shared along with the evidence Jesse mentioned points to her knowing/getting with Aaron before they separated. I mean, Michelle had already moved in with Aaron during filming last Summer.

Neither Jesse or Michelle are perfect and they both share blame for the demise of their marriage. I see him acknowledging his faults while she tries to act blameless. Worse, she's on a publicity campaign talking about his finances, how he won't pay her spousal support (odd, since they're 50/50 business partners) his drinking, etc. So yes, I will defend him all I want.

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