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4 hours ago, peacheslatour said:

Do we really want to devolve into this?

 

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I don't think we have a choice. We need sucker punches. We need steel chairs to the backs of heads. Professional wrestling has a LOT to answer for (especially Vince McMahon), but the crap that goes on there might have to play out in Washington. Minimum, I want the Democratic Party response to start with the speaker burying her face in her hands, muttering "Jesus fucking Christ" under her breath.

By the way . . . that loony lady the GOP brought out to respond to Biden's SOTU last year . . . is she still in office?

Joe Biden is a way better man than I could ever be. If I was told that MTG had come to MY State of the Union in full MAGA regalia, I would've had her intercepted and barred from the Capitol. If Democrats attending the SOTU bring in people that have been directly hurt by the current administration, the odds are good that they'll never make it into the chamber. That's how little I think of Trump and his cartel.

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41 minutes ago, Dimity said:

My parents were of the Silent Generation and living through the Depression and WWII affected them but not unlike the baby boomer  those born in 1928 had a different childhood to those born in 1945! 

If we want to break it down to war - 1928ers were in Korea, 1945ers went to Vietnam.  I may be wrong but I think Gen X may be the first generation that didn't see many of their cohorts drafted and sent off to fight.

An Amendment to Be (Bart's line)

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24 minutes ago, tres bien said:

In other Trump news today he forced the head of the NY office of the FBI into retirement after he questioned Trump’s pursuit of FBI agents investigating Jan 6 cases

And USAID’s acting assistant administrator for global health has been put on leave for trying to do his job and documenting what is happening -- he wrote a memo stating that, despite a promise of waivers by Marco Rubio, the administration has failed to protect programs that deliver lifesaving assistance, which will "no doubt result in preventable death, destabilization, and threats to national security on a massive scale.” CBS News

On the flip side, one of the crytpo bros with a civil fraud case pending against him by the SEC had that case halted after he bought $75 million of World Liberty Tokens (75% of the revenue goes to the Trump family).  CNN

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19 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

On Musk's social media platform, X, a person responded to the sketch, stating, "I can’t imagine the kind of person who finds this funny.”

"Humor fails when it lies," Musk fired back in a reply.

So sexy. So pithy. So wise. I long to give him his 15th child. Where should I drop off my eggs? 

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2 minutes ago, Milk-Eyed Mender said:

So sexy. So pithy. So wise. I long to give him his 15th child. Where should I drop off my eggs? 

Eggs from you, or the eggs you have to buy?

I’m tired of the SNL bits, only because I can’t get pleasure from these villains being mocked, even when ex-cast members return from the cornfield to do the job.

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5 minutes ago, Lantern7 said:

Eggs from you, or the eggs you have to buy?

I’m tired of the SNL bits, only because I can’t get pleasure from these villains being mocked, even when ex-cast members return from the cornfield to do the job.

LOL! He's just so friggin' repugnant and damaged the idea that any woman willingly procreates with him baffles me. And that goes double for Vance and Trump. 

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11 minutes ago, Milk-Eyed Mender said:

LOL! He's just so friggin' repugnant and damaged the idea that any woman willingly procreates with him baffles me. And that goes double for Vance and Trump. 

I was thinking is there a billionaire that women or men would want to be with if not for their money?  Musk? Nope.  Bezos? Nope.  Zuckerberg? Nope.

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I love how guys like Musk and Trump love to dish it out but can't seem to take it when people mock them in turn. I thought they hated "sensitive snowflakes". 

40 minutes ago, Lantern7 said:

I don't think we have a choice. We need sucker punches. We need steel chairs to the backs of heads. Professional wrestling has a LOT to answer for (especially Vince McMahon), but the crap that goes on there might have to play out in Washington. Minimum, I want the Democratic Party response to start with the speaker burying her face in her hands, muttering "Jesus fucking Christ" under her breath.

Agreed. We hear all the time that the Democrats are too timid and too polite, so now's the time to show they can take the gloves off and fight back. When you've got poeple out there doing Nazi salutes and siding with dictators, the time to be polite is over. 

Like I've said, it's so frustrating 'cause it feels like the Democrats can't seem to win either way with some people out there (speaking in general). If they don't fight back, they're seen as weak, if they do, they're being too pushy and rude and going too far. 

Meanwhile the GOP can just trample around like a bull in a china shop and that's fine, that's just the GOP for ya, that's how they are. They get celebrated for it and get careers out of it. 

But yeah, at this point, I'm done playing nice. We need to fight back and we need to fight back hard. And we need to do it in a way that gets the public at large on our side. 

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51 minutes ago, Lantern7 said:

By the way . . . that loony lady the GOP brought out to respond to Biden's SOTU last year . . . is she still in office?

Oh yeah, she was in the news a couple of weeks ago. Seems she's "concerned" that those Musk/Trump cuts to NIH Grants might just affect the University of Alabama. 

https://www.al.com/news/2025/02/katie-britt-vows-to-work-with-rfk-jr-after-nih-funding-cuts-cause-concern-in-alabama.html

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5 hours ago, mostlylurking said:

This is what I’m thinking too which is why RFK Jr. is pretty much in an impossible position. He’s too out there for the status quo but he’s not wacky enough for the anti vax community. 

Au contraire. RFK Jr.'s Media guy is Del Bigtree, a big name in the antivax community for several years... he has a podcast called High Wire, spouting such lies and misinformation that he was kicked off of other platforms. Unfortunately, he is fundded by  a a billionnaire whose name i forget.  Bigtree touts his minimal  experience as a producer on the Dr Phil show,  so nuff said.  Other than that, pre anti vax, Bigtree was just a two bit unemployed actor, playwright, in NY. 

RJK Jr.  is definitely wacky enough for that crowd who do not care about the truth.

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7 hours ago, bluegirl147 said:

I have also defended Pelosi and I do think she accomplished a lot but yeah it's time for her to go.  Fresh blood is essential for the Democratic party to not only survive but thrive.  

There is local chatter that she will be stepping down at the end of her current term. AOC’s former chief of staff announced in Feb that he’s challenging Pelosi for the seat. 

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Trump halted military aid to Ukraine and is (apparently) considering lifting sanctions on Russia. Way to go, Krasnov.

The stock market, also, had it's worse one-day slide since the March 2020 Covid days. [The little chyron box on FOX news literally showed the market sinking in real-time as Trump talked about the tariffs on Mexico/China...]

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1 hour ago, LexieLily said:

Trump halted military aid to Ukraine and is (apparently) considering lifting sanctions on Russia. Way to go, Krasnov.

The stock market, also, had it's worse one-day slide since the March 2020 Covid days. [The little chyron box on FOX news literally showed the market sinking in real-time as Trump talked about the tariffs on Mexico/China...]

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1 hour ago, LexieLily said:

The stock market, also, had it's worse one-day slide since the March 2020 Covid days. [The little chyron box on FOX news literally showed the market sinking in real-time as Trump talked about the tariffs on Mexico/China...]

I'm sure all the coprorate big wigs are just thrilled about that...

 

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Radical action is needed. It will probably never happen, though.

Here's Jon Stewart going over Friday's fiasco. I finally got to see right wing media's reaction . . . and they did not flinch in painting Zelenskyy as the villain. Also, way too many attempts to draw a parallel to Jon Cena's "heel-turn." First of all, when is wrestling newsworthy? Secondly, we all know Trump is the bad guy. Cena has done more "Make a Wish" requests than anyone. Trump would only do that if a dying child's greatest wish was to set a homeless man on fire.

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16 hours ago, peacheslatour said:

Do we really want to devolve into this?

 

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When MTG and Bobert shouted at President Biden during the State of the Union address in March 2022 they should have been removed from the chamber 

They weren’t so their behavior was acceptable to the republicans and the republican viewing audience 

Basically the gloves came off. The democrats should not sit idly by tonight. They should boo. Maybe turn their backs to him

He does not deserve the respect that we normally give to the POTUS

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13 minutes ago, bluegirl147 said:

This isn't a surprise.  It's what dictators do. How long before we start seeing dissenters "fall" out of windows?

I posted upthread a while back that the silence had more to it than being primaried.  Then I heard a democratic lawmaker hint that his republican friends were saying something like this behind closed doors - as in intimidation, threats, etc.  And now we have this headline.  I wish all of them being threatened would stand up with a sign tonight.  It would be harder to accomplish when it is all out in the open.  Of course there are risks to that too.  

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This is just anecdotal but someone shared a FB post by someone who owns an independent contact delivery company that delivers packages for Amazon. He said they usually are told how many deliveries there will be three days out.  When they arrive there is sometimes a small difference of more or less packages. Yesterday their deliveries were 17% less than expected. Three days from Friday. The day people weren't supposed to buy anything.  

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6 minutes ago, bluegirl147 said:

This is just anecdotal but someone shared a FB post by someone who owns an independent contact delivery company that delivers packages for Amazon. He said they usually are told how many deliveries there will be three days out.  When they arrive there is sometimes a small difference of more or less packages. Yesterday their deliveries were 17% less than expected. Three days from Friday. The day people weren't supposed to buy anything.  

I didn't and I don't plan to.

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Saw some rightwing pundit on a local talk show today talking up the positives of companies wanting employees to put in 60 hour work weeks and changing the retirement age to 70.  One of those occasions where you want to reach through the TV screen and shake someone!  Not the rightwing pundit, who expects better from them? But the interviewer who did not push back and did not make any of the points I would have wanted them to make.

Like, just as one example, 60 hours at a desk in front of a computer screen would be bad enough but do they really think anyone working at a hard, physical possibly out door job should be working 12 hour days on a regular basis?   And should that same person still be doing that job at 70??

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I'll be honest and say that I don't think the people who came up with this protest truly thought the whole thing through. I get wanting to hurt retailers for how they have caved to Trump, but a one-day no-buy is not it. For a protest like this to work, it needs to be a week minimum. You also have to look at a calendar to see which week would be feasible for the vast majority of people and would hurt the retailers the most. The absolute worst time for people to not buy anything is from the last day of a month to the 3rd of the next month. This is when people who only get paid monthly get paid, and when people who receive government assistance get paid. Those assistance checks barely cover the necessities. The goal is to hurt retailers not hurt poor people. A week long protest of Walmart, Amazon, Target, etc. from the 16th-22nd of a month would have a greater impact than a one-day on the final day of the month.

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12 minutes ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

A week long protest of Walmart, Amazon, Target, etc. from the 16th-22nd of a month would have a greater impact than a one-day on the final day of the month.

I have no idea what impact this will have but here in Canada we're being asked to not buy American as much as we possibly can.  And we are being strongly urged not to vacation in the US for the foreseeable future.  I know it's a drop in the bucket but not one single person I know is heading down South this year and several friends are in the process of selling their vacation homes in Florida.

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19 minutes ago, Dimity said:

Saw some rightwing pundit on a local talk show today talking up the positives of companies wanting employees to put in 60 hour work weeks and changing the retirement age to 70.  One of those occasions where you want to reach through the TV screen and shake someone!  Not the rightwing pundit, who expects better from them? But the interviewer who did not push back and did not make any of the points I would have wanted them to make.

Like, just as one example, 60 hours at a desk in front of a computer screen would be bad enough but do they really think anyone working at a hard, physical possibly out door job should be working 12 hour days on a regular basis?   And should that same person still be doing that job at 70??

So these 60 hr weeks are people going to be paid for 60 hrs?  Because I have hard time believing in the country I live in where employers look at labor as an expensive line item on their budget is going to want to pay employees more.

17 minutes ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

I'll be honest and say that I don't think the people who came up with this protest truly thought the whole thing through. I get wanting to hurt retailers for how they have caved to Trump, but a one-day no-buy is not it. For a protest like this to work, it needs to be a week minimum. You also have to look at a calendar to see which week would be feasible for the vast majority of people and would hurt the retailers the most. The absolute worst time for people to not buy anything is from the last day of a month to the 3rd of the next month. This is when people who only get paid monthly get paid, and when people who receive government assistance get paid. Those assistance checks barely cover the necessities. The goal is to hurt retailers not hurt poor people. A week long protest of Walmart, Amazon, Target, etc. from the 16th-22nd of a month would have a greater impact than a one-day on the final day of the month.

I do think a more targeted (no pun intended) approach would work better.  I could do without Walmart.  Rarely go to Target and rarely buy from Amazon. Blanket economic boycotts hurt small businesses.  And Friday probably wasn't a good idea. For a lot of people that is payday.

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24 minutes ago, bluegirl147 said:

So these 60 hr weeks are people going to be paid for 60 hrs?  Because I have hard time believing in the country I live in where employers look at labor as an expensive line item on their budget is going to want to pay employees more.

I don't know for sure but I suspect what they are after is hiring less people.  I have no idea how they think this would work in real world experience.  It's the idea of people having any kind of life other than working and sleeping that galls them.

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1 minute ago, Dimity said:

I don't know for sure but I suspect what they are after is hiring less people.  I have no idea how they think this would work in real world experience.  It's the idea of people having any kind of life other than working and sleeping that galls them.

He's just gonna do the same thing he did at Twitter, which has been a resounding failure.

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4 minutes ago, Dimity said:

I don't know for sure but I suspect what they are after is hiring less people.  I have no idea how they think this would work in real world experience.  It's the idea of people having any kind of life other than working and sleeping that galls them.

Yeah, that Google executive was talking about a person working for 60 hours a week but only getting paid for 40 hours. And it is a way for them to get the same "productivity" out of few workers and save the company the salary and benefits package for what would be the "extra" employees.

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This motherf*ucker, sorry I mean couchf*cker:

Anger over Vance 'random country' peacekeeping remark

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UK opposition politicians accused JD Vance of disrespecting British forces after he said a US stake in Ukraine's economy was a "better security guarantee than 20,000 troops from some random country that hasn't fought a war in 30 or 40 years".

The UK and France have said they would be willing to put troops on the ground in Ukraine as part of a peace deal.

Vance has since insisted he did not "even mention the UK or France", adding that both had "fought bravely alongside the US over the last 20 years, and beyond".

However, he did not specify which country or countries he was referring to.

 

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5 minutes ago, Dimity said:

I don't know for sure but I suspect what they are after is hiring less people.  I have no idea how they think this would work in real world experience. 

Having less people working doesn't mean there is less work to do.  I know employers know this but they just don't care.  The days of calling in someone to work for someone who reported off are becoming a thing of the past.

8 minutes ago, Dimity said:

  It's the idea of people having any kind of life other than working and sleeping that galls them.

They also don't want you to have any time to realize what they are actually doing to this country and us the taxpayers. Or to go to school in order to get a better job. They want you to be a slave basically.

8 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

He's just gonna do the same thing he did at Twitter, which has been a resounding failure.

The thing with people like Musk and Trump is they never admit anything they are connected to is a failure.  If something fails it's not their fault. It's always someone else's fault.  I feel like Trump in addition to being indebted to Musk for reasons also knows when things go south and they will, he can blame Musk. And his base will believe it.

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7 minutes ago, Dimity said:

On Tuesday morning, the website for the Liquor Control Board of Ontario, which sells liquor products to the public, displayed an error page indicating its online service was "temporarily unavailable while we remove U.S. products in response to U.S. tariffs on Canadian goods." //CBC online news

I really hope they plan to remove any products associated with Wayne Gretzky as well.  But in the meantime boycott Gretzky wine and whiskey!

I read that Gretzky's wife made a statement saying him being criticized for supporting Trump breaks his heart.  Sorry but you are known by the company you keep.

 

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22 minutes ago, Cementhead said:

I've never used this crude and stupid remark before in my life and I am really too old to be doing so but Gretzky can go suck a bag of dicks.

What gets me is guys like him are always shocked there is a backlash to supporting Trump.  Like how do you not know how hated he is by millions of people?

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2 minutes ago, bluegirl147 said:

What gets me is guys like him are always shocked there is a backlash to supporting Trump.  Like how do you not know how hated he is by millions of people?

+  Despite serving as Team Canada's honorary captain during the recent 4  Nations hockey tournament, he openly supported the American team by entering the rink through the U.S.'s bench while also giving them a thumbs up.  A few of us already knew knew he was a traitor but who knew he was also so stupid?  You don't mess around with Canadian hockey fans. 

 

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2 minutes ago, Cementhead said:

A few of us already knew knew he was a traitor but who knew he was also so stupid? 

I have heard talk about creating a wall of shame with the names of prominent traitors to Canada in the midst of this ridiculous assault on our nation by Herr Trump.  If they go ahead with that I think Gretzsky's name will be first.  Bloody little Quisling.

52 minutes ago, bluegirl147 said:

I read that Gretzky's wife made a statement saying him being criticized for supporting Trump breaks his heart.  Sorry but you are known by the company you keep.

Has it broken enough to realize that things have gone too far now?  Will he take a stand for Canada?  If not, boo fricking hoo.

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Bobby Orr plays stupid. He chalks up the controversy - like a good maga minion - to Gretzky appearing at the game in a suit instead of a jersey. 

"For the life of me, I cannot understand why the “haters” have decided to go after Wayne because he “didn’t wear a Canadian jersey” during his introduction at the final match. I, for one, thought that he looked very dignified while representing Canada with class and professionalism."

 https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/bobby-orr-the-great-one-is-a-great-canadian-who-deserves-our-respect-not-criticism

No mention of the real reason Gretzky's reputation has fallen faster than green grass through a Canadian goose: 

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13 minutes ago, Cementhead said:

+  Despite serving as Team Canada's honorary captain during the recent 4  Nations hockey tournament, he openly supported the American team by entering the rink through the U.S.'s bench while also giving them a thumbs up.  A few of us already knew knew he was a traitor but who knew he was also so stupid?  You don't mess around with Canadian hockey fans. 

 

Criminy!  That really is the final straw.  

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House Democratic Caucus leadership held a press conference this morning ahead of DJT's address to a joint session of Congress tonight. Congressmen Pete Aguilar (D-CA), Ted Lieu (D-CA), Greg Casar (D-TX) and a fourth Congressman whose name I'm blanking on spoke and took questions. 

It's good to hear more Democratic voices. I've been waiting to hear from Ted Lieu. He's a good voice for veterans.

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25 minutes ago, Milk-Eyed Mender said:

Bobby Orr plays stupid. He chalks up the controversy - like a good maga minion - to Gretzky appearing at the game in a suit instead of a jersey. 

Sigh.  He's another former Canadian hero that's now, to use a hockey analogy, in the penalty box.  If he really thinks the reason Gretzsky is hated here now is because he wore a suit to a hockey game well, yeah, sure, Bobby, sure.

Did anyone else here ever read The Hockey Sweater by Roch Carrier?  It's about a little French Canadian boy whose mother gets him a Toronto Maple Leafs hockey sweater instead of a Canadiens one. 

As a former fan who got a #4 Boston hockey sweater as a Christmas gift one year, there is a line in it that I've changed up since I found out that Orr is a Trumper:

“I asked God to send me, right away, a hundred million moths that would eat up my Toronto Maple Leafs Sweater Boston Bruins Sweater.”

 

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2 hours ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

I'll be honest and say that I don't think the people who came up with this protest truly thought the whole thing through. I get wanting to hurt retailers for how they have caved to Trump, but a one-day no-buy is not it. For a protest like this to work, it needs to be a week minimum. You also have to look at a calendar to see which week would be feasible for the vast majority of people and would hurt the retailers the most. The absolute worst time for people to not buy anything is from the last day of a month to the 3rd of the next month. This is when people who only get paid monthly get paid, and when people who receive government assistance get paid. Those assistance checks barely cover the necessities. The goal is to hurt retailers not hurt poor people. A week long protest of Walmart, Amazon, Target, etc. from the 16th-22nd of a month would have a greater impact than a one-day on the final day of the month.

The one day total boycott was just the first planned step. Next is targeted week long boycotts through a July 4th boycott. Amazon is first up to be boycotted starting this Friday. 

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