S21.E10: Jump (For My Love)

[chitowngirl]

Meredith and Nick return to Grey Sloan to treat a liver transplant patient; Bailey hosts an intern retreat at her home; Winston and Ben aid an unexpected crash victim.
 

Airdate March 13, 2025 on ABC, next day Hulu

[ams1001]

Has anyone ever picked up organs on this show without being waylaid by some other kind of emergency?

[LexieLily]

Jo and Link are getting engaged after they've argued all season about the babies? She has no concerns about getting married again after her first husband was an abuser to the point she fled and changed her name and her second husband left her in a letter for his ex-wife?

Edited March 14 by LexieLily

[dancingdreamer]

I was so worried  about those organs, I think that was it for tonight. I was bored, and some of the acting  was terrible ( But not Baileys,  never Baileys)..

[JeanJean]

 I think I like this group of interns the best, gasp! maybe even more than the originals, because they're  not overdramatic. (I know, that's weird, it IS a drama, after all, and I was riveted in the early years and for a very long time.)  Maybe it's because I can't imagine any of this crew seeing a ghost. 😄

That said, it really does feel like the show is petering out...

Maybe it's that it's so crazy out here that I don't need DRAMA on my TV.

Edited March 14 by JeanJean

[txhorns79]

9 hours ago, dancingdreamer said:

I was so worried  about those organs, I think that was it for tonight. I was bored, and some of the acting  was terrible

Yes, I thought the actress playing Dr. Moore was really wooden.  It was bad enough that it made what should be an interesting storyline into another boring one in an episode full of boring storylines. 

[bunnyface]

10 hours ago, ams1001 said:

Has anyone ever picked up organs on this show without being waylaid by some other kind of emergency?

I know.  Any time they leave the hospital to do something medical, I gasp and think "welp, that's the end for them."  

8 hours ago, JeanJean said:

 I think I like this group of interns the best, gasp! maybe even more than the originals, because they're  not overdramatic.

I don't know.  They have to keep telling Milan that Mika ISN'T DEAD, just not here.  She's a tad bit on the overdramatic side.  Even into melodramatic.  I mean she was sleeping with Blue very shortly before she took up with Mika, so...seems a little over the top.  

And I don't like that woman that is Jackie's mom.  She's flirting with Ndugu in the elevator in front of his friend/colleague.  "Doesn't feel right to start my day without you."  Then at the end of the day when he gets up the nerve to ask her out, she's like "nah, my kid knows you know."  Since that morning?

[ams1001]

3 hours ago, bunnyface said:

And I don't like that woman that is Jackie's mom.  She's flirting with Ndugu in the elevator in front of his friend/colleague.  "Doesn't feel right to start my day without you."  Then at the end of the day when he gets up the nerve to ask her out, she's like "nah, my kid knows you know."  Since that morning?

I mean, it's stupid to be flirting with your kid's doctor in the first place (especially when that kid has serious medical issues; it's not like he's just her primary care doctor that she sees for a checkup once a year, which would be easy enough to find a replacement for if they wanted to start dating), and even stupider for a doctor to consider dating the parent of a patient. Dating a patient is against medical ethics; presumably that extends to their immediate family members as well.

[JeanJean]

6 hours ago, bunnyface said:

I know.  Any time they leave the hospital to do something medical, I gasp and think "welp, that's the end for them." 

They're not even safe IN the hospital! (shootings, electrocutions...)

Or in the nearby bodega.

They should all stay home all the time.

Edited March 14 by JeanJean

[statsgirl]

Good try show. But i still preferred Linc's relationship with Amelia to this one with Jo.

I'm awfully tired of how immature these doctors are. Not just the residents but senior doctors. Richard is acting like a child because Meredith followed the ethics rules and didn't tell him because her patient told her not to.

But Millon is just plain embarrassing. So Yasuda left the program. She didn't die, she didn't get permanently disfigured like children in a war zone, she didn't starve to death. Life happens and you deal. Anyone as fragile as Millon seems should not be allowed to interact with patients.

Good for the retreat guy to know that he wasn't up to handling what happened to the interns. (Typical Grey's drama though. I've been listening to military counselors and what soldiers go through makes Grey's trauma look like kindergarten.)

7 hours ago, bunnyface said:

And I don't like that woman that is Jackie's mom.  She's flirting with Ndugu in the elevator in front of his friend/colleague.  "Doesn't feel right to start my day without you."  Then at the end of the day when he gets up the nerve to ask her out, she's like "nah, my kid knows you know."  Since that morning?

This is the woman who Ndugu went out with once and then ghosted, as the daughter confronted him on back in episode 8 before the break. Her daughter is the athlete that he and Amelia did the surgery on in the last episode.

The woman said that she would have accepted a few months ago (i.e. when he first dated her) not now that her daughter knows him; basically that he wasn't ready for the kind of relationship that her daughter would be expecting them to have. I think she's right -- Ndugu isn't ready for a serious relationship. He pretty much said so to Ben earlier.

Edited March 14 by statsgirl

[CarpeFelis]

People I wanted to smack in this episode:

- Daughter of Motorcycle Guy. STFU with the hysterics already and let the doctors do their work! The nerve of her asking if they knew what they were doing…

- Millin. Complaining there’s no team? She’s the one who wasn’t being a team player. She was acting like a moody teenager who thinks she’s everyone’s victim. And unless I missed something, she still hasn’t apologized for throwing Simone under the bus because she’s so jealous over the other interns having relationships. The jealousy I completely understand, but behaving like this over it is so immature.

- Richard making all the snotty comments to Meredith when they were supposed to be working together. That level of unprofessional isn’t acceptable in an intern, much less a highly experienced doctor. (Yeah, I know, shocker… this is Grey’s, after all.)

- Evynn for leaving the Alzheimer’s out of Tasha’s medical records.

- That patient’s mom who was blatantly flirting with Ndugu right in front of another doctor but then turned him down for a date. What?

[KaveDweller]

Do they normally send two different surgeons, including the head of a department to go pick up donor organs? That seems a bit wasteful, especially since there was also a driver. And while it worked out, couldn't one of them have stayed while the other went back to the hospital? The timing was weird, but I didn't get how the paramedics took so long to get there when they were still pretty close to the hospital.

I thought last week Milan was on her way to apologize to the one whose name I'm forgetting? So why this week was she avoiding her and being awkward?

Richard was acting like a 12-year-old, but at least he finally got it together and talked to Meredith at the end.

[ams1001]

1 hour ago, KaveDweller said:

Do they normally send two different surgeons, including the head of a department to go pick up donor organs? That seems a bit wasteful, especially since there was also a driver.

I doubt it. I just did a little googling, I couldn't find much on that specific step of the donation process, but what I did find is that the organ procurement organization is responsible for arranging transport to the recipient hospital, and there are medical transport teams that do that.

[KittyQ]

Again, Grey's suggests that the route from the airport to a downtown Seattle hospital winds through some little travelled forested areas. IRL it is pretty much highway and well traveled surface streets the whole way. Someone needs to give Grey's writers and directors maps of western Washington. 

[BooksRule]

On 3/14/2025 at 8:04 AM, txhorns79 said:

Yes, I thought the actress playing Dr. Moore was really wooden.

I thought that as well. I looked her up (Lena Waithe) and it looks like she's mainly known for writing, producing and as a comedian and has just fairly recently gotten involved with acting.

Best part of the episode for me (maybe paraphrased. I've already deleted the episode):

Simone: 'How are you still eating?'

Adams: (mouth full, voice muffled) 'It's cereal. It's a different stomach.'

(I'm guessing that this is the same stomach used when we're full from dinner, but still find room for dessert.)

[choclatechip45]

Heh. They scared of the retreat person. 

[CarpeFelis]

On 3/14/2025 at 4:52 PM, KaveDweller said:

I thought last week Milan was on her way to apologize to the one whose name I'm forgetting? So why this week was she avoiding her and being awkward?

She was and then saw Simone and Adams kissing. I assumed it was just an awkward moment for her to be interrupting, so she decided to wait, and expected we’d see her apologize early in this episode. I was just as mystified at first as to why she was now being a complete asshole to Simone. But it became apparent during her rant at Bailey’s house that she’s pissed that the other interns have relationships, while Masuda has left and doesn’t want to see her. Her behavior came across like “So  what if I threw you under the bus and got you yelled at by Altman. You deserved it because you have something I don’t.” All the maturity of your average 13-year-old.

[bunnyface]

On 3/14/2025 at 3:59 PM, statsgirl said:

The woman said that she would have accepted a few months ago (i.e. when he first dated her) not now that her daughter knows him; basically that he wasn't ready for the kind of relationship that her daughter would be expecting them to have. I think she's right -- Ndugu isn't ready for a serious relationship. He pretty much said so to Ben earlier.

And that's perfectly fine.  But if that's how you feel, don't flirt with him in the elevator pretty directly in the morning and in the afternoon when he asks you out, say "nope, nevermind."  That's the part that I don't like.  Her feelings about a relationship are perfectly valid, but she's all over the place in her behavior towards him.

[txhorns79]

On 3/15/2025 at 4:39 PM, choclatechip45 said:

Heh. They scared off the retreat person. 

And that was just the interns.  Imagine Bailey giving the guy a rundown of all the craziness she has experienced at the hospital over the last 20 years. 

[Lovecat]

Yeah, that retreat guy was ill-equipped to deal with Grey-Sloan level trauma.

When Ndugu and Warren were fretting about the viability of the organs in the car while they were trying to save the motorcyclist's life, I was waiting for the hysterical daughter to scream (hysterically, of course) "Well you can't have my dad's!!!"  They're not called "donorcycles" for nothing...  

[statsgirl]

14 hours ago, bunnyface said:

And that's perfectly fine.  But if that's how you feel, don't flirt with him in the elevator pretty directly in the morning and in the afternoon when he asks you out, say "nope, nevermind."

It seemed more teasing to me than flirting. But the point that I was addressing is that they hadn't met that morning, the relationship pre-dated the last 3 episodes of GA.

But then I like actress, Vinessa Antoine. I wish that she had stayed on the show longer.

[RedbirdNelly]

22 hours ago, Lovecat said:

Yeah, that retreat guy was ill-equipped to deal with Grey-Sloan level trauma.

When Ndugu and Warren were fretting about the viability of the organs in the car while they were trying to save the motorcyclist's life, I was waiting for the hysterical daughter to scream (hysterically, of course) "Well you can't have my dad's!!!"  They're not called "donorcycles" for nothing...  

that would have been much better dialogue than what they gave her. If my dad is dying on the side of the road and I happen to have 2 doctors show up, I'm not challenging them when they mention they need to do a suture. I felt like the writers could come up with better dialogue there. Just normal "oh, please, please let this work/please help him" dialogue would be better than what we got

[CarpeFelis]

Another odd thing about this episode: they opened the guy’s chest for cardiac tamponade?! Every time I’ve seen this occur on a medical drama someone withdraws the blood using a needle.

Yet another odd thing: the liver was too big. SFW? Partial liver transplants are done all the time. The liver grows back.

[Lovecat]

16 hours ago, CarpeFelis said:

Yet another odd thing: the liver was too big. SFW? Partial liver transplants are done all the time. The liver grows back.

I was wondering about that, too...I wonder if it could have had something to do with the patient's situs inversus?  If so, I don't think they made that clear enough.

[FnkyChkn34]

On 3/13/2025 at 11:23 PM, LexieLily said:

Jo and Link are getting engaged after they've argued all season about the babies? She has no concerns about getting married again after her first husband was an abuser to the point she fled and changed her name and her second husband left her in a letter for his ex-wife?

They have no chemistry and their relationship seems so forced.  It's too bad that they couldn't have just been the next platonic friendship, like Meredith and Alex.  

On 3/14/2025 at 4:59 PM, statsgirl said:

Good try show. But i still preferred Linc's relationship with Amelia to this one with Jo.

Absolutely.  Why can't they find someone for Amelia to be happy?  And why does Linc seem to have full custody of Scout?