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S01.E05: 11:00 A.M.


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Really can’t stand the rude know-it-all intern (is that Santos?) Everything about her personality is off-putting.

I wonder if they are leading to something unexpected with racist white guy in the waiting room, or if he’s just there to show how frustrating it is to wait for hours and hours.

Who was the young guy going to the concert? I missed if they introduced how he was related to someone. Is he Robby’s son?

You’d think Whittaker and the others would have been more concerned about him getting a patient’s blood in his mouth. Seems like a big health issue, no?

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Poor Whitaker, what is he going to be wearing by the end of the shift?

So the only critique Santos can take is positive, she could be on to something about the vials but she does not like to be told no.

I knew something was off with the abortion kid, but I didn't think it was aunt vs. mom.

This episode just flew by. Please don't let anything happen to the kid Robby gave the tickets to. And we have confirmation that there is history with Robby and the pregnant resident, but some time ago, so he's probably not the dad?

Nice to get a bit more background on the resident with the ankle bracelet. I hope the daughter comes back for her mom soon.

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I agree with everyone talking about how quickly the episode flew by. Maybe it's because we know these characters a little better now so we don't need as much clumsy exposition.

Twice in this episode we saw doctors' put patient care at risk because their egos and feelings were more important. First Samira fails to risks her patients life and health because she was too emotional. Second, Robby and Langdon fighting to get an airway even though surgery was right there and the patients sats were dropping.

Poor Whitaker. The scrubs thing is sad and funny but I share more concern about how Whitaker got a face full of blood. Isn't there some kind of post-exposure protocol?

3 hours ago, marceline said:

I agree with everyone talking about how quickly the episode flew by. Maybe it's because we know these characters a little better now so we don't need as much clumsy exposition.

Twice in this episode we saw doctors' put patient care at risk because their egos and feelings were more important. First Samira fails to risks her patients life and health because she was too emotional. Second, Robby and Langdon fighting to get an airway even though surgery was right there and the patients sats were dropping.

Poor Whitaker. The scrubs thing is sad and funny but I share more concern about how Whitaker got a face full of blood. Isn't there some kind of post-exposure protocol?

Normally if a non surgical procedure is working, they try not to do surgery.  It was touch and go, but once you're in the middle of a procedure, it's almost more risky to pull out all that equipment and prep him for surgery. 

I think Santos is looking for any reason not to take the blame for her fuck ups.  One vial not opening doesn't mean they're all bad.  Maybe she didn't have a good grip,   It's not like she's some brilliant doctor who is allowed to be a terror.  She's still learning, and thinks she should call the shots over a resident or attending. Show her the door. 

 

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14 hours ago, JeanJean said:

I dislike Santos more every week

I'll take Santos all day every day over Slow Mo who took credit over Dr. King for blister gushing guy. I know she's in Robby's doghouse so maybe she figures this will buy her some credit with him. And it happens all the time in the real world and can get you President of the United States. But in the medical field that will come back to bite if people assume you are more capable than you actually are. Also, it just makes you a really shitty person. 

Giant rude dude is going to lose it for sure.

The tonsillectomy complication was interesting because it's never shown and that actually happened near me and the child died. At the hospital where the operation was performed the department was shut down while they investigated because there had been 4 similar incidents although no deaths. Apparently it's a dangerous complication but really not talked about much. 

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I love this show, it's just brilliant.  I liked the Whitaker got sparky with the head/throat surgeon.  Poor Whitaker the running gag of splatter on hhisScrubs has gotten old.

I adored Dr King, she's a great teacher and really competent.  She's obviously ahead of the med students but, I don't quite know where she fits in, I'm guessing she's at the same level as Mohan.

Santos gets worse and more annoying every week. She really can't accept being wrong. Langdon made an excellent point, experience is just as valuable as textbooks and she's there to learn. I can't believe she wanted to blame the drug manufacturer because she couldn't accept she was wrong and jumping the gun.  I take Garcia's 3 way with Madonna comment as confirmation she has a thing for Santos. 

We also got confirmation that Robby/Collins have history as i suspected but, I don't think he's the Baby Daddy. 

I'm now really,  really worried that something will happen at the Music Festival,  I was hoping they wouldn't go there. 

16 hours ago, Cotypubby said:

Who was the young guy going to the concert? I missed if they introduced how he was related to someone. Is he Robby’s son?

Dr Robby's son, Jake. Robby mentioned him when the Fentenyl kid came in, about how that kid is the same age as Jake. I really liked Jake, even if he ditched his dad for a girl. 

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7 hours ago, marceline said:

I agree with everyone talking about how quickly the episode flew by. Maybe it's because we know these characters a little better now so we don't need as much clumsy exposition.

Twice in this episode we saw doctors' put patient care at risk because their egos and feelings were more important. First Samira fails to risks her patients life and health because she was too emotional. Second, Robby and Langdon fighting to get an airway even though surgery was right there and the patients sats were dropping.

Poor Whitaker. The scrubs thing is sad and funny but I share more concern about how Whitaker got a face full of blood. Isn't there some kind of post-exposure protocol?

There should be.  Amongst other things, he was doing an I&D on the guy's leg and there were bodily fluids, though not necessarily blood, going to be released.  The infection control protocol would require he wear eye protection at the very least.  The most appropriate procedure would've been to wear a cover gown over his scrubs and a mask over his nose and mouth in addition to the eyewear.

Same thing with tonsil kid.  He was bleeding all over the place when he came in.  Everyone should've been wearing cover gowns and eye protection.  Even though he was supposedly stable when the projectile bleeding started, there was no reason for everyone to be standing around unprotected.

And, yes, once Whittaker got a faceful of blood, one of the other docs should've stepped in and Whittaker sent to wash up immediately.  Blood work from the patient would've also been required.  Hanging around with blood drying on his face would not be allowed.

The abortion story was completely unbelievable, too. The kid and her aunt went to the ER to schedule an abortion for later that day? Who does that?  They are in Pittsburgh; not Podunk. I am sure there are multiple actual medical facilities such as Planned Parenthood nearby who would provide those services.  ER docs do not perform procedures that are not emergent, that's not part of their training or experience.  That Robby and his colleague had certification to prescribe mifepristone is a little far out, although I guess they might give it to patients who have ultrasounds that show non-viable pregnancies.  Many OB/GYN docs don't have mifepristone prescribing permits because it just isn't needed very often unless one is working for PP or another medical abortion center.  I've got the certificate and have rx'd it once in the past 4-5 years.  I cannot picture any ER doc wanting to be involved in the can of worms that is providing pregnancy termination care.  

Also, while it is true that Pennsylvania law does require parental consent for pregnancy terminations for minors; there is a pathway for the procedure without consent.  What should've happened is that the moment the mother appeared and the deception revealed; social services (the incredible Kiara) should've been called.  The pregnant patient clearly wanted the procedure.  In that case, a court order can be obtained to bypass parental consent.  The social worked would have clear guidelines as to how to get that started.

BTW, fudging the due date by a few days using ultrasound  is fortunately or unfortunately, not uncommon. I did not get why the ER doc insisted on repeating the scan, though.  She claimed that she had to do a completely redundant workup because the original doc who saw her wasn't there.  Well, that's the nature of working in the ER, the doctors work in shifts and pass patients along.  There was already an ultrasound on the chart, done just hours earlier by a member of the attending staff.  No need to repeat anything.

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I saw blood go into Whittakers mouth, I worked at Yale for a bit and know bodily fluids in eyes, mouth, needle prick, they have to test the patient for certain diseases. I hope it was just an oversight.

Jake....is his girlfriend a guy maybe? I just feel the way everyone was throwing condoms at him and saying girlfriend, it might be something not expected anyway.

I don't know why the pregnant girl was almost 3 months but I don't think a court order can do much because by the time they do it, she'll be beyond the time frame. I might be wrong about that.

I guess the mass casualty that someone with a gun will cause, you can just feel it, will be later in the season. I dread it because I think beyond how upsetting it will be, Robby will break.

21 minutes ago, BC4ME said:

Where are people seeing previews for next week? There's nothing on my Max through HULU but the episodes.

I’m watching directly on Max, and when the credits start it goes up into a little window that you have reactivate to keep watching, then the preview is after the credits. Not sure if that’s different if it’s through Hulu. 

45 minutes ago, debraran said:

Jake....is his girlfriend a guy maybe? I just feel the way everyone was throwing condoms at him and saying girlfriend, it might be something not expected anyway.

I think he said the girlfriend’s name. Leah, maybe? Could be they’re a guy but I thought the joke was just that all these adults in his life were independently slipping him condoms. 

Please don't let Santos be right about a dodgy vial cap, she's already unbearable. 

I thought the pregnant teen was going to quickly shove the pill she was holding into her mouth to start the process while the adults were shouting. I don't know if that would be a no turning back moment or not.

Angry big guy is being set up as going to be a problem. 

 

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20 hours ago, JeanJean said:

I dislike Santos more every week.

Me too, I'm getting really sick of her. 

This episode was a little more touchy-feely than the last few. I get that it was in service of a big exposition dump about some of the main characters but I thought the scene with the homeless woman, in particular, went on a little too long. I've come to expect a faster pace on this show. (Just a nitpick - still enjoying the show.)

Whitaker getting blasted and having to change scrubs has reached comical levels. They should really have dialed back on that. He can't be the only one needing scrub changes. What's he had now, five? Six? And it's only hour five. This isn't supposed to be a comedy. I think the machine said only two sets left. 

15 minutes ago, Kelda Feegle said:

I thought the pregnant teen was going to quickly shove the pill she was holding into her mouth to start the process while the adults were shouting. I don't know if that would be a no turning back moment or not.

I was shouting "take the pill! Take the pill!" as soon as the mother showed up and the deception was revealed. She didn't listen to me. 

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6 hours ago, Notabug said:

The abortion story was completely unbelievable, too. The kid and her aunt went to the ER to schedule an abortion for later that day? Who does that?  They are in Pittsburgh; not Podunk. I am sure there are multiple actual medical facilities such as Planned Parenthood nearby who would provide those services.  ER docs do not perform procedures that are not emergent, that's not part of their training or experience.

This and the possibly unhoused woman being told to come back for a checkup on her wound bothered me. My husband lived in Pittsburgh many, many years ago. I asked him, "Do they not have urgent care in Pittsburgh?" Several of the cases we've seen should be at urgent care or other facility. No wonder the hospital is so slammed.

One wouldn't go back to the ER to have one's treated wound checked/have stitches removed; one would go to the GP or urgent care. (Though I realize that some people without insurance go to the ER because the ER can't turn away truly emergent patients without insurance.) Speaking from experience, one wouldn't go to the ER for an abortion (unless it was a emergency miscarriage, for example); one would go to a clinic that specializes in reproductive care.

Even having gone to urgent care a few times over the years, they've always requested that I follow up with my GP.

The ER is for emergencies.

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20 hours ago, Notabug said:

BTW, fudging the due date by a few days using ultrasound  is fortunately or unfortunately, not uncommon. I did not get why the ER doc insisted on repeating the scan, though.  She claimed that she had to do a completely redundant workup because the original doc who saw her wasn't there.  Well, that's the nature of working in the ER, the doctors work in shifts and pass patients along.  There was already an ultrasound on the chart, done just hours earlier by a member of the attending staff.  No need to repeat anything.

I got the sense that Collins has a personal stance on abortion that does not align with her responsibilities to a patient's request. Not only did reperforming the ultrasound delay the procedure, but it can also be considered a form of emotional manipulation to try to get the expectant mother to reconsider.

Include the fact that we know Collins is pregnant and I believe close to the same stage as the girl, she should never have been assigned that follow-up.

13 hours ago, bilgistic said:

This and the possibly unhoused woman being told to come back for a checkup on her wound bothered me. My husband lived in Pittsburgh many, many years ago. I asked him, "Do they not have urgent care in Pittsburgh?" Several of the cases we've seen should be at urgent care or other facility. No wonder the hospital is so slammed.

 (Though I realize that some people without insurance go to the ER because the ER can't turn away truly emergent patients without insurance.)

I think that was supposed to be the case here. She is possibly unhoused, and without an income or insurance. If I remember correctly, one of the reasons she left the first time was she was desperate to get her kids to school. School is probably where they get their only hot, balanced meals.

No money, no insurance she wouldn't have many options but to go to an ER which, can't turn her away.  I believe Urgent Care could turn her away if she did not have insurance, and no way to pay up front.

Also, without stories to follow we wouldn't have a show.

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