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S01.E01: Restoration


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On 12/26/2024 at 4:35 PM, OLynn33 said:

For some reason I had thought Allen was a Trumptard but he isn't, he's an old school Republican according to Wiki anyway. I was going to watch this show regardless as I'm desperate for something funny but now I feel better about it at least. 

Watching (sorta) now, since it’s between stuff I actually want to watch. Telling myself it’s really just All In The Family. Only thing is, Tim Allen today has a lot more baggage than Carroll O’Conner in nineteen sixty-something. I still like Buzz Lightyear, though. 

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1 hour ago, EtheltoTillie said:

This episode suffered from pilot syndrome.  I will give it another chance. In,Ike Kat Dennings. 

I will too. I like Seann William Scott. He can do much better than what he was given here. With respect to this episode, the scene where we learn what happened to the mom was well done but the rest of the episode just felt like one long anti-woke rant. We'll see.

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I enjoyed it.  The basic set-up was handled well and they managed to introduce the characters in a mostly non-awkward way.  I could do without the occasional political jabs, but the writing was stronger than a lot of sitcoms today (i.e.-the reboot of "Frasier") and there were some decent jokes sprinkled throughout. 

I find that I'm just in need for some comedy in my life right now and a half-decent sitcom on a cold Wednesday evening could fit the bill. 

This started out clunky as hell, but I sort of warmed up to it by the end. The kids were funny. It has potential. 

It's fun to see Tim Allen and Daryl Mitchell reunited from Galaxy Quest. Mitchell played a role in Fear the Walking Dead where he was also in a wheelchair, and I had no idea until now he is actually paralyzed in real life due to a motorcycle accident.

I don't know how much of this show is filmed before a live studio audience (if any) but that opening scene in the garage had noticeable canned laughter to the point where it felt awkward as hell. The show has a weird, filmed look to it that reminds me of The Connors. There's just something odd about the video.

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I would have pulled back on the political jokes since this was the pilot and getting to know the new characters should have been the focus.

Tim and Kat have a good chemistry as father and daughter...and I think the kid actors have potential.  

I hope either Nancy Travis or Patricia Richardson guest stars as the grandmother and former mother in law.  Would be like old times :)

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I watched this to see if Kat Dennings could do more than toss off one-liners (i.e. "act").  The pilot didn't convince me.  I don't know if she has any children in real life, but she did not come across as the mother of the kids on the show, especially the teenaged boy.  No emotional connection with her supposed children.

She and Tim bounced off each other well enough.  Maybe it'll get better after the pilot.

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On 1/8/2025 at 8:35 PM, SoMuchTV said:

Watching (sorta) now, since it’s between stuff I actually want to watch. Telling myself it’s really just All In The Family. Only thing is, Tim Allen today has a lot more baggage than Carroll O’Conner in nineteen sixty-something. I still like Buzz Lightyear, though.

On 1/8/2025 at 8:35 PM, SoMuchTV said:

Watching (sorta) now, since it’s between stuff I actually want to watch. Telling myself it’s really just All In The Family. Only thing is, Tim Allen today has a lot more baggage than Carroll O’Conner in nineteen sixty-something. I still like Buzz Lightyear, though. 

 

On 1/9/2025 at 9:05 AM, OLynn33 said:

I will too. I like Seann William Scott. He can do much better than what he was given here. With respect to this episode, the scene where we learn what happened to the mom was well done but the rest of the episode just felt like one long anti-woke rant. We'll see.

Well, it’s Tim Allen. I used to really like him but…politics. 

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On 1/10/2025 at 11:06 AM, iMonrey said:

The show has a weird, filmed look to it that reminds me of The Connors. There's just something odd about the vide

I noticed the same thing. I was wondering if it might be AI. I've noticed this with commercials as well. The days are gone I guess of really emmersive sets that make you believe you are actually in a character's apartment. At least for me anyway. Many shows now have an "odd" feel to me. And I agree with respect to the canned laughter being over the top. It is present on the Connors as well. I've given up trying to understand how tptb on any production do not appreciate how irritating this is.

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One of the irritating things about the pilot was how dumb the anti-Uber rant was. For one thing, if she ran out fifteen years ago while pregnant, the son shouldn’t even be able to drive yet. Second, it’s completely normal to have an Uber account for teenagers, they have way more independence that way, and if the parents are using the car it makes more sense for the kids to use it. If you’re going to make rants about the idiotic practices or policies of the modern day, at least make it for real reasons that a toddler can’t refute. It’s complete straw man hack writing. 

12 minutes ago, ZuluQueenOfDwarves said:

Second, it’s completely normal to have an Uber account for teenagers, they have way more independence that way, and if the parents are using the car it makes more sense for the kids to use it.

While I understand the need for Uber these days, I can understand Tim's rant about it.  He's about 8 years older than me and I'd assume that he grew up like I did (and just about every kid back then), where many of us were riding minibikes at about age 8 or so, then motorcycles by our teens, and driving cars on the back roads (supervised) before we even had a learner's permit! I get what Tim's saying about the independence of driving too.  It instilled a lot of confidence in us being somewhat independent.  I didn't know of anyone who didn't want their permit!  

The son said that he gave up on driving because he wrecked his mom's car.  With some lessons and practice, he'll get the hang of it and that will help his confidence. 

I get where he's coming from, but I know that things are much different these days and Uber is a good thing!    I understand both sides of the issue.  

On 1/10/2025 at 2:13 PM, JAYJAY1979 said:

I would have pulled back on the political jokes since this was the pilot and getting to know the new characters should have been the focus.

I'll give the show a chance.  I'm hoping they'll dial back the political jokes on both sides.  I've found that the main network shows can be the worst on that front.  I've given up on shows in the past when they just kept on and on with stupid little digs about certain people.  It's unnecessary and annoying.   

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On 1/11/2025 at 5:33 AM, chediavolo said:

Well, it’s Tim Allen. I used to really like him but…politics. 

I find I'm able to separate Tim Allen, the person, from his work. I've never liked him, personally. I remember all the way back when he was just a stand-up comic, before he ever got a TV show. I thought he was a hack. His material was mostly lazy "men do this, women do that" crap. Ironically, though, he ended up starring in two of my favorite movies: Galaxy Quest and The Santa Clause. 

20 hours ago, ZuluQueenOfDwarves said:

One of the irritating things about the pilot was how dumb the anti-Uber rant was. For one thing, if she ran out fifteen years ago while pregnant, the son shouldn’t even be able to drive yet.

In my state you can get a learner's permit at 14 and a restricted license at 15. Have they said what state they're supposed to be in?

20 hours ago, ZuluQueenOfDwarves said:

Second, it’s completely normal to have an Uber account for teenagers, they have way more independence that way, and if the parents are using the car it makes more sense for the kids to use it.

But she's supposed to be broke. How is she paying for the Uber account? And why is she broke? Did she rely completely on her husband's income? He sounds like kind of a loser, I don't think it's plausible they could have lived on whatever he was making. The whole setup for this feels lazy.

On 1/11/2025 at 2:18 PM, OLynn33 said:

I noticed the same thing. I was wondering if it might be AI. I've noticed this with commercials as well. The days are gone I guess of really emmersive sets that make you believe you are actually in a character's apartment. At least for me anyway. Many shows now have an "odd" feel to me. And I agree with respect to the canned laughter being over the top. It is present on the Connors as well. I've given up trying to understand how tptb on any production do not appreciate how irritating this is.

It’s the new TVs! I know there’s a way to change the setting, but I haven’t looked mine up yet or attempted to try it. I absolutely hate the way it sounds and feels it doesn’t feel right.

It was ok, but if it falls into the habits LMS did, where the more liberal characters are caricatures and have no resemblance to actual people, I'm out. 'I'm conservative, but realize those who are have more liberal views still have valid opinions and are not all crazy fringe.

There doesn't seem to be much connection between the mom and the kids. No tension because they've left their home, no complaining about leaving their friends behind. It just didn't ring true. We raised 4, this kind of a change would have evoked much complaining and angst.

I really just don't want heavy doses of politics in my "entertainment." There are plenty real world issues this family would be dealing with. Sure, their political differences will frame some of it, but not all.

Putting a tentative young driver behind the wheel of that car was just stoopid.

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