S02.E02: Sagrona Teema

[Mr. Sparkle]

Cassian caught in a rebel turf war. Mon’s wedding woes mount. The Ferrix survivors face inspection.

Edited April 23 by Mr. Sparkle

[Fool to cry]

My reaction when the final shot revealed what planet Cassian had been this whole time:
 

Edited April 23 by Fool to cry

[thuganomics85]

Mon Mothma: "Yeah, so Tay is having some financial trouble and still is all weird about our past relationship, so this might be a problem.  I'll meet up with him next week about finding a number to keep him quiet.:

Luthen:  "Oh, I have a number for him.  6.  As in how many feet I'm going to bury this guy before he blabs away everything!"

 

 

He might not have a lot of dialogue compared to other leads in television, but Diego Luna really knows how to bring on the reaction shots!  All of Cassian's reactions to the way those fools were going on kept cracking me up.  Although, I so want to know the rules over that challenge they were doing, because it came off like a very intense variation of "Rock, Paper, "Scissors!"  At least he's out of there (did not predict what planet he was on!), but I wonder if we'll ever see any of the survivors again or will they be too incompetent to ever make it to the Rebel Alliance stages.

Syril Karn is now managing the same department he use to slave away in!  And, of course, he's acting like this is the most important and noble job of all time!  Oh, how I missed your delusional, whiny ass, buddy!  But, hey, he and Dedra are... a thing?  Kind of?  Doesn't sound like she's really into it, but since she's clearly in the driver's seat of that relationship, I guess she's willing to roll with someone who will fall in line with whatever she says.

Got worried for Bex there during that scene with the Imperial officer who was clearly trying to make a pass on her.  This audit seems to be a major thorn for her, Brasso, and the gang.  Hope Cassain gets there, soon!

Edited April 23 by thuganomics85

[Fool to cry]

I know there are going to be fan complaints about the comical stupidity of the squabbling rebel forces but I think the point of it was(besides delaying Cassian's return to his friends) was to show how the Rebellion were no where near ready to face the Imperials in battle. Sure they're good at spy stuff and commando missions involving a small number but as an army in a military engagement they had a long way to go.

[Msample]

9 hours ago, Fool to cry said:

My reaction when the final shot revealed what planet Cassian had been this whole time:
 

I missed it at first then realized it was Yavin 4.

Edited April 23 by Msample

[Raja]

8 hours ago, thuganomics85 said:

Syril Karn is now managing the same department he use to slave away in!  And, of course, he's acting like this is the most important and noble job of all time!  Oh, how I missed your delusional, whiny ass, buddy!  But, hey, he and Dedra are... a thing?  Kind of?  Doesn't sound like she's really into it, but since she's clearly in the driver's seat of that relationship, I guess she's willing to roll with someone who will fall in line with whatever she says.

When they showed up together, I held the scream of NO! from going audible. Perhaps having a proper spouse/partner is important to make rank in the empire. And a loyal puppy fulfills that requirement as a possible hostage to keep Dedra in line.

[Fool to cry]

1 minute ago, Msample said:

I missed it - what planet ?

Yavin IV, the future Rebel base in A New Hope and Rogue One. I've seen a lot of reactors on Youtube miss it.

 

 

[angora]

Nervous for Bix, Brasso, Wilmon, and B2EMO--that scene between Bix and the lieutenant was especially nervewracking! But I liked seeing their interactions with the locals who were doing what they can to keep them informed and protected.

Intrigued by this new breakdown between Mon and Tay. Obviously she and Luthen have *very* different ideas about how to handle it, lol. I also liked the conversation between Mon and Vel.

Not as much Cassian in this episode, but I loved his reactions to the bargain-bin rebels. If he thought the rebels on Aldhani were ill-prepared, that's nothing compared to these clowns! I laughed out at this exchange:

CASSIAN: “You need a perimeter.”

WOULD-BE LEADER: “I was just about to do that!”

CASSIAN: (resignedly) “That’s a good idea.”

Just overall, I enjoyed him repeatedly advising the people who captured him, and he's so good at reading the situation and waiting for his moment.

Oh man, Syril is back on his old corpo mojo. The way he gestured at something and then literally *snapped his fingers* at the new employee who looked where he'd been pointing? He is so high on his own success story. Pitch-perfect in character, no notes.

[wanderingstar]

Syril is still Syril. But now he has a fascist girlfriend. Yay?

Cassian really has grown as shown by his savvy manipulating of the would-be rebels. That one dude saying "Everything is so negative with you" cracked me up.

That creepy imperial officer circling Bix made me rage.

[Sarah 103]

On 4/23/2025 at 2:24 AM, thuganomics85 said:

Syril Karn is now managing the same department he use to slave away in!  And, of course, he's acting like this is the most important and noble job of all time! 

He does seem like the kind who'd get promoted to middle management in an organization like the Empire. 

On 4/23/2025 at 10:41 AM, Raja said:

Perhaps having a proper spouse/partner is important to make rank in the empire. 

That makes sense to me. It's as good an explanation as any.

[Orbert]

Syril and Dedra, of course.  Last episode, I noted that we were caught up on almost everyone, and I was specifically thinking of Syril, since we saw plenty of Dedra.  They're living together (?) but if we'd seen that in "One Year Later" that would've been too much, I think.  It would have been too obviously a checklist of where everyone is a year later, and possibly even distracted from other, more important stuff.  But yeah, here they are.  They're both so weird and stilted, even with each other, that it makes sense in a way.

I could have done with less than a full episode of Cassian watching the rebels blundering about, waiting for his moment, but they did at least make it mostly entertaining.  I liked how he kept trying to advise and help them, knowing that they're all actually on the same side.  The aforementioned perimeter, the tip about collecting water in a tarp while it's raining, etc.  But obviously when he finally got the chance to get the hell out of there, he went for it.

Count me among those who didn't realize what planet he was on the whole time.  I wouldn't have recognized it anyway, though I do understand its significance.  I just saw him flying away, finally.  That shot was composed somewhat oddly, though, so the fact that they were showing us something about the planet itself makes sense.

[Fool to cry]

3 hours ago, Orbert said:

I could have done with less than a full episode of Cassian watching the rebels blundering about, waiting for his moment, but they did at least make it mostly entertaining.  I liked how he kept trying to advise and help them, knowing that they're all actually on the same side.  The aforementioned perimeter, the tip about collecting water in a tarp while it's raining, etc.  But obviously when he finally got the chance to get the hell out of there, he went for it.

 

A thing I really liked about that storyline is it shows how good Cassian is as at being a Rebel operative in just a year.  He handled that crazy situation very well. He was calm and patient letting these guys blunder as he waited for his chance to escape.

[Orbert]

Yeah, still quick as ever on the draw, though.  I couldn't tell what kind of gun that was that he got ahold of -- it looked almost like a flare gun -- but he had no problem blasting his way out of there.  One thing they've made consistent about Cassian is that he doesn't hesitate to shoot someone he sees as being on the wrong side of... well, him.

[Ms.Moon]

I love the little glimpses into Chandrillan life we are getting from Mon and Perrin.  He's not jealous about Mon potentially having a lover in Tay.  A romantic affair makes far more sense from the outside than undercover rebel activity.  Tay might turn up missing if Luthen has his way.  And I understand where he's coming from it's way more dangerous for their activities if Tay is out there in the wild needing money and having this very important secret that can get not only Mon in trouble with the Empire but it also has the potential to shut down this rebellion very early.  I don't have to love that Luthen is probably going to arrange for Tay to "go missing" but it's very understandable.  

I'm sorry that Vel and Cinta aren't together but Cinta was very much into seeing the success of the rebellion at the expense of everything else including a budding romance. 

I also love that we are seeing what the rebellion has to grow into.  There's no "central command," there are no leaders there are cells of rebels carrying out independent operations, they are not necessarily in consistent contact with each other as the saying goes the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing here in these very early days of the rebel alliance becoming what it will eventually be.  

[wanderingstar]

Faye Marsay may not have had much to do as Vel in the first three episodes, but I will say, she gave some of the best reactions during the wedding festivities. Specifically, her face during Perrin's speech was hilarious.

[KimberStormer]

I liked Tay so much last season, it's too bad it's come to this.  I still feel what I felt last season: Luthen is not my favorite.  I don't like some rando new character coming in and bullying and bossing around the characters I know and like.  I want Mon Mothma to be the bully, and use him the way he's always using people, because she's the one who ends up leader and I really don't want it to be just by default because he dies heroically or some shit.  I want it to be because she's the biggest badass in the Rebellion, dammit.

Possibly the "band of useless squabbling idiots" Rebels will contrast with the more disciplined quasi-governmental body she will make it.  I don't mind her being the leader of the political wing rather than the military wing, but I do want her to be a leader instead of always taking orders from Luthen Sue, the OC who makes all the big speeches, does all the coolest spy-stuff, somehow turns out to be the best fighter pilot, etc.

Since I don't think I posted here about season 1 let me tell my funny Andor story: I heard that Tony Gilroy had directed Michael Clayton, and when I was on a plane, I was looking at the selection of movies you could watch, and saw Michael Collins there.  "Oh that's the movie by the Andor guy," I said, and I watched it, and I thought to myself, "of course! this movie about the Irish War of Independence!  All about ruthless guerilla tactics, spycraft, repression by an evil empire, and the maneuvering amongst revolutionaries to decide who is going to be the leader if you win!  I see how he went on to make Andor, it's a fictionalized sci-fi version of the same kind of story!"  It was not til like weeks later that I discovered that actually I had gotten the titles mixed up.  (Michael Clayton, I'm afraid, I did not enjoy very much.)

Anyway really enjoying so far (I am spacing it out, Episode 3 tomorrow) and oh, how I just wish for Bix and Bee and Brasso to be safe and happy, and oh, how I know I'm not going to get my wish.

[Kel Varnsen]

Can someone remind me something, when Tay was threating Mon Mothma saying that if he didn't start getting paid he was going to tell Davo. But didn't Davo already know he was laundering Mon's money that she was funneling to the rebellion? And even if he doesn't know wouldn't there be way better people to tell, like the ISB? Because if you tell Davo what is he supposed to do, since even if he wasn't aware of it, he was laundering rebel money which the empire might not be happy about.

[tennisgurl]

Cassian's reaction shots as the moronic rebels bumbled their way into oblivion were amazing, Diego Luna really does say so much with just his expressions. The gorilla goobers were pretty hilarious but I also like how it explored how hard it was to get the rebellion all on the same page and ready to fight the Empire, its something that I also think last season did well. There are lots of factions with lots of different goals and different ways to get what they want, some of them are well organized like Luthen's cell that Cassian joined last season, betrayals not withstanding, while these guys clearly have had no training and the second their leader was killed they fell to pieces. 

This whole mess also showed how much Cassian has grown as a spy, he kept taking control of the situation, and kept looking for the perfect time to leave until he grabbed it. 

That creep better stay away from Bix, the poor woman has gone through enough. 

Syril is back and he's exactly where you expect him to be. He's absolutely that guy who gets a tiny bit of power and decides that he's the most important person in the universe, crying over his greatness. Looks like he and Dedra are a thing, I can only imagine what date night are like...

The costume department is doing amazing work during all of those scenes at the wedding, Mon might be stressed but she looks amazing. I hope that Tay gets it together, both because I don't want him to turn against Mon because things got hard, and because Luthern is never afraid to get rid of any "loose ends" who might end up being a threat.

Yavin 4! I know that place!

[andromeda331]

Oh Dedra, you can do so much better then whiny ass. 

I love Mon's clothes and everyone else. Tay's about to be dead. It sucks but the rebellion is more important.

 I really hope Bix and the rest are okay. I was worried when the Lieutenant was talking to Bix and still am.

The rebels with Cassian were such idiots. I loved his reactions to them and when escaping when they were busy playing their game. And with the ship. Way to go Cassian. 

I didn't realize what planet he was on. That's so cool. I'll have to go rewatch it. 

[Shanna Marie]

17 hours ago, Kel Varnsen said:

But didn't Davo already know he was laundering Mon's money that she was funneling to the rebellion?

I don't think he knew it was specifically about the rebellion. He may have just thought she was hiding money from the Empire for tax purposes, which is a far more common reason for financial shenanigans.

17 hours ago, Kel Varnsen said:

And even if he doesn't know wouldn't there be way better people to tell, like the ISB?

He wants money. I don't think the ISB is so much in the business of paying off informants. If he gets Mon arrested, that's killing the goose that laid the golden egg. He wouldn't be able to get money out of her if the Empire freezes her assets while she's in custody for treason. And the Empire doesn't have a great track record for how it treats informants. He's as likely to end up arrested, as well, for helping facilitate the money laundering and knowing about her activities for a year without reporting it.

[Kel Varnsen]

1 hour ago, Shanna Marie said:

I don't think he knew it was specifically about the rebellion. He may have just thought she was hiding money from the Empire for tax purposes, which is a far more common reason for financial shenanigans.

He wants money. I don't think the ISB is so much in the business of paying off informants. If he gets Mon arrested, that's killing the goose that laid the golden egg. He wouldn't be able to get money out of her if the Empire freezes her assets while she's in custody for treason. And the Empire doesn't have a great track record for how it treats informants. He's as likely to end up arrested, as well, for helping facilitate the money laundering and knowing about her activities for a year without reporting it.

But what's Tay's actual threat? He tells Davo that he has been laundering money for the rebellion. Which means Davo is now a criminal who is supporting the rebels. I doubt "I didn't know I was supporting rebels when I was breaking the law" is a legitimate excuse.  I guess Davo could stop doing the laundering, but the fact that he already did it, is a pretty good way to blackmail him into not stopping.

[tkc]

It was very cool to see the Yavin IV temples in that closing shot!

We never got an overlay telling us the name of the planet Cassian landed on, but with the way the dysfunctional “rebel alliance” was operating, I wouldn’t have been surprised to find out that we were on the planet Temu.