S14.E20: Reunion, Part 3

[Cosmocrush]

11 hours ago, dmeets said:

I wonder how long it took Sutton to decide to check up on her friend. She didn’t even react when Garcelle left the stage, just sat down cause her shoes were killing her or whatever. Oh well, maybe Kyle or Erika will have supper with you.

At least long enough to change her clothes and pack up her stuff.  Doesn't Sutton have a phone?  Couldn't she have texted from the dressing room?  Or better yet, checked on her before she changed.    She seemed more concerned that Garcelle's abrupt exit meant Sutton's supper plans were ruined. 

4 hours ago, Chatty Cake said:

How about Dorit saying she’ll wait to reach out to Teddi when she’s doing better?  No compassion whatsoever. 

I'm thinking Dorito is actually doing Teddi a favor by not reaching out.  I know that dum dum motormouth is the last person I would want to deal with if I was very sick and trying to keep my spirits up. 

Edited April 16 by Cosmocrush

[dmeets]

1 hour ago, nexxie said:

After getting her daughters’ blessing, she is feeling free to explore - and may have news soon.

which is all Garcelle was ever trying to say, but Kyle spun that into Garcelle being an asshole.

I think that was the biggest thing to support Garcelle's "I get zero grace" statement.

Edited April 16 by dmeets

[Keywestclubkid]

8 minutes ago, Cosmocrush said:

 

I'm thinking Dorito is actually doing Teddi a favor by not reaching out.  I know that dum dum motormouth is the last person I would want to deal with if I was very sick and trying to keep my spirits up. 

its sad that Teddi brought up herself how Dorit never reached out and how weird that was when even Vicki did ...

 

7 minutes ago, dmeets said:

which is all Garcelle was ever trying to say, but Kyle spun that into Garcelle being an asshole.

I think that was the biggest thing to support Garcelle's "I get zero grace" statement.

Thank you .. thats all Garcille said" be who you are be who makes you happy" .. KYLE "HOW DARE YOU".... like what?

Edited April 16 by Keywestclubkid

[ivygirl]

1 hour ago, Surrealist said:

I mean, even Boz acknowledged that Dorit made a threat toward Sutton. Kind of boggles the mind she still wants to defend Dorit.

That she wants to be ride or die for Dorit is so wild to me. Like, even Kyle would have been a better choice? 

 

13 minutes ago, Cosmocrush said:

At least long enough to change her clothes and pack up her stuff.  Doesn't Sutton have a phone?  Couldn't she have texted from the dressing room?  Or better yet, checked on her before she changed.    She seemed more concerned that Garcelle's abrupt exit meant Sutton's supper plans were ruined. 

Yeah that was... odd. I'll give Sutton the thought that maybe she was a little stymied in the moment... but it was surprising that she was SO caught off guard. 

[Cosmocrush]

2 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said:

its sad that Teddi brought up herself how Dorit never reached out and how weird that was when even Vicki did ...

Oh, thanks I didn't realize that.  I'm glad Andy asked her about it.  She seemed to be searching for an excuse but basically saying she didn't want to be around someone that sick is pretty effing lame.  Not surprised though.  Dum dum Dorito has been lame all season.  

[byrd]

1 hour ago, Natalie68 said:

Same. Not sure why Kyle said nothing. Dorit is a c*nt. She also really went WAY too far.  Threatening Sutton at the end?  She is certainly feeling herself.  TOTALLY tone deaf.  Read a room FFS. This show will not get any better until they break up FFF.  I mean it is hanging on by a thread already.

They wouldn't sue her. Discovery.

Absolutely right, They are too scared reopen this investigation.  I believe Garcelle, the whole stroy made no sense. 

Just now, byrd said:

Absolutely right, They are too scared reopen this investigation.  I believe Garcelle, the whole story made no sense. Too many holes in the theory.

 

[NessMess]

1 hour ago, ivygirl said:

Speaking of being boring, etc.: Did Dorit offer anything during this reunion besides barking at Sutton any time Sutton opened her mouth?

Calling out Garcelle for being "unprofessional" from walking away from cast photo.  Which earned her two middle fingers in my house.

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[ivygirl]

3 minutes ago, Cosmocrush said:

Oh, thanks I didn't realize that.  I'm glad Andy asked her about it.  She seemed to be searching for an excuse but basically saying she didn't want to be around someone that sick is pretty effing lame.  Not surprised though.  Dum dum Dorito has been lame all season.  

It's not as if cancer is contagious. And I don't think Dorit has any issues that make her a physical threat to Teddi's health? What a stupid and uncaring comment. 

[Cosmocrush]

Andy also asked Erika something I wanted to know: "Why haven't you divorced Tom?" She didn't have much of an answer, except her divorce attorney reminded her she should get going on that.  I'm thinking the attorney is wondering when she is going to pay her legal bills. 

When she said she's not going to see Tom until he's actually dead, he's got dementia, there's no point I wasn't surprised by that sociopath's remark (Tom can't do anything for me, so why should I go?) but it made me sad that everyone else just went along with it.   I'll give the group some grace because this stage wasn't the venue for this discussion but I have a loved one with dementia and believe me there is a point to spend time with them.

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[Pi237]

15 minutes ago, Cosmocrush said:

Andy also asked Erika something I wanted to know: "Why haven't you divorced Tom?" She didn't have much of an answer, except her divorce attorney reminded her she should get going on that.  I'm thinking the attorney is wondering when she is going to pay her legal bills. 

When she said she's not going to see Tom until he's actually dead, he's got dementia, there's no point I wasn't surprised by that sociopath's remark (Tom can't do anything for me, so why should I go?) but it made me sad that everyone else just went along with it.   I'll give the group some grace because this stage wasn't the venue for this discussion but I have a loved one with dementia and believe me there is a point to spend time with them.

I Wish they wouldn’t have kept finishing Ericka’s sentences for her! They were cleaning up what she was really saying-which is how you put it-whats the point of visiting when she got all she could out of him?  Why bother visiting someone with dementia? Wow, that’s heartless. So, they just stop being a person to you?  And stop pretending you just ‘forgot’ to get divorced. Nothing that woman does isn’t calculated and self-serving. There’s undoubtedly legal reasons that protect Her for why she’s not proceeding. 
 

I definitely think Garcelle has heard these women say things off camera that they’re having ‘pretend amnesia’ about on camera. I wish she would’ve spilled more. 
 

And I wish someone would’ve flattened Dorit’s ego because she’s walking away feeling vindicated after being a screeching harpy all season. If Boz hadn’t been there, she’d have been crying and apologizing. Ironic that Boz tries to make it seem like Sutton called her an ‘angry black woman’ when she implied no such thing. Yet, Dorit Did toward Garcelle, used the term ‘child bride’ basically said she can’t be racist cuz her kids have seen non white workers in her house…..et etc. Sutton didn’t say Boz attacked her. She said ‘I don’t know why she’s so angry with me.’ It was a legitimate question with no racial overtones at all. 

[Cosmocrush]

51 minutes ago, byrd said:

Absolutely right, They are too scared reopen this investigation.  I believe Garcelle, the whole stroy made no sense. 

Who is "they"?  The police?   The insurance company?  Why would they be scared of the Kemsleys?

[Surrealist]

6 minutes ago, Cosmocrush said:

Who is "they"?  The police?   The insurance company?  Why would they be scared of the Kemsleys?

I'm guessing the police and the insurance company are trying to avoid being talked to death by Dorit.

[Cosmocrush]

14 minutes ago, Pi237 said:

I Wish they wouldn’t have kept finishing Ericka’s sentences for her! They were cleaning up what she was really saying-which is how you put it-whats the point of visiting when she got all she could out of him?  Why bother visiting someone with dementia? Wow, that’s heartless. So, they just stop being a person to you?  And stop pretending you just ‘forgot’ to get divorced. Nothing that woman does isn’t calculated and self-serving. There’s undoubtedly legal reasons that protect Her for why she’s not proceeding. 

Exactly.  We knew Erika was heartless, but basically admitting her marriage was only transactional is another low. 

I thought it was weird for Andy to bring up her "very private" son.  Was that so Erika could appear to have more going on than her new wallpaper?   I can't imagine what it would be like to have such a publicly cringe-y mother. 

And I really felt bad for Reba (and Sutton) when Erika kept saying Reba was a duplicate of her grandmother.  WTH? 

[hoodooznoodooz]

Kathy claims that Big Kathy was very cuddly.

[Shannah Banana]

I haven't posted in quite a while, but am all caught up now and ready to vent, and vent I will because this is my last season watching this same old, same old mean girl pile on.

I will start with Kyle since she is the OG.  I do not believe for one minute that Kyle is a lesbian at heart.  I believe Kyle is grasping at straws since she couldn't keep turning a blind eye to her husbands wandering eye any longer.  She found a much younger, malleable woman to play it safe with.  Maybe in her sad little mind, being with a woman isn't quite cheating.  She's using Morgan for her own self centered reasons and she is disgusting and pathetic.

Dorit:  She is one nasty piece of work, a total shrew.  If she talked to PK like she talked to whoever she has made a target, no wonder he fled the scene.  No doubt she did.  She is disgusting and contemptible. 

Boz:  She reminds me of a giant peacock, all self righteous and a know it all.  Not impressed and she deserves Dorit.  Haha, the joke is on you, Boss.

Erika:  She'll come back because this is all she has going on, and Bravo will keep her because she has more legal shit in her future and Bravo will exploit it.  She won't be able to be Switzerland all season long, and just pick on the perceived weakest in the group, Sutton.  Her take down is coming back around.

Garcelle:  I'm glad she walked out and stick around for more phony baloney.  She fulfilled her obligations and it was enough.  She can hold her head up high and know that she at least wasn't fake and playing the BH's games.  I hope the best for her.

Jennifer: A great personality and way too good for this show.  If I had any advice for her, it would be: run and don't look back.  You don't need the money like Dorit and Erika, the two cast grifters.

Kathy:  She really is that dense.  She really is.  I wondered, but it's become crystal clear to me, she really is that dense.

And last and least is Sutton:  She totally lost a fan in me.  Sutton disappointed me the most.  She had the best friend and ally in Garcelle and she threw it away because of her desperate need to sit at the cool kid's lunch table.  I think she hurt Garcelle badly and I think when Garcelle really came to the realization that Sutton was not going to have her back the way she had Sutton's, she couldn't take it anymore, wouldn't take it anymore and she was DONE.  Whether Sutton knows it or not, Kyle and clan, broke her.  She said at one point they wanted to break her, and they did.  Sutton, you may have managed to work your way to the table, being Kyle's bitch, but they will never truly like or accept you.  You sold your soul for nothing.

Except for Garcelle and Jennifer (and Kathy as she doesn't really matter) they all make me want to hurl and I hate this show now.  Thank you Bravo, for breaking me.  This was my last Bravo show to watch and you finally lost me because you let the same mean bitches run you season after season, and I just wanted sparkle and shine and mostly good times.  I can take a one on one throw down, but I can't take the gang up's and the playing it safe.  I sincerely hope this show tanks. 

 

 

[Keywestclubkid]

3 minutes ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

Kathy claims that Big Kathy was very cuddly.

Knowing how their mother treated them all I wouldn’t be suprised if she picked the “good” daughter and was more affectionate towards her more so then the others .. some parents do this and it helps them pit each other against one another.. 

[Rlb8031]

10 hours ago, bravofan27 said:

I think when Boz pointed out she was accusing Dorit or her family (PK) of setting the robbery up she was accusing Dorit et al. of a major crime, Garcelle got a major reality check. Did Boz say that Dorit could sue her? I'm not sure the context now, but I but that scared the shit out of Garcelle.

But she wasn't accusing Dorit, she explicitly said she didn't think Dorit knew anything. And frankly, saying it was an inside job in my mind means present and former assistants, nannies, landscapers, and anyone else who may be in and out of the house regularly. The fact that Dorit heard it as her and PK is interesting, because that isn't at all what was said either the first or second time she said it on camera.

[Pi237]

The whole thing with Mo reminds me of a saying I keep seeing proven true, “A man is only as faithful as his options.”

[Surrealist]

8 minutes ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

Kathy claims that Big Kathy was very cuddly.

This blew my fucking mind.

The Richards sisters are always walking over hot coals about what a wonderful human being Big Kathy was.

[angelamh66]

12 hours ago, ZettaK said:

Andy Cohen said that Erika was not charged with anything. Really? She is in court right now because her LLC received more than $20 million of Tom Girardi's stolen client funds. The LLC is HER. 

I am pretty sure he meant she has not been charged criminally. Being a defendant in a civil suit or an adversary proceeding in bankruptcy court is not the same as being charged criminally. 

[Surrealist]

One thing I will say now is that Jennifer plays the part of "the bubblehead" way better than Kathy ever has.  

[hoodooznoodooz]

“I don’t like to go out and party like that,” says the woman who was helicoptering her ponytail and doing splits, up until she started spending time with Morgan.

Edited April 16 by hoodooznoodooz

[dancingdreamer]

Gosh I'll miss Garcelle.  She walked  out, and she did it her way. Hearing  these women  talk about her after she walked, I wanted Kyle, Erika and Dorit  to shut the hell up. As if Garcelle’s  cares what Dorit  is yelling  after her. 

This third reunion  was boring. Once again Kyle's marriage, once again Erika talking  about Tom. I don't know if I'll tune in again, they are just not interesting  to me. 

Miss carcass out needs to eat something, she looks terrible. 

My last thing  to say, even  though  I was never a fan of Teddi,  I wish her well in her journey  with cancer, she has put on a brave face, knowing  stage 4 is a beast.

[Wicked]

I didn't even watch the reunion, I've lost interest in this group. Wonder if thr powers that be will shake things up for next season

[OlderThanDirt]

I can't remember the ages and don't care, but Dorit with children closest in age to Teddie's could have easily reached out to organize some activies for the children together.  In my world it would be sports and school driving but even a swim would be good. Of course she'd send the nanny, but still  the offer would seem obvious,for a normal compassionate human being.  Texts or flowers, which she didn't do either, are really meaningless.

[Surrealist]

Sutton's arc kind of reminds me of the Harvey Dent (Batman: Dark Knight) quote: 

Quote

You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain.

I still don't entirely dislike her, although I know others have changed her minds about her.

[Keywestclubkid]

5 minutes ago, Surrealist said:

Sutton's arc kind of reminds me of the Harvey Dent (Batman: Dark Knight) quote: 

I still don't entirely dislike her, although I know others have changed her minds about her.

I don’t dislike her .. I dislike what she did or eeer what she didn’t do and I’m disappointed but compared to these other ummm …ladies, she’s still the most likable to me .. do I think she’s now gonna be eaten alive .. yes 

[Surrealist]

Just now, Keywestclubkid said:

I don’t dislike her .. I dislike what she did or eeer what she didn’t do and I’m disappointed but compared to these other ummm …ladies, she’s still the most likable to me .. do I think she’s now gonna be eaten alive .. yes 

I'm going to write up something more in-depth later. I'm certainly not going to be defending a lot of what she did at the Reunion, or in general. I do know, lurking around the fanbase, that all of them are bashing Sutton for being a shitty friend. 

I can see why they think that way, but I kind of have a slightly different take on that. I've covered it in the other threads, but I'll mention it again within the context of Part 3.

[Cosmocrush]

I hope Jennifer Tilly stays a Friend Of and doesn't become a full time HW.  BRAVO brand fame seems brutal to me.  As a Friend she was pleasantly funny and honest and didn't feel the need to jump into the fray.   Also, it's probably a much better shooting schedule.   Either way though, I'm hoping she returns.  

[Salacious Kitty]

1 hour ago, Surrealist said:

This blew my fucking mind.

The Richards sisters are always walking over hot coals about what a wonderful human being Big Kathy was.

Stockholm Syndrome? 

[dmeets]

6 minutes ago, Surrealist said:

I'm going to write up something more in-depth later. I'm certainly not going to be defending a lot of what she did at the Reunion, or in general. I do know, lurking around the fanbase, that all of them are bashing Sutton for being a shitty friend. 

I can see why they think that way, but I kind of have a slightly different take on that. I've covered it in the other threads, but I'll mention it again within the context of Part 3.

If Sutton spends next season trying to crawl up Kyle's ass she's going to lose the audience even more. Friends of Kyle don't rate well with the masses. See: Faye, Teddi, 8.5. Plus Doorit reached peak popularity when she was feuding with Kyle, until she blew her goodwill by being a c word.

Edited April 16 by dmeets

[Surrealist]

13 minutes ago, Cosmocrush said:

I hope Jennifer Tilly stays a Friend Of and doesn't become a full time HW.  BRAVO brand fame seems brutal to me.  As a Friend she was pleasantly funny and honest and didn't feel the need to jump into the fray.   Also, it's probably a much better shooting schedule.   Either way though, I'm hoping she returns.  

I agree 1000%, and honestly I don't think anyone should bring their real life friends (the ones they most cherish) onto this show because I feel like those friendships implode by the time one of the pair leaves.

11 minutes ago, dmeets said:

If Sutton spends next season trying to crawl up Kyle's ass she's going to lose the audience even more. Friends of Kyle don't rate well with the masses. See: Faye, Teddi, 8.5.

Everyone seems to believe that Kyle is the person Sutton is "most desperate" to be friends with, but after last night, I don't think that way at all.

Sutton seems more attached to the idea of maintaining some semblance of a friendship with Erika, despite everything Erika has said about her. I haven't decided why I feel this way, yet. I think fear and insecurity drives a lot of what Sutton does and says. And really, it's not even just about Sutton. I think the other ladies (minus Garcelle, Jennifer, and Kathy) are afraid of Erika. We all watched her behavior after Tom got busted. The way she snarled at people like she was Satan. 

I'm old enough to remember when Rinna started out by talking shit about Erika and her stage act. Now she's like Erika's biggest fan. Even Kyle and Dorit have had their share of criticisms about Erika, and yet they kiss her ass now too.

Whether I think Erika is more bark than bite, who really knows? But I honestly believe her "friendships" on the show are really fear-based and not because any of the HWs truly like and trust her.

Edited April 16 by Surrealist

[Surrealist]

Also I was entirely amused by Kathy trying to finish everyone's sentences for them. LOL. 

Jennifer's the best Friend Of because she sits back quietly, listens and make the occasional face, but only responds when directly asked a question.

Edited April 16 by Surrealist

[hoodooznoodooz]

Kyle refers to lesbianism as if it’s something embarrassing.

[tranquilidade]

12 hours ago, ivygirl said:

Now that I've seen the end, I totally feel for whatever Garcelle was feeling, and I have 100% been in a position of noping out when I feel insulted and sidelined by a group (or the "ringleader" of a group). If she wanted to get away... I get it. But I kind of don't get what the ultimate point of walking away *for the photo.* She's there filming the reunion, so it's not like taking the photo would have been a proof point of genuine friendship. It's literally a cast photo. Again. No issue with how she felt or that she's walking away from the show. By all means... walk away from people who don't have your best interest at heart. But why not walk away *earlier*,  right when those people are being jerks? I'm sure she had her reasons for her timing, I just don't understand. It's like taking a group photo with your work team. You may be annoyed by or angered by your co-workers or manager. And you're justified in quitting that job due to the dynamics. But it would be awkward to quit in that moment. 
 

I'm happy to be (nicely) engaged on this, LOL. It's just what struck me when I saw the whole thing. 

Something tells me that she was in conversation with someone during the show via text  and was considering leaving-- making her final her decision from the couch.  Maybe an offer came through, maybe her son just said: mom this is stupid.....I respect her because they are assholes.  Erika was so outright insulting and no one confronted that vicious hypocrite who never told the truth about her marriage or what she was REALLY doing during or after her split from her ex.  This from a self proclaimed sex siren who was apparently not getting any in real life and whose elderly husband was cheating on her with an OLDER woman.  No one mentions this stuff but Erika can tell Garcele she's NOT interesting.  I'll take Garcele over the vulgar, plastic bobble head Ekrika any day.

Boz acts like an arrogant fool so full of herself and so powerful, and if you forget this she will remind you- picking ridiculous costumes so she can show off what she thinks is the perfect body and make everyone else look insane (success on that one)  but she practically had to choke the words I love you out of the man she wants to have a baby with....this didn't seem odd to the CEO expert on all things in life;  and she's an expert on Dorit who is the biggest fraud going--remember the people at the pool chasing her over unpaid bills.  By the way, what happened to her fake swimsuit company?  I am certain that the break in was staged but I don't think Dorit was actually in on it but she might have been because she is not above that.

And I don't blame her for being disgusted with Kyle who makes a sexy video then wants to retract all the suggestiveness because it didn't get Mauricio's attention the way she hoped.  This was all a way to lure him back so she could have the life she wants ---which she thinks is a marriage.  He's just a toy like everything else in her shallow existance because the universe, apparently,revolves around her.  She has to be impossible to live with and she doesn't get it he was planning his exit strategy years ago when she wanted another baby and he said NO.

Sutton is a pathetic friend so that was probably the last straw.  She only sees her own agenda and seems emotionally detached from everyone and also unable to argue effectively even the simplest point. However, she is the most benign  of the bunch. Not worth the trouble though.

 

 

 

 

 

[ivygirl]

34 minutes ago, Surrealist said:

Sutton seems more attached to the idea of maintaining some semblance of a friendship with Erika, despite everything Erika has said about her. I haven't decided why I feel this way, yet. I think fear and insecurity drives a lot of what Sutton does and says. And really, it's not even just about Sutton. I think the other ladies (minus Garcelle, Jennifer, and Kathy) are afraid of Erika. We all watched her behavior after Tom got busted. The way she snarled at people like she was Satan. 

I wonder if it's a "Southern thing." I know in the past Sutton and Erika bonded over the food. And maybe she reminds her of her mom (consciously or not)? 

[hoodooznoodooz]

Dorit saying, “Garcelle, that’s really unprofessional,” really ticked me off.

[ivygirl]

5 minutes ago, tranquilidade said:

Something tells me that she was in conversation with someone during the show via text  and was considering leaving-- making her final her decision from the couch.  Maybe an offer came through, maybe her son just said: mom this is stupid.....I respect her because they are assholes. 

Interesting and plausible theory! The contrast between real life and BS can be jarring & force you to action. Like, I don't need to be treated like this; the money is not worth the trouble.

Just now, hoodooznoodooz said:

Dorit saying, “Garcelle, that’s really unprofessional,” really ticked me off.

Perhaps it's already clear based on how she dresses, but Dorit needs a mirror.

[tranquilidade]

19 minutes ago, ivygirl said:

I wonder if it's a "Southern thing." I know in the past Sutton and Erika bonded over the food. And maybe she reminds her of her mom (consciously or not)? 

Let's not blame the South for this stupidity in my opinion it is all about strategy because none of them like each other. Garcelle made that clear and REAL.  Remember Sutton telling Erika she loves her in the middle of a fight just to try an slow it down.  How could she LOVE Erika when Erika treated her so poorly? Oh I know, because on the show it is about alliances not love and friendship.  It's all about alliances over petty nonsense.  None of them do an hour's worth of anything important in a day according to what we see.

[ivygirl]

Just now, tranquilidade said:

Let's not blame the South for this stupidity in my opinion it is all about strategy because none of them like each other. Garcelle made that clear and REAL.  Remember Sutton telling Erika she loves her in the middle of a fight just to try an slow it down.  How could she LOVE Erika when Erika treated her so poorly? Oh I know, because on the show it is about alliances not love and friendship.  It's all about alliances over petty nonsense.  None of them do an hour's worth of anything important in a day according to what we see.

I just meant--both are Southern and Sutton seems to want to bond over it.

 

[tranquilidade]

19 minutes ago, ivygirl said:

Interesting and plausible theory! The contrast between real life and BS can be jarring & force you to action. Like, I don't need to be treated like this; the money is not worth the trouble.

Perhaps it's already clear based on how she dresses, but Dorit needs a mirror.

Dorit is a clown with all those logos she wears and a classic fashion victim.  A fool and his money is soon parted--her addiction to foolish clothing she calls fashion is what destroyed the marriage because she seemed to be a lot nicer in PK's eyes when the money was flowing.  He went broke, got sober and saw what was going on.  Now he's out and she has no one to finance her "fashion".

[Surrealist]

39 minutes ago, ivygirl said:

I wonder if it's a "Southern thing." I know in the past Sutton and Erika bonded over the food. And maybe she reminds her of her mom (consciously or not)? 

I mentioned something in another thread kind of along those lines. I kind of wonder if Sutton had expected to become closer to Erika based off their shared heritage. Also, their mothers sound as if they have similar personality traits (for Erika, it would be her grandmother, since her grandmother raised her).

As @ivygirl mentioned, we're talking about their shared Southern roots, and not generalizing all Southern women.

I don't disagree with Sutton asking questions about Tom, etc. because it's obvious that the other HWs had those same questions. In the end, that was never going to go well for Sutton because Erika never forgets a slight, as where Sutton is more inclined to want to move forward after apologies are given. Sutton has a shit ton of issues in how she reacts in arguments, so I'm not going to defend all her blunders, but after confronting Erika, there was never going to be a real chance for them. I think she keeps holding out for the tiniest bit of hope.

I don't know.

Sutton mentioned, a couple of times, that she thought she and Erika were finally on the same page. That's why I get the impression this isn't really about Kyle. Erika wasn't the one who openly said she didn't care that Sutton wanted to be her friend, but Kyle said that twice.

I didn't care for Sutton mentioning that her takeaway for the season was that she and Erika seemed to be on better footing. I think her comment should've been about Garcelle and their friendship.

 

Ultimately, I believe viewers decide how they felt about what went down at this Reunion with regard to how they feel about these two things:

1) Whether you believe any of the HWs are real life friends, or if they're merely coworkers performing friendship for the camera. 

2) What friendship means to you, and what your criteria for a good (and healthy) friendship includes.

Edited April 16 by Surrealist

[Dr Mama]

24 minutes ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

Dorit saying, “Garcelle, that’s really unprofessional,” really ticked me off.

EXACTLY -- especially since Garcelle is an actual professional in the entertainment industry, and Dorit is just desperately clinging to d-list reality show fame because it's her only source of income at this point.

[tranquilidade]

I find it amazing how Erika goes so ballistic on everyone over the smallest thing said about her and no one holds her accountable for her vicious remarks.  What does she add to the show?  It was always a vehicle to get her performing life moving.  She got that she should leave now.

[JenE4]

18 hours ago, SouthernChick said:

I might be in the minority, but Garcelle bugged me walking away. She was barely scathed during the reunion. Sutton has been crapped on much more than Garcelle, and she takes it on the chin and moves forward. 

I don’t think Garcelle was attacked at all. I think (assume?) she was upset because they barely acknowledged her at all?? I mean, out of three parts, all I can remember is her pointing out that PK might have faked the robbery, and no one said anything—aside from Dorit having a meltdown over it. But over the course of the entire reunion, they mostly focused on Dorit and Sutton, then also Kyle. Even the others got a segment about them. I don’t recall if Garcelle even got a segment—or if she did what it was even about…other than maybe questioning why she was upset at Sutton for not challenging Kyle. But that turned to being all about Kyle. I think l when she said that no one even smiled at her, she was acknowledging that she felt left out amongst the women. And then after sitting there for like 10 or 12 hours or however long she’s there, she’s probably like Andy and the show don’t care about me, either. Why am I here? Of course if “something” happened, by all means, please someone point it out! It just didn’t seem like there was an “incident” that she quit over. It seemed like why am I wasting my time here when I can focus on my boys and producing Lifetime movies or whatever?

[ivygirl]

Bravo "blew up" the Vanderpump Rules cast, but I honestly think THIS is the cast that needs a reboot. With actual cred and/or money, not half-talented grifters.

[tranquilidade]

The irony is Garcelle wasn't my favorite until now! She turns out to be the ONLY one with real substance and I agree with the statement that she was not attacked.  I think she just realized how idiotic this all has become.

1 minute ago, ivygirl said:

Bravo "blew up" the Vanderpump Rules cast, but I honestly think THIS is the cast that needs a reboot. With actual cred and/or money, not half-talented grifters.

Remember when it was FUN to watch this!! What happened?

[Surrealist]

5 minutes ago, tranquilidade said:

I find it amazing how Erika goes so ballistic on everyone over the smallest thing said about her and no one holds her accountable for her vicious remarks.  What does she add to the show?  It was always a vehicle to get her performing life moving.  She got that she should leave now.

THANK YOU!

This will never not bug the shit out of me. 

Sutton's takeaway that she's glad she and Erika seem to be in a good place irritated me. She doesn't need to gas up Erika, or Kyle.

[dancingdreamer]

55 minutes ago, Surrealist said:

THANK YOU!

This will never not bug the shit out of me. 

Sutton's takeaway that she's glad she and Erika seem to be in a good place irritated me. She doesn't need to gas up Erika, or Kyle.

I just remember  what Jennifer  said, just how much they film, and how little is shown of that. She said enough  for three shows. I'm thinking  Bravo left a lot of fun on the floor.

[nexxie]

5 hours ago, dmeets said:

which is all Garcelle was ever trying to say, but Kyle spun that into Garcelle being an asshole.

I think that was the biggest thing to support Garcelle's "I get zero grace" statement.

In that scene you could tell that Kyle felt embarrassed and put on the spot. Garcelle may have meant well, but choosing to use the word lesbian went too far - which she could have guessed about Kyle. It’s also possible she used lesbian to get a headline - Garcelle can be pretty sly sometimes.