Chit-Chat: The Feels

[Soapy Goddess]

1 minute ago, bluegirl147 said:

The Supremes changing their name to feature the name of one of their singers is not the same thing.  And I could be wrong but it probably wasn't Diana Ross who decided to do that.   My guess it was Barry Gordie. 

First of all, it's Berry Gordy...and it is well known that he had a very long time affair with Ross. He loved and adored her, and GAVE her everything SHE wanted, including HIS baby. Ross wanted her name front & center, so he sanctioned it. Why do you think Mary and Cindy refused to speak to her after the name change.

[Dimity]

10 minutes ago, Soapy Goddess said:

And why is it that I have to watch what I say but you (collectively) don't?  

If you are referencing posts being deleted I'd say almost all of us who have posted here have had that happen.  I know I certainly have.  If you are not sure where you are going wrong I think it would be a good idea to reach out to one of the mods.

[Anela]

1 minute ago, Soapy Goddess said:

First of all, it's Berry Gordy...and it is well known that he had a very long time affair with Ross. He loved and adored her, and GAVE her everything SHE wanted, including HIS baby. Ross wanted her name front & center, so he sanctioned it. Why do you think Mary and Cindy refused to speak to her after the name change.

But she wasn't running the country. 

[Soapy Goddess]

3 minutes ago, Anela said:

I do wonder what would be too much, for a trump supporter - and those who say they didn't vote for him, but back him versus the liberals. 

Not sure I understand what you're trying to say here.

[bluegirl147]

2 minutes ago, Soapy Goddess said:

First of all, it's Berry Gordy...and it is well known that he had a very long time affair with Ross. He loved and adored her, and GAVE her everything SHE wanted, including HIS baby. Ross wanted her name front & center, so he sanctioned it. Why do you think Mary and Cindy refused to speak to her after the name change.

If Trump changed the Kennedy Center to the Melania Center then it would be the same.

[Dimity]

If the world news wasn't already bad enough I've had a friend message me indicating that not only is Trump preparing to sell out Ukraine he is even talking about withdrawing US troops from Europe.  I am hoping she has been misinformed but somehow it would not surprise me.

[Lantern7]

36 minutes ago, anony.miss said:

I will concede he's the King of "hamburders" ; )

. . . and now for the expected “He ain’t working our drive-thru” tweet from BK

[Soapy Goddess]

16 minutes ago, Dimity said:

If you are referencing posts being deleted I'd say almost all of us who have posted here have had that happen.  I know I certainly have.  If you are not sure where you are going wrong I think it would be a good idea to reach out to one of the mods.

Dimitry, I just replied to you, but I was deleted in record time (less than ONE minute!). I will try again to address your idea, but just know that I have numerous times to no avail.  You're not moonlighting, are you? 😉

[Ohiopirate02]

The Department of Defense is pulling books from base libraries that "defy" Trump's various executive orders. Something i am vehemently against, but one of the books on the list makes me chuckle--Hillbilly Elegy.

https://pen.org/julianne-moore-freckleface-strawberry/

[Dimity]

The list is pathetic but this one really jumped out at me given this is the freaking military for gods sake:

War: How Conflict Shaped Us, by Margaret MacMillan

[kittykat]

1 hour ago, Lantern7 said:

Are there any fans of South Park here? One episode that comes to mind is “Breast Cancer Show Ever.” Watch it if you can get it.

Trump is a cancer and we have to fight that fat little lump.

Or were you referencing where Cartman eats his own underwear? 😁

[Avaleigh]

2 hours ago, MostlyContent said:

He does enjoy winding people up. 

 

1 hour ago, anony.miss said:

He's not just "winding people up". He's grooming his voters and Republicans to accept increasing breaches and abuses of presidential power as normal behavior in the Oval Office:

I agree with both of these points. He 100% loves winding people up. He does and says things specifically to upset people on the left. When he says stuff like "Am I allowed to run [for a third term]?" He says it with a sly kind of smirk like he's delighted that he's going to get millions of people angry, worried, afraid, and, most importantly, posting about him on Xitter, Bsky, and wherever else. He firmly believes that there is no such thing as bad publicity. 

At the same time, he's so clearly testing the waters to see if he'll be able to find a way to serve a third term. Everyone should be concerned about this whether they are on the left or right especially when these queries are coming from a guy who so obviously admires the world's dictators. He wants to be some sort of dictator king hybrid, and we're lucky that he isn't a younger, healthier man because I think he'd be harder to stop.

As it is, I don't think he'd have the support to follow through with his apparent desire to be a dictator for life. At least, I hope he wouldn't. 

[Lantern7]

42 minutes ago, kittykat said:

Trump is a cancer and we have to fight that fat little lump.

Or were you referencing where Cartman eats his own underwear? 😁

I think those were from the same episode.

I just want that climax in the schoolyard. I’m not particular as to who should play Wendy.

Edited Yest. at 02:21 AM by Lantern7

[Blergh]

Long-short is that, thanks to one great-grandparent who emigrated here but kept in touch with a sib in the Old Country, I have kin who are just one nation's width away from the Ukraine.

I wish I felt better about their security and those of their fellow compatriots and others in their neck of the woods after #45 decided to blame the victim for getting ambushed.

Why does that not surprise me, though?

[Mollywolly555]

2 hours ago, Dimity said:

If his lips are moving, he's lying.   The biggest outrage today being that he accused Ukraine of being the aggressor in the war where Russia invaded them. 

But of course this is classic Trump.  If he actually ever follows through on the threats he is aiming at, hmm, last count: Canada, Panama, Greenland... I am sure he will twist things to make it look like he had no choice it was all their fault.

10000000x yes.  

[Yeah No]

3 hours ago, Dimity said:

Everything they are doing is straight out of the Nazi playbook.  I only hope it ends the same way, with him cowering in a bunker somewhere.

Only I would prefer if it didn't also result in the total destruction of our country around him like it did with Hitler in Germany.

2 hours ago, MostlyContent said:

He does enjoy winding people up.  IMO, he can tone it down anytime now, but if it has to do with NYC, I doubt he will.  

When is it going to start to feel real to Republicans? This is not just "theatrics" for Trump. He's serious that he's king and he's sure as hell acting like one. It isn't just an act and he isn't just enjoying winding people up. He's actually functioning as a king. And he's banking on people like you who refuse to believe him so he can continue without their objections.

I keep asking "What will it take to wake these people up?" I am willing to hand my university back my MS in Psychology if I am wrong about Trump. THAT is how sure I am.

Look, my husband had to be an adult and admit he was wrong about Trump. I give him a lot of credit. I knew he would come to his senses on his own and I knew pushing him wouldn't do any good because when you push people they usually dig their heels in and resist. But it's gotten to the point with Trump that this shit is getting really DANGEROUS and he's gambling with our national security and safety. Don't wait until the bombs are headed in our direction to wake up.

Just a friendly warning from a prophet of doom.

Speaking of being a prophet - I'm an INFJ in Jungian/MBTI personality type theory and this is what Google has to say about us:

"According to personality typology, INFJs are often considered "prophets" due to their highly developed intuition, ability to deeply understand people and situations, and tendency to have strong premonitions or insights that seem almost prophetic, allowing them to "see" potential outcomes or underlying truths that others might miss."

And yes, this has borne itself out in my life many, many times over. I predicted 9/11. Disregard me at your own peril. Don't say you weren't warned.

2 hours ago, Anela said:

She sees the real him. 

She most certainly does. She isn't wearing blinders.

I keep referencing "The Emperor's New Clothes". It is SO relevant here I recommend everyone finding it online somewhere. Speaking of analogies, it's not quite complete but almost. In Trump's case, it's not just that no one wants to look like an idiot, but no one wants to look like they're against him so they "see" what everyone else "sees".  

1 hour ago, Soapy Goddess said:

Why is it that every analogy I put forth is "not the same thing"?  

And why is it that I have to watch what I say but you (collectively) don't?  

We do have to watch what we say and we have all had posts removed, me included. And as a big fan of analogies I am sorry to say that yours have been more than incomplete as applied to Trump, meaning they most definitely have not been "the same thing".

[JustHereForFood]

7 hours ago, Lantern7 said:

I read what YKW said about Zelensky. I will be donating to a Ukrainian charity later. I just need to figure out which one. Also, do you think I’d get into trouble if I sent Fearless Leader a package of sunflower seeds?

”Dictator without borders.” Fuck him all the way to hell with that shit.

I usually donate through my country's own platforms, but these are the sites that I know of for international donations:

https://u24.gov.ua/

https://savelife.in.ua/en/

Zelensky is 1000 times the president Trump will ever be.

[peacheslatour]

11 minutes ago, Yeah No said:

Only I would prefer if it didn't also result in the total destruction of our country around him like it did with Hitler in Germany.

When is it going to start to feel real to Republicans? This is not just "theatrics" for Trump. He's serious that he's king and he's sure as hell acting like one. It isn't just an act and he isn't just enjoying winding people up. He's actually functioning as a king. And he's banking on people like you who refuse to believe him so he can continue without their objections.

I keep asking "What will it take to wake these people up?" I am willing to hand my university back my MS in Psychology if I am wrong about Trump. THAT is how sure I am.

Look, my husband had to be an adult and admit he was wrong about Trump. I give him a lot of credit. I knew he would come to his senses on his own and I knew pushing him wouldn't do any good because when you push people they usually dig their heels in and resist. But it's gotten to the point with Trump that this shit is getting really DANGEROUS and he's gambling with our national security and safety. Don't wait until the bombs are headed in our direction to wake up.

Just a friendly warning from a prophet of doom.

Speaking of being a prophet - I'm an INFJ in Jungian/MBTI personality type theory and this is what Google has to say about us:

"According to personality typology, INFJs are often considered "prophets" due to their highly developed intuition, ability to deeply understand people and situations, and tendency to have strong premonitions or insights that seem almost prophetic, allowing them to "see" potential outcomes or underlying truths that others might miss."

And yes, this has borne itself out in my life many, many times over. I predicted 9/11. Disregard me at your own peril. Don't say you weren't warned.

She most certainly does. She isn't wearing blinders.

I keep referencing "The Emperor's New Clothes". It is SO relevant here I recommend everyone finding it online somewhere. Speaking of analogies, it's not quite complete but almost. In Trump's case, it's not just that no one wants to look like an idiot, but no one wants to look like they're against him so they "see" what everyone else "sees".  

We do have to watch what we say and we have all had posts removed, me included. And as a big fan of analogies I am sorry to say that yours have been more than incomplete as applied to Trump, meaning they most definitely have not been "the same thing".

I've had my little, fairly mild Pearls Before Swine comic removed twice in the last day and an half. If they don't want us to post memes and cartoons, I wish they'd make it a rule and I won't bother with it any more.

[JustHereForFood]

I fucking hate Trump. Hate hate hate that cowardly, self-centered, Putin's bootlicker. And everyone who voted for him or decided to throw away their vote. My list of people I actively wish death on used to be reserved for people like Putin and Kadyrov or 100%-confirmed serial rapists like Weinstein or Cosby, but he and Musk managed to get places there of their own. They are no better than the rest.

I should probably take a break from this thread for a while to not get myself banned because there is so much more I would like to say but not much of it remains polite.

[Annber03]

2 minutes ago, JustHereForFood said:

there is so much more I would like to say but not much of it remains polite.

This sums up my feelings as well. Not just about Trump and Musk, but also the GOP as a whole. 

[ProudMary]

Speaking of books being pulled:  This is not directly political, adjacent perhaps, as it's something Amazon is doing. I suspect we have a good number of readers in this group who may be affected by this new policy.

Effective February 26th, Amazon will be removing the option to download purchased Kindle books directly to your computer's hard drive. I watched the video below which explains it well. (Video length: 6:51) While it has been a rare occurrence, Kindle editions of certain books have been removed by Amazon, ostensibly for copyright reasons, and those have disappeared from customers' Kindle libraries. 

I'd think that if you've purchased Kindle copies of say, 1984 or Fahrenheit 451 , you might consider downloading those to your hard drive over the next few days.

 

[Ohiopirate02]

11 minutes ago, ProudMary said:

Speaking of books being pulled:  This is not directly political, adjacent perhaps, as it's something Amazon is doing. I suspect we have a good number of readers in this group who may be affected by this new policy.

Effective February 26th, Amazon will be removing the option to download purchased Kindle books directly to your computer's hard drive. I watched the video below which explains it well. (Video length: 6:51) While it has been a rare occurrence, Kindle editions of certain books have been removed by Amazon, ostensibly for copyright reasons, and those have disappeared from customers' Kindle libraries. 

I'd think that if you've purchased Kindle copies of say, 1984 or Fahrenheit 451 , you might consider downloading those to your hard drive over the next few days.

 

I know about this, but i don't think this is rooted in censorship. It's a business decision to keep people tied to Amazon for their Kindle library. They have hooked so many readers who have spent more than a decade now buying licenses for ebooks and spending hundreds or thousands of dollars in the process. Amazon doesn't want to lose those customers now that places like Bookshop.org are selling ebooks. This decision was something Amazon would have been working on before last November.  I know Amazon made changes last year with how they work with the main public library vendor, Overdrive/Libby, and suspect this change is a part of this overarching plan. 

I also want to point out that books disappearing from a Kindle library is not normally Amazon's doing, but the publisher or the copyright holder. They are the ones who decide to pull a book or replace it with an updated edition. All of this is spelled out in the licensing agreement that we all agree to without ever reading them. Though I would not know where to look to actually read one of these agreements. The thing is, we do not own an ebook the way we can own a physical book. All we do is buy a license that allows us to store the title on a specific platform for as long as the publisher or copyright holder allows. 

 

[ProudMary]

11 minutes ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

I know about this, but i don't think this is rooted in censorship. It's a business decision to keep people tied to Amazon for their Kindle library.

Oh, I agree completely. This is--right now--a business decision. I just wanted people to know that if they usually download their book purchase directly to their computer and then transfer it to their Kindle, they won't be able to do it anymore. 

There's nothing to stop Amazon from deleting books from their platform in the future, though. If you have them only on your Kindle, those books will be gone forever. Considering that WaPo has now bent the knee more than once, it's not too big a stretch to imagine that Bezos would remove books from the Kindle platform if he were asked to do so.

[suomi]

 

All the effort Kyiv had expended in wooing the White House, combining flattery with bribery and a share of Ukraine’s mineral wealth, imploded in minutes when Volodymyr Zelenskyy broke the fundamental rule of the new global reality: he told the truth about Donald Trump.

All America’s allies, the great majority of Republican leaders who have bowed to him, and a good number of his own cabinet, know full well that Trump is trapped in a disinformation bubble, but Zelenskyy said it out loud at a press conference on Wednesday.

In this new world where the foreign policy of the most powerful country on Earth has been rapidly reorganised around the fragile ego of a sullen and resentful old man, you might as well launch missiles at America’s eastern seaboard as utter a few words of rebuke.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/feb/19/kyivs-white-house-wooing-implodes-as-zelenskyy-tells-the-truth-about-trump

[anony.miss]

Not so fast giving Putin that rose, Donald!

"The Quinnipiac University Poll released Wednesday found 81 percent of respondents said Putin should not be trusted, including 73 percent of Republicans surveyed and 93 percent of Democrats. Just 9 percent of the voters surveyed said Putin, a former KGB officer who has been in power in Russia for decades, should be trusted."

https://thehill.com/policy/international/5153611-quinnipiac-poll-russia-putin-trust/

... maybe the penny will finally drop for Republicans (and the few remaining Indies supporting Trump) when they realize Trump's policies benefit only Putin.  (Trump's hardly been subtle about his agenda, imo - isolating Americans by threatening allies,  undermining American prestige abroad,  the military now in the hands of an incompetent drunk,  the head of intel a pro-Russian mouthpiece,  the sense of economic instability growing - mass firings, tariffs, Trumpflation -  and now destabilizing the world by trashing NATO.) There's not a single benefit to American democracy in anything Trump has done since taking office - but damn, you sure are happy about the last month if you're Vladimir Putin, former KGB czar.

Edited Yest. at 06:28 AM by anony.miss

[Lantern7]

53 minutes ago, anony.miss said:

... maybe the penny will finally drop for Republicans (and the few remaining Indies supporting Trump) when they realize Trump's policies benefit only Putin.

I'd sooner expect blood from a stone.

Lets say enough Republicans realize staying in bed with Dear Leader is a bad idea. There are probably enough true believers around him to make that difficult, and they'd have to try and sell it to his cult of personality.

Edited Yest. at 07:10 AM by Lantern7

[CM-BlueButterfly]

Hi everyone,

how are you doing?

As there have been several posts about it and the request was made, I’d like to address the practice of post removal. Based on the fact that politics is a subject we can get very passionate about and this is a thread that may be subject to closure, I felt it was fairest to treat and moderate this particular thread a little differently. I opted primarily for post removal either followed by mod notes or after mod notes were given. It was my understanding that posts that violated mod notes given in a respective topic had always been removed without any additional explanation, so, I didn’t feel the need for clarification.

I can see how it can feel disconcerting if that wasn’t understood and I apologize for any misunderstandings or uncertainty my decision has caused.

I understand that a mod note that doesn’t seem clear can lead to insecurity. Since I know what I’m talking about when I leave a mod note (as do the team members I consult with), it’s hard for me to determine if anything, and what specifically, is unclear, though. So, please be so kind and look through the mod notes. If there’s anything that needs clarifying, kindly post your question here. I’ll collect them until the end of next Wednesday, Feb 26th and then address them in a Q&A style post here. (Please note that any questions or comments posted in this thread will be removed). 

Thank you! 

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[anony.miss]

1 hour ago, Soapy Goddess said:

Not the same because mine are removed at lightening speed.

JMO: I think the mods do a great job, but if I felt like you do, I'd contact them privately. Publicly attacking them over and over again  - for months, now -  fixes nothing, and only derails on-topic discussion for the rest of us.

 

6 hours ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

Something i am vehemently against, but one of the books on the list makes me chuckle--Hillbilly Elegy.

Ha! Hoist, meet petard.

This dangerous, terrifying piece of propaganda is also banned:

Edited Yest. at 08:23 AM by anony.miss

[Makai]

As far as I can tell, this hasn’t been posted here and some of the responses are hilarious.  (Anyone know how to get a link address from the Bluesky app)
 

This one really sums up where I am right now.

And, yes, I did download Mapquest to see if they can replace Google maps for me. Well played, Mapquest. 🫡

Edited Yest. at 08:38 AM by Makai

[Soapy Goddess]

5 hours ago, Yeah No said:

And as a big fan of analogies I am sorry to say that yours have been more than incomplete as applied to Trump, meaning they most definitely have not been "the same thing".

I replied to you a few minutes ago, but once again "poof"....with NO explanation.

But that ship has sailed, so let me repeat myself regarding the meme analogies. They're about context and irony. A meme is complete in and of itself; therefore, they are not "incomplete". 

 

[Soapy Goddess]

4 minutes ago, anony.miss said:

I think the mods do a great job, but if I felt like you do, I'd contact them privately about it. Publicly attacking them over and over again  - for months, now -  fixes nothing, and only derails on-topic conversation for the rest of us here. JMO.

I couldn't agree more! And I have...numerous times, to no avail. I've even made a few suggestions without any response. And it hasn't been "for months" either. Mods are supposed to be available for ALL members, not just the like-minded. But unfortunately, that hasn't been the case. And if you think I'm the only one who sees the inconsistency, think again. You only see me because I'm trying to advocate for all the conservative members who don't want to enter the fray.

[anony.miss]

1 hour ago, Soapy Goddess said:

 And it hasn't been "for months" either.

The first post of yours I read complaining about this was back in November or December; it's now almost March. 

Quote

And I have...numerous times, to no avail.

If  the mods are choosing to respond via forum messages with links, then that's your answer; that's how moderating is happening in this forum. So do what the rest of us do. Post comments, memes and cartoons knowing deletions happen. Or post somewhere else where the rules are more to your liking. But posting negative talk about the mods and this forum overall is just not tenable, imo.

It 's also disruptive to the people who post here, without incident, every day. Not to speak for anyone else, but I do get a strong sense that many people value this forum. We're grateful it's here. And part of the issue seems to be that you don't value this forum as it is, or like it much. At times, from what you've posted,  you've seemed more resentful than appreciative, with a list of things you want changed.  And that's absolutely your right to feel that way, but I'd like to point out something you might want to consider: most forums don't tolerate any public criticism of their mods, of any kind. So if nothing else, maybe you can appreciate you've been given a lot of leeway to criticize the very people who make this forum possible. More than fair on their part, imo.

Edited Yest. at 10:15 AM by anony.miss

[tres bien]

Not a New Yorker but I found Trump’s interference in the state’s decision to enact The NY congestion pricing program puzzling 

The Department of Transportation rescinded the federal approval then Trump claimed victory and declared himself king

The governor swiftly defended the program and condemned Trump’s decision and vowed to challenge it in court 

Governor Hochul said “we are a nation of laws not ruled by a king. We’ll see you in court “

Standing up to him will be up to democrats there’s no waiting for the other side 

Edited Yest. at 12:24 PM by tres bien

[MostlyContent]

I don't know how in the heck we are supposed to talk to each other when post after post gets deleted.  I know this post probably won't last long, but for whoever might happen to read it before it goes *POOF*, I've seen post after post get nuked since the inception of this thread.  

Recently, it seems that not only the more conservative posts are deleted but also others.  

Weeks ago, during my existential crisis involving Valentine's Day, Amethysts (and also Rose Quartz if you must know 😂) and my somewhat common decision to take an order when I'd really like to NOT do that, I told another member (Bluegirl or something similar) that I would answer a question she asked me.  I thought about it for the next couple of weeks while I was working.  

The question was something similar to that which was asked of Soapy today.  Basically........"What would/could possibly change your mind about your views".  I saw her try to answer, but no go.  *POOF* 

I've taken notes on my thoughts about my eventual answer to Blue and narrowed it down to 3 main things.  The deal is.....I have absolutely no desire to spend time on answering a question that I feel was asked in good faith if it's just going to be deleted within minutes.  There's no point.  

I have some responses to Yeah no that I'd like to make.  And others.  I've participated on 'message boards' for almost 25 years, and I've never, never  seen a board (or is it just this thread?  Who knows at this point.  I was just here to read hilarious thoughts about TV shows for over a decade before seeing a link to this area) that simply deleted posts.  Ever.  Most of them were so 'free speech' it wasn't funny.  The subject matter was vast, so it's not that.  

I don't get it.  How are we supposed to talk?  Or is that the lesson?  We're not allowed to? 

12 minutes ago, anony.miss said:

most forums don't tolerate any public criticism of their mods, of any kind.

 I don't think anyone is trying to criticize the MODS.  It's confusing in this day and age with the advances that most boards that still exist have made.  That's all.  

Maybe just leave the avatar and nuke the post with some sort of explanation written there instead?  That way others might know that we are trying to speak.  Not offensively.  Not rudely.  Just trying damn hard to respond.  

 

 

 

[Yeah No]

4 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

But that ship has sailed, so let me repeat myself regarding the meme analogies. They're about context and irony. A meme is complete in and of itself; therefore, they are not "incomplete". 

In my case I wasn't even talking about the memes but the comments you've made comparing and equating Trump's actions to those of Democrats. That's what I don't agree can be compared on a 1-1 basis. I haven't even noticed the memes. But I don't want to get into that anyway.

4 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

I couldn't agree more! And I have...numerous times, to no avail. I've even made a few suggestions without any response. And it hasn't been "for months" either. Mods are supposed to be available for ALL members, not just the like-minded. But unfortunately, that hasn't been the case. And if you think I'm the only one who sees the inconsistency, think again. You only see me because I'm trying to advocate for all the conservative members who don't want to enter the fray.

I know you think you're being singled out but trust me you're not. I have scratched my head too when my posts have been removed. I am sure I'm not alone in not receiving responses from mods. either. And there is no universal rule book by which moderators must act. I have been on threads where people have been inhospitable to me and if I don't like it I can leave. That's pretty much universal on any board. The moderator is not responsible for the fact that others disagree with you and has no obligation to engage in censuring others to make you feel better or punitive action based on your opinions not being well received. If people insult you personally that's another story. Just saying that Trump supporters aren't seeing reality is not a personal insult, though. It's an opinion not directed at you personally. I'm talking about flames here. Personal name calling, slights of you in particular, etc.  And as to posts being removed, the mod. has already addressed that.

[EtheltoTillie]

Last night Rachel Maddow started with trying to cheer up/rev up the audience with three inspiring segments, one was a speech by Gov. Pritzker of Ill. Re the March of the Nazis in Skokie in 1978. Then our NY gov Hochul standing up to King Trump regarding his attempt to rescind our NYC congestion pricing.  You probably can catch these on YouTube. 
Then the rest of the show was typically depressing.  

[Dimity]

7 hours ago, suomi said:

 

All the effort Kyiv had expended in wooing the White House, combining flattery with bribery and a share of Ukraine’s mineral wealth, imploded in minutes when Volodymyr Zelenskyy broke the fundamental rule of the new global reality: he told the truth about Donald Trump.

All America’s allies, the great majority of Republican leaders who have bowed to him, and a good number of his own cabinet, know full well that Trump is trapped in a disinformation bubble, but Zelenskyy said it out loud at a press conference on Wednesday.

In this new world where the foreign policy of the most powerful country on Earth has been rapidly reorganised around the fragile ego of a sullen and resentful old man, you might as well launch missiles at America’s eastern seaboard as utter a few words of rebuke.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/feb/19/kyivs-white-house-wooing-implodes-as-zelenskyy-tells-the-truth-about-trump

Thank you for linking this article. And "sullen and resentful old man" is now my favourite description of Trump. 

Canada needs to learn from Zelensky, no appeasement.

[Yeah No]

2 hours ago, MostlyContent said:

I don't know how in the heck we are supposed to talk to each other when post after post gets deleted.  I know this post probably won't last long, but for whoever might happen to read it before it goes *POOF*, I've seen post after post get nuked since the inception of this thread.  

Recently, it seems that not only the more conservative posts are deleted but also others.  

Weeks ago, during my existential crisis involving Valentine's Day, Amethysts (and also Rose Quartz if you must know 😂)  I've participated on 'message boards' for almost 25 years, and I've never, never  seen a board (or is it just this thread?  Who knows at this point.  I was just here to read hilarious thoughts about TV shows for over a decade before seeing a link to this area) that simply deleted posts.  Ever.  Most of them were so 'free speech' it wasn't funny.  The subject matter was vast, so it's not that.  

I don't get it.  How are we supposed to talk?  Or is that the lesson?  We're not allowed to? 

 I don't think anyone is trying to criticize the MODS.  It's confusing in this day and age with the advances that most boards that still exist have made.  That's all.  

Maybe just leave the avatar and nuke the post with some sort of explanation written there instead?  That way others might know that we are trying to speak.  Not offensively.  Not rudely.  Just trying damn hard to respond.  

I've seen this before and not just here. Again, a chat board is not a democracy. If the mod. doesn't like something it's their prerogative to delete it. Period, the end, and they don't even owe you an explanation. In fact the explanation we have gotten is 10x better than you'd get in most places. And I've been on and even run chat boards and mailing lists for over 25 years myself.

BTW the irony is not lost on me that people who defend Trump acting like an autocrat that can attempt to ruin and cancel people at will even when he doesn't have that authority per our laws and government rules should expect a chat board to be a democracy. Just as Elon would censure and promote ideas and people on X the people that a chat board can do similar. It boggles my mind how Republicans would defend Trump and Elon on the grand scale for stuff like this but expect this place to be "fair" to them or anyone else. The incredible irony is not lost on me.

[bluegirl147]

4 minutes ago, Dimity said:

And "sullen and resentful old man" is now my favourite description of Trump. 

As long as I live I will never understand how anyone can think he is capable of doing anything that benefits anyone but him.  And honestly at this point it seems he is now doing things that benefit Musk and Putin.  So to recap, there was Russian interference in 2016 and Trump has openly said Musk "helped" him win in 2024.  Sure looks like to use a word Trump hates, coercion.  

11 minutes ago, Dimity said:

Canada needs to learn from Zelensky, no appeasement.

We all remember the British PM before Churchill thought appeasing Hitler would work.  For anyone who doesn't know, it didn't work.

14 minutes ago, EtheltoTillie said:

Then the rest of the show was typically depressing.  

I really believe a lot of what Musk and Trump are doing (well maybe not Trump because he is an idiot and not strategic at all) is psychological warfare.  A lot of what they are doing hopefully isn't going to last long term but the fear it has instilled will last longer.

3 hours ago, MostlyContent said:

I've taken notes on my thoughts about my eventual answer to Blue and narrowed it down to 3 main things.  The deal is.....I have absolutely no desire to spend time on answering a question that I feel was asked in good faith if it's just going to be deleted within minutes.  There's no point.  

If you answer in good faith I don't see why your post would be deleted.  The post of yours I just quoted is still here.

3 hours ago, tres bien said:

Governor Hochul said “we are a nation of laws not ruled by a king. We’ll see you in court “

Could you imagine if her predecessor was still in office? 

 

[Yeah No]

47 minutes ago, bluegirl147 said:

I really believe a lot of what Musk and Trump are doing (well maybe not Trump because he is an idiot and not strategic at all) is psychological warfare.  A lot of what they are doing hopefully isn't going to last long term but the fear it has instilled will last longer.

Yeah a lot of it is psychological warfare. Trump thinks that if he makes the rest of the world afraid of him and hence the US we will be in a better position to bargain for what we want. But "winning by intimidation" or psychological extortion/blackmail is not befitting a great country like ours. We should be above mob boss and dictator tactics. It's not the only way to operate effectively and I even doubt that it would be effective as it's just making us look ridiculous to the rest of the world. And I don't think he's just doing it to intimidate other countries into being "fair" to the US but to screw them over to his personal benefit. Because after all, that's right out of his playbook from way back. And that leopard definitely hasn't changed his spots!

Edited 22 hours ago by Yeah No

[bluegirl147]

21 minutes ago, Yeah No said:

But "winning by intimidation" or psychological extortion/blackmail is not befitting a great country like ours. We should be above mob boss and dictator tactics.

But a significant percentage of the Republican base want him to do what he is doing. Of course they don't realize it is going to blow back on them.  But they sure do enjoy him threatening and belittling people they think are beneath him and by extension them. 

31 minutes ago, Yeah No said:

And I don't think he's just doing it to intimidate other countries into being "fair" to the US but to screw them over to his personal benefit.

According to reports he told Zelensky the US would keep defending Ukraine if they signed over all their mineral rights.  I'm sure those minerals would have found their way into Trump's Musk's  Putin's pocket.

 

[Dimity]

46 minutes ago, bluegirl147 said:

We all remember the British PM before Churchill thought appeasing Hitler would work.  For anyone who doesn't know, it didn't work.

Exactly.  And an unintended consequence of Trump's warmongering, at least in Canada, is that we have embraced patriotism and have come together in ways that would have seem unlikely a few months ago.  He isn't going to get a 51st state by persuasion and despite his sabre rattling I doubt he's prepared to actually try to annex us - although I am sure he's looking at what Germany did in Europe and wondering if he can get away with it.

Just now, bluegirl147 said:

But they sure do enjoy him threatening and belittling people they think are beneath him and by extension them.

Not to keep dragging Canada into this but it was appalling to me how quickly his base, and that includes members of Congress/Senate jumped on the dump on Canada bandwagon when Dear Leader started mocking and belittling our PM and us.

[Yeah No]

24 minutes ago, bluegirl147 said:

But a significant percentage of the Republican base want him to do what he is doing. Of course they don't realize it is going to blow back on them.  But they sure do enjoy him threatening and belittling people they think are beneath him and by extension them. 

True, but also their media has been conditioning them to believe that "weak Democrats" have let the world run roughshod over us and so they think this is an earned payback for that. And it's not. It's just a huge man-baby/schoolyard bully getting out all his dysfunction on the world thinking it makes him a big tough guy and winner. Meanwhile it can only backfire on us. I don't know why even the more rational Republicans don't see that there was a reason even THEIR politicians didn't act like this. It's because it doesn't work. It's not even that we were trying to be "nice" - we just know better than to poke bears and not think it's going to have negative consequences for us.

I've said this before but they call it "diplomacy" for a reason. You have to be diplomatic and not offend people you want to make a deal with. Maybe Trump thinks he can do that in his crooked business dealings but that's not the way the world works on the grand scale. Even Reagan telling Gorbachov to "take down that wall" was polite and effective compared to this. This will only send them into the back room to figure out how to really screw Trump (and us) over. So I ask Republicans to look into THEIR political history and tell me why this is better than anything THEIR presidents have done. I am sorry but it's NOT. And it's pretty sad when I can make a comparison that's in favor of REAGAN of all people! How low the Republicans have sunk with this clown....

[tres bien]

Bobby Jr’s been in charge of HHS for about a week now and very busy. He issued new guidelines for what we’re to recognize as sexual orientation. 
You can be a man or a woman depending on your plumbing at birth 

The rest of you can fuck off because apparently we have to be a nation of exclusivity 

Edited 20 hours ago by tres bien

[Notabug]

Just now, tres bien said:

Bobby Jr’s been in charge of HHS for about a week now and very busy. He issued new guidelines for what we’re to recognize as sexual orientation. 
You can be a man or a woman depending on your plumbing at birth 

The rest of you can fuck off because apparently we have to be a nation of non exclusivity 

What is the plan for children born with ambiguous genitalia?  It happens.  Not often, but it happens in about 1 out of 2000 kids.  

[tres bien]

14 minutes ago, Notabug said:

What is the plan for children born with ambiguous genitalia?  It happens.  Not often, but it happens in about 1 out of 2000 kids.  

Plan?  Do they ever have plans?  ☹️

[ProudMary]

8 minutes ago, tres bien said:

Plan?  Do they ever have plans?  ☹️

Maybe "a concept of a plan."

Edited 20 hours ago by ProudMary
Typo correction

[bluegirl147]

7 minutes ago, ProudMary said:

Maybe "a concept of a plan."

I don't even think he has that now.  Trump is setting things up for other people to be blamed when things inevitably go bad, very bad. Before all is said and done we will hear Elon Musk? I barely know him.   And if things are going well (yeah right) Trump will take the credit. That has been his MO his whole life.

[Anela]

3 hours ago, Yeah No said:

I've seen this before and not just here. Again, a chat board is not a democracy. If the mod. doesn't like something it's their prerogative to delete it. Period, the end, and they don't even owe you an explanation. In fact the explanation we have gotten is 10x better than you'd get in most places. And I've been on and even run chat boards and mailing lists for over 25 years myself.

BTW the irony is not lost on me that people who defend Trump acting like an autocrat that can attempt to ruin and cancel people at will even when he doesn't have that authority per our laws and government rules should expect a chat board to be a democracy. Just as Elon would censure and promote ideas and people on X the people that a chat board can do similar. It boggles my mind how Republicans would defend Trump and Elon on the grand scale for stuff like this but expect this place to be "fair" to them or anyone else. The incredible irony is not lost on me.

I’ve only been on one board that doesn’t delete posts or threads, but people still get banned.  Every other board deletes posts, and you’re lucky if they’re just deleted, and you aren’t notified.  Being notified usually means that you have points against you, too.  

I remember when Elon bought twitter, and MAGA people on another forum - one with a private political board - were all excited about the “Wild Wild West” being back. They were not people looking for unity. 

[Dimity]

1 minute ago, Anela said:

I’ve only been on one board that doesn’t delete posts or threads, but people still get banned.

The first board I was ever actively on was pretty tough.  The mods would come in and tell people not to 'feed the trolls' and if you ever posted anything about taking your marbles and leaving you were gone.  No second chances.  But that was a board where political conversation wasn't just permitted it was pretty much the point. 

I really appreciate this thread because it's kept me sane in the last few months and if I still want to 'visit' primetimer and need a break from politics there are tons of other threads to read and post in.  I don't think I could handle any board that was meant to be totally political right now!