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S02.E12: Deal or No Deal Island: The Final Deal

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30 Helens

30 Helens

What the hell did I just watch? All season, it’s come down to whether or not the player made a good deal. But in this case, David just had to accept an offer and it was his? Regardless of whether or not it was a good deal?

Was that the rule throughout this episode or just in that final round? Did they tell us the rules had changed at some point and I just missed it? Because when the banker made that final offer, I calculated that David had a 50/50 chance of making a good deal. There was one high case and one low case on the board, and the offer was between those values. And while it was a great offer, I thought he should have rejected it, because then he would be left with one low and one very high case— still a 50/50 chance, but one with a potentially much higher payout.

But then David accepted the case and won, without having to open his case and see if he made a good deal. And while I’m happy for him, I’m also very confused and annoyed by what seemed to be an arbitrary change in the rules.

Also: Chrissy Tiegan? Really? But I guess if they’re just recruiting former suitcase models, Meghan Markle may yet make an appearance at some point. People seem to hate her new Netflix show, so she may have some free time.

Also also: Why David instead of Lete? What did Lete do to piss off Philip enough that he would choose to advance David over her? I was fully expecting some kind of reunion conversation in this final episode, given that it was a full hour long with only one banker game left to play, and I thought there would be time to plumb the depths of Philip pettiness. Alas.

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AntFTW

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2 hours ago, 30 Helens said:

What the hell did I just watch? All season, it’s come down to whether or not the player made a good deal. But in this case, David just had to accept an offer and it was his? Regardless of whether or not it was a good deal?

Yes. If he accepted the offer, he gets the amount of the offer. Same with Jordan from Season 1.

2 hours ago, 30 Helens said:

But then David accepted the case and won, without having to open his case and see if he made a good deal.

Well, he "won" after he opened his case because the case indicated that he made a good deal. However, it really didn't matter because he would have walked home with the amount of the offer anyway, and no one would actually consider walking away with a $5.8 million prize to be a loss in any scenario.

2 hours ago, 30 Helens said:

Also also: Why David instead of Lete? What did Lete do to piss off Philip enough that he would choose to advance David over her?

I must have missed something. Did Philip give Lete a case with a value lower than he gave to David?

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Thalia

Thalia

1 hour ago, zscore said:

Philip gave both Lete and David the high case. But they were different values because they rotated among three stations during the last challenge.

This bothered me last night.  Does this mean that someone in production knew that between Setup 1, 2, 3 that a) if Leti, CK, and David each took the highest case; b) that depending on the luck of the draw the person who went third would win, assuming he or she was finished in top two timewise?   The way it worked out made me wonder if Leti had a chance to win at all.   Didn't all of her people give her the top dollar amount too?   

The two equalizers in this case would be the random assignment of places in the game and the social game.   But I think in this kind of situation, unless you've been an out and out ass -- CK -- or if you're delusional like Philip who clearly would have lied to Parvati, by this time in the game no one really wants to be an out and out jerk and lie.  

I read an interview with Leti that was published after the show that took place after David won the challenge but before the Temple.   She talked about working with Philip from day two, and was really mad that he didn't lie to David about the case value.  

Chrissy Teigen, the Person, is someone who irritates me when I read almost anything she's said or done.  With that said Chrissy Tiegan, the Personality kind of amuses me.  I ended up liking her as the banker, but couldn't understand why NBC had to spoil her identity ahead of time.  Well, I do.  They wanted to bring more eyes to the show.  But it was a disservice to those of us who've been slogging along with Joe and the Gang all season.  

11 hours ago, 30 Helens said:

Also also: Why David instead of Lete? What did Lete do to piss off Philip enough that he would choose to advance David over her? I was fully expecting some kind of reunion conversation in this final episode, given that it was a full hour long with only one banker game left to play, and I thought there would be time to plumb the depths of Philip pettiness. Alas.

So much this.  So many of them were angry that it would have been fun.   

 

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30 Helens

30 Helens

10 hours ago, AntFTW said:

Yes. If he accepted the offer, he gets the amount of the offer. Same with Jordan from Season 1.

Was this stated at any point during the episode? If so, it’s my fault for not catching it. But I would have enjoyed the ending much more if I hadn’t been playing along to an entirely different set of rules. 

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zscore

zscore

1 hour ago, Thalia said:

This bothered me last night.  Does this mean that someone in production knew that between Setup 1, 2, 3 that a) if Leti, CK, and David each took the highest case; b) that depending on the luck of the draw the person who went third would win, assuming he or she was finished in top two timewise?   The way it worked out made me wonder if Leti had a chance to win at all.   Didn't all of her people give her the top dollar amount too?   

If everyone had all the highest cases they would all add up to the same amount.

But Lete had the middle case from LaShell, who told everyone "you don't want this case" but didn't say which one is the highest.

19 minutes ago, 30 Helens said:

Was this stated at any point during the episode? If so, it’s my fault for not catching it.

Yes. Joe said whatever money David wins will be his to keep.

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seacliffsal

seacliffsal

So, when Chrissy gave away his identity as a Survivor winner and said she liked Boston Rob better (as do I), David answered, yes, but did he (BR) win his DONDI season?  I was like 'no, because people actually knew who he was, unlike you...'

Not a fan of Chrissy for a variety of reasons, but seems a bit disappointing to me as there was such a build up all season for who the banker would be.

I'm not much of a gambler-I would have taken the $1.5 million.

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Taeolas

Taeolas

19 hours ago, 30 Helens said:

Was this stated at any point during the episode? If so, it’s my fault for not catching it. But I would have enjoyed the ending much more if I hadn’t been playing along to an entirely different set of rules. 

I believe it was mentioned at some point. But yeah the last showdown is always classing Deal or No Deal rules because it is the only showdown where prize money is actually being awarded. 

 

DoND rules say you get what you take. So if you take the deal, you get that money; if you take the case (and eliminate everything else) then you get the case. Good or Bad deals are just extra salt on the wound (or a thank goodness reaction). 

 

DoNDI needs a way to eliminate contestants as they go along, and a way to build up the pot, so they use the Good/Bad deal mechanic to control the eliminations (and have some randomness of sorts in it), but it makes no sense for the final showdown. And even in the mid game, you still "win" whatever deal you take; that is the amount that goes into the pot whether you made a good deal or a bad deal. 

 

I fast forwarded through a lot of the agonizing over taking the deal or not; but damn that was quite the run. Balls of Titanium for sure. Especially when he opened his case at the end and showed the 75$; he was courting disaster every round he went, right down to the 50/50 chance at the end. 

 

I suspect a lot of next season's contestants will be wiki surfing over more international Reality show pages to look for future ringers on the show. Though having 3 ringers probably through them off; first season they only had Boston Rob IIRC. (And the Doc joined mid-game this season so didn't really count). Pavarati being the open ringer and David being a hidden "ringer" wasn't really on anyone's radar I think. 

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bunnyface

bunnyface

I finally got to watch this last night and read some interviews.

I have no memory of Crissy Teigan on the original show, so that reveal didn't mean much to me.

I like David and am happy with his win.  I wasn't a big fan of Lete but it would have been okay.  Parvati would have been okay.

Phillip is still a crap person.  He felt like helping David because he had a family and Lete didn't.  I hate that excuse when players use it and I hate it when it's projected on someone.  I think Phillip would mightily disagree if it came down to him and David and someone decided David was more worthy because he had a family.  Everybody has a reason they want to play and none is more valid than another.  

Would probably be in if it was renewed for another season.  

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Ilovepie

Ilovepie

I think Philip is obnoxious and has a massive chip on his shoulder, but I did like that he left the decision up to David with his "do you trust me?". After what happened at Temple, that's a major mind game. The smart thing would have been to say no, but David won when Philip chose to be honest and David chose to trust him. But I don't blame Lete for being mad that her closest ally didn't purposely give David a low value case.

That was a great final game. Props to David, he was a strong player and managed to win despite the threat he obviously was, even if they didn't know he had already won Survivor. Lete said it best when talking to BR: "Not eliminating The Family was clown behavior." I loved the after show with Rob. He provided great analysis with each eliminated player.

I think revealing the banker a week before the finale was absolute horseshit from NBC, but since it's not actually Chrissy Tiegan's money, the identity of the banker is just so much drama. Still, not cool.....

I hope this show comes back. It's dumb, but I like the combination of social game, excursions and luck of the draw. I hope it comes back.

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