S11.E26: Election Subversion 2024

[Lantern7]

Well, I’m mad. Who feels like punching a total stranger right now?

Basically, we are three weeks away from total right-wing fuckery because one asshole never learned how to lose with grace. A Harris blowout would be a welcome miracle, but we never get stuff that handed to us. Apparently, we do not deserve nice things. Georgia seems like a total write-off thanks to the Republican legislature installed there, and there are enough people spread out in this country to make things a total hell. I live in a blue state, and I might just have to check to see if I’m still registered because shit feels that dire.

How appropriate was it to lead into the main topic with a look at Waffle House? I’m thinking that’s the place to go if you want to punch a total stranger. The stuff with John getting flummoxed by the bizarre ordering methods was icing on the cake.

Anyone reading this owned a Sega Genesis back in the day? I see the wolfman sticker, I immediately think of Altered Beast.

[Annber03]

1 minute ago, Lantern7 said:

Well, I’m mad. Who feels like punching a total stranger right now?

Basically, we are three weeks away from total right-wing fuckery because one asshole never learned how to lose with grace. A Harris blowout would be a welcome miracle, but we never get stuff that handed to us. Apparently, we do not deserve nice things. Georgia seems like a total write-off thanks to the Republican legislature installed there, and there are enough people spread out in this country to make things a total hell. I live in a blue state, and I might just have to check to see if I’m still registered because shit feels that dire.

God, this. All of this. I am so beyond tired. I just want to go back to when electiosn were called on election night and I didn't have to spend days/weeks stressing over the results because some idiots decided to fuck with everything and push conspiracy theory bullshit. If Harris does win, her administration needs to go full scorched earth on these people. I'm dead serious. We need to put a stop to this insanity once and for all. Everyone involved in this stuff needs to be removed from their posts, barred from ever being allowed to participate in overseeing elections of any sort ever again, and if there's an opportunity for them to face serious criminal charges for any attempts to block people's right to vote as well, they should be charged. We have put up with this nonsense way too long, there needs to finally be serious consequences for this behavior once and for all, the sort that make anyone think twice before even attempting to pull these shitty stunts ever again. This is far beyond ridiculous, this is frightening. 

That story about the woman whose voter registration was affected by the change of a street name was crazy. And deeply ironic, considering the name of the street in question. I mean, I do FMLA/disability paperwork at work and do you know how tough it can be sometimes to get the right name/birthdate in a computer system? Especially when you consider how many people go by one name or another for various reasons, or their names change because of marriage or divorce or other family developments, or things of that sort? And I'm just trying to get their medical information filled out for them to take time off work! I can only imagine how difficult it can be when it comes to keeping track of voter registration rolls. 

And for your average person to think they know how to do this job better than people who are actually trained in it...shut up and go find something worthwhile to do with your day/lives. 

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How appropriate was it to lead into the main topic with a look at Waffle House? I’m thinking that’s the place to go if you want to punch a total stranger. The stuff with John getting flummoxed by the bizarre ordering methods was icing on the cake.

 

That rant had me in tears, I was laughing so damn hard XD. I did not know that about Waffle House's ordering system, so it was fascinating to learn about that and yet at the same time, that comment from that 911 opeerator pretty much summed up my feelings as well :p. 

I have never been to a Waffle House, but I have heard about their system when it comes to the severity of hurricanes. I agree with the sentiment that it's odd that that is a thing, for a whole host of reasons, but if it does help people pay attention to how dangerous a storm is or could be, then...I mean, whatever helps, right? 

[Anela]

I haven't watched this yet. I don't know if I will. I've been really depressed, and not feeling the joy that a lot of people were, so I've been trying to, just in case we finally get a woman as President. Who is certainly more capable than the other guy. I've had issues with her campaign recently, but I know that in a few weeks, if she wins, I will be feeling the same relief that I felt mid-July, when people all over the country, rallied around her, and for her. I've been lurking on reddit, reading posts from people who are talking about their work on the ground for her, and how they are so confident that she's going to win, but I also lurk on twitter, and know what's been referenced here, because I've read about it. I've also countered a few people posting conspiracy theories on social media, but they double and triple down, and I'm tired. 

On the other thing: I've never eaten at a Waffle House, and I'm still not eating inside restaurants, but I always associate them with comfort, because of Dead Like Me. A place that's always open. 

Edited October 14 by Anela

[peeayebee]

11 hours ago, Lantern7 said:

Well, I’m mad. Who feels like punching a total stranger right now?

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It's so depressing. I honestly believe that if everyone who is against Trump would vote for Harris, she would win in a landslide. Unfortunately not every eligible voter actually votes. I hope hope hope that all these newly registered voters GET OUT AND VOTE.

I'm just so disgusted at how gullible people are. Trump is a known liar. But his superpower is being able to throw out lie after lie with such confidence that ignorant people lap it up. Even the most ridiculous lie is accepted because he says it with absolutely conviction. People accept it. They don't do research. Or if they do, they just stick with their information-source bubble.

 

5 minutes ago, Palimelon said:

Also, maybe we also need to stop using Trump as a metric to begin with, that is such a low bar to clear (granted, we are in the era where war criminals like Dick Cheney have had their reputations rehabilitated, so who knows what the Dems will be saying about Trump in 20 years).

I'm 100% certain that no Dem will say anything positive about Trump ever. 

About the Waffle House: I had no idea about that ordering system. What is the point? Why not just write things down? It's quirky. I'll always remember that they do that, so it's a fun fact, but again, Why?

Loved John's line about the pickle slices, cheese, and mayo packet being dinner at the Fyre Festival.

 

[Palimelon]

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I'm 100% certain that no Dem will say anything positive about Trump ever. 

20 years ago we all thought that about Cheney too. And yet here we are.

[peeayebee]

3 minutes ago, Palimelon said:

20 years ago we all thought that about Cheney too. And yet here we are.

Very different. For one thing, Trump will never change. He will never admit to being wrong about anything. He will always be arrogant, narcissistic, selfish, and amoral. I suppose some people see Cheney differently now because he's against Trump. Is there anything else he's done to "redeem" himself?

Trump is Trump and will always be Trump. 

[Palimelon]

And someone even worse will come along. And he won't be seen as bad as Trump.

And it isn't like Cheney has apologized or been held accountable for any of his blundering and incompetent decisions.

[DoctorAtomic]

12 hours ago, Lantern7 said:

A Harris blowout would be a welcome miracle, but we never get stuff that handed to us.

If she wins close in most of the swing states, it would be an electoral blowout though. They're still going make a stink, but it always helps when you can just point to the scoreboard. 

That lady who was all high and mighty about 'I didn't think I had to define reasonable'; no, you didn't, did you? which, by the way, do you actually live in the United States?, is just putting herself at risk. Super magas aren't going to care who you voted for if there's any inevitable delays. Especially of those poor three people can't get the same count, which they won't. That's impossible. 

12 hours ago, Annber03 said:

We need to put a stop to this insanity once and for all. Everyone involved in this stuff needs to be removed from their posts, barred from ever being allowed to participate in overseeing elections of any sort ever again, and if there's an opportunity for them to face serious criminal charges for any attempts to block people's right to vote as well, they should be charged.

That's never going to happen unless there's a real landslide. I don't think Harris has the spine to weather the storm of 'lawfare' screeching to instruct DOJ to prosecute civil rights' cases of this nature. Also, states control elections, so a lot of it may be out of her control. The federal government can't do anything about how a state counts ballots, for example. I think the best thing she could do is just point to the scoreboard and say, 'we're working on the transition' and just stay above it all. 

I actually don't think it's going to be as bad as 2020. I don't think you'll see another Jan 6th. I was worried potential Biden/liberal voters would stay home, but I think Harris is motivating them. And, in terms of the strategy, the Trump campaign is just doubling down on 2020. I don't see how they've been getting any middle of the road swing voters. I take the point of the middle east being a mess, and I don't think there's any easy fix, but I also would make the point that let's not let perfect be the enemy of good either. It's a realpolitik election. 

[peeayebee]

31 minutes ago, Palimelon said:

And someone even worse will come along. And he won't be seen as bad as Trump.

Thanks for the nightmare vision. 

[Palimelon]

I mean, it started with Reagan. And in many ways has gotten worse each decade.

Edited October 14 by Palimelon

[Barbarblacksheep]

I'm a former election worker. I think I got PTSD watching this episode. Only half-kidding.

After Obama won in 2008, the whole ugly "Tea Party" movement crawled out from under their rocks and begat the "Election Integrity Project". A giant misnomer of a name BTW. I worked in the signature verification portion of vote counting and these a-holes were practically in my lap from 2008 onward, presidential elections and otherwise. What John was reporting about Hispanic names being the most challenged is absolutely, totally 100% true. It was disgusting. It was obstructive.  And this was in a Blue state/county!

The point about MAGAs being in positions of authority at vote-counting centers is beyond frightening. Hopefully there will be enough safeguards in place to prevent them from actually changing election results, but all of the screaming about "Democrats cheating" is their underhanded smoke screen for doing so themselves IMO.

The decision in Georgia to hand-count the ballots is nothing short of insane. I have no idea how that will play out in real time and how much it will delay reporting the results. This election is giving me an ulcer even more than the 2020 one did.

 

[ebk57]

2 hours ago, peeayebee said:

I suppose some people see Cheney differently now because he's against Trump. Is there anything else he's done to "redeem" himself?

No.  In fact, there are no Democrats I know that think for one second that Cheney has "redeemed" himself in any way at all.  That's just nonsense.

[mariah23]

My mom was a poll worker a couple of years ago (off-election year).  By the end of the day, she was ready to move to Denmark.  
 

I feel for this year’s poll workers.

[Makai]

14 hours ago, Palimelon said:

I mean, we all want Harris to win, because even a pineapple would make a better president than Trump. But as to why she isn't doing better? Possibly because people are understandably disillusioned with the Democrats as well.

I feel like there are two possibilities. The first is exactly what you said and Trump’s voters will get out and vote while potential Harris voters will sit on the sidelines. The second possibility is that the polls are not tapping into a key demographics that is likely to vote for Harris. If that group actually votes, I tend to think Harris will have stronger numbers than the polling indicates. 

This week’s episode (and mainstream news in general) is extremely depressing but I am generally optimistic based on trends that I am seeing in social media. The first is people (mostly white women) who voted for Trump in 2016 becoming strongly pro-Harris. That has included a push by volunteers to put out the message that you don’t have to tell anyone who you voted for and efforts to reach women who feel pressured to vote with their family in more conservative regions. 

The second is the large number of Black women who are becoming much more vocal since Harris became the nominee. She has tapped into something and her campaign is doing a very good job at appealing to TikTok and meme culture but who knows if that will translate into actual votes. 

Although, I also know that my social media is heavily curated so it’s impossible to know how accurate any one view is. Either way, I tend to think the impression that it is too close to call doesn’t hurt to combat complacency. I live in California and can absolutely see the negative impact from the result being a foregone conclusion. 

Edited October 15 by Makai

[purist]

This episode has made me feel so stressed and sick that my stomach is tied up in knots - and I don't even live in America! I'm Australian, where we have compulsory voting and federal elections are overseen by a federal body and election campaigns are rarely more than six weeks long and election day is always on a Saturday and we never hear about 'voter fraud' and we get a 'democracy sausage' (BBQ sausage in bread) at our local polling booth and the queues to vote are never too long and we get to talk to our neighbours and pet their dogs while we wait and we can buy a homemade cake there to support our local school.

I am frightened about the possibility of another Drumpf presidency. Godspeed to you all 😬

[khyber]

I run a polling site for my town.  Its crazy that its up to volunteers like myself and my workers.  For me its a lot.  Election day is 16 hrs for me.  Also, multiple days of training, picking up supplies, setting up the polling location, etc.   Attitudes really changed after trump.  Never had suspicious voters before.  I have to do more explaining about vote safety, etc. 

[purist]

Well this is good news, at least: Local board members in Georgia can't refuse to certify election results, judge rules.

[iMonrey]

As if I were not stressed out and depressed enough as it is. Of course, I knew about most of this already, but that didn't make hearing about it again any easier. I'm pretty tuned into politics, particularly through certain podcasts. But I've been avoiding them of late because every time they start talking about the polls and the race being a toss up I get so frustrated and angry. I just hate where we are right now. It feels like 2016 all over again and I'm going to have to start watching Bob Ross videos again to calm me down.

[peeayebee]

Wow, @purist, I wish we could have elections here like you do there. 

[Anela]

2 hours ago, purist said:

This episode has made me feel so stressed and sick that my stomach is tied up in knots - and I don't even live in America! I'm Australian, where we have compulsory voting and federal elections are overseen by a federal body and election campaigns are rarely more than six weeks long and election day is always on a Saturday and we never hear about 'voter fraud' and we get a 'democracy sausage' (BBQ sausage in bread) at our local polling booth and the queues to vote are never too long and we get to talk to our neighbours and pet their dogs while we wait and we can buy a homemade cake there to support our local school.

I am frightened about the possibility of another Drumpf presidency. Godspeed to you all 😬

Only six weeks long?! That would be amazing. 

[Shrek]

1 hour ago, Anela said:

Only six weeks long?! That would be amazing. 

A lot of countries manage to do it in 6 weeks or less with none of the fuss about mail in ballots or ridiculously long lines to vote that the USA has, it helps that the PM or whoever the leader is can call a snap election rather than the USA system of everyone knowing when it will be every time.

Even India manages to have an election without lines to vote in sweltering heat & people not allowed to give out water because it is seen by some lunatics as bribery. And they have over 1 billion people more than the USA. And in most democratic countries the loser actually accepts that they lost, without having to go through numerous legal challenges to get there. 

Poll workers in most countries also get the respect they deserve unlike the USA.

Let's face it the country is pretty seriously fucked up when it comes to the whole election thing, and both sides are to blame, it didn't just suddenly get like it is. Trump & his sycophants have just taken it to the extreme that it now is, but it was always going to happen eventually. People forget that the USA is a relatively young country. 

 

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[Anela]

11 minutes ago, Shrek said:

A lot of countries manage to do it in 6 weeks or less with none of the fuss about mail in ballots or ridiculously long lines to vote that the USA has, it helps that the PM or whoever the leader is can call a snap election rather than the USA system of everyone knowing when it will be every time.

Even India manages to have an election without lines to vote in sweltering heat & people not allowed to give out water because it is seen by some lunatics as bribery. And they have over 1 billion people more than the USA. And in most democratic countries the loser actually accepts that they lost, without having to go through numerous legal challenges to get there. 

Poll workers in most countries also get the respect they deserve unlike the USA.

Let's face it the country is pretty seriously fucked up when it comes to the whole election thing, and both sides are to blame, it didn't just suddenly get like it is. Trump & his sycophants have just taken it to the extreme that it now is, but it was always going to happen eventually. People forget that the USA is a relatively young country. 

 

I know the UK seems to call them a lot, and we have prime ministers going up against a head of lettuce.  But I’m used to being over here.  I’ve only voted over here.  It seems like, as soon as we get the elections done in between the major elections, we have our next round of candidates throwing their hats in, so that they can prepare for primaries that go on well into the election year itself. 

Edited October 15 by Anela

[Makai]

I recently saw that Republicans are doing a lot of polling recently while the Democrats were doing almost none. Unfortunately most of the networks and newspapers do a horrible job of putting polling number in context. There was poll where in the details they revealed they threw out the results of all non-white voters. Just something to keep in mind with reports about how the polls currently look. 

Another thing to keep in mind is that 7 states have abortion rights on the ballot, including Arizona and Nevada, which has the potential to turnout more Harris-leaning voters who might otherwise not vote. 

16 minutes ago, Shrek said:

Let's face it the country is pretty seriously fucked up when it comes to the whole election thing, and both sides are to blame, it didn't just suddenly get like it is.

The disparity in the voting process in different regions is what shocks me the most. I have literally never waited in line to vote. I’ve never had to worry about my state purging the voter rolls. I’ve already filled out my ballot this election. Being in a solidly blue state means we get minimal national campaign ads. Both presidential campaigns basically ignore us and I love it. 

I can really understand why people in less voter friendly regions are completely turned off to the process. The entire system needs an overall but I can’t see that happening anytime soon. 

[andromeda331]

I'm not surprised John did an episode on this. It depressed and worried me even more then I already am. I'm scared that Trump will win and all the horrible things he'll do. I hope he loses but scared what he and his supporters to do. It's depressing this is where we're at for an election.      

[marina to]

9 hours ago, Shrek said:

People forget that the USA is a relatively young country. 

Canada is even younger and we don't have these issues. Part of it is that all elections are run by Elections Canada, an arms-length agency of the federal government. We do actually use paper ballots and do manual counts at the end of the night but we have a lot of polling stations so each poll only has 400-600 names. The ballots are numbered and the amount of ballots is cross-referenced with the names crossed off the voting list at the end of the night. The returning officer and the poll clerk count the ballots together, the numbers are reported to the chief returning officer in the area, the ballots are then sealed in an envelope. Unused ballots are sealed in another, and the voting list in a third. All of it is then placed in the ballot box and it is sealed in case it needs to be reviewed later.

Counting is usually done within an hour unless the number of votes and ballots don't reconcile with the voting list. It's a bit of a nightmare when that happens but it's not often, and usually has to do with a name not being crossed off. If you're not on the list, you need to bring two pieces of identification off a list to register. You fill in a declaration, and then you get a ballot.

I haven't worked the last few elections, in which I know we now use a scanner in Ontario to run the ballots through. Pretty sure the end of the night is just verifying the numbers the scanner spits out, but maybe someone who has worked a more recent election can go into that process. 

[marina to]

8 hours ago, Makai said:

I recently saw that Republicans are doing a lot of polling recently while the Democrats were doing almost none. Unfortunately most of the networks and newspapers do a horrible job of putting polling number in context. There was poll where in the details they revealed they threw out the results of all non-white voters. Just something to keep in mind with reports about how the polls currently look. 

Certainly agree that the polls are probably being skewed, which I suspect is why you're not seeing any Democratic one. I can guarantee they are doing them but it's not in their best interests for it to be known they are favourable, Like you mentioned, abortion is on the ballot in many states as well as other initiatives and they would really love to turn the house and keep the senate, as well as flip some stuff down ballot too. The best way to do this is to use urgency to get people out to the polls, so this horserace narrative serves that goal.

[Makai]

3 hours ago, marina to said:

The best way to do this is to use urgency to get people out to the polls, so this horserace narrative serves that goal.

Absolutely. You can really get the sense that lessons were learned from 2016 and as demoralizing as the election being so close can feel it suits the Harris campaign to combat complacency,

[purist]

More good news about Georgia: Georgia judge blocks rule requiring hand-count of election ballots.

[catsitter]

22 hours ago, Shrek said:

A lot of countries manage to do it in 6 weeks or less with none of the fuss about mail in ballots or ridiculously long lines to vote that the USA has, it helps that the PM or whoever the leader is can call a snap election rather than the USA system of everyone knowing when it will be every time.

Even India manages to have an election without lines to vote in sweltering heat & people not allowed to give out water because it is seen by some lunatics as bribery. And they have over 1 billion people more than the USA. And in most democratic countries the loser actually accepts that they lost, without having to go through numerous legal challenges to get there. 

Poll workers in most countries also get the respect they deserve unlike the USA.

Let's face it the country is pretty seriously fucked up when it comes to the whole election thing, and both sides are to blame, it didn't just suddenly get like it is. Trump & his sycophants have just taken it to the extreme that it now is, but it was always going to happen eventually. People forget that the USA is a relatively young country. 

 

They do have long queues in scorching heat in India, but they do at least provide water.

[DoctorAtomic]

Just from my own observation, every Harris ad I see is 'We're running behind, we have to work harder'.

I think it's a good strategy to not release polls and just keep the urgency up. 

[Makai]

Two days into early voting and Georgia already has 8.6% voter turnout. Day one was a 124% increase over 2020. I hadn’t really considered how the start of voting could really help the Harris campaign build momentum. 

[MicheleinPhilly]

I was away for a couple of weeks so only watched this last night. I think I'm going to have to pause my viewing of John until this is all sorted because my nervous and gastrointestinal systems can't take another week+ of this. 

As others have mentioned, I do think the abortion initiatives/referendums on several state ballots are being discounted in terms of influencing turnout. 

I also think polls are basically shit and don't actually represent anything meaningful in terms of gauging voter intent. I mean, do you answer your phone for an unknown number? I certainly don't unless I'm expecting a food delivery. 

Now that's not to say I'm not scared shitless and investigating my options should my worst nightmare come true, but I just try to keep reminding myself that the media WANTS this to be a photo finish. Their entire bottom lines are built on covering the horse race.

Will there be some attempted legal buffoonery? Undoubtedly, unless it is a landslide. 🤞 

 

[Shrek]

40 minutes ago, MicheleinPhilly said:

 

Will there be some attempted legal buffoonery? Undoubtedly, unless it is a landslide. 🤞 

 

Whichever way the election goes the aftermath is not going to be pretty, landslide or not.

[peeayebee]

2 hours ago, MicheleinPhilly said:

I also think polls are basically shit and don't actually represent anything meaningful in terms of gauging voter intent. I mean, do you answer your phone for an unknown number? I certainly don't unless I'm expecting a food delivery. 

From what I've read, a lot of the polls we're being fed were conducted by right-wingers. I can't remember the specifics, but they're very slanted. One of the things they accomplish is preparing some people to be shocked if Harris wins and therefore more open to conspiracy theories that the election was stolen.

I'm receiving a s*itload amount of political texts, most (all?) of them asking for money, but a few wanting me to do a survey. I just don't. Am I part of the problem? 

 

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Now that's not to say I'm not scared shitless and investigating my options should my worst nightmare come true, but I just try to keep reminding myself that the media WANTS this to be a photo finish. Their entire bottom lines are built on covering the horse race.

It's absolutely disgusting. I cancelled my WaPo subscription the other day. 

 

 

[Palimelon]

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One of the things they accomplish is preparing some people to be shocked if Harris wins and therefore more open to conspiracy theories that the election was stolen.

The way we were all shocked when Clinton was leading in the polls and Trump won in 2016? I guess by that logic there was a steal in 2016...

[Shrek]

2 hours ago, Palimelon said:

The way we were all shocked when Clinton was leading in the polls and Trump won in 2016? I guess by that logic there was a steal in 2016...

It's only rigged/stolen if Trump loses, we all know that.🙄

[Anela]

Trump himself, said in an interview, something about pollsters taking his money, but he wasn't sure if they were actually polling anyone. This was right around the same time that Kamala was shown to be ahead, for the first time, in conservative polls. 

So, now I get to ask MAGA people I know, if the polls are really in his favour, based on quotes from him. 

This was what I saw: 

Some people are saying it was internal polling, others are saying "that wasn't what he said at all, watch the whole thing."

[peeayebee]

4 hours ago, Palimelon said:

The way we were all shocked when Clinton was leading in the polls and Trump won in 2016? I guess by that logic there was a steal in 2016...

I'm not sure I get what you're saying, but Comey announcing that he was reinvestigating "Her Emails," so that probably had something to do with it.

[Palimelon]

In 2016, iirc, we all went into the election thinking Clinton was ahead in the polls. But the day ended up with Trump winning. And yet, nobody accused Trump of stealing the election. Even people on here have pointed out how MAGA may use the polls of Trump being ahead to accuse Harris of stealing the election if she wins.

Basically, in MAGA eyes, when Trump wins it's always fair and square, but anyone who beats him is cheating.

[Palimelon]

Republicans preparing to reject US election result if Trump loses, warn strategists.

Polling experts point to ‘fake polls’ exaggerating his support, with baseless lawsuits alleging fraud already filed.

[Shrek]

2 hours ago, Palimelon said:

Republicans preparing to reject US election result if Trump loses, warn strategists.

Polling experts point to ‘fake polls’ exaggerating his support, with baseless lawsuits alleging fraud already filed.

Been saying this would happen since Jan6 but nobody in my immediate circle would believe me. That's one of the reasons he says he doesn't think he'll run again, because he expects to win & after that there won't be any elections, Kings don't get elected.

[Annber03]

3 hours ago, Palimelon said:

Republicans preparing to reject US election result if Trump loses, warn strategists.

Polling experts point to ‘fake polls’ exaggerating his support, with baseless lawsuits alleging fraud already filed.

This shit really needs to stop. I'm so tired of this. 

[andromeda331]

On 10/28/2024 at 5:36 PM, Shrek said:

It's only rigged/stolen if Trump loses, we all know that.🙄

I don't know. Given how much bitching he's done about 2020 election I'm more suspicious of the 2016 election. 

8 hours ago, Palimelon said:

Republicans preparing to reject US election result if Trump loses, warn strategists.

Polling experts point to ‘fake polls’ exaggerating his support, with baseless lawsuits alleging fraud already filed.

Too bad we can't eject them from the country.

[Makai]

On 11/1/2024 at 12:09 PM, Palimelon said:

Republicans preparing to reject US election result if Trump loses, warn strategists.

Polling experts point to ‘fake polls’ exaggerating his support, with baseless lawsuits alleging fraud already filed.

There have already been a couple of fake videos of officials tearing up Trump ballots. It was immediately debunked but that wont stop certain people from believing it is true. 

I’ve also seen several people expressing concerns that pollsters are herding their data to make it consistent with a 50/50 race because they don’t want to be an outlier. 

Edited November 3 by Makai

[peeayebee]

I read something positive about the election, and then negative, and then I get depressed, and then positive! and then, what will it matter when the conspiracy theories kick up.

I'm surprised I don't have an ulcer.

[Annber03]

Seriously, I only just turned 40 last month, and yet I am genuinely surprised my hair hasn't gone completely gray/white over this past decade. 

[Anela]

On 11/1/2024 at 3:09 PM, Palimelon said:

Republicans preparing to reject US election result if Trump loses, warn strategists.

Polling experts point to ‘fake polls’ exaggerating his support, with baseless lawsuits alleging fraud already filed.

Elie Mystal wrote an article about how the house could just give him the election.  I’m trying not to think about it, for a few days. 
 

https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/little-secret-trump-johnson-election/

[DoctorAtomic]

I'm having Jim Beam and the Coke (with the cane sugar that comes in the OG glass bottle). 

Hang in there everyone. 

 

[mariah23]

Calling my doctor to prescribe some Xanax.  I’m watching movies and going to bed early to avoid election results.

Wake up Wednesday morning to joy, horror or more stress.

[SoMuchTV]

21 minutes ago, mariah23 said:

Calling my doctor to prescribe some Xanax.  I’m watching movies and going to bed early to avoid election results.

Wake up Wednesday morning to joy, horror or more stress.

Wednesday morning. Oh, honey