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shapeshifter

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I assume our login emails will not be visible on the forum, since that would worse than negate the reason for the change.

Right?

Followup:
I just logged out and logged back in using my email instead of my username.
My username still displays.
Does this means I'm all set now? 
Or might I have to repeat on my other devices or browsers? 
Stay tuned to find out?


 

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CM-BlueButterfly

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There's no date yet for the switch-over. We have a developer's site ready to go to see how everything works and, hopefully, make the transition as smooth as possible. It's awaiting activation by the site owner (who's been away for the holidays). 

As many shows are on hiatus and some community members may not visit the forum as frequently at this time of year, I wanted to give you enough time so that everyone gets a chance to check their email if need be. 

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CM-BlueButterfly

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I'll let you know when we have a date for the switch-over and I'll also send a reminder about the email log-in a few days before it happens. (I was informed that once the change happened, one would have to create a new account if one doesn't remember their email address, so, I think it's better to be safe than sorry. 🙂) 

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SoMuchTV

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3 hours ago, shapeshifter said:

Followup:
I just logged out and logged back in using my email instead of my username.
My username still displays.
Does this means I'm all set now? 
Or might I have to repeat on my other devices or browsers? 
Stay tuned to find out?

@CM-BlueButterfly  I just did the same - logged in with my email - and got logged in with no problems.

BUT...

I had some forums with unread posts on my homepage.  I opened one and read all the unread posts.  It stayed displayed in bold on my home page.  Did the same with two others - they stayed bold.  Tried "mark all as read" in one of the forums.  Stayed bold.

Does this mean the email login process is not ready for prime time?  Should I go back and log in with my username until you give us the all-clear?

EDITED - after I posted the above (which happened on my Win11 desktop, Firefox), I went to my phone (iPhone, Safari) where I'm still logged in with my username.  Forums were appropriately shown as read there.  I opened a couple more and they behaved as expected.  Then I went back to my desktop (still logged in with email) and it's now behaving as expected.

I'll leave things as they are for now (logged in with email on desktop, username on phone) and see what happens...

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SweePea59

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This is a nightmare for me. I have an old password written down, but it has less characters than the amount of asterisks showing as my password here.

I tried to log in to the email I used when I set up my acct here, but since I haven't used it in so long it is no longer useable, since I never used it during some two step verification mandatory set up. So I can't reset my mystery password since I can no longer access that email address.

If I change my email address, so that I can change my mystery password, it says here that I have to re-activate my acct. I can't find the instructions here for re-activating an acct.

I would really prefer not to have to start new here since I've been here since March 2014.

What does re-activating an acct mean? Will my acct and any of my stored info and stats change?

And how do I reactivate my acct, once I change the email and the password?

And can I change the email and the password at the same time? If I change my email and then have to log in again, I won't be able to since I don't know my password. 

I am hesitant to make any of these changes since I may never be able to sign in again, as myself. But apparently that seems to be on the horizon anyway.

I know that in the big scheme of things, nothing really matters, especially logging in here. But it's the little things in life that really get you. The big things, you accept. But the little things that should not be a problem can push you over the edge.

Can you please help me?

AllAstronauts

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Chiming in here. Staff know there are going to be edge cases where people have not only forgotten emails but have actually lost email accounts and have been just logging in with usernames for eons. You'll be able to ping staff to get stuff resolved (some of you have already begun so...) . No one will need to create new accounts and lose the old ones.

Yes, the change is basic net security these days. People can see your usernames and spam login tries with common passwords using your username - not only can they maybe guess your crappy password he says looking at the people needing to be seen but they can also lock you out of your account for x-minutes with bad login tries. This applies to just about most sites these days so if you have not encountered similar email-to-login requirements elsewhere expect to along with mandatory two-factor logins and all that. This site ain't that far into security yet but I could turn two-factor on and just not make it mandatory...hmmm....

No, no one than than staff can see your email addresses so no problemo there.

People are just returning from holiday breaks so these changes are not any time in the immediate future. I just turned on the new dev site the other day so that should give you a pointer to where things are.

It's no great shakes to convert the old app to the new standards, and minimal work really to do the look and feel stuff. But, as mentioned in other threads, major software version means it's a great time to clear the decks, look at the landscape, clean the kitchen, and look at upgrades and new features for you guys. 

I'm 99.999% sure some fun API stuff (think: show data and media) I was hesitant to bring over to the front-end due to cost might actually be financially viable and I've got notes from staff and my own notes on changes/maybes and I've actually started puttering with <gestures broadly> the last two days. 

Mobile users will be pleased as the software more mobile friendly. You'll want to create a home screen link to the website on your mobile device and just treat it as an app that way.

No previews yet, just started all this yesterday. Yes, some of you will get an early gander to dogfood this stuff and yell at me and the usual. Dark mode is a native feature, there is a new post editor, and so on, but it's still the same forums you know.

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shapeshifter

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25 minutes ago, AllAstronauts said:

Mobile users will be pleased as the software more mobile friendly. You'll want to create a home screen link to the website on your mobile device and just treat it as an app that way.

I assume/hope this means my ol' Stream link will work for the bookmark to mobile website as well. Or maybe I'm the last living PrimeTimer using a personal Stream link? Stay tuned (again) to see how ol' shapeshifter weathers this storm too. 
If necessary, I'll jump my Stream ship and join the PT cruise ship. 

HelenCrump

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Hi, I saw the login post today and went to see what email was attached to my account.  It is one I never use so I tried to change it.  I never received a validation email at either the old or new email ... checked spam folders, nothing there.  I was effectively locked out so I ended up changing the email to an email address (different domain) that I literally never use.  I sure would like to attach my normal daily email to my account here.  Any help would be appreciated!   I am a longtime user, going back to the TV Without Pity days.  Thanks!

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CM-BlueButterfly

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3 minutes ago, HelenCrump said:

Hi, I saw the login post today and went to see what email was attached to my account.  It is one I never use so I tried to change it.  I never received a validation email at either the old or new email ... checked spam folders, nothing there.  I was effectively locked out so I ended up changing the email to an email address (different domain) that I literally never use.  I sure would like to attach my normal daily email to my account here.  Any help would be appreciated!   I am a longtime user, going back to the TV Without Pity days.  Thanks!

I'll have to pass this one on to @AllAstronauts

CM-BlueButterfly

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6 hours ago, SweePea59 said:

This is a nightmare for me. I have an old password written down, but it has less characters than the amount of asterisks showing as my password here.

I tried to log in to the email I used when I set up my acct here, but since I haven't used it in so long it is no longer useable, since I never used it during some two step verification mandatory set up. So I can't reset my mystery password since I can no longer access that email address.

If I change my email address, so that I can change my mystery password, it says here that I have to re-activate my acct. I can't find the instructions here for re-activating an acct.

I would really prefer not to have to start new here since I've been here since March 2014.

What does re-activating an acct mean? Will my acct and any of my stored info and stats change?

And how do I reactivate my acct, once I change the email and the password?

And can I change the email and the password at the same time? If I change my email and then have to log in again, I won't be able to since I don't know my password. 

I am hesitant to make any of these changes since I may never be able to sign in again, as myself. But apparently that seems to be on the horizon anyway.

I know that in the big scheme of things, nothing really matters, especially logging in here. But it's the little things in life that really get you. The big things, you accept. But the little things that should not be a problem can push you over the edge.

Can you please help me?

I'll PM you. 

 

 

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BAForever

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7 hours ago, SweePea59 said:

This is a nightmare for me. I have an old password written down, but it has less characters than the amount of asterisks showing as my password here.

I tried to log in to the email I used when I set up my acct here, but since I haven't used it in so long it is no longer useable, since I never used it during some two step verification mandatory set up. So I can't reset my mystery password since I can no longer access that email address.

If I change my email address, so that I can change my mystery password, it says here that I have to re-activate my acct. I can't find the instructions here for re-activating an acct.

I would really prefer not to have to start new here since I've been here since March 2014.

What does re-activating an acct mean? Will my acct and any of my stored info and stats change?

And how do I reactivate my acct, once I change the email and the password?

And can I change the email and the password at the same time? If I change my email and then have to log in again, I won't be able to since I don't know my password. 

I am hesitant to make any of these changes since I may never be able to sign in again, as myself. But apparently that seems to be on the horizon anyway.

I know that in the big scheme of things, nothing really matters, especially logging in here. But it's the little things in life that really get you. The big things, you accept. But the little things that should not be a problem can push you over the edge.

Can you please help me?

@SweePea59, I hear you. @CM-BlueButterfly talked me through my log-in problems in 10 minutes. 

I get your concern. I love the funny, smart, insightful people on this site, it's relaxing to read and post here. Our mods are the best,  I'm certain they will help you navigate your concerns. Good Luck

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CM-BlueButterfly

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3 minutes ago, cherryblossom said:

 I checked my email address and it was from 11 years ago when I was still working. When I put in my one and only personal email address that I have had for many years it said that one was taken. Might’ve been a second account that I have forgotten? How do I go about solving this?

From the top of my head, the quickest way would probably be for you to let me know your email address (via PM, I'd be happy to delete the PM afterwards as well) and I do a search for it on the back end. 

I'd then let you know my findings via PM. 

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CM-BlueButterfly

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Just now, DanaK said:

Would it make sense to change our login method now or soon if we think we have things squared away or should we just wait until the switchover (or when it's closer to happening)?

It's been discussed, although, I'd like to give it at least a week, possibly two. 

I'll give you a few days notice if/when we decide to do that. 

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ProudMary

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On 1/4/2025 at 11:45 AM, SweePea59 said:

I have an old password written down, but it has less characters than the amount of asterisks showing as my password here.

I've quoted @SweePea59 here, because I have the same question. I haven't yet signed out of my account here. I did check my e-mail address under Account Settings and although it's a secondary one, it's still an active address. No problem there. I'm a little nervous about the password, though. I'm 98% certain that I know what password I used for the forums, but the number of asterisks showing in my account settings differs from what I recall as my Primetimer password. 

Are the number of asterisks shown in account settings in sync with the actual number of characters in one's password?

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CM-BlueButterfly

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3 minutes ago, ProudMary said:

I've quoted @SweePea59 here, because I have the same question. I haven't yet signed out of my account here. I did check my e-mail address under Account Settings and although it's a secondary one, it's still an active address. No problem there. I'm a little nervous about the password, though. I'm 98% certain that I know what password I used for the forums, but the number of asterisks showing in my account settings differs from what I recall as my Primetimer password. 

Are the number of asterisks shown in account settings in sync with the actual number of characters in one's password?

It doesn't appear to be. It seems to always show up as 8. 

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DanaK

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As it turns out, I couldn’t find the login info for this site where I keep my login info for various websites. I didn’t remember my password either but fortunately my browser remembered it. So I was able to change my password without any hiccup. Looking at my account details and logging out and in again showed I was already using my email address to log in. So I guess I’m all set at this point

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paulvdb

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If you're not sure if you remembered your password correctly you could always open an incognito window for your browser and try to log in. Or try to log in using a different browser than you normally use (if you have more than one browser installed). Or try to log in on a different device than the one you normally use. That way you will know for sure if you remembered your password correctly without having to log out and potentially not being able to log in again.

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CM-BlueButterfly

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Another alternative for anyone who thinks they remember their password but isn't sure would be to try and change the password in Account Settings. You're asked to type in your current password. If it's the wrong one, the site will let you know that it's the wrong password and you won't be able to change it. 

@Jynnan tonnix If you have no idea whatsoever, I'll PM you. 

 

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GHScorpiosRule

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Well darn! I know the email associated-as I get notifications whenever I have PM, but the password is “saved” and hidden when I log on-something I had to do when clearing the history and cache during the last wonkiness.

I’ll try logging out and saying I forgot my password and hopefully I can reset it and will note it down for when the log-in change goes into effect.

SoMuchTV

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Just now, CM-BlueButterfly said:

Any administrator and moderator can see posts that are awaiting approval. I'm going to be a bit presumptive and say that I think with regards to AllAstronauts, it's that they're simply respectful to me, as the community manager, and, therefore, read and reply but don't approve. 

Okay thanks I think that answers my question. As far as I can tell @AllAstronauts is in a tech position but I wasn’t clear on whether they had mod or admin privileges. So it’s fair to assume they’ve seen my post when they comment, even if my post isn’t visible to the general public. Thanks. 

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