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The View: Week of 5/5/2025

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Monday, May 5 – Hugh Jackman (Radio City Music Hall residency, “From New York, With Love”; theater company, “TOGETHER”)

Tuesday, May 6 – Karol G (documentary, “Karol G: Tomorrow Was Beautiful”); co-hosts Favorite Things: Mother’s Day Edition

Wednesday, May 7 – Josh Duhamel (“Ransom Canyon”); former co-host of “The View” Star Jones on women’s heart disease

Thursday, May 8 – Exclusive with former President Joe Biden and Dr. Jill Biden in their first interview since leaving the White House

Friday, May 9 – Busy Philipps (host, “Busy This Week”); Isabel Allende (author, “My Name Is Emilia del Valle”)

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Shrek

Shrek

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On the Prince Harry thing, he didn't want all the trappings so he needs to STFU with his whining about not getting security while in the U.K. He lives in the U.S.A. which is a lot more dangerous than the U.K.  so zip it & deal with it. But now he's lost the court case & has finished moaning to everyone & their dog in tv interviews he wants reconciliation with his father & brother, try doing it in private & not on tv.

Sunny, just shut up about the Harry thing. 

Anna, way to make it all about yourself rather than just answer the question. That was so annoying I almost threw my ipad across the room.

So Alyssa would be there with pitchforks etc. if Biden or Obama had said what the tangerine tyrant said about the constitution, but Trump does it and ............................. yes Alyssa we get it, you now want to have his babies and you will make excuse after excuse for him. 

 

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Dimity

Dimity

1 minute ago, TheGreenKnight said:

I do agree with Sunny in a sense on Harry. Whether or not he wants to be a royal is irrelevant really, since he was a celebrity who requires security just from the fact that he was born in the family. He can't change the fact thst he would be followed forever because of it.

What I found most interesting wasn't that Harry wanted security (that was kind of a duh of course thing) it was that the royal family doesn't want that for him or his family - and even tried to not have security for Meghan before their wedding.  Tell me you're racist without telling me you're racist!  Sunny was absolutely right.

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Gemma Violet

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I haven't watched yesterday's show yet, but Harry and Meghan inked a $100 million dollar 5-year deal with Netflix and Harry got $27 million for his book, $13 million left to him by Diana, $10 million from the Queen Mother, $1 million for each speaking engagement, and there have been other deals they profited on.  They wanted to leave all things royal, didn't want to take part in the duties the other royal members do, and basically trashed their family up and down, making the Queen's last years very unpleasant.  With all that money they have and will have in future earnings, they can afford to have a security team around them for the rest of their lives.  They made their bed--let them lie in it.

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Shrek

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1 hour ago, TheGreenKnight said:

I do agree with Sunny in a sense on Harry. Whether or not he wants to be a royal is irrelevant really, since he was a celebrity who requires security just from the fact that he was born in the family. He can't change the fact thst he would be followed forever because of it.

But he doesn't want to be a part of that family, he wants all of the benefits without putting in any of the work. He's what now? 5th in line to the throne? He wants the penny & the bun & sorry, but life isn't like that & he only wants the country to pay for security when he's in it yet he's willing to pay for his own where it's a lot more dangerous. 

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Dimity

Dimity

27 minutes ago, Gemma Violet said:

They made their bed--let them lie in it.

I think based on what I've been reading they're very happy in Montecito and have no desire whatsoever to go back to England for any reason other than a vacation now and then.  Sunny wasn't really talking about whether they're happy or not though, she was talking about why the royal family sucks out loud. 

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TheGreenKnight

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Markle at least did have a choice in entering the public eye, but nobody born into royalty, least of all to Princess Diana, really had a choice in the fact that cameras and crazies will follow them forever. Security seems like something that should be locked in for them regardless of how they choose to live their lives.

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cinsays

cinsays

38 minutes ago, Shrek said:

But he doesn't want to be a part of that family, he wants all of the benefits without putting in any of the work. He's what now? 5th in line to the throne? He wants the penny & the bun & sorry, but life isn't like that & he only wants the country to pay for security when he's in it yet he's willing to pay for his own where it's a lot more dangerous. 

why can't he just want some kind of a relationship with his father and brother? 

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KittyQ

KittyQ

Feminism discussion - I think that part of the reason that some people react badly to that term is that the early feminist activists were over-the-top. They burned bras, told men that they didn't want or need help, usually in pretty rude ways, and gave everyone the impression that they disdained (if not hated) men. To say the least, it was divisive, even among other women who didn't want to do those things. In general, women did want to be able to have any job they wanted, earn equal money, and so on, but didn't want to reject all the other things, so being asked if you were a feminist was like asking if you were an extremist. 

You'd think that by now, either there would be another term for women having equality financially, socially, artistically, etc. or people would have moved on past those early extremist behaviors. Unfortunately, it is still a thing with some people. 

Ohiopirate02

Ohiopirate02

1 hour ago, Gemma Violet said:

I haven't watched today's show yet, but Harry and Meghan inked a $100 million dollar 5-year deal with Netflix and Harry got $27 million for his book, $13 million left to him by Diana, $10 million from the Queen Mother, $1 million for each speaking engagement, and there have been other deals they profited on.  They wanted to leave all things royal, didn't want to take part in the duties the other royal members do, and basically trashed their family up and down, making the Queen's last years very unpleasant.  With all that money they have and will have in future earnings, they can afford to have a security team around them for the rest of their lives.  They made their bed--let them lie in it.

From what I have read about this case, Harry's issue is not the cost of security. He's more than willing to pay for his own private security. The issue is that in order for Harry, Meghan, and their children to be protected Harry's private security would need to liaise with the UK government and royal security; and the UK government is denying this request.  So if there are credible threats made against any of the Sussexes, there would be no way for Harry and Meghan to know this and they risk coming into a country where they would just have to hope for the best.

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Shrek

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57 minutes ago, Dimity said:

I think based on what I've been reading they're very happy in Montecito and have no desire whatsoever to go back to England for any reason other than a vacation now and then.  Sunny wasn't really talking about whether they're happy or not though, she was talking about why the royal family sucks out loud. 

That's Sunny's view as an American & she will throw shit at the Royal Family anytime given half a chance & I know a lot of Americans feel the same way but you have the Kennedy's so there's that. 

I understand why though, you fought a war to get rid of a king only to end up with someone who thinks he's a king 200 years later.

 

33 minutes ago, cinsays said:

why can't he just want some kind of a relationship with his father and brother? 

Oh he can but let's not be throwing shit around like he or her tend to do. Try & be a little less spikey & only want it when you lose your court case.

 

18 minutes ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

From what I have read about this case, Harry's issue is not the cost of security. He's more than willing to pay for his own private security. The issue is that in order for Harry, Meghan, and their children to be protected Harry's private security would need to liaise with the UK government and royal security; and the UK government is denying this request.  So if there are credible threats made against any of the Sussexes, there would be no way for Harry and Meghan to know this and they risk coming into a country where they would just have to hope for the best.

No he's not, he wants the British government to cover his security when he's in the U.K. I doubt it would even have got this far if both sides had at least tried to reconcile beforehand but nooooooooooooo let's go to court. And I can almost guarantee that the first thing to come into most British peoples heads (even his supporters) would have been something along the lines of "typical yank, if things don't go your way SUE" or "that's her doing". 

They just need to get on with their happy lives in California & be done with all this family drama being carried out in the media.

I'm not a big fan of the Royal Family but neither am I a hater like a lot of people, they are what they are & hold no real power just the illusion of it.

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Dimity

31 minutes ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

So if there are credible threats made against any of the Sussexes, there would be no way for Harry and Meghan to know this and they risk coming into a country where they would just have to hope for the best.

The problem with The View is they bring up interesting stories but mostly skim the surface.  I mean I get it.  Despite it being considered a news show (not by me) they really don't go too in depth most of the time.  They may not even be aware that there are people (neo-Nazis) in jail in England right now because they plotted to kill Archie.

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TheGreenKnight

TheGreenKnight

2 hours ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

From what I have read about this case, Harry's issue is not the cost of security. He's more than willing to pay for his own private security. The issue is that in order for Harry, Meghan, and their children to be protected Harry's private security would need to liaise with the UK government and royal security; and the UK government is denying this request.  So if there are credible threats made against any of the Sussexes, there would be no way for Harry and Meghan to know this and they risk coming into a country where they would just have to hope for the best.

I didn't know that was the case since these topics are the kind I only follow superficially; I didn't know it was about communication between his security and the royal security. That makes the refusal even more crazy. Never liked Charles or Elizabeth though, so I'm not surprised.

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anony.miss

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6 hours ago, TheGreenKnight said:

since he was a celebrity who requires security just from the fact that he was born in the family.

Agreed. I wish the show had mentioned that Harry also faces threats related to his military service in Afghanistan - Al Queda called  for his death (again) a couple of years ago.

5 hours ago, Gemma Violet said:

They wanted to leave all things royal, didn't want to take part in the duties the other royal members do,

Another point I wish the show had covered - Harry and Meghan very much wanted to remain working royals, serving in a Commonwealth country - apparently,  the Queen herself was also thinking along the same lines:

"QUEEN ELIZABETH II helped come up with the idea that Prince Harry and Meghan Markle should live in a country somewhere in the Commonwealth about a year before their bombshell announcement that they would be stepping back as senior royals, according to a royal biographer."

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1350043/queen-elizabeth-ii-prince-harry-meghan-markle-commonwealth-malta-prince-philip-spt

 

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and basically trashed their family up and down,

Charles wrote his own official "tell all" book in the 90s (the Dimbleby bio). He said Elizabeth was a cold and distant mother, his father was a bully, his marriage to Diana was a sham, he had never loved her, the monarchy was broken, etc etc. It came close to causing a consitutional crisis.

Charles was forgiven by his parents, and never shunned, ostracized, etc -  it's a shame he's chosen to not extend the same grace to his own son.

3 hours ago, Shrek said:

No he's not, he wants the British government to cover his security when he's in the U.K.

He did offer to pay, and his request was rejected:

LONDON (AP) — A London judge rejected Prince Harry’s bid to pay for his own police protection Tuesday, denying the royal’s request to challenge the U.K. government in court."

https://apnews.com/article/prince-harry-police-protection-uk-565e4a2f542f2f64cd343656324f11b0

I wish The View did more basic research - they rarely bother to offer facts and context,  which often leads them to end up in "discussions" that would be completely different if an intern had taken two minutes to  round up a few facts. Just maddening.

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Haleth

Haleth

It breaks my heart to see a family, any family, so estranged. They’ve dealt with a lot of tragedy and live in a fishbowl that probably none of us can understand so they should support each other, especially the brothers. (What a shame the cousins don’t have a relationship.) Why they can’t even try to talk is beyond me. Harry sounds sincere in his desire to reconcile. If he can get past they awful things said about Meghan, Charles and William should certainly be amenable to a fresh start. 

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Dimity

Dimity

1 minute ago, Anela said:

Harry and his family should get the same protection as the others. I don't care what went down between them, their children deserve to be protected, and so do they. 

Even if Charles can't get past his feelings about Harry and Meghan it's a shame that he has decided he doesn't want anything to do with his grandchildren.

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Snapdragon

Snapdragon

So I watch a lot of entertainment news youtubers and this was by far the worst conversation I've seen on the 100% tariff on foreign produced movies topic.  While all the people I watch agree that it's completely the wrong move (and ridiculously vague), they all admit that there's a real problem in Hollywood with things being shot overseas that don't have to be.  So it's not movies about Italy being shot in Italy, but movies set in Pennsylvania being shot in Italy.  Basically, California's been taking Hollywood for granted for years and has started to nickel and dime them about everything and keeps putting more and more red tape for them to cut through, so they started moving production elsewhere.  Georgia was being used for awhile, but started moving production overseas when other countries started offering more incentives (I believe it's Warner Bros that just opened a London office to handle all of their DC movies).  It's not so much a problem for above the line talent (directors, actors) but below the line (camera people, lighting, makeup, craft services), it's a huge problem as studios just hire locals for that work, so they're losing jobs constantly.  So something does need to be done, just not a dumb 100% tariff. 

As others have said upthread (and a thousand times on this board), this show hardly does any research before they discuss a topic and at this point, it's just embarrassing.

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cinsays

cinsays

15 hours ago, HerkyJerky said:

Sunny to Whoopi about her MetGala outfit: “I know you don’t like to be fawned over, Whoopi”

The whole TV viewing audience: HUH? WTF???

yeah, we know the whoop likes nothing better than to be adored and lauded constantly. i am always amazed that sunny feels compelled to do this. and i don't care what the critics say, that outfit was not attractive at all

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CheshireCat

CheshireCat

21 hours ago, anony.miss said:

He did offer to pay, and his request was rejected:

To be fair, he wanted to hire police officers as bodyguards, not private security. 

I think one of the issues was as well that security doesn't ordinarily carry weapons in the UK (which strikes me as odd but so far so good) and that a private security detail wouldn't be allowed to carry weapons either. 
Given Harry's childhood trauma, I understand is concern. At the same time, Malala Yousafzai lives in the UK and if she feels safe and is safe, I think Harry would be, too. 

If I look at this whole situation, I get the feeling that Harry's trauma prevents him from trusting the people tasked with keeping him safe. After all, they've kept him, his family and countless other people who face similar threat levels safe for decades. 

Generally speaking, when news of the feud first broke, someone on another forum said that there are always three sides to the story: either side and the truth. While we don't even have two sides since the palace doesn't comment, that's how I've been viewing all of the news surrounding this family feud. I'm sure there's some truth to Harry's version, there'd be some truth to the palace's version, if there were one, and the truth would likely be somewhere in the middle. 
 

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KittyQ

KittyQ

13 hours ago, cinsays said:

yeah, we know the whoop likes nothing better than to be adored and lauded constantly. i am always amazed that sunny feels compelled to do this. and i don't care what the critics say, that outfit was not attractive at all

Sometimes I wonder if Sunny is being slyly sarcastic when she says these things, but I don't think that she's that subtle. 

IMO most Met Gala outfits aren't that attractive. Some seem barely wearable and not functional as useful clothing. These are costumes, not usable for anything except getting attention. 

From an article about Whoopi's outfit: "The white overcoat was embroidered with 350,000 matte sequins—a process that took 7,700 hours to create." - They commented on that on the show, too. It made me wonder who had to sew on all those sequins, and how much they were getting paid. 

I'm not a fashionista, only a casual observer of what people are wearing, but Whoopi's outfit, with the top hat and the gold tipped nail "covers" didn't even seem all that original. 

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Haleth

Haleth

1 hour ago, KittyQ said:

IMO most Met Gala outfits aren't that attractive. Some seem barely wearable and not functional as useful clothing. These are costumes, not usable for anything except getting attention. 

Of course they are not wearable or useful. And of course they are for drawing attention. The whole point of the gala is that it’s a fund raiser for the Met. Yes, the celebs want cameras on themselves but publicity = more $ for the museum. It’s not like an award show runway. This is a performance to advertise the latest art installation. The celebs are literally art in motion. 

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TheGreenKnight

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5 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

It's called job security.

Oh, it definitely was back when she first started doing it, but I actually think Whoopi and Sunny have come to like one another the past two years or so. I think Alyssa joining the panel actually caused that to happen; she caused the others to become more unified than they had been before.

I think most of the panel seem to be friends these days except Alyssa and Sara seem off in their own little corner (likely with Brian), often hostile to the other four. Sara mixes with the others a little, but Alyssa seems to obsess over the others always looking for something, anything, critical to say. I'd say she's bitter--and she probably is--but mostly I think it’s an agenda-driven tactic. Probably the same reason she tried to cause so much friction between Sara and the others when she first started--as a former Trump lackey, the whole "divide and conquer" strategy probably comes as easy as breathing for someone like her.

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bluegirl147

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I don't watch anymore but when Alyssa first joined the show she seemed to want to fit in.  To be friends with the others.  But that of course was before Trump was back in the White House.  IMO she is back to being a Trumper and thinks all non Trump supporters aren't people she wants to be friends with. The View won't last forever and at some point Alyssa will need another job and I'm sure she would look for one connected conservative Republicans. 

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Haleth

Haleth

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59 minutes ago, pvandal said:

Still a little bit of time before it airs here in Seattle but no comments about the Bidens? Is it worth watching?

Lots of shoulda, woulda, coulda. Biden was Biden. Nothing new.

One funny thing tho was a discussion about Trump calling the auto pen pardons  void and vacant, Biden said, “Eh, he’s vacant.” Everyone broke up. 

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Gemma Violet

Gemma Violet

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12 hours ago, TheGreenKnight said:

I think Alyssa joining the panel actually caused that to happen; she caused the others to become more unified than they had been before.

I think most of the panel seem to be friends these days except Alyssa and Sara seem off in their own little corner (likely with Brian), often hostile to the other four. Sara mixes with the others a little, but Alyssa seems to obsess over the others always looking for something, anything, critical to say. I'd say she's bitter--and she probably is--but mostly I think it’s an agenda-driven tactic. Probably the same reason she tried to cause so much friction between Sara and the others when she first started--as a former Trump lackey, the whole "divide and conquer" strategy probably comes as easy as breathing for someone like her.

I could not disagree more.  I think Sunny has warmed to Alyssa over the years and actually likes her.  Alyssa has said on the podcast that Sunny is helping her navigate her IVF treatments and giving her advice since she went through the same thing.  Unprompted, Joy has commented on the podcast very favorably about Alyssa--I can't remember exactly what she said, but it was very kind and complimentary.  Whoopi sometimes refers to Alyssa as "Baby" when she talks to her.  That doesn't sound like someone who hates her.  As far as Alyssa and Sarah, yes, they are best buds as per their Instagram stories, teasing each other, doing dances together, and acting silly.  The only one I have doubts about is Ana.  I doubt she cares for Alyssa because she (Ana) rarely looks at her.  

I see no 'divide and conquer' strategy in Alyssa, and 'bitter' is the last word I'd use to describe her.  

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Prairie Rose

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1 hour ago, Gemma Violet said:

I could not disagree more.  I think Sunny has warmed to Alyssa over the years and actually likes her.  Alyssa has said on the podcast that Sunny is helping her navigate her IVF treatments and giving her advice since she went through the same thing.  Unprompted, Joy has commented on the podcast very favorably about Alyssa--I can't remember exactly what she said, but it was very kind and complimentary.  Whoopi sometimes refers to Alyssa as "Baby" when she talks to her.  That doesn't sound like someone who hates her.  As far as Alyssa and Sarah, yes, they are best buds as per their Instagram stories teasing each other, doing dances together, and acting silly.  The only one I have doubts about is Anna.  I don't think she likes Alyssa because she rarely looks at her.  

I see no 'divide and conquer' strategy in Alyssa, and 'bitter' is the last word I'd use to describe her.  

I was against her being hired on principle back in 2022, but slowly warmed up a bit to Alyssa. This was before Election 2024, of course, but I don’t think she has ever been about divide and conquer. That was the strategy of her predecessor, the One Who Shall Not Be Named. 

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cinsays

cinsays

1 hour ago, Gemma Violet said:

I could not disagree more.  I think Sunny has warmed to Alyssa over the years and actually likes her.  Alyssa has said on the podcast that Sunny is helping her navigate her IVF treatments and giving her advice since she went through the same thing.  Unprompted, Joy has commented on the podcast very favorably about Alyssa--I can't remember exactly what she said, but it was very kind and complimentary.  Whoopi sometimes refers to Alyssa as "Baby" when she talks to her.  That doesn't sound like someone who hates her.  As far as Alyssa and Sarah, yes, they are best buds as per their Instagram stories teasing each other, doing dances together, and acting silly.  The only one I have doubts about is Anna.  I don't think she likes Alyssa because she rarely looks at her.  

I see no 'divide and conquer' strategy in Alyssa, and 'bitter' is the last word I'd use to describe her.  

yeah, i totally agree

i don't see alyssa as a trumper but just fully aware of who he is and how his sick mind works and wanting to explain that to the rest of us

didn't care for her questions to biden, but i think that's what the powers that be wanted to be asked and who else could do it?

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TheGreenKnight

TheGreenKnight

2 hours ago, Prairie Rose said:

I was against her being hired on principle back in 2022, but slowly warmed up a bit to Alyssa. This was before Election 2024, of course, but I don’t think she has ever been about divide and conquer. That was the strategy of her predecessor, the One Who Shall Not Be Named. 

The previous one could never have managed that strategy because that would have involved her being able to feign friendship with other people and she was too much of a narcissist to exhibit normal human behavior, lmao. Alyssa's a much better actor, much more in control of her emotions, I'll give her that. 

I enjoyed the Biden interview, just a shame we didn't get even one segment of Hot Topics as I expected. 

2 hours ago, cinsays said:

yeah, i totally agree

i don't see alyssa as a trumper but just fully aware of who he is and how his sick mind works and wanting to explain that to the rest of us

didn't care for her questions to biden, but i think that's what the powers that be wanted to be asked and who else could do it?

Not sure about the last part. I mean, I agree that Brian is the one feeding them the Trump-fodder questions to ask, but Alyssa's anger was palpable when Biden responded to Joy's question about Trump being obsessed with him. Biden could sense it, too, he babied Alyssa when he responded to her question afterwards. 

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Sue in her 60s

Sue in her 60s

On 5/6/2025 at 12:39 PM, KittyQ said:

Feminism discussion - I think that part of the reason that some people react badly to that term is that the early feminist activists were over-the-top.

Feminism existed long before the 60's counter-culture movements. It took a l-o-o-ong time to get the vote. And the feminists who fought for suffrage were also put down, mocked, and hated for their activism.

On 5/6/2025 at 6:56 PM, Anela said:

Harry and his family should get the same protection as the others. I don't care what went down between them, their children deserve to be protected, and so do they. 

I have nothing against him, or Meghan. 

How I love your little owl!

KittyQ

KittyQ

9 hours ago, Sue in her 60s said:

Feminism existed long before the 60's counter-culture movements. It took a l-o-o-ong time to get the vote. And the feminists who fought for suffrage were also put down, mocked, and hated for their activism.

You are right. I was responding to the panel comments that talked only about the 60's women's movement. 

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