The View: Week of 1/13/2025

[falltime]

Monday, Jan. 13 – Brooke Shields (author, “Brooke Shields Is Not Allowed to Get Old: Thoughts on Aging as a Woman)

Tuesday, Jan. 14 – Josh Gad (author, “In Gad We Trust”)

Wednesday, Jan. 15 – Denis Leary (actor, “Going Dutch” and “No Good Deed”)

Thursday, Jan. 16 – Ben Stiller (director and executive producer, “Severance”)

Friday, Jan. 17 – Susie Essman (actor, “My First Ex-Husband”)

[TheGreenKnight]

Decent week. Looking forward to Essman Friday. They should make her a co-host for the day, that way she could be on the weekend episodes, too.

[SanDiegoInExile]

Susie is a last-minute (?) replacement for JLo, who canceled all her press to deal with the LA fires.

https://ew.com/jennifer-lopez-cancels-the-view-appearance-los-angeles-wildfires-8772813

>>Earlier Friday, a representative forThe View sent out a press release announcing Lopez and her Unstoppable costar Jharrel Jerome as guests for the Friday, Jan. 17 edition of the talk show, though a subsequent update removed both stars from the roster, with their slot being filled by panelist Joy Behar's longtime friend, actress Susie Essman.<<

Edited Monday at 11:13 AM by SanDiegoInExile

[Glitches]

“Going Dutch” is a TV series now playing on Prime Video. “No Good Deed” is the TV series now playing on Netflix. 
 

Season two of “Severance” premieres Friday, January 17 on Apple TV+. 

 “My First Ex-Husband” is Joy’s Off-Broadway show that “will kick off on Wednesday, January 29, 2025 with an opening night scheduled for Thursday, February 6 at the newly-renovated MMAC Theater” quoted from broadway world . com

[Shrek]

2 hours ago, Glitches said:

“Going Dutch” is a TV series now playing on Prime Video. “No Good Deed” is the TV series now playing on Netflix. 
 

 

Except it's not on Prime but (I think) Fox, it's certainly on network tv though.

Edited to say that whatever station it's on doesn't make it funny & I would be hiding if I played any part in it.

Edited Monday at 06:15 PM by Shrek

[Shrek]

Alyssa has gone full on squawking MAGA (not that she wasn't anyway) and is now defending the orange felon even when nobody is blaming him for something.

Her the buck stops at the leader (Newsome/Biden) and how everything is his fault including wildfires & the responses to them & her refusal to listen to actual facts rather than Trump talking points & faux news bullshit like it's because of immigrants/DEI policies/dams hundreds of miles away being removed/fish species and any other wild & crazy reasons is already out of hand & is only going to get worse.

I want to see her blame Trump for everything that happens in the next 4 years because "the buck stops at the top" bullshit that she keeps spouting now but I won't be holding my breath.

[Glitches]

Thank you for the correction. I knew nothing about the TV series “Going Dutch” except what I read on IMDb. Wikipedia says, “The series premiered on Fox on January 2, 2025.”

[SoDak girl]

I loathe and despise the maga girl.  Painful to watch and looks at her  phone for maga talking points to vomit back when someone else is talking - and sometimes even interrupts. She is tiresome.

[Haleth]

Ugh, shut up Alyssa. We know you are willing to forgive and forget about trump’s crimes, but some of us think there should be consequences for breaking the law.  We are not willing to let him off the hook because he’s old.  The next 4 years are going to be a nightmare and he’ll probably serve up a charcuterie board of new crimes.

Sorry, Joy.  Just because Pence did something right once does not make him admirable.

On Mon I’ll be on a plane returning from a trip to LA. 

Edited Tuesday at 04:21 PM by Haleth

[bluegirl147]

39 minutes ago, Haleth said:

Ugh, shut up Alyssa. We know you are willing to forgive and forget about trump’s crimes, but some of us think there should be consequences for breaking the law.

And this is why I knew I had to stop watching after the election. Bet she would be singing a different tune if they had evidence of Biden committing a crime.

[atomic]

Alyssa keeps sitting there and giggling about the idea of Trump facing any consequences for J6. She used to not downplay his role in the insurrection and characterize him as the threat to democracy that he is. But now that the Dems aren't in power anymore, the entire script has flipped for her. We should all just move on and get over it because Trump is old and consumes our lives too much according to her.

[Mollywolly555]

Sure, Jan (Alyssa).

Let's ignore crabby old crazy man.

We will have a new nightmare in his VP.

[GHScorpiosRule]

5 hours ago, Haleth said:

Ugh, shut up Alyssa. We know you are willing to forgive and forget about trump’s crimes, but some of us think there should be consequences for breaking the law

 

2 hours ago, atomic said:

Alyssa keeps sitting there and giggling about the idea of Trump facing any consequences for J6. She used to not downplay his role in the insurrection and characterize him as the threat to democracy that he is. But now that the Dems aren't in power anymore, the entire script has flipped for her.

Except. Not really. I couldn't find the sarcastic shocked meme/.gif.

8 minutes ago, Mollywolly555 said:

Sure, Jan (Alyssa).

or

[Shrek]

So she now wants to give the orange felon a pass because he will be 82 when his term ends (like he won't try & stay in power) but it's "bad optics" for Biden to pardon his son from charges that wouldn't get brought against 99.9% of the population. You seriously couldn't make this shit up if you tried.

I fully expect her to turn up on the show with orange lips one day soon from all of the ass kissing she keeps doing, if not worse.

[bluegirl147]

1 hour ago, Shrek said:

So she now wants to give the orange felon a pass because he will be 82 when his term ends (like he won't try & stay in power) but it's "bad optics" for Biden to pardon his son from charges that wouldn't get brought against 99.9% of the population. You seriously couldn't make this shit up if you tried.

I fully expect her to turn up on the show with orange lips one day soon from all of the ass kissing she keeps doing, if not worse.

As much as despise people like Kelly Ann Conway and all the other sycophants that stayed loyal to Trump Alyssa now pledging her loyalty again shows she is nothing but an opportunist. She wanted a job and she played the part of repentant former Trump sycophant because she knew that would make more her more likable.  In the end she has shown herself to be just another typical conservative Republican.  Lie when it benefits her.

[Gemma Violet]

I'm late to the conversation, but I don't get all the Alyssa hate.  Today on the podcast, she bashed Hegseth as being super unqualified and questioned his character, judgement, and experience.  That doesn't sound like a trump sycophant to me.  She also praised John Fetterman.  And on the show, I see minimal change in her opinions.  She sometimes is more strident and forceful these days to get a word in edgewise and I say good for her.  And if there are slight changes in her opinions, maybe the producers asked her (and Sara) to wear a different hat this season and push back on the anti-trump stuff to balance out the table.  I seriously doubt Alyssa conspiratorially planned this out and became a sycophant and is gearing for a job with trump.  I'd believe elephants can fly before I'd believe that.  I'm just as much a fan of hers as I ever was, and I can't stand trump.

Edited Wednesday at 01:46 AM by Gemma Violet

[Soapy Goddess]

7 hours ago, bluegirl147 said:

She wanted a job and she played the part of repentant former Trump sycophant because she knew that would make more her more likable. 

You can't prove that motivation. But even if it were true, can you blame her? As if everyone is 100% honest on their job resume 🙄 

[TheGreenKnight]

Everyone already knew Alyssa was a two-faced sell-out. She jumped ship at the opportune moment for the sake of her career (or so she thought, she probably would've stuck around now), not because she actually cared about anything. But I'm enjoying the fact that it's becoming more obvious now.

Anyway, he doesn't need to be in the news nonstop to see justice post-presidency and I'm not sure how or why she thinks media coverage would or should have any bearing on whether or not justice was pursued anyway. 

Edited Wednesday at 03:27 PM by TheGreenKnight

[bluegirl147]

7 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

You can't prove that motivation.

IMO she wanted to get along with her cohosts.  It was no secret Meghan McCain didn't get along with most of the cohosts.

7 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

But even if it were true, can you blame her? As if everyone is 100% honest on their job resume 

Judging by her resume it would have been no surprise if she had been a far right Republican. Her previous employers were far right Republicans.  So  her being openly critical of the Republican party in it's current state was surprising.  And now from what posters here have said she is now back to supporting the right wing party.

I'm not a big Ana fan but she still rejects Trump and his minions despite being a Republican.

[Spartan Girl]

Leaving aside Alyssa and her crap for a moment, I did enjoy Josh Gad reminiscing about Robin Williams. I’ve got his book on hold at the library.

[sugarbaker design]

1 minute ago, Spartan Girl said:

Leaving aside Alyssa and her crap for a moment, I did enjoy Josh Gad reminiscing about Robin Williams. I’ve got his book on hold at the library.

That was so lovely!

[Haleth]

Alyssa is trying to rebuild bridges with the Rs. I don’t doubt that she thinks both trump and hegseth are unqualified but she’s taking the party line (wrt trump anyway) of hey, bygones, time to move on. She’s hoping to be offered a role in the post trump administration.

How much do I love Tammy Duckworth and Jasmine Crockett?

[bluegirl147]

1 hour ago, Spartan Girl said:

Leaving aside Alyssa and her crap for a moment, I did enjoy Josh Gad reminiscing about Robin Williams. I’ve got his book on hold at the library.

Me too!  One good thing I can say about the View is they do promote a lot of books.  I didn't even know Josh Gad wrote a book till I saw the lineup of guests this week.

1 hour ago, Haleth said:

Alyssa is trying to rebuild bridges with the Rs. I don’t doubt that she thinks both trump and hegseth are unqualified but she’s taking the party line (wrt trump anyway) of hey, bygones, time to move on. She’s hoping to be offered a role in the post trump administration.

Amazing how she went from fear of retribution to bygones. Was she being disingenuous then or is she being disingenuous now? And if she did take a job in his administration and come January 2028 he decides he wants to stay and starts another insurrection would she quit again?

[Shrek]

14 minutes ago, bluegirl147 said:

 

Amazing how she went from fear of retribution to bygones. Was she being disingenuous then or is she being disingenuous now? And if she did take a job in his administration and come January 2028 he decides he wants to stay and starts another insurrection would she quit again?

He's already said that there are people looking at changing things so he can stay longer because they love him so much and he does such a great, wonderful, the best job & anyone who says that he can't do that because of the constitution or whatever are either telling lies, delusional or unbelievably naive. He's already proved he is above the law.

There is no way on this or any planet that he is just going to say "it's been great, see you around & goodbye". 

Edited Wednesday at 05:55 PM by Shrek

[TheGreenKnight]

2 hours ago, Spartan Girl said:

Leaving aside Alyssa and her crap for a moment, I did enjoy Josh Gad reminiscing about Robin Williams. I’ve got his book on hold at the library.

Also something unrelated to Alyssa, I thought Whoopi looked really nice on Monday's show.

Edited Wednesday at 06:30 PM by TheGreenKnight

[TimWil]

When Sunny said (through clenched teeth) “I wonder where the ‘Angry White Woman’ tropes are” I wanted to yell at the TV “They’re called KARENS, dummy.” My god, Sunny just gets worse and worse by the day.

Edited Wednesday at 07:49 PM by TimWil

[After7Only]

3 hours ago, Haleth said:

Alyssa is trying to rebuild bridges with the Rs. I don’t doubt that she thinks both trump and hegseth are unqualified but she’s taking the party line (wrt trump anyway) of hey, bygones, time to move on. She’s hoping to be offered a role in the post trump administration.

How much do I love Tammy Duckworth and Jasmine Crockett?

I'd guess that Alyssa makes more money on the View than she would working in the Trump administration.   Although I do think she is trying to rebuild some bridges to position herself for her post View career working somewhere else in conservative media.  

 

1 hour ago, TimWil said:

When Sunny said (through clenched teeth) “I wonder where the ‘Angry White Woman’ tropes are” I wanted to yell at the TV “They’re called KARENS, dummy.” My god, Sunny gets worse and worse by the day.

Iget where Sunny is coming from.   Karen is a relatively new phenomena (past 5-6 years).  And while the origins is of the term was white woman, the "trope" has basically morphed into  any overly entitled woman who doesn't just mind her business regardless or race.  Cashmeoutside girl (both the original and nancy mace) are both  angry and white, but it's not Karen behavior

 

[Shrek]

34 minutes ago, After7Only said:

 

Iget where Sunny is coming from.   Karen is a relatively new phenomena (past 5-6 years).  And while the origins is of the term was white woman, the "trope" has basically morphed into  any overly entitled woman who doesn't just mind her business regardless or race.  Cashmeoutside girl (both the original and nancy mace) are both  angry and white, but it's not Karen behavior

 

How about "angry white woman"? I would just call her a nasty bitch but that probably wouldn't do her justice.

Any idea from you?

[Sue in her 60s]

18 hours ago, Gemma Violet said:

I'm late to the conversation, but I don't get all the Alyssa hate.

I read the critics of Alyssa here, and I don't quite see it either. Before the election, she had interesting insights, and her input as a pundit on CNN was often helpful. She was not shy about agreeing with many conservative principles, but it was enough that she was anti-Trump. Post-election, she did not come across as angry that he won, as Joy or Sunny did, and is definitely asserting herself more at the table.

Alyssa doesn't make political put-downs and quips like Ana and Joy, or use dry humor as Sunny does. She seems to want to bring facts into the discussion - even if the facts themselves are disputable. But being analytical makes her seem colder.

I don't agree with her take on the political landscape right now, but I wonder if she comes across as open to Trumpism more because of her connections to people still in government. She doesn't plan on being a talk show host forever.

[athousandclowns]

I really like Dennis Leary  miss seeing him and will  probably see the one about the murder house. 
Since  I’m too lazy to look it up what does the yellow ribbon pin mean the woman on the end has been wearing and  now it’s multiplied . It was / is a symbol for a non profit I belonged to that sent packages and letters  to soldiers.  

[cinsays]

34 minutes ago, Sue in her 60s said:

I read the critics of Alyssa here, and I don't quite see it either. Before the election, she had interesting insights, and her input as a pundit on CNN was often helpful. She was not shy about agreeing with many conservative principles, but it was enough that she was anti-Trump. Post-election, she did not come across as angry that he won, as Joy or Sunny did, and is definitely asserting herself more at the table.

Alyssa doesn't make political put-downs and quips like Ana and Joy, or use dry humor as Sunny does. She seems to want to bring facts into the discussion - even if the facts themselves are disputable. But being analytical makes her seem colder.

I don't agree with her take on the political landscape right now, but I wonder if she comes across as open to Trumpism more because of her connections to people still in government. She doesn't plan on being a talk show host forever.

yeah, she tried to warn us about what more trump would do and she said she voted for kamala and i don't see her as moving toward trump just continuing to say what she thinks we are in for

[Sue in her 60s]

5 hours ago, Haleth said:

How much do I love Tammy Duckworth and Jasmine Crockett?

I hadn't realized Sen. Duckworth served 12 more years after she was shot down. A hero. And Rep. Crockett is a godsend.

[shok]

15 hours ago, Sue in her 60s said:

Alyssa doesn't make political put-downs and quips like Ana and Joy, or use dry humor as Sunny does. She seems to want to bring facts into the discussion - even if the facts themselves are disputable. But being analytical makes her seem colder.

Her facts are nothing more than her opinions. She loves to stand and shout a lot of nonsense but her rants are no more factual than anyone else's. And what annoys the hell out of me is that her intro sentence may be some conservative talking point, but her second is almost always guaranteed to be something about what Joe Biden did wrong or how Kamala Harris screwed up as if it's any of her damned business what the Democrats do.

[bluegirl147]

49 minutes ago, shok said:

but her second is almost always guaranteed to be something about what Joe Biden did wrong or how Kamala Harris screwed up as if it's any of her damned business what the Democrats do.

Meghan McCain was the same way.  I always thought with Meghan any advice she was giving was meant to be sabotage.  As if anyone would ever listen to her anyways.

[Mollywolly555]

1 hour ago, shok said:

Her facts are nothing more than her opinions. She loves to stand and shout a lot of nonsense but her rants are no more factual than anyone else's. And what annoys the hell out of me is that her intro sentence may be some conservative talking point, but her second is almost always guaranteed to be something about what Joe Biden did wrong or how Kamala Harris screwed up as if it's any of her damned business what the Democrats do.

YES x 1000!!!

Alyssa parrots the latest Fox talking points, aside from talking over and interrupting Sunny frequently. 

I have also noticed that Alyssa references her time or experiences (with authority in her tone) when she was in The White House, or name drop her Repub acquaintances to ediify the others (lol), but always, always, always excusing or justifying her positions/actions at that time. 

IMHO, her experiences are not relevant now given the coming 2025 changeover in staff and the chaotic free-for-all  fight for new policies that are taking place in her party.  It's a new game and new players, honey. All bets are off as to what will happen. Like you,  Alyssa, your political friends have switched their positions like dizzy kaleidoscopes to swim with the tide to curry favor and keep their jobs or move up.  

[Sue in her 60s]

1 hour ago, shok said:

Her facts are nothing more than her opinions.

I'll push back a little here, even if it sounds like I'm - ack! - defending a Republican. The View is supposed to be about opinions. Fact-based opinions, I hope, but people can agree on a fact and have diverging opinions on how to use that fact.

Someone here has used the term "giddy" to describe Alyssa post-election, and I agree. Her political viewpoint is closer to Trump's allies than anyone else on the panel. She certainly is not sorry her party kept the House majority, and now they have the Senate too. I'm guessing she also is content with the Supreme Court imbalance. Alyssa is keenly aware of Trump's flaws but she is not unhappy that his voters have ushered in almost complete Republican federal power.

[bluegirl147]

48 minutes ago, Sue in her 60s said:

Alyssa is keenly aware of Trump's flaws but she is not unhappy that his voters have ushered in almost complete Republican federal power.

I agree with this.  She might not have voted for Trump this time but she's not mad more people did. Her team won and she happy about that.

[TimWil]

I’d be fine with Alyssa being even more prominent on CNN as a Republican talking head if that means smug, odious toad Scott Jennings is shown the door as part of this current network re-shuffle.

[KittyQ]

23 hours ago, TimWil said:

When Sunny said (through clenched teeth) “I wonder where the ‘Angry White Woman’ tropes are” I wanted to yell at the TV “They’re called KARENS, dummy.”

I thought the same thing! 

[KittyQ]

22 hours ago, After7Only said:

I'd guess that Alyssa makes more money on the View than she would working in the Trump administration.   Although I do think she is trying to rebuild some bridges to position herself for her post View career working somewhere else in conservative media.  

 

Iget where Sunny is coming from.   Karen is a relatively new phenomena (past 5-6 years).  And while the origins is of the term was white woman, the "trope" has basically morphed into  any overly entitled woman who doesn't just mind her business regardless or race.  Cashmeoutside girl (both the original and nancy mace) are both  angry and white, but it's not Karen behavior

 

Perhaps I'm just not going to places where "Karen" has morphed into a term for all entitled women of all races and ethnic backgrounds, but I've only seen it applied to white women.

[atomic]

Nancy Mace threatening violence on Jasmine Crockett is not being a Karen. A Karen is just a general slang term used to describe an entitled person who complains to the manager about things others would not complain about.

A Karen is more like Alyssa today admitting that she runs to Brian to complain about all her co-hosts whenever she has grievances with them.

[Gemma Violet]

3 hours ago, Sue in her 60s said:

The View is supposed to be about opinions. Fact-based opinions, I hope, but people can agree on a fact and have diverging opinions on how to use that fact.

Right.  This was Barbara Walters' original concept.  Different women with differing opinions.  There doesn't have to be groupthink across the table.

[KittyQ]

3 minutes ago, atomic said:

Nancy Mace threatening violence on Jasmine Crockett is not being a Karen. A Karen is just a general slang term used to describe an entitled person who complains to the manager about things others would not complain about.

A Karen is more like Alyssa today admitting that she runs to Brian to complain about all her co-hosts whenever she has grievances with them.

I thought that the question was what is the trope for white women that is corollary to "angry black woman".  As far as I know, "angry black woman" trope isn't limited to a specific type of situation, and I've seen "Karen" applied to white women in various situations too, not just the cases where they insist on talking to the manager. But if "Karen" isn't sufficient (and I would guess anyone named Karen would like it to go away), then maybe try to start an "angry white woman" trope and see if it flies. 

[bluegirl147]

1 hour ago, KittyQ said:

then maybe try to start an "angry white woman" trope and see if it flies. 

Or maybe we just do away with tropes.

[TheGreenKnight]

1 hour ago, Gemma Violet said:

Right.  This was Barbara Walters' original concept.  Different women with differing opinions.  There doesn't have to be groupthink across the table.

The original concept was women of different backgrounds and stages of life. It wasn't necessarily a requirement that they disagree on every subject... That was more something Geddie introduced later--he wanted "sparks" and all that.

[bluegirl147]

2 minutes ago, TheGreenKnight said:

That was more something Geddie introduced later--he wanted "sparks" and all that.

He was a conservative Republican who had an agenda.  He used to give Elisabeth right wing talking points every day.

[Sue in her 60s]

12 minutes ago, TheGreenKnight said:

The original concept was women of different backgrounds and stages of life. It wasn't necessarily a requirement that they disagree on every subject...

Sure, and different views does not necessarily mean disagreement. One thing that bothers me about their discussions is that they rarely respond to each others' points. (Rarely, not never, and when they do it is usually to say they agree.) When it's their turn, they simply make their own statement. I think this is a product of their pre-show prep. They already know what everyone is going to say, and they just all give their spiel. A good discussion requires listening and responding, adding to and expanding an idea. It's hard to rehearse that without coming off as rehearsed.

[KittyQ]

1 hour ago, Sue in her 60s said:

A good discussion requires listening and responding, adding to and expanding an idea. It's hard to rehearse that without coming off as rehearsed.

It might be an interesting idea if before the show, they all got to see what topics would be discussed but not talk about what they thought about them until they were on camera. Also, give more time per topic so the conversations can evolve naturally. I would love it to hear for once, someone say, "You know, I didn't think of it that way" or even "I guess I need to look into that further", the way regular people do when they are having conversations.

[Soapy Goddess]

10 hours ago, KittyQ said:

I would love it to hear for once, someone say, "You know, I didn't think of it that way" or even "I guess I need to look into that further", the way regular people do when they are having conversations.

Excellent point. I would love for that to be universal, especially on SM. Unfortunately, that's not always the case 😔

[atomic]

Give me a break, Alyssa. Let's say Pelosi's reason for not attending Trump's inauguration really does go beyond her current health situation. It's still perfectly valid for her to choose not to attend the ceremony after Trump made disgusting jokes about her husband being brutally bludgeoned in the head by a hammer.