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S10.E04: Sew Not Invited

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kristen111

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Don’t get me wrong.  I love dogs, I have had many dogs, but this show with all the dogs every minute is too much.  Every scene has dogs in it.  Too much.  That Birthday Party was ridiculous.  Giving to the ASPCA would have been so much better.  Rant over, lol.  I’m very sad for Madison’s husband.  Hoping he will be o.k.

1 minute ago, kristen111 said:

Don’t get me wrong.  I love dogs, I have had many dogs, but this show with all the dogs every minute is too much.  Every scene has dogs in it.  Too much.  That Birthday Party was ridiculous.  Giving to the ASPCA would have been so much better.  Rant over, lol.  I’m very sad for Madison’s husband.  Hoping he will be o.k.  Whitney is boring.  Miss Patricia can forget about grandchildren.

 

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dancingdreamer

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Shep and Austin keep  putting  Craig down. Here's an idea, visit him, he'd  probably  bbq and he has a pool. I love being at home in the summer. Why do Shep and Austin  still need a bar.? They need to grow up, because  putting  Craig down non-stop,  pisses me off.

I feel so sorry for Madison, she's  very worried  about her husband,  I would be as well. 

Keep coming  up with ideas Craig, so what if you're the next 'Arthur Stewart! '

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JenE4

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Didn’t this season start with Craig and Austen saying they’re BFFs and do everything together and it was Shep whom they hadn’t spoken to in several months? Now suddenly Austen and Shep claim to be BFFs who are always socializing and it’s Craig who has been MIA? And they’re attacking him for not showing up to a party…that he wasn’t invited to? Okayyyy. I mean, I guess they need to create some conflict for storylines. But having a grown-ass man decide he’s outgrown drinking in bars but would love to Make It Nice (TM Dorinda) and host you in his home whenever you’d like isn’t the big gotcha moment Shep and Austen seem to think it is. I mean Craig is still doing his part to make a TV show by making up stuff about JT. At least the “he called Miss Pat a bitch” rumor is more interesting than “he pretends to be Martha Stewart.”

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aghst

aghst

So Salley is a surgeon making big money.  Why would she make time to do this show?   They had a cameraman in her bedroom to film her waking up at 4:30 AM?

It could have been a remote camera but the way it zoomed in on her phone when the alarm went off, it looked like someone manually operating a camera in pitch black darkness and trying to locate the light source.  They probably came and set up earlier, with her pretending to sleep just to film her waking up.

Then again, Patricia is talking about giving Whitney her $15 million home and enough money to pay for the very costly upkeep.  So why are either of them doing the show?  Not for money obviously but if not money, what does doing the show get them?  I guess Whitney hoped to become a mogul and make his own money to show his worth if the show became some smash hit.

Craig trying to consult Paige on how to set up the FROG room.  She has absolutely no interest  in that room nor Craig's hobbies like "crafting" with his quilting and so on.

But they're trying to keep up the charade.

Austen questions whether Craig is doing what he wants or what she wants, which is to put off marriage for 3-4 years more.  I forget, are they suppose to be engaged?

Craig takes it upon himself to freeze his sperm.   This idea sounds like something from the producers, so they can have a fake scene of Paige rolling her eyes and Craig and the sperm bank.

Actually, isn't it egg which have more of a shelf life?  If they were serious about having children, it should be her going to freeze her eggs, though she may be  several years younger than Craig.

Of course the elephant in the room is that this was a fake relationship for the purpose of promoting both of their reality TV careers.  Instead of debating whether Craig is really getting what he wants or just going along with whatever Paige wanted, the cast should be questioning why they have to resort to these fake pairings.  But then that would just raise questions about some other cast members.

Brett looks pretty healthy for a guy with serious health concerns.  Presumably haven't had to go through things like chemo, which would exact a heavy toll.

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kristen111

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15 hours ago, Thumper said:

Shep is so jealous of Craig, and always seems to put him down.  Craig has opportunities now and is taking advantage of them.  Not everyone gets trust fund money, or whatever  is supporting Shep.

There are plenty of people who have lots of money but still work.  Shep is lazy.  I have no respect for him.  Yes, he’s jealous of Craig who made something of himself.  I admire him.   This show has gotten very boring to me.  Too much of the guy with the canes (his name flew out of my head) and Austin who has no storyline who thinks he’s Gods gift.  Guess they couldn’t get the old gang back.

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aghst

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31 minutes ago, Starlight925 said:

Salley isn't a surgeon.

She's a rep for the company that makes the robotic device, so she goes into surgery while the actual surgeon uses her product.  No shade, as it's a very robust career; in fact, she's quite possibly the most successful person on this franchise, ever.

Thanks for clarifying.  They left it kind of ambiguous.

I think Thomas was more successful though.  Maybe his family name helped launch his real estate development or got some projects approved.

But they seem to be multi-million projects.

Patricia probably has tens of millions but she didn't make the money directly, she inherited from her ex-husbands.

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Starlight925

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Salley worked hard to get where she is.  College + climbed the ladder + became an expert in a highly competitive field, and puts in the hours.  She's been with arguably the most competitive company in the medical industry for many years, where most people burn out and quit.

Thomas snorted his daddy's fortune.

Shep receives checks in between day drinking.

Patricia married well.  Again, and again.

Craig is technically successful, but he wouldn't have sold pillow One without his presence on this show.

I  was all prepared to dislike Salley, until I looked her up.  I'm in a similar career, and she puts me to shame.

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Vivigirl10

Vivigirl10

I actually really liked that they focused on Salley's career.  Good for her!  So she's not a doctor but is she an RN?  It would seem there would have to be some clinical base there.

I think it's exciting (and surprising!) to see a successful, educated woman on this stupid show.  Leva is a hustler too, I know, but it doesn't quite feel the same.  We've had two hairstylists (Madison, Chelsea), a sugar baby (Jenna/season 1), unemployed drifter (Landon), family money (Naomi), married well (Cameron - never really bought that the real estate career was true), dental hygienist/now unemployed? (Taylor), family money (Olivia), unemployed grifter (Kathryn), artist (Danni), influencer (Venita), unemployed model (Molly).  Who am I missing? So mainly a pretty unimpressive bunch.

Shep infuriates me.  Lecturing about being "successful" but also enjoying the fruits of your labor.  The man knows nothing about working hard and is a lazy loser.

Same with the waste of space known as Austen.  Glad you're tall bro.

It's like the alcoholics are trying to do an intervention on a sober person.  Craig has it together but they need to show him the error of his ways?

Would they treat him differently if he had gotten married and had children and that was what was now taking up his time and focus?  Because it's pretty much the same and that is just a very normal part of life and growing up.

 

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ZettaK

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Shep and Austen are jealous of Craig who is focused, realizes that his popularity as a reality star is going to be ephemeral, and tries to take advantage of opportunities. He is more likeable than them, and more proactive (they are kind of lazy because their families are more well-off), so he receives more business offers. They don't like his relationship to Paige who was overall a positive influence (about taking business opportunities like she dies, and drinking less).

5 hours ago, Vivigirl10 said:

Would they treat him differently if he had gotten married and had children and that was what was now taking up his time and focus?  Because it's pretty much the same and that is just a very normal part of life and growing up.

They would be annoyed he didn't have time to party with them.

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hottesthw

hottesthw

On 1/2/2025 at 10:20 PM, SHERMDOG said:

Shep and Austin are just shitheads!

Ugh

Totally ageee. And I’d never want to give them credit for anything because they’re both lazy asses, but I kind of see their frustration in Craig. Craig walks around now high and mighty crowing about how much he’s changed. And he has, and good for him. But watching seasons not all that long ago, Craig is an asshole. He speak horribly to the women in his life. The last season his ex was on he was awful. And it probably came from the fact they hooked up in Vegas while he was with Paige, so he then had to go overboard to show he didn’t care about her. So instead he berated her every chance he got. All while his 2 friends stood by and watched. Now he is with a woman who wants none of the same things he does (that his friends have listened to for years) and Craig now is all “ehhh whatever, I’ll freeze my sperm”. S & A know it’s bullshit and call him on it ( probably at the behest of production).  Craig also likes to talk about his “businesses”. Again, S & A know it’s all bullshit. Craig’s business partners run his businesses. He’s the face for them. Which is fine. But Craig strutting around like he’s Trump Jr is laughable. 
 

And then it is just possible like Austen said they miss his friendship. You’ll notice now the only time Craig hangs out is at HIS house. He invites them to his pool, come to his parties. Why can’t he go out to a bar and hang without drinking. But it seems like now Craig is all about seeing his friends on HIS terms only. Probably being controlled by Paige behind the scenes because as he proved in Vegas, he can’t be trusted. But as his friends, I could see where that would get annoying. 
 

When Paige eventually dumps him it’s going to be S & A that are there to pick up the pieces again. Craig should keep that in the back of his mind. Those two seem way more interested in spending time with Craig than his current girlfriend does. 

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aghst

Craig separating himself from Shep and Austin and the rest of the group is another fake plot.

First of all these people are not socializing all the time when they're not shooting the show.

They may have common business interests like the podcast and the tour and whatever they can grift off their 15 minutes of fame like the dumb pillows.

Are we suppose to believe that Craig won't go drinking with them on the show because he just wants to hang in his backyard skimming his pool or set up his crafting corner in his man cave?

They are straining to come up with things to film.

We know eventually they will all gather together for fake events, trips, etc.

Otherwise there would be no reason for them to be on the show.  It's suppose to be this social circle of the the genteel South for the rest of the nation to look at.  But basically it's like any other reality show, scripted and contrived to get these cast members together to shoot them, to maximize opportunities for the infamous Bravo shout-down confrontations.

 

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Starlight925

Starlight925

I'm 99% sure that Salley isn't an RN.  She has a Bachelor of Science degree plus a degree from a Medical college with a specialty in spine.  She's a representative for the Robotics company, and is very highly trained in its use, where she scrubs in for surgery and is present while the surgeon performs the surgery using her robotics device.

Similar to how, if you ever have a hip or knee replacement, the rep has likely scrubbed in and is present during the surgery if the surgeon has any questions.

Taylor was not a dental hygienist, but rather an orthodontics assistant.  A hygienist has much more training plus a degree, whereas an assistant does not need a degree.

I believe Salley's claim about her income.  Taylor would make literally about 80-90% less than what Salley makes.  No shame, just a fact.

So what I don't understand is, why is Salley here on this show?  Her company doesn't mind?  The surgeons, the hospital, the patients....it's all cool?  I believe she has romantic pasts with both Shep & Gaston, so is that it....just to shake up Taylor?

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aghst

aghst

I respect Salley for building up a career but one of the drivers for out out of control health care costs is medical devices.  So for her company to sell those devices they have reps working closely with surgeons.

The patients ultimately pay for these devices, including the support costs, which pay Salley’s compensation.

if there are studies showing that these devices significantly improve outcomes and that they are better utilized, have more successful outcomes because company reps are in the OR, that would be great.

But it does illustrate why US health care is so expensive.  What are the surgeons, anesthesiologists and nurses in that OR making in addition to Salley?

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1011101010001

1011101010001

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19 hours ago, hottesthw said:

When Paige eventually dumps him

Lol

I think Naomi’s cheater fiancé was probably more successful than Salley.  She seems to be fame hungry —  The Bachelor, Bachelor in Paradise, Southern Hospitality and Southern Charm.  Also why did yoga and a “quick shower” take from 4:30 to 6:45?

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RedInk

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This season is super disconnected with none of the new cast in the mix. Sally getting ready for work, Molly pops in for less than a minute, Taylor flitting around with no story to tell, and Venita sweeping and talking to her dog. Patricia is getting the bulk of the screen time and she’s not even technically a cast member. Are we done here?

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JenE4

JenE4

11 minutes ago, ZettaK said:

Salley said in interviews that she operates the robot in spine surgeries. 

But her judgement is not necessarily great if she dated Gaston, and she had sex with Shep....She was also on multiple reality shows.

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I feel like “representative” and “operator” are not synonymous. I’m pretty sure when she was on The Bachelor, she was billed as in medical sales. I tend to think maybe she’s like a sales engineer type of job in which she’s there in case of emergency if something goes wrong with the device, but I really can’t imagine she’s allowed to actually perform surgery on people without a medical license. I’m guessing she supports the equipment but does not actually use it on patients—more of an equipment technician. If she is sort of on the sales end and is there on site until the doctors feel comfortable using the equipment or even as a fail safe for liability on behalf of the hospital in order to invest in the equipment because she can step in to troubleshoot if something goes wrong with the tool, then she might be getting commission on the equipment sales and could presumably be making a lot of money, as I’m sure it’s extremely pricey. 

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Dirtybubble

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That entire birthday dinner just pissed me off!  Why were those tables setup like that?  Why does Madison feel the need to kiss Patricia's ass ever chance she gets?  Her spot on the show is secure.  Why are they trying to make those 2 gay guys a thing?  We barely hear them speak 5 words.  Where's the rest of the cast?  Why is it only shep, Austen and some randos?  And why do I feel the need to punch whitney in the throat ever time he speaks?   Got in trouble in boarding school,  beeesh please.

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JenE4

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11 hours ago, Jst2Wld said:

What? I thought she said she was a model with a thyroid problem? Do I have her confused with another SC actor? 

Yes, that’s Molly. They’re two new castmates who are supposedly friends, both blonde. Molly has been more prominently featured, such as attending Patricia’s Easter party. Salley seems to be a “friend of” who attended the Doggy Parton party with Molly, seemingly horning her way on this show by bragging about sleeping with both Shep and Gaston, Taylor’s boyfriend.

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ZettaK

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On 1/4/2025 at 6:16 PM, RedInk said:


This season is super disconnected with none of the new cast in the mix. Sally getting ready for work, Molly pops in for less than a minute, Taylor flitting around with no story to tell, and Venita sweeping and talking to her dog. Patricia is getting the bulk of the screen time and she’s not even technically a cast member. Are we done here?

Molly was absent (she was shown for literally two seconds making her bed). Patricia (or Whitney) didn't invite her to her birthday dinner. The new women don't have a real connection with the OGs (except for having sex with a couple of the guys in the past although they don't really like them now). I have no idea why Taylor is still a cast member. Well, I do after all. Shep has a new girlfriend, and Bravo, as always wanted to create drama. Her new boyfriend was on Southern Hospitality- what a strategic move to generate interest and remain on the show.

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hottesthw

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15 hours ago, ZettaK said:

Salley said in interviews that she operates the robot in spine surgeries. 

But her judgement is not necessarily great if she dated Gaston, and she had sex with Shep....She was also on multiple reality shows

She also held a job as VIP whatever on Southern Hospitality while getting into a love triangle over there too. She likes a camera apparently. 

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Back Atcha

Back Atcha

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23 hours ago, Dirtybubble said:

Why does Madison feel the need to kiss Patricia's ass ever chance she gets?  Her spot on the show is secure.

Her spot on the show probably doesn't matter.  Patricia is the main source of Madison's hairdresser income. Doesn't she DO Patricia's hair almost every day ... and depend on Patricia's referrals (and therefore fans of the show)?    Also, it seems like there are serious medical concerns with Madison's husband.  Maybe she should take a break.

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Back Atcha

Back Atcha

On 1/4/2025 at 2:51 PM, Starlight925 said:

So what I don't understand is, why is Salley here on this show?

I think the answer lies in posts that follow this one; it lists her appearances on various reality shows (not all BRAVO).  I don't watch most of them, so... because I don't know the order of "prestige," I may be wrong in assuming she's drifting downward on the reality show totem pole.

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