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I think I read Redmond isn’t 100% sure this is correct, and he was going to release his own list (he was holding off because the cast hadn’t flown out yet, and I guess he was worried it might hurt their chances if they got revealed before that).  For the most part, I can believe most of these names though did Jeff really love S48 that much that it warrants bringing 3 people back?  I’m happy for Kamilla, if true, and hope she can actually play a game with people who want to make moves.  Based on his edit Joe is inevitable.  I’m not mad at it.  Kyle is more surprising.  I also don’t know if I’d rule out someone from S49.  Because it would be a spoiler if they announced in advance someone from that season being cast, they could always hold off on revealing that person until the season airs.  

So per Redmond, he's confident on these folks being on:

https://www.reddit.com/r/SpoiledSurvivor/comments/1kul2tw/50cast_redmond_on_su_list/

1.    ⁠Q Burdette (46)
2.    ⁠Charlie Davis (46)
3.    ⁠Colby Donaldson (Australian Outback)
4.    ⁠Cirie Fields (Panama)
5.    ⁠Emily Flippen (45)
6.    ⁠Chrissy Hofbeck (HvHvH)
7.    ⁠Joe Hunter (48)
8.    ⁠Angelina Keeley (DvG)
9.    ⁠Stephenie LaGrossa (Palau/Guatemala)
10.    ⁠Ozzy Lusth (Cook Islands)
11.    ⁠Genevieve Mushaluk (47)
12.    ⁠Jonathan Young (42)
13.    ⁠Jenna Lewis (Borneo)
14.    ⁠Christian Hubicki (DvG)
15.    ⁠"Coach" Wade (Tocantins)
16.    ⁠Aubry (Koah Rong)
17.    ⁠Rick Devens (Edge of Extinction)
18.    ⁠Mike White (DvG)
19.    ⁠Kamilla Karthigesu (48)
20.    ⁠Tiffany Ervin (46)
21.    ⁠Kyle Fraser (48)
22.    ⁠Dee Valladares (45)

He also thinks there will be 2 players from 49 on.  The 48 female he heard in the mix was Sai, not Kamilla.  Also said that Shan, Naseer, Mary Anne, and DeShawn were cut late in casting.  Jerri and Sean Rector were also cut.  Doesn't think that Elisabeth or Amanda made it as far in casting as people thought.  I think it was the "Drop Your Buffs" podcast that said someone on 50 was going to be seismic.  

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Well one thing is for sure, Angelina sure isn't going to have to ask anyone for their jacket, because she is never going to be cold.  She will be thrilled to learn that each contestant now has access

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Jeff thinks he’s made everything equitable by tacking on a puzzle to the end of every challenge.  I expect the glut of players from recent seasons was a mandate to ensure casual/ new viewers woul

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It makes it even more depressing hearing the players who were cut.  Rob C said he was cut.  Abi-Maria and Jerri said they were cut.  Sean Rector was cut, and I believe Neleh and Greg Buis also were. 

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The spoiled cast list doesn't really excite me that much.  It will be nice to see some of the OG Survivors, but I don't anticipate them really being successful in the long run.  Of course, I don't really know who I would rather see on the show.  Maybe it's overall fatigue that started for me with season 48.  I do like that the OG Survivors are identified by the names of the seasons rather than just a number.  Those were the days.  Sigh.

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I’m still waiting to see if this is accurate.  I have a feeling at least a few names are wrong.  Also, I’m guessing the diversity mandate isn’t in place anymore if it is accurate.  What I hate about so many new era players is they have probably pre-gamed like there’s no tomorrow.  And yes, I get pre-gaming always happens for all-stars season, but I think for a milestone like 50 the new era folks want to prove something, since a lot of old school contestants mock their experience on Survivor (though after the past couple of seasons, any mocking is warranted).  I’m also disappointed about Q because the guy was about to quit simply because he wasn’t getting his own way.  He’s one that I definitely didn’t want to see again.
 

Some people think we ended up with more new era and winners because some of the old schoolers CBS wanted declined.  I heard casting was a bit of a mess, with people being in limbo for months only to get cut (and then potentially asked again only to be re-cut), some people were pretty much locked in and then cut, and some people backed out.  I’d love for Redmond or another credible source to do a break down on all of that because I’m curious if it was that messy. 
 

Another theory I saw is that Aubry and Coach only got cast because they were heavily rumored to be on the next Traitors season (which films in June) and Probst has been a little bit territorial of other shows “stealing” Survivor contestants.  Though both of them being cast actually makes sense to me.  
 

 

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31 minutes ago, TVFan1 said:

What time is the list reveal in the morning on Wednesday?

8:30.  
 

The newest reel on the Survivor IG page has a little promo for the new season by showing opening intros of Jeff from seasons past (those used to be so epic).  Anyway, it says “26 days, ## people, One Survivor”.  There’s a rumor there could be 24 people in the cast, which holy number of double eliminations or overcrowded finale.  
 

 

1 hour ago, KeithJ said:

Sai?  Really? She didn't even make the jury. Coach has also said numerous times he's not coming back for 50. Could be misdirection sure, but I guess we'll find out on Wednesday.

I’d much rather Kamilla than chaos Sai, though I’d be curious how Sai would play again because I do think she had regrets.  But Mary claims she made it miserable for her too and I hate that.  


Kamilla however deserves a season where hopefully people actually want to play and make big moves.  I am hoping the rumor of her being on is true.  She’s one person from 48 I’d love to see again.

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Warning: this include Survivor 49 contestants shown on the photo

Those 24 candidates that only 18 of them will be chosen to the official Survivor 50 cast just like Cambodia a decade ago. The goal is intending to return to a 39-day game format that was used to prior to the pandemic.

I think the tribe names will be named after famous explorers:

  • Columbus (named after Christopher Columbus), in turn he was the first Westerner to explore the Americas
  • Magellan (named after Ferdinand Magellan), in turn he was the first European to partially circumnavigate the globe until he was killed in a battle
  • Tasman (named after Abel Tasman), in turn he was the first European to discover Fiji
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21 hours ago, ApprenticeFan said:

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Warning: this include Survivor 49 contestants shown on the photo

Those 24 candidates that only 18 of them will be chosen to the official Survivor 50 cast just like Cambodia a decade ago. The goal is intending to return to a 39-day game format that was used to prior to the pandemic.

I think the tribe names will be named after famous explorers:

  • Columbus (named after Christopher Columbus), in turn he was the first Westerner to explore the Americas
  • Magellan (named after Ferdinand Magellan), in turn he was the first European to partially circumnavigate the globe until he was killed in a battle
  • Tasman (named after Abel Tasman), in turn he was the first European to discover Fiji

Where did you hear all that?  
 

I also in no way see them naming a tribe after Columbus.
 

I’m also hoping at least one of those 49 picks is wrong or my mind is changed when the season airs.  It’s really a bummer that so many old schoolers wanted to play and Jeff/CBS ended up going heavy on the era after all. 
 

ETA: here’s an update from Redmond/Reddit 

https://www.reddit.com/r/SpoiledSurvivor/s/lD6SPum369

-Jerri confirmed on IG she was cut (I have a feeling there’s going to be a lot of bitterness for how casting was handled)

-Abi really wanted to be on

-Coach is believed to have replaced Penner who dropped out

-No 39 players were ever in contention (S39 might be to Survivor what Big Brother 15 is to that franchise).

-the cast isn’t representative of the series as a whole (I blame Probst and his pride/ego for this).

-he’s still unsure on Kyle, Kamilla and Tiffany (said Rick is 100% on)

 

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CBS is releasing teasers their IG page.  It looks like they are doing one an hour so far, which might line up with 24 names.  The teasers simply say “A player has been selected.  Find out who return from (season)” and that seasons logo in the background.  So far they’ve done one for 38, Cook Islands, and DvsG.  For all the hype they are doing for this season, not sure this cast is worth it.  I really don’t know what happened to Probst lol Other than he’s always had an ego about him and the show that got worse when he basically took everything over.

ETA: Redmond released his list and it’s the exact same as the one we have (he still thinks some people are alternates but isn’t sure who I guess).  Was really hoping for some surprises.  I can’t believe we’re getting Kyle, Kamilla and Joe back after the season just ended (I could do without Kyle, I am happy for Kamilla and hope she can play the game she wants.  I’m okay with Joe).  But Q over Sean Rector or Greg Buis, getting Aubrey for a 4th time when I much rather would have seen Jerri for a 4th time…I had hoped maybe S50 would be another new era for the show but now I’m convinced new era Camp Snoopy is here to stay. 

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That cast list is dreadful, and not just because of some of the names-- Greg Buis! Sean Rector! Natalie Bolton!!!-- who had been floating around until very late in the pre-game who are now out in favor of entirely too many new-era players and returnees I genuinely never wanted to see again.

I wasn't thrilled about the Elisabeth "immunity headdress" Hasselback rumors, but at least she would've made for an interesting and novel addition, as opposed to seeing a fourth iteration of Aubry Bracco trying to leverage her one and only skill of Centering Herself In Literally Every Narrative. Or Ben Wade and his entire exhausting world of complete and utter nonsense.

Assuming that cast list holds, this quickly went from being exciting for this "season one, episode one" fan to being something that I'm scarcely interested in watching at all.

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I had a lot of hope when Redmond claimed CBS intervened and was axing the new era majority in favor of old schoolers.  I really don’t get the idea that new era Survivors are owed this experience because they haven’t had a chance to play again.  Some people seem to be missing the point that this isn’t just a typical all star season.  It’s a legacy season of 50 seasons and 25 years of a show that many didn’t think would make it 5 seasons.  And I feel like new era will be insufferable because they are not playing the same game by a large margin compared to the pre-41 crowd (I remember on Game Changers and WAW some of the more recent players even made that assumption that old schools couldn’t keep up with the game anymore and that wasn’t their problem).  I’m worried this will be a WAW situation where we see a lot of the pre-20 (what few we have of them) axed right away and the new era people gloat about it.  Probst really needs someone to be there to check him.  But I know new era players get defensive online and have had spats with old era players for how their experiences differ.  And I’m not saying it’s new era’s fault this is the Survivor experience they are given.  But old era also has a point.  
 

On Jerri’s IG post she got a lot of positive comments from former players, and Shane basically said Probst can’t let things go and if he wants to ruin the show then let him.  

I also don’t get why we had to have Stephenie back.

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This list is seriously disappointing.  I thought Survivor 50 was supposed to be a "celebration of Survivor".  Where are all the great players from throughout the show's history?  Ten players out of 22 (or 12 out of 24 if there are two players from 49) from the so-called "New Era" 40s.  If we count from Heroes vs. Healers vs. Hustlers (35), it's 15 players.

I would have preferred to have seen more players from Season 34 and before.  What exactly was so great about Angelina Keeley?  Apart from her delusions in thinking she was a great player, asking someone for their jacket, and thinking that "I gave up rice" was a game-winning strategic move?

At this point, I would be happy if they do a Boston Rob and just hand the money to Cirie.

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It makes it even more depressing hearing the players who were cut.  Rob C said he was cut.  Abi-Maria and Jerri said they were cut.  Sean Rector was cut, and I believe Neleh and Greg Buis also were.  But yes, let's get Kyle, Joe, Genevieve, Tiffany, and some people from 49 in their place.  I think Probst was so locked in with a new era all-stars and thinking they best represented the Survivor experience he now wants and CBS eventually compromised with the number of new era folks.  I think they should have made S48 a regular all-star season for the new era people instead, and then did an actual legacy season for 50.     

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10 minutes left for big reveal.

ETA: the cast has been officially revealed

Credit from Redmond/X (formerly Twitter)

Survivor 50 cast

  1. Jenna (Borneo)
  2. Colby (Australia)
  3. Stephenie (Palau)
  4. Cirie (Panama)
  5. Ozzy (Cook Islands)
  6. Coach (Tocantins)
  7. Aubry (Kaoh Rong)
  8. Chrissy (HHH)
  9. Christian (DvG)
  10. Angelina (DvG)
  11. Mike (DvG)
  12. Rick (EoE)
  13. Jonathan (S42)
  14. Dee (S45)
  15. Emily (S45)
  16. Q (S46)
  17. Tiffany (S46)
  18. Charlie (S46)
  19. Genevieve (S47)
  20. Kamilla (S48)
  21. Kyle (S48)
  22. Joe (S48)
  23. Contestant from S49
  24. Contestant from S49

Only 22 of 24 contestants have revealed plus two contestants from the yet upcoming 49th season. First time in the US version to have more than 20 contestants with three tribes of eight players. There will be no cuts prior to filming.

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29 minutes ago, ApprenticeFan said:

Survivor 50 cast

  1. Jenna (Borneo)
  2. Colby (Australia)
  3. Stephenie (Palau)
  4. Cirie (Panama)
  5. Ozzy (Cook Islands)
  6. Coach (Tocantins)
  7. Aubry (Kaoh Rong)
  8. Chrissy (HHH)
  9. Christian (DvG)
  10. Angelina (DvG)
  11. Mike (DvG)
  12. Rick (EoE)
  13. Jonathan (S42)
  14. Dee (S45)
  15. Emily (S45)
  16. Q (S46)
  17. Tiffany (S46)
  18. Charlie (S46)
  19. Genevieve (S47)
  20. Kamilla (S48)
  21. Kyle (S48)
  22. Joe (S48)
  23. Contestant from S49
  24. Contestant from S49

So disappointing. Way too many people from S40+. I guess I'll be rooting for Jenna, Colby, Stephanie, Ozzy, or Coach.

I just don't see how they can call it "In the Hands of the Fans" but yet the fans had zero input on the cast.

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18 hours ago, blackwing said:

What exactly was so great about Angelina Keeley?  Apart from her delusions in thinking she was a great player, asking someone for their jacket, and thinking that "I gave up rice" was a game-winning strategic move?

She annoyed me in the beginning, but shortly before Natalie left--she whose jacket Angelina wanted, things changed and I was gung-ho for her. I have rarely ever been so entertained by a player before or since. Every season with returning players, I have hoped for Angelina. She is supreme! I love her!! She is one of the 5 players on this list I am so excited about, #2 actually for me.

She just conveys a vulnerable, delusional, awesome hilarity.

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I love how Jeff said it’s all eras, and yet doesn’t proceed to cast anyone from the 20’s.

I’m not upset about Kamilla being there but still can’t believe 5 of the new era folks are from 48 and 49.  

A lot of people think everyone will be sucking up to Mike White so they can get a cameo on The White Lotus like some of his fellow S37 cast members have.

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Apart from Kamilla, I guess there's no room for any Asians in this cast?  And in particular, no people of East Asian heritage?  Would have liked to have seen the Shii Devil again.  Or what about Yul Kwon, Peih Gee, even Woo?  What about giving Kellee Kim another chance after what she endured with Dan?  What about Austin C00n instead of Dee?

I guess Dee is needed because she checks the Hispanic box?  There are other Hispanic Survivor alumni besides Ozzy and Dee.  Notably, Abi-Maria.  We didn't need Dee again.

I think Joe S48 was a given, but why are we seeing Kyle again?  Why not James Clement, Tasha Fox, Star, Michaela Bradshaw?  I would have given Francesca a chance to avoid being first voted out, instead of Kyle.

3 minutes ago, driver18 said:

She annoyed me in the beginning, but shortly before Natalie left--she whose jacket Angelina wanted, things changed and I was gung-ho for her. I have rarely ever been so entertained by a player before or since. Every season with returning players, I have hoped for Angelina. She is supreme! I love her!! She is one of the 5 players on this list I am so excited about, #2 actually for me.

She just conveys a vulnerable, delusional, awesome hilarity.

But she is a BAD player.  At FTC she was asked a question and she again started in with "I gave up rice".  I think whoever was asking the question cut her off and said "I don't want to hear about the rice again".

Sure, she is entertaining because she is so delusionally stupid, but when there are such a limited number of slots, why can't slots be given to people who are actually good players or actually did stuff in the game?

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I couldn’t stand Angelina initially but I get why she was included (and frankly would rather have her than some of these other picks).  She was honestly so bad she was hilarious.  I still remember her determined to get the idol on her own but needing Nick and Mike’s help, and Mike was walking around with a glass of wine in one hand from a reward and got it no problem.

I don’t see why we needed Jonathan.  Stephenie I’ve never gotten the hype with as I don’t think she’s that great of a player and seems most memorable for being on a season that had a tribe decimate itself for the first time in history.  Q had to be talked off a ledge to not quit just because he wasn’t getting his own way.  Genevieve couldn’t seem to take the pressure in voting off Kishan and then voted off Sol to avenge Rome of all people.  I don’t know if I’d consider bringing her back or why she’s considered a legend, outside of being part of Operation Italy.  

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I maintain that this cast is just a disaster, especially if the intent of the season is to celebrate the series in its entirety. It's just basic math that not every season could've been represented, but for just 16 out of 44 possible seasons (counting only those with new castaways) to show up in an expanded cast of 24? Come on.

Probst would've been better off pushing for some kind of a New Era All-Stars, Fans v Favorites, or Blood v Water type season if he was so hellbent on bringing back so many of these players so soon. The first all-stars was the show's eighth season, and the first FvF was its sixteenth. The New Era could have been slated for a big returning-player season already.

But Probst gonna Probst.

Angelina wouldn't have been near the top of my own list of folks to bring back, but she's one of the more intriguing players here since we don't really know how she might play differently this time. Whereas there's no reason to expect any seismic shifts in gameplay out of Ben, Aubry, Cirie, Ozzy, or Colby... They're all well-known and tired commodities.

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I'm going to disagree about Dee vs Abi-Maria, but to an extent.  The latter would've been much more entertaining, and if they had gone that route, that would have been awesome.  However, seeing Dee again is fair enough as she's only played the game once, and won the game.  Unlike really the entire New Era, it pretty much felt like she was the one to beat from the get-go.

While it's split, there are still old school players so we'll see how she can manage against the rest of the field

blackwing

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40 minutes ago, omophagia said:

Angelina wouldn't have been near the top of my own list of folks to bring back, but she's one of the more intriguing players here since we don't really know how she might play differently this time. Whereas there's no reason to expect any seismic shifts in gameplay out of Ben, Aubry, Cirie, Ozzy, or Colby... They're all well-known and tired commodities.

Well one thing is for sure, Angelina sure isn't going to have to ask anyone for their jacket, because she is never going to be cold.  She will be thrilled to learn that each contestant now has access to an entire bonanza of clothing, suitable for every possible weather condition!

She's also not going to have to give up rice because nowadays, nobody starves.  They don't even need rice anymore because production stashes a supply of harvested coconuts off-camera.  Nobody fishes because why fish when there is a food reward every other day and people feel sorry for the ones who haven't eaten and pick them (unless your name is Mary Zheng).

Without the jacket and without the rice, she is a complete zero.

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A lot of people think everyone will be sucking up to Mike White so they can get a cameo on The White Lotus like some of his fellow S37 cast members have.

Ugh, sorry, not happy to see Mike White here.  

I was really hopeful for one player from more of the Old School seasons, someone who has only played once but made an impression.  But I guess bringing back someone like Sean Rector, or T-Bird, or Earl, wasn't "flashy" enough for the New School fans?  So most OS players are repeat players.  Ozzy, Cirie, Colby, Coach - they're memorable for sure, but OG fans have seen them twice or more on the show.

Plus spreading out the players and not choosing more than one player from one season might have made alliances a lot more interesting.  Oh well - I will watch, but I should have known from the beginning that the cast list was going to be underwhelming for those of us who would prefer Buis over Coach, or Earl over Ozzy, etc.

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Feels to me like casting was a mess of conflicting interests and poor planning. Producers not pitching a concrete casting twist to begin with opens up all sorts of avenues for CBS to meddle. Not even having a concrete premise for the season makes it even worse. They were well into casting before any of the votes happened so you couldn’t even pitch “X person went home to firemaking, but now it’s gone so they’re a lock for redemption slot” for example. Really nothing even remotely good was on the table for marketing and Survivor has lost nearly half its viewership since 2017.
 

So you have CBS trying desperately to draw in previous viewers and Probst & Co fighting for their faves while also fighting for their New Era. Seems like they had to compromise and picked their New Era over their older production faves. It also feels like Probst & Co couldnt even decide what they wanted—Carolyn supposedly being told she was on then cut for example—perhaps initially favoring old school faves (Sean, Penner, Jerri making it late) but then realizing they wouldn’t get to have New Era faves like Dee, Kamilla, 49 reps, Q/Tiffany if they went that route. Thus the late cuts. 
 

i’m sure Probst & Co also have their friends amongst alums who they would lead to assume they’re getting on even though that was out of their hands. Hence the messy public stuff we’re seeing.

 

just theories from me!

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2 hours ago, laurakaye said:

Ugh, sorry, not happy to see Mike White here.  

I was really hopeful for one player from more of the Old School seasons, someone who has only played once but made an impression.  But I guess bringing back someone like Sean Rector, or T-Bird, or Earl, wasn't "flashy" enough for the New School fans?  So most OS players are repeat players.  Ozzy, Cirie, Colby, Coach - they're memorable for sure, but OG fans have seen them twice or more on the show.

Plus spreading out the players and not choosing more than one player from one season might have made alliances a lot more interesting.  Oh well - I will watch, but I should have known from the beginning that the cast list was going to be underwhelming for those of us who would prefer Buis over Coach, or Earl over Ozzy, etc.

The show needs to split up Kyle/Kamilla/Joe and Q/Tiffany for sure.  I’m worried if old school winds up in a minority on a tribe they will get picked off.  
 

I don’t know if the new era players are all bad choices but for a season like this some of them would have been better suited for a regular all star season.  I think the show missed the mark not doing one of those already for new era.  I also don’t see what the point in bringing Colby back is, except he is/was friends and a favorite of Probst and Outback was a popular season.  I just don’t see him doing well myself.  I also think Ozzy getting in was because of CBS, since Probst reportedly didn’t want him for S34 and CBS overruled him.  Since the survival element that Ozzy loves so much about this show is gone he may raise the white flag and beg for mercy to be voted out.   

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3 hours ago, omophagia said:

The first all-stars was the show's eighth season, and the first FvF was its sixteenth.

And for a fun fact, that season was initially supposed to be the second full-on all-stars season.  But either Mark Burnett or Probst had a literal tantrum to get his way (yes, someone in production confirmed it years and years ago) in making it Fans vs. Favorites.

I don't get why Probst didn't just make this a New Era all-star season.  He could've saved so many of these returnees for season sixty, a much more impressive landmark season.

And how are they going to handle the appropriate attention for twenty-four castaways?!  I hope that they stay in ninety-minute episodes to accommodate that many people!

blackwing

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1 hour ago, LadyChatts said:

The show needs to split up Kyle/Kamilla/Joe and Q/Tiffany for sure.  I’m worried if old school winds up in a minority on a tribe they will get picked off.  

This is a big concern for me too.  I presume there will be three tribes of 8.  I really hope that for the seasons with three contestants each (David v Goliath, 46, and 48) that they will each be on a different tribe to start?

Whenever there is an All Star season, isn't it a concern that these people all know each other or know of each other (I imagine there's one big Survivor Alumni Snapchat) and will form alliances in advance?  I know they won't know what tribe they are on, but they can at least have "just in case" conversations.

With 12 people from the "Old School" and 12 people from the "New Era", it would be interesting if for the supposed grand Season 50, they changed things up and didn't have the three random tribes of 8 each.  I think it would be interesting to have two tribes.  Old School and New Era.  It looks like 6 men and 6 women in each era already and I have to think that was done on purpose.  Or maybe do 4 tribes of 6?  Two Old School tribes and two New Era tribes?

One issue of dividing by Old School and New Era, is that I don't see a whole lot of huge muscle in Old School, whereas New Era has Joe and Jonathan.   

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vittek4

12 minutes ago, blackwing said:

With 12 people from the "Old School" and 12 people from the "New Era", it would be interesting if for the supposed grand Season 50, they changed things up and didn't have the three random tribes of 8 each.  I think it would be interesting to have two tribes.  Old School and New Era.  It looks like 6 men and 6 women in each era already and I have to think that was done on purpose.  Or maybe do 4 tribes of 6?  Two Old School tribes and two New Era tribes?

If the New Era has proven anything it’s that 3 tribes gets stale quick. You have to have variation in tribe size/swap timing/advantages season to season or viewer fatigue sets in. And it’s for all these reasons and more I’m expecting three tribes of 8. 
 

Some might argue that three tribes provide more interesting dynamics than two tribes (if you have a 7 person alliance you’re liable to see people picked off one by one), and while I think that holds some water, the premise of a full returnee season provides multiple layers of dynamics that make a large tribe more exciting. 
 

As an addendum, the physical brawling challenges that began HvV and WaW are only possible with two tribes. And those are so much more entertaining than any New Era comp

 

give us two tribes!

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Rodney

Rodney

2 minutes ago, vittek4 said:

If the New Era has proven anything it’s that 3 tribes gets stale quick. You have to have variation in tribe size/swap timing/advantages season to season or viewer fatigue sets in. And it’s for all these reasons and more I’m expecting three tribes of 8. 
 

Some might argue that three tribes provide more interesting dynamics than two tribes (if you have a 7 person alliance you’re liable to see people picked off one by one), and while I think that holds some water, the premise of a full returnee season provides multiple layers of dynamics that make a large tribe more exciting. 
 

As an addendum, the physical brawling challenges that began HvV and WaW are only possible with two tribes. And those are so much more entertaining than any New Era comp

 

give us two tribes!

I wouldn't mind if they tried four tribes again.  If nothing else, they haven't done that since Cook Islands (and almost again in Fiji if Melissa McNulty hadn't panic-attacked herself into a pre-game quit).  At the very least a start with four with a potential swap into three.

luv2lurk

luv2lurk

OK so I read the list and thought who is Joe from S47 which ENDED ONE WEEK AGO? Is he the pizza guy? Then I remembered he was the guy who was edited to win cuz he was so openly kind and won IM challenges . . . Maybe if he had a more distinctive name

Anyway I hope the viewer voting will result in a different game and it will be a longer number of days (one can always dream)

blackwing

blackwing

14 minutes ago, vittek4 said:

If the New Era has proven anything it’s that 3 tribes gets stale quick. You have to have variation in tribe size/swap timing/advantages season to season or viewer fatigue sets in. And it’s for all these reasons and more I’m expecting three tribes of 8. 
 

Some might argue that three tribes provide more interesting dynamics than two tribes (if you have a 7 person alliance you’re liable to see people picked off one by one), and while I think that holds some water, the premise of a full returnee season provides multiple layers of dynamics that make a large tribe more exciting. 
 

As an addendum, the physical brawling challenges that began HvV and WaW are only possible with two tribes. And those are so much more entertaining than any New Era comp

 

give us two tribes!

I'd love to see those physical battle challenges (like the water basketball where Michaela lost her top or the knock each other off the log challenge) but I think I read somewhere that Jeffy said they aren't going to do those anymore because they were "too dangerous".  Boo.

I want grander challenges.  Instead of the tired "obstacle course then puzzle".  Bring back the giant maze where they had to go through and get four tokens.  Bring back memory challenges.  Bring back the "how well do you know each other" challenge.  Bring back the trivia challenge where you have to run through the jungle and read a passage and then go back to the beach and answer questions.

I really hope that there are some new twists and features that make this season different.  I hope there is more randomness and I hate to borrow a phrase from Big Brother, but more "expect the unexpected" things.  Like for example, after the first immunity challenge, the losing tribe will go to TC that night.  But for the rest of the day, they aren't allowed to speak to or interact with each other.  Cameramen can be there to enforce.  No talking, no sign language, no hand gestures, no pointing.  Would love to see what happens.  How do you decide who to vote out if you can only rely on your own counsel and nobody has talked about it?  Jeffy of course would hate it, so it probably will never happen.

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LadyChatts

LadyChatts

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50 minutes ago, blackwing said:

This is a big concern for me too.  I presume there will be three tribes of 8.  I really hope that for the seasons with three contestants each (David v Goliath, 46, and 48) that they will each be on a different tribe to start?

Whenever there is an All Star season, isn't it a concern that these people all know each other or know of each other (I imagine there's one big Survivor Alumni Snapchat) and will form alliances in advance?  I know they won't know what tribe they are on, but they can at least have "just in case" conversations.

With 12 people from the "Old School" and 12 people from the "New Era", it would be interesting if for the supposed grand Season 50, they changed things up and didn't have the three random tribes of 8 each.  I think it would be interesting to have two tribes.  Old School and New Era.  It looks like 6 men and 6 women in each era already and I have to think that was done on purpose.  Or maybe do 4 tribes of 6?  Two Old School tribes and two New Era tribes?

One issue of dividing by Old School and New Era, is that I don't see a whole lot of huge muscle in Old School, whereas New Era has Joe and Jonathan.   

Pre gaming is huge when it comes to all star seasons as it is, and these more current casts are better connected than the older cast members might be.  The old school winners (many of whom we’d been dying to see) got picked off WAW, which was really depressing.  I think new era believes this is their show now, and thought this isn’t their fault, they aren’t playing the Survivor that made it for 40 seasons before this era took in.  I can only image if Probst tried to get the likes of Sandra, Abi, Tony and Penner to do the chicken and waffles thing on the beach-I’m sure their reaction would be to tell him where he can stick those chicken and waffles, not engage with him.  
 

Some people think Carolyn (44) got black balled for going on The Traitors, as Probst has more or less said he is tired of other shows poaching Survivor contestants and that it doesn’t make it special when they come back for Survivor because people have seen them elsewhere on other shows (like making a career out of being a reality TV personality is new and they weren’t bringing the same contestants back season after season after season).  But he does seem territorial and outdated when it comes to Survivor, its relevance and what he thinks the fans want.  If they ever did a remake of Sunset Boulevard I could see him playing the male version of Norma Desmond as he wallows in what he used to be and that it wasn’t him that changed, it was the fans.  

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Lantern7

Lantern7

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I can't remember if I had diminished expectations for S40. Even with Edge of Extinction, that was a good season. I ain't holding out hope for this one, though.

Why, Cirie? The last time you played, you had a meltdown in one challenge AND you wound up out of the game because all the other players had protection. Yes, you could be consider the Patron Saint of Survivor Fans, but coming back for a fifth try is . . . arrrrrrrrrrgh.

It'd be funny if Coach came back with a huge scar on the back of his head, saying, "Please, call me Ben" . . . and nothing else.

Mike White? I get he's buds with Probst, but there's the chance he might be exposed to too much sunlight and burst into flames. Yes, he helped make The Emoji Movie happen, but he seems like a decent guy.

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blackwing

blackwing

17 minutes ago, Lantern7 said:

Mike White? I get he's buds with Probst, but there's the chance he might be exposed to too much sunlight and burst into flames. Yes, he helped make The Emoji Movie happen, but he seems like a decent guy.

I don't think it's fair to have Mike White on.  As was said upthread, everyone will be trying to kiss his ass so they can get a cameo on "The White Lotus".  Or more.  I think one of his buddies from his Survivor season had a multiple episode bit role, wasn't he the boy toy of the resort owner?

I could easily see that people will avoid targeting him and pissing him off, lest he not pick them for White Lotus.

That's an unfair advantage.  Just like when Rob and Ambuh were on Amazing Race and locals went out of their way to help them because they were Rob and Ambuh.  

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seacliffsal

seacliffsal

I don't really see this as an All-Star, Legacy, whatever they're selling it as season.  I also don't want Jeff to see this (and promote it) as a 'which is better-OG Survivor or New Survivor' showdown.  Unfortunately, I think Jeff may see this as a way to validate the 'new era' Survivor which has replaced his failed talk show.  I would love season 50 to be longer and harder than the 'new era' but don't see that happening.  And, Jeff will take every opportunity to remind us all that the 'fans' voted for the season (but, did we really? and did we get to vote for the things that really matter?).  Tribe colors is not the important voting topic that he may think it is...

Will I watch?  Absolutely!  Will I enjoy it?  That's more questionable as I ended up not enjoying season 48 even though I watched it in its entirety.  We saw see.

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