Jeanne222 March 14 Share March 14 7 hours ago, atomic said: I don't think Michelle went on Ozempic. She was never heavy before and couldn't have lost more than 10 pounds. During the show she would tell David she wasn't a gym person at all and I think she might have just started working out more. You can see here that she's got muscular legs and not just a stick figure body. What is that black thing under Karl as right breast? It's not under the left one! Looks like a cup but surely there would be two! 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152254-s18e19-chicago-reunion-part-1/page/2/#findComment-8607469
Crashcourse March 14 Share March 14 A tattoo? 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152254-s18e19-chicago-reunion-part-1/page/2/#findComment-8607475
Hip-to-be-Square March 14 Share March 14 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Jeanne222 said: What is that black thing under Karl as right breast? It's not under the left one! Looks like a cup but surely there would be two! I think it's a big tattoo of a feather or a leaf. Edited March 14 by Hip-to-be-Square 5 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152254-s18e19-chicago-reunion-part-1/page/2/#findComment-8607481
Elizzikra March 15 Share March 15 2 hours ago, Jeanne222 said: What is that black thing under Karl as right breast? It's not under the left one! Looks like a cup but surely there would be two! I wondered that too! Quote I think it's a big tattoo of a feather or a leaf. Ohhhhhhh - that would make so much sense... 3 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152254-s18e19-chicago-reunion-part-1/page/2/#findComment-8607635
princelina March 15 Share March 15 It was always peeking out of her unbuttoned shirts! (Unlike her nipple, which only made rare appearances 🤣) 2 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152254-s18e19-chicago-reunion-part-1/page/2/#findComment-8607670
JenE4 March 15 Share March 15 8 hours ago, princelina said: It was always peeking out of her unbuttoned shirts! (Unlike her nipple, which only made rare appearances 🤣) Right. Karla was never trying to seduce the married men. She’s been showing off that tattoo, which maybe serves as a contour to imply the presence of breasts? 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152254-s18e19-chicago-reunion-part-1/page/2/#findComment-8607793
Bees52 March 15 Share March 15 14 hours ago, Racj82 said: I listen to multiple podcasts and about the show. And read people's thoughts about the show. I've never heard or read a single person not want to know when things started between David and Madison. Its also literally one of two or three talking points worth talking about. Its basically that and trying to get Ike to explain why he wasn't attracted to Em but put her hand on his junk at the honeymoon. Lol Then we definitely need more talking points, as those two don't seem to want to give a definitive starting time to their affair. Maybe David will finally tell it next time, who knows. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152254-s18e19-chicago-reunion-part-1/page/2/#findComment-8607795
Chatty Cake March 15 Share March 15 21 minutes ago, Bees52 said: Lol Then we definitely need more talking points, as those two don't seem to want to give a definitive starting time to their affair. Maybe David will finally tell it next time, who knows. Like Allen said, why would they tell the truth? 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152254-s18e19-chicago-reunion-part-1/page/2/#findComment-8607809
Jeanne222 March 15 Share March 15 7 minutes ago, Chatty Cake said: Like Allen said, why would they tell the truth? I suspect they have made a pact to never tell unless....they are paid big money for future appearances! Easy money and evidently many want to know! Heck maybe they will get a reality show out of their secrets. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152254-s18e19-chicago-reunion-part-1/page/2/#findComment-8607813
Chatty Cake March 15 Share March 15 15 hours ago, Elizzikra said: The number of people who didn’t have a diabetes diagnosis and had to pay for it out of pocket AND could afford it was probably too Small to have caused the shortage. Some of it was almost certainly the drug companies themselves making the drug more desireable by making it scarce. It also turned out to be much more effective in controlling diabetes, hence its popularity. Maybe you heard of some people taking it only to lose weight when you determined they didn’t need to, but that’s really between them and their doctors. Even a small amount of weight loss can have positive effects on health. I object to the characterization of people who use Ozampic and similar medications as “lazy.” You don’t know what other people have tried and what may or may not have worked for them. Also agree that there is really no evidence that Michelle has taken Ozampic. I don’t think she really looks like she has lost a dramatic amount of weight. I do think the clothes she is wearing on the reunion show (and in After Party episodes) are more flattering than those she wore on the show. I also think her hair and makeup have been great. Lots of people took it who didn’t need it. It was all over the news. Michelles hair and makeup was fine but she’s such a stank unhappy thing, it doesn’t matter. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152254-s18e19-chicago-reunion-part-1/page/2/#findComment-8607818
Elizzikra March 15 Share March 15 10 hours ago, princelina said: It was always peeking out of her unbuttoned shirts! (Unlike her nipple, which only made rare appearances 🤣) Yet I still somehow forgot about it when trying to figure out out what we were seeing under her dress! 2 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152254-s18e19-chicago-reunion-part-1/page/2/#findComment-8607849
Giddyup March 15 Share March 15 4 hours ago, Jeanne222 said: I suspect they have made a pact to never tell unless....they are paid big money for future appearances! Easy money and evidently many want to know! Heck maybe they will get a reality show out of their secrets. I wouldn’t mind seeing a wedding spinoff. I’m sure I am the only one but I think they are a fun couple. I don’t think David is a liar with someone he loves. Just when he’s verbally abused by that trash bag Michelle. Oh and poor Allen. He really didn’t deserve that but he’s handling it with maturity after his little fit. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152254-s18e19-chicago-reunion-part-1/page/2/#findComment-8607940
Giddyup March 15 Share March 15 On 3/13/2025 at 11:26 PM, JayDub1987 said: Just getting around to watching this shit show. Quick thoughts: David cannot tie a tie. You're a grown fucking man, dude. Watch a YouTube video or go upstairs and ask your dad to show you how. Oh, he doesn't live there anymore. He managed to get Madison to start keeping him up...OH! And he got her to buy a rental property. No way the former owner of a failed bar could afford Chicago real estate. Michelle....DAYUM! She is looking GOOD! Shockingly, Madison and David have convinced themselves that they're the victims in this whole thing. Fucking morons. David was absolutely victimized by that awful Michelle. Madison couldn’t help that she fell in love with her big teddy bear. Allen was a nice guy but once she saw David, it was game over for her. I wouldn’t call her a victim though. 2 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152254-s18e19-chicago-reunion-part-1/page/2/#findComment-8607946
Crashcourse March 15 Share March 15 I don't want to see David, Madison or Michelle ever again. All three were awful. Oh, and Ick, Emem and her "huzzbinn" Brandon. 3 3 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152254-s18e19-chicago-reunion-part-1/page/2/#findComment-8608029
Elizzikra March 15 Share March 15 (edited) Quote David was absolutely victimized by that awful Michelle. I disagree. Michelle didn't like David. That's fine. She was honest about what she didn't like. He asked for that. Their marriage was unpleasant, sure. They were a terrible match. But I don't think he was a victim. Quote Madison couldn’t help that she fell in love with her big teddy bear. She could have waited. If her feelings were real, they would still have been there when they both were done participating in MAFS. Or if they were so overwhelming that she couldn't wait, she could have said something to Allen. I don't see David as a big teddy bear. I see him as a man-child who moved from his parents' home to Michelle's home. I don't think he is particularly ambitious, which is totally fine but makes him completely incompatible with Madison. I have a sense that he is a player, who likes the chase and shooting his shot, but I am not sure he is ready for commitment. I can see him going back to his parents' house if things get difficult with him and Michelle. Quote I think they are a fun couple. I think they are a fun couple in a collegiate sort of way. Both of them like to drink and party. There's nothing wrong with that, but I do think that downing shots and staying out all night loses its appeal for most people as they mature. I envision their wedding celebration to be a tequila fueled conga line with lots of canoodling and off-color jokes and toast. Quote Emem and her "huzzbinn" That's been grating on me since episode 2. Edited March 15 by Elizzikra 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152254-s18e19-chicago-reunion-part-1/page/2/#findComment-8608238
Lindz March 16 Share March 16 Michelle is the QUEEN of deflection!!! But it's relevant. Wrong of her to use deflection to avoid answering questions though. Madison asked why Michelle wanted to complete the experiment & she asked her why she did & Madison didn't answer either saying she tried in the beginning. 🙄 Love that Michelle give anything to Madison's BS in that retreat footage & made her look stupid with her lies. Should've asked Madison if she still stood by that nonsense. Like I said, Michelle didn't care about them being together, she took issue with them lying to her face about it. I hope there's no M&D segment, they won't tell the truth. 😒 KF had the perfect opportunity to ask Madison what ways she was compatible with David when she mentioned that. Glad she owned being a punk & not telling Allen her feelings. David's gunna continue lying about that text, that cliffhanger's a waste. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152254-s18e19-chicago-reunion-part-1/page/2/#findComment-8608462
Lindz March 16 Share March 16 Really RICH of Ike to say her feelings weren't true, but they were valid. Sounds just what she said in her letter! He walked on eggshells?!! Because he wasn't being heard nor understood?!! When he shut down?!! Boy, STFU!!! Did him not answering questions set her off?!! DOUBTFUL!!! WHAT did he think this experiment was?!?!! WHAT was his goal?!!! WHY the switch up?!! Michelle Obama?!! He doesn't know her!!! He sounds ridiculous!!! He needs to go all the way AWAY!!! 2 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152254-s18e19-chicago-reunion-part-1/page/2/#findComment-8608472
Lindz March 16 Share March 16 (edited) Madison can STFU with blaming everyone meeting! & the girl chats being bitch fests. GROW UP!!! WATCH THE SHOW!!! SHE SHOULD'VE KNOWN WHAT TO EXPECT!!! She's sketchy as hell, running from the table at the retreat then that BS about her not being in D&M's marriage. Girl, BYE! SHE CHOSE HER WORDS & ACTIONS!!! HER & HER ALONE TO BLAME! Edited March 17 by Lindz 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152254-s18e19-chicago-reunion-part-1/page/2/#findComment-8608480
Jeanne222 March 16 Share March 16 Oh I think Michelle was horrible to David! She was never in that marriage. I too have to wonder why she stayed. Michelle counting the times she was wronged! She's a piece of work. She showed up at the reunion all glammed up to show David what he missed out on even though she didn't want him but by now he's so in love with Madison he can't remember Michelle's name! 2 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152254-s18e19-chicago-reunion-part-1/page/2/#findComment-8608534
Chatty Cake March 16 Share March 16 2 hours ago, Jeanne222 said: Oh I think Michelle was horrible to David! She was never in that marriage. I too have to wonder why she stayed. Michelle counting the times she was wronged! She's a piece of work. She showed up at the reunion all glammed up to show David what he missed out on even though she didn't want him but by now he's so in love with Madison he can't remember Michelle's name! Yes, whatever work Michelle bought was tastefully done but D@vid wasn’t impressed. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152254-s18e19-chicago-reunion-part-1/page/2/#findComment-8608620
Lurk March 17 Share March 17 On 3/14/2025 at 10:05 PM, princelina said: It was always peeking out of her unbuttoned shirts! (Unlike her nipple, which only made rare appearances 🤣) I think the pasties/nipple covers Allen found back stage may have been Karlas. He made some joke about them. 2 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152254-s18e19-chicago-reunion-part-1/page/2/#findComment-8609497
LuvMyShows March 17 Share March 17 On 3/14/2025 at 5:02 PM, Racj82 said: Everyone was in the wrong here except for Alan. He was the only one legitimately trying. He's just wrong for missing the signs or ignoring the signs we all saw. What's been interesting is his apparently revisionist history, because I could have sworn I've heard him say things after it all fell apart, like "It was clear it wouldn't work" or words to that effect. But we know that he was catching very strong feels for her when they were together, given that he said, "I have love feelings for you" (or something like that). It's like given how he was played for a sucker, he's trying to downplay what he actually felt. On 3/14/2025 at 11:05 PM, princelina said: It was always peeking out of her unbuttoned shirts! (Unlike her nipple, which only made rare appearances 🤣) These have gotta be two different things. The leaf one that did keep making appearances, was above her breast and a little to the right of her nipple (as you are looking at her), and it was not enormous. This shadow/tattoo/whatever that was under her breast, was very big and slightly to the left of her nipple. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152254-s18e19-chicago-reunion-part-1/page/2/#findComment-8609895
Retired at last March 17 Share March 17 20 minutes ago, LuvMyShows said: What's been interesting is his apparently revisionist history, because I could have sworn I've heard him say things after it all fell apart, like "It was clear it wouldn't work" or words to that effect. He said that on one of the Afterparties he was on. But, he just kept hoping it would turn around, so he didn't stop trying. He will be fine - he's a good guy. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152254-s18e19-chicago-reunion-part-1/page/2/#findComment-8609916
princelina March 18 Share March 18 He did say during the season that he shouldn't have to work so hard just to get someone to tolerate him - obviously some part of him knew even if the other part was hopeful! 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152254-s18e19-chicago-reunion-part-1/page/2/#findComment-8610270
Elizzikra March 18 Share March 18 1 hour ago, princelina said: He did say during the season that he shouldn't have to work so hard just to get someone to tolerate him - obviously some part of him knew even if the other part was hopeful! It's like that last Christmas you force yourself to still believe in Santa because you want to get gifts... but deep down, you know... 2 1 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152254-s18e19-chicago-reunion-part-1/page/2/#findComment-8610328
Katie111 March 18 Share March 18 On 3/15/2025 at 7:46 AM, JenE4 said: Right. Karla was never trying to seduce the married men. She’s been showing off that tattoo, which maybe serves as a contour to imply the presence of breasts? I don't know why Karla gets so much crap for not having breasts. It's not like she had work done to not have breasts. I actually think she should be applauded for keeping things natural unlike all the work these other girls have had. 5 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152254-s18e19-chicago-reunion-part-1/page/2/#findComment-8610643
Racj82 March 18 Share March 18 19 minutes ago, Katie111 said: I don't know why Karla gets so much crap for not having breasts. It's not like she had work done to not have breasts. I actually think she should be applauded for keeping things natural unlike all the work these other girls have had. Literally no one would care if she wasn't constantly dressing and presenting as if she had cleavage to show. Also, causing the show to have to blur out her ripples multiple times. She draws attention to her chest with plunging neck lines, see through outfits, etc and there isn't anything there. No one has said there was anything wrong with her being flat chested. Its just hard to not notice is all. 4 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152254-s18e19-chicago-reunion-part-1/page/2/#findComment-8610660
Elizzikra March 18 Share March 18 3 hours ago, Racj82 said: Literally no one would care if she wasn't constantly dressing and presenting as if she had cleavage to show. Also, causing the show to have to blur out her ripples multiple times. She draws attention to her chest with plunging neck lines, see through outfits, etc and there isn't anything there. No one has said there was anything wrong with her being flat chested. Its just hard to not notice is all. I guess the grass is always greener because I would LOVE to be nearly flat. Never having to wear a bra? Priceless. I thought Karla actually looked a little better endowed on the reunion show. Just me? I thought her figure generally looked a little fuller and it was a good look on her. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152254-s18e19-chicago-reunion-part-1/page/2/#findComment-8610796
Retired at last March 19 Share March 19 She definitely looked bigger at the reunion. I think I commented on it someplace - she looked very close to Michelle's size. 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152254-s18e19-chicago-reunion-part-1/page/2/#findComment-8610892
Bees52 March 19 Share March 19 So all this time, Karla hasn't forgotten, and certainly has not forgiven that Juan said he had so much fun that he forgot about her while on the honeymoon. She was almost done then. 4 1 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152254-s18e19-chicago-reunion-part-1/page/2/#findComment-8610913
princelina Saturday at 02:26 AM Share Saturday at 02:26 AM I finallly got around to watching this (I only watched part 2 long enough to see David's answer). He is obviously a big old liar, sticking to the Liar's Motto: Deny til you die 😃 Michelle got good advice from Allen - hope she takes it. She clearly worked on her revenge body - she was close enough that I wouldn't think she used ozempic - just some self-denial and gym time - she strikes me as having the discipline for that! I did not care for her dress or Karla's - too much on one and not enough on the other 😄 Madison's and Camille's dresses were practically identical. Madison is slim and fit enough to have looked comfortable in hers; Camille is a little heavier and looked like she was uncomfortable and trying to balance a book on her head the whole time. I liked Emem's dress the best - it was pretty and she could sit comfortably in it. I thought Madison did the best she could for Allen - she "took accountability" and apologized and gave him credit for always treating her decently throughout the scandal. That's really all she can do at this time. Also she had one interesting point: that when the women got together they all bitched about their marriages. Now I know the show's/"experts'" reasoning for them living together was to support one another through "this process", but when you're going to deliberately mismatch people and then throw them all together, bitching and griping is what you'll get, which IMO makes them less inclined to go back and try with their spouses, not more. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152254-s18e19-chicago-reunion-part-1/page/2/#findComment-8613936
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